You Go, Gretchen!

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Looming showdown as Michigan governor orders Line 5 pipeline to Ontario shut down;

In a move applauded by environmentalists and Indigenous groups on both sides of the border, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a Democrat, in November ordered the firm to shut down the nearly 70-year-old lines by May 12.

Canadian officials, including Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, have appealed to their American counterparts, including President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm for help. […]

Seamus O’Regan, Canada’s natural resources minister, has cast a shutdown as a threat to Canada’s energy security – one he is “watching like a hawk.” He told a parliamentary committee in March that the pipeline provides 53 percent of Ontario’s crude and 66 percent of Quebec’s and 55 percent of Michigan’s propane needs.

hahahahaha….

99 Replies to “You Go, Gretchen!”

      1. They stated lines…
        The other line is straight propane which where I live, we go through a great deal.
        Asked my neighbor if he had an electric hot plate as I expect massive shortages and a huge spike in prices…
        Got that, are you crazy look, as he and his wife too had happily went for their vaccination shot.
        He figures the government will not let it get that bad.
        I suspect that government buildings and hospitals will be a higher priority than us.

    2. Yes. Quote Ralph Klein “Let Those Eastern Bastards Freeze In The Dark”
      And thank you Gretchen. Let the pricks buy new shoes and hoof it, the shoe leather express. Let them live their Fever Dreams of Unicorn Farts, and Gaiia. Ha Ha Ha FOAD Eastern Canada.

      1. Shame us O? Watching like a hawk? From where? Out of his drug rehab window. Hahahaha!

  2. All I want to know is: Why couldn’t this have happened in November?

  4. I’ll believe it when I see the sign out front of my neighbourhood Petro-Canada reading OUT OF GAS, SORRY.

    Enbridge has no intention of turning the tap off. Neither does Gretchen. This is posturing to keep the tree-huggers happy while Gretchen and the Indians wait for Enbridge to ask their price to make this go away.

    1. diddley, Petro-can?, you mean sunoco! there is NO petro can, they are sunoco canada inc

    2. I’d disagree re: Gretchen. I think she’s stupid or devious enough that, if given the opportunity, she’d happily throw the big “OFF” switch herself, pose & preen for the cameras, and then profess utter shock and surprise when the resulting oil & propane shortages & price spikes actually happen. Then of course she’d blame everyone but herself with lots of manufactured-for-the-camera outrage.

      People vote idiots like Gretchen & Biden & Trudeau into power, people need to experience the very real consequences. Do it, Gretchen. Go ahead and do it.

      1. It is true. Without suffering, without actually having to experience the consequences, there is no opportunity to learn.

        “A lot of repetition from earlier reporting from about a month ago. Fear porn, mostly. Wait until 13 May. That’s when the fireworks start, if they do.”
        Wait and see. Lot’s of press releases have been issued. Almost as many as Moe has issued, promising to “start fighting” at some ill defined point in the future.

        Honestly, it is looking more and more likely, like a Potemkin village. On May 13, I suspect it will be “we have all come to an agreement, government has saved you, you clearly need more government” type of thing.

        1. Agree with Kevin as both our feds and Michigan have socialist regimes and a federal election coming ,there will be a great last minute save by the liberals and now vote for us.

        2. I am currently reading Nicholas Taleb’s “Skin In The Game”. He says the isolation of what he refers to variously as the “intelligistas” or “IYIs” (Intellectual Yet Idiot) from any consequences of their actions – a lack of ‘skin in the game’ – is what makes all of the IYI decisions dangerous, and so many actually bad.

          He’s got an engaging style, and doesn’t believe in any versions of the Emperor’s New Clothes, including Bitcoin. Great read if you happen to be stuck at home for some reason.

      2. Notice how the Republican Mich. Gov. worked to strengthen the pipeline by encasing part of it inside a concrete tunnel. The Republican Gov. worked to BOTH keep the pipeline and protect the environment.

        OTOH … The Democrap Gov.? Cancel cultist

    3. No, it’s for real. All of these national Dems know Biden is a one-term president and that no one likes Harris. Whitmer et al. are positioning themselves with the base for a presidential run in 2024. It’s why the Cuomo stuff came out: it wasn’t about removing him from office, it was about removing him as a potential threat to Harris.

  5. I read this earlier today. A lot of repetition from earlier reporting from about a month ago. Fear porn, mostly. Wait until 13 May. That’s when the fireworks start, if they do. In a way, I want it to happen because a lot of smug folks taking potshots at western Canada over the years, specifically on oil, nat gas and pipelines, on Alberta and to a lessor extent Saskatchewan are going to get a rude awakening. Plus some US states, too. Sarnia will be a ghost town and Groper will have to beg for fuel to fly to BC for surfing gigs. Shoe should be on the other foot, this time. Let’s have an election, or renegotiate Confederation.
    Quebec will be hard pressed to demand Equalization, when the taps are turned off. Kenny, if he has the gonads, should shut the whole shebang down now, ’cause Globble Warmenting. Make the BC and Alberta NDP eat crow, because they keep beating that AGW drum. They will be walking up the hill on Lonsdale Avenue and others for all those big homes up on the mountain, North Vancouver. Seattle and Washington State will have only what’s shipped to them via Alaska. They get their fuel from Strathcona refinery in Edmonton. BC could become “dry”. Pity.

    1. I could finish that quote for you, but as one of the bastards who is more conservative than any westerner, I take exception.

      1. Look one post further. Someone did.

        I only referred to that famous slogan from nearly 50 years ago because of how eastern Canada, as a whole, has despised us westerners for decades. Back then, like now, it felt entitled to our oil and gas, behaving as if we owed it to that region. (No, thanks, PET.)

        Maybe it’s time it was given a long overdue wakeup.

        I meant nothing personal.

        1. The problem is BA, thousands of my fellow easterners worked hard in Alberta to get oil out of the ground and when shit flies, no matter where it is coming from, many take it very personal when most of those who think like me voted against every single policy made by damn near every federal government, provincial as well. Like those who are socialists, never seem to grasp the damage they do those those of us who love freedom more than government.

          1. The resentment Albertans have towards easterners goes back to the early 1970s. Back then, eastern Canada told Alberta to work hard to produce oil and gas and then hand it over for nothing.

            We were told to do that because eastern Canada was entitled to it. Alberta’s reward was to be amply crapped on at every opportunity and then continue toiling for that region. It was expected that we joyously received such payment for your goods and services.

            PET told Alberta “Up yours!”, and our collective reaction was the wish that the easterners freeze in the dark. Even after there was an agreement between Ottawa and Alberta, that attitude didn’t change. A few months after that agreement was signed, PET and Marc Lalonde, who truly despised the west, declared war on Alberta through the NEP.

            Mulruin may have abolished it, but the damage to Alberta’s economy, which was the real objective of the NEP, had been done. We are still paying for it.

      2. To some extent we are all responsible for the actions of our neighbours.

        I felt guilty when we elected an NDP government here in Alberta because I did not do enough to persuade people otherwise.

        What Have you done to persuade your fellow easterners out of their socialist insanity?

  7. Everyone needs to reach out to Governor Whitmer to let her know us Canadians support her decision to put an end to Line 5. Us Westerners know how much the East hate their oil and gas pipelines, so we must all use our collective voice to speak out for them and keep them safe from the danger of fossil fuels.

    https://somgovweb.state.mi.us/GovRelations/ContactGovernor.aspx

    Let’s all do our part and make sure those Eastern bastards freeze next winter.

    1. Yeah well, I totally agree. No travel for you Eastern Bastids! Get’um Gretch. Make them HURT.

  8. Hmmm… Looks like Warren Buffet’s oil trains are going to get even more business from this Democrat’s decision to ‘Protect the Environment’. Sadly, transporting oil by rail cars is about 100,000 times more dangerous than transporting it through pipelines. You might think this is an example of “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions”, but no. It’s an example of Democrats doing what Democrats always do, abusing their power to benefit their friends, i.e., wealthy donors to their party.

  9. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha… hahahahaha…. hahaha

    Just beautiful.

    Now watch food prices double in Toronto.

    1. One can only hope! Those pricks out east have had been deserving some karmic justice for far too long and we all do our part by contacting the Michigan governor to make sure Line 5 is shut down. Phone number for the good Governor Whitmer is 517-373-3400 . Make sure you all call to demand an end to the pipeline as we don’t want to have our friends out East subjected to the evil of fossil fuels. This is a huge opportunity for them to go green, and Gretchen is the woman to help them do so! Enjoy your $4.00 a litre gas you pricks!

  10. I have to say I am of mixed emotions. I am against government involvement in industry beyond a bare minimum. I work in the oil and gas field in NE BC.

    But then I read the list of those smug anal orifices that are about to get “gassed” and I do not feel bad. Nope, I do not feel bad in the least. In fact, I have a big grin on my face as I write this.

    To you lefty naught heads I say, you asked for this to happen; you protested to make this happen; you blocked pipeline construction to make this happen. You blocked railroads to make this happen. Now it will happen.

    It will really suck when you run out of fuel and the petroleum based products you depend on are not there. They won’t be there because every physical product in modern society involves transportation by trucks. No fuel, no transportation. No transportation, no products.

    Let’s get the popcorn and watch the food riots.

    As my uncle said many times, “The revolution only happens when the children go hungry.”

    1. If you were hauling oilfield equipment to Fort St. John for repair 20 or 30 years ago, chances are you crossed paths with my father.

  11. Unfortunately, there will be few fireworks. Enbridge has back-up plans waiting to go. It will involve tankers to Maine, then the lightly used Portland-ME-to-Montreal pipeline, then LOTS of oil trains through southern Ontario to the refineries in Sarnia.

    They’ll have a couple of weeks of high gas prices and maybe a propane shortage here-and-there, but that’s it. Nothing bad can be allowed to happen to Toronto, Montreal, and Ottawa. The Liberals will snap into blindingly fast action to protect their voters.

    Any big disruptions will happen in the US Midwest because Biden and his pals don’t quite understand what’s about to happen.

    1. And where are the empty tankers waiting?
      Many of our railway lines were ripped up and hauled away.
      This will be far more than a blip as quickly, the fuels run dry.
      Your talking massive amounts of fuel changes that took years to install and switch over to…
      And they expect normalcy in a few months.
      I don’t think so.

      1. The rate for tankers just recently has doubled. I guess you can get as many tankers as you need at triple the rate.

      2. A ‘hint’ from a friend of a well-placed Enbridge guy (I know, pretty tenuous / buyer beware) says there is a tanker off the Atlantic coast loaded with Venezuelan crude (heavy-grade crude that is very similar to Alberta oil-sands crude) that is a few hours away from the Portland, Maine pipeline terminal. There are also two empty tankers just off Venezuela ready to be loaded for the four-day trip to Portland. Those three supertankers provide about 6-million barrels of oil (or about two weeks of supply for Sarnia’s refineries.) These precautions will give Enbridge enough time to quickly ramp up. It will be expensive as Enbridge will have to pay above-market-rate for a few weeks. There will be some interruptions, a few days of bad press for the Liberals, but it will be short-lived. Nothing can be allowed to threaten Toronto and Montreal economic interests. This is the one thing that federal Liberal governments are very good at: protecting the Desmarais / Weston / Thompson families.

  12. On one side the environmental movement and democrats that have hitched their wagons to it.
    On the other side the economic livelihoods of millions
    Showing up for one side will get you an invite to all the nice parties, but when the food runs out and no one can heat their home and nobody has a job, then you might want to head out of town.
    I’ve heard Gretchen is good at that.

  13. Gretchen Whitmer (who some might consider kinda, sorta hot, you know in a Carla Holmolka sorta way) has a price and anything that effects the comfort of the people of Quebec will be paid by the shiny pony ie tax payers.
    Think aluminum mining, dairy industry.
    When the greatest threat to Canadians is global warming, how do you argue with her.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha. priceless

  14. I can appreciate the irony as much as my friends out west do, but please… don’t laugh too loudly. A disruption of this magnitude will affect all of us.

    I don’t believe in “renewables” any more than the next guy, and I am not about to give in to the climate scare hoax either. Unlike many of my fellow citizens, including members of my own family, I do not believe that we are ready to abandon fossils as quickly as our watermelons would like us to.

    Please don’t alienate your allies who happen to be living in the target zone.

    Believe me… if I had the option, I’d much rather get out of this eastern hell hole, because like you, I know what’s coming down the proverbial pipeline… pardon the pun… and I’m not exactly looking forward to any of it.

    1. “Please don’t alienate your allies who happen to be living in the target zone.”

      Your allies are the people who voted against this kind of nonsense, the people who opposed shutting down Keystone XL, and your enemies are the ones who went along with it without hardly a peep. Not the ones pointing out the folly of this.

      BTW, Biden never ran on shutting down Keystone XL and Whitmer never ran on shutting down this pipeline. We are now in “post democratic” America, and I use that term to include both of our countries. if you want allies, you are going to have accept that some of them are kind of brash, like the orange guy to the south, but you also have to know that they have your back, so probably you just have to hold your nose, like I did with Trump, and accept that at times it’s more important that somebody fight for you than that they are always smooth, diplomatic, and shiny as a show pony on all occasions.

      I guess I will be laying in firewood. The ash borer has left me with dozens of trees that need to come down anyway, so for a while, firewood will be cheap.

      1. Yes Biden did run on shutting down Keystone XL, said it would be shut down the first day. Promise made, promise kept.

    2. I also live in the target zone. Good and hard bys, let er rip, I can walk if needs be! The people around here need a bit of sticker shock, so two dollar a liter gas will be a good start.

      1. I’m with Greg – I live in the GTA and I’m willing to take one for the team.

        Can’t wait for all my Liberal voting green zealot moron neighbours to get all pouty and sad and blame Harper and Ford for their $4.50/L gas and no more BBQ’s and backyard “firepits” because the Costco propane station has an “Out of Stock” sign on it. Let them get what they voted for good and effin’ hard.

    3. “A disruption of this magnitude will affect all of us”

      See that’s where the humour in all of this is coming from in a sort of how their are no atheists in foxholes kinda way.
      Being on the left is easy because their politics is free of obligation and has it in spades when it comes to blaming someone else being responsible (aka send the bill to the tax payer).
      As you pointed out it will effect everyone, including those screaming loudest about the imminent ending life as we know it global crisis of climate change. Before this point the screamer’s have been able to retain a modicum of life’s comforts while simultaneously condemning those that made it possible because they drank their water out of cardboard water box bottle kind of things.
      Now they get to experience the outcome of their decisions unvarnished and their leaders have to explain why after going green ( like they voted for) there is suffering.
      Likewise, there will be no way to spin this, so the media is about to have a conversion on the road to Damascus.
      This is what “going green” actually means.

      They asked for it, they voted for it, now they get it.

      1. I completely agree with you. Unfortunately, the pain will be short-lived. When Liberal-backed economic interests are threatened problems get solved remarkably fast.

  15. Ha ha, Canada. Now you get to deal with the bitch we’ve had to put up with for the last 3 years. She’s a real piece of work and you’re going to LOVE it! (You’d think with all the f*ed up roads she has to fix she would’nt have time for it)

    1. She is living up to her Cruella De Ville nickname, that’s for sure.

  17. Justin is putting on his brang new Climate Change Denier socks.
    He will save them.

    1. He’s, as Quick Dick McDick put it in his last video, the Sultan of Sparkle Socks.

  18. If the pipeline is court ordered to stop then prices go up.
    Enbridge’s Plan B & C going into effect will still make prices go up.
    Sarnia is going to take it in the hoop.
    And Ohio & Pennsylvania rely on the pipeline to some extent as well.
    If rails are being used are the We Were Here First Nations going to start up their blockades again?
    I welcome the drama and the divide that this ditch pig has brought about.
    This will help to shed light on who your enemies and allies are.

  19. “Dictators ride to and fro on tigers from which they dare not dismount. And the tigers are getting hungry.” – Winston Churchill (While England Slept, 1938)

  20. Environmental groups, more than a dozen state attorneys general and several Indigenous tribes filed friend-of-the court briefs in support of the state’s argument that the matter should be decided by a Michigan state court.

    People in Hell want ice water too. They are not going to have it decided by their captive state judges. It will go to Federal Court and will be decided there. The shutdown will not happen on May 12. It will be decided by the US Supreme Court, and Eastern Canadians should thank their lucky stars that Trump was able to have three selections placed there. Of course Biden may threaten the court with court packing, but most likely he will be relieved when this problem goes away. The drama teacher should have taken Keystone the same route.

    1. I greatly respect President Trump, but his Supreme Court appointees have not exactly covered themselves in Conservative glory, yet. And I will not hold my breath in expectation of them getting any better.

  21. Don’t worry. Blackie will have his new military fly in propane for the indians.

    3. I think it’s in very poor taste to lampoon the name of Grinchin Whitler.

  24. Not to worry, there is a federal election in the wind, and the Turd will loose if this happens and hangs around too long. George O’Butthole will step in and fix it:-)))))

    Great timing I say, and it may wake some assholes up, you listening Ooz and R~4?

  25. By the way, what should the “pollution” tax on burning fire wood be? How should said tax be collected? On firewood sales, or somehow on fireplaces and wood stoves, like British televisions
    through licensing?
    The burning of wood is more harmful to the environment (and people) than the burning of coal.

      1. Thanks, Buddy. It’s too bad environmentalists can’t see the same thing can apply to coal generation electrical plants.

    2. That’s a Carbon Tax boost. All the Carbon Dioxide floating about from wood fires. Bring back coal. Keep Nova Scotia digging. National Debt ? What debt ?

    3. Don’t get smug, it has already been discussed. I saw an article from about 5 years ago that outdoor wood furnaces are evil because they emit bigger particles. And also, in the matter of fairness, to put wireless read meters on farmstead and rural resident water pumps. For everyone’s benefit of course.

  26. I think the feds should retaliate by banning tanker traffic in the St. Lawrence. That’ll show ’em!

    1. Show who?

      There is a reason why tanker traffic is banned on the west coast (to hurt Alberta), but not the east coast/St Lawrence (would hurt Ontario/Quebec).

  27. Isn’t anyone worried that the price to keep Line 5 open for central Canada energy consumers will be paid by western Canadian energy producers? This is high stakes dealmaking, imo, and the Trudeau government would gladly sacrifice Alberta and Saskatchewan to protect votes in Quebec and Ontario.

    1. John Horgan got awfully excited when Rache rattled his cage over TMX, before Groper “rode to the rescue” and bought a pipeline that currently is sitting idle for lack of a few chicken hawks, this past week. The court case initiated by BC got the bum’s rush. That’s why any “rescuing” should be met with a complete shutdown of oil and gas in western Canada. Right from the wellhead. We could run windmills on the screaming and cursing. Point that out to them. Make these people eat their words on Globble Warmenting ™, on both sides of the border, especially in commie, “green” Washington State. Then we separate. It’s summer, nobody is going to freeze, but I expect plenty to shrink their waistlines ’cause nothing moves without western hydrocarbons. Even as far as Quebec. Wuflu should have woke some folks to stocking up. I certainly did. Unfortunately we are stuck with “Dough Bouy” with delusions of Federal grandeur. By the way, nobody has factored in disruptions in Northern Ontario rail traffic, because of the Sacred Tree Frogs. We’re talking in excess of 500,000 bbls of oil a day here, never mind propane for your BBQ. We got enough rolling stock, north of 49 ? What about all the other stuff moved by rail?
      It came from Wuhan Chinah, not Calgary, via international airlines……a Federal responsibility, just like pipelines that cross borders.
      No Equalization, when you block “dirty western oil” across your Province, while flushing your toilets down the St Lawrence River.

      1. All I’m saying is Canadian and US environmentalists and politicians on the left have a never ending shopping list of demands. Threats of shutting down Line 5 provides huge leverage to have some of those demands met. Pipelines, energy projects, decarbonization, banning ice vehicles, agriculture, etc…who knows what else.

        Meanwhile, the Trudeau Liberals have an election on their mind and they have the same environmetal shopping list. They need votes in Ontario and Quebec but don’t need them in Alberta and Saskatchewan. They’ll sell out western prairie interests in a New York minute and Quebec and Ontario will thank the Liberal for doing it.

        So Line 5 gives negotiating leverage to environmentalists and political cover for Trudeau Liberals These two groups are allies not enemies.

      2. One 100-car unit-train can transport about 60,000 barrels of crude.
        So about nine (9) of these trains, every single day, would be enough to cover a Line 5 shortfall.
        Some trains would come from western Canada, some would come from the Montreal end of the Portland, Maine pipeline (ie. foreign oil tankers).
        This would cause some disruptions, for a few weeks, but that’s it.

  28. I hope morontario gets $4 a liter gas out of this. EAT IT scumbag bastards.

  29. “Seamus O’Regan, Canada’s natural resources minister, has cast a shutdown as a threat to Canada’s energy security”

    So much for virtue signalling about bullshit emissions targets..Actually it’s Ottawa and eastern Canadians that are a threat to Canada’s energy security. I hope Gretchen follows through. If the Canucklheads don’t want Alberta’s ‘dirty’ oil, fuck ’em. Let the shutdowns begin.

  31. It is a good idea to take a few sensible steps to protect ourselves from a potential power grab by our feckless leaders. If this goes hot we should have extra food, water, and other essentials tucked away as well as protect our beloved firearms from the RCMP, etc. Remember, the police kept (illegally) copies of the gun registry and they will (have already) kick in your doors to seize them if “he admires their basic dictatorship” decides to take advantage of a “national crisis.”

    Oh, keep your fuel tanks full, too.

  33. Didn’t build a national pipeline. Didn’t build drug facilities for making vaccines ( just those for addicts). How Liberal !
    Post National Nationhood.

  34. Line 5 is scheduled to shut down for service in the neighbourhood at Dixon Rd and Martingrove near Pearson Airport and the line will be dug up.
    I think we’re being played.

    1. Not even close to the Michigan choke point and that fuel is refined in Sarnia, that’s where Line 5 ends up. They’ll truck it from Sarnia while the work is done, or they may even just railcar it from the refinery. Not sure Port Credit handles tanker traffic anymore.
      Michigan is still in play.

  35. The CBC refused to cover the trucker convoy protest that drove from Alberta to Ottawa. Does anyone expect the CBC to apply the same consideration for the Line 5 pipeline news story?

  36. Is it possible that O’Stoole and the canada conservative party have been counting on this?

    That is, your average Liberal Toronto voter goes batship crazy when energy prices have tripled (even though they have been voting for this for years).
    … and all of a sudden, the red tories dont look so bad anymore? “Look Dear, they even have a rebate program for solar shingles.”

    ??

  37. If it’s such a danger, shut it down now. Do not delay. Think of the children!

  38. Well hell,if the genuine governor of an important USA State feels there is a safety issue,who are we mere Westerners to doubt her?
    Shut it down,for a full safety audit.
    Safety First,let there be no time limit ,why if it takes an inquiry as protracted as the Burger Report,then let it be so.
    For no profits nor creature comforts is as important as “saving the environment”..Especially from the awful pollution escaping propane gas can produce….
    Alberta must act.
    Close all the valves,shut down these toxic flows…

    If you can’t beat them,join them.

    The Children’s Crusade has left the station.
    Next stop mass murder and slavery.
    For the children.
    For history may not repeat reliably,but it sure rhymes nicely.

    Exactly the same “logic” for Independence ,we are not doing it for us,hell no,we are leaving Can Ahh Duh to spare our progressive comrades of the Parasitic Overload,the agony of having to share the same space as us unenlightened savages..
    And of course by separating our affairs,the “enlightened Ones” can meet their desired future.

    Forward.

  39. All Canadian residents should be forced to register as either for fossil fuels or believe in fighting global warming and thus against fossil fuels. Then whenever there is a shortage, those against would get their wish – no more fossil fuel for them. It would be incredibly hypocritical of them to use a product they’re so opposed to….oh wait, they’re already that hypocritical.

  40. Poll in the Calgary Sun this morning: “Is it time for Alberta to separate from the rest of Canada?” yes = 84% no=16%

    1. I have been prognosticating for a few years now that Justin Trudeau and his cadre of equally stupid environmental zealots will break up Canada. The current political situation is simply not …if I may reclaim a word from them….”sustainable.”

  41. I’m betting it won’t happen, but hoping it will. Whitmer is playing politics, as are our beloved liberals. Boy it would be a real treat to see this happen, and see the results caused by the idiots back there screaming and whining cuz their costs have doubled.
    Ahhh, I can dream can’t I?

  43. Gee, all those comments from the western provinces sound heartfelt – sarc. As an easterner I feel sorry for you all.

    I’ve voted PC since of legal age to do so and am now 70. Seems that choice did not benefit me a whole lot either over that time. A uni-party is now in it’s place and it does not matter who you vote for as the outcome and policies will be the same.

    I’ve got a wood stove as well and am not the least worried about putting some green house gases into the atmosphere. I would preffer the convenience of my gas heating stove and hot water heater but will make due as best I can should it come to that.

    You haters out west have a good day now.

    bverwey

  44. I’ve been on the chainsaw almost everyday for a month. The woodpile is substantial. I’m ready.

    I think the Michigan governor is planning on keeping the line open in her State. She closes it in where it crosses the lake back into Canada.

    1. I don’t think her Green believers will let her get away with that. They are all about ‘saving’ the ‘sacred waters’ of the Straits of Mackinaw. She could be that stupid, though.

      1. She is that stupid.
        I agree with abtrapper. The easement itself is what is at issue. Therefore it is actually politically expedient to do just that.
        I think this will happen. I think Canadian fuel prices will skyrocket. I think the anarchists will block up the rail system etc.
        By the time this one’s over, I don’t anticipate any laughter at all.

  45. “. And also, in the matter of fairness, to put wireless read meters on farmstead and rural resident water pumps. For everyone’s benefit of course.”
    Ya we had that here in BC as well.
    The attitude was go ahead and meter it and at the same time look after it so when the pump quits at 12AM on a Sunday night I want to call the authority in charge and say “my pump quit.FIX IT/.
    It quietly went away.

  46. After reading the 85 or 90 comments on this post there is zero doubt in my mind that Canadas days are numbered. As an Ontario resident of over 70 years I was surprised to see the the vitriolic animosity that was displayed in the above mentioned posts. Like any one else I realize that the west has been screwed over by the liberals or more correctly the Trudeaus for at least 60 years and longer and I don t blame them for being pissed. The problem then and has always been Quebecs unceasing demands for special treatment before they would consider supporting any legislation that benefited other provinces. So given the fact that the situation will likely never change, I guess Alberta and maybe Saskatchewan will probably leave Canada at some point. When that happens the remaining parts of Canada IE: Ontario, Manitoba and BC will have to decide whether they want to continue supporting Quebec, and the Maritimes or develop an economic union with the USA. The various territories could then decide which group they would prefer to align themselves with. Canada is a political basket case and I doubt that it can be fixed.

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