Today’s China: Seeing the Lies Behind ‘Emerging Power’ Rhetoric
By Hu Shaojiang
Trend Magazine Apr 28, 2007
The claim that “China is an emerging super power” has regularly been read in both Chinese and Western media.
Chinese regime officials boast about it, seeking to create a myth of legitimacy for their communist rule and to quiet dissatisfaction of the general public.
Many Chinese seek comfort in this myth to ease their daily misery, and some talk about it in the hope of redeeming self-esteem.
Even those Westerners who believe in the rising super power of China also have their different agendas. Some play up the Chinese market for their own speculative opportunities and others exaggerate about China to distract from their own domestic contradictions.
(Liberals, Chretien, PowerCorp, Maurice Strong, Paul Martin et al have fed us this line for years as an excuse to pour big bucks into THEIR pet projects in China…)
Read MUCH more at: http://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-4-28/54675.html
lorraine – epoch times and D.J. McGuire, who runs it, has its own agenda. It’s stuck in the 1950’s, the anti-communist era. All it can focus on, is the Evil Communists, ignoring that this phase is gone and China is rapidly changing.
I’m certainly against communism; a collectivist infrastructure won’t work in large populations with an industrial economy. But, epoch times is fixated on it. Communism is OVER in China; it is moving out from the bottom up.
The Chinese are not ‘stuck in misery’; they are rapidly moving into a capitalist economy and most have one agenda – consumerism and making as much money as possible. They aren’t interested in ideology – communist or otherwise.
Epoch times is also pro Falun Gong, which I consider a cult.
The difficult situation in China now, is the transition from the peasant subsistence agriculturalism, the mainstay of China from the beginning, to urbanization and industrialism. Trying to move peasant families off the peasant farm, to train and industrialize them – a superhuman transition.
Did some further reading on that twit Michael Byers who thinks that Stephen Harper and General Hillier should be charged with war crimes. Turns out that the guy would like to see these kinds of “crimes” thrown around rather liberally. Hence this quote from an article of his on climate change: “Governments that today refuse to prevent climate change may well come to be regarded in the future as having perpetrated international crimes.”
When morons like this start calling for war crimes trials for real war criminals like Fidel Castro or Robert Mugabe, I might then be able to take their rantings seriously. Until then, he’s just another wingnut. It speaks to the desperation of the MSM that they felt compelled to dredge up his crap to create a news story.
Paul Martin’s (actually Maurice Strong and PowerCorp’s give to Paul Martin but I digress) company Canada Steamship Lines has gone through a merger:
March 28th, 2007
Subject: NOTICE OF MERGER – EFECTIVE AS OF APRIL 1, 2007.
This is to advise you that, effective April 1, 2007, Canada Steamship Lines Inc. will merge with its parent company, The CSL Group Inc. The name of the new merged entity will be “The CSL Group Inc.”. The business formerly conducted by Canada Steamship Lines Inc. will be conducted through a division of The CSL Group Inc., named “ Canada Steamship Lines”.
As a consequence, effective April 1, 2007, all the rights, obligations and liabilities of the merged entities will automatically become those of The CSL Group Inc. Please be assured that this merger will in no way affect the way we conduct our business and service our customers; this is solely an effort to consolidate our operations. All officers, directors and managers of Canada Steamship Lines Inc. will retain their current titles/positions, but within the Canada Steamship Lines division.
Please address all future correspondence, starting April 1, 2007, to Canada Steamship Lines, a division of The CSL Group Inc.
If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact the undersigned.
Sylvie Lafleur
Director,
Customer Service & Contract Administration http://www.csl.ca/
Here is an excellent blog post by someone who used to believe in man made global warming who has now bet $6,000 of his own money that the earth’s temperature will not rise in the next 20 years. A good overview of how science and politics have become merged on this issue over the last 15 years. http://backseatdriving.blogspot.com/2007/04/climate-skeptics-guest-post-why-david.html
Most are aware that I am an alternate fuel auto enthusiast.. ad nausi. Apologies.
My blogsite is a quick study for someone who may want to consider an hybrid or EV. I have attempted to keep the sometimes complex copy pared to the bone.
The latest is San Francisco based Tesla Motors, makers of the Electric Vehicle, [EV], Tesla Roadster, 0 to 60mph in 6 seconds, is opening retail stores, the first being in Los Angeles.
There is a bright new photo posted as well.
Notice there is no blogroll or ads. Just a low traffic info blog. = TG
A few too many words and their meanings have been stolen from our vocabulary. They’ve take the words ‘gay’ and ‘rainbow’and now their working on discrediting ‘green’ with the despicable antics of Lizzie May.
In the HOC today, Defence Minister O’Connor stood on a question of privilege and clearly explained that he did not at anytime mislead the house regarding all the slag and accusations from the BANCRUPT OPPOSITION.
It’s shameful for anyone to have to put up with character assassination by less than honorable members playing gotcha politics. They have no credibility, long ago lost their own moral compass.
The Speaker could use a tune up, can’t seem to keep order and demand civility.
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Liberal Aboriginal Affairs Minister David Ramsay refuses face-to-face meeting
— instead Caledonia residents get “Liberal sympathy” — which, in case anybody’s
wondering… is about as useful as a bucket of warm spit.
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Russia’s talking about a new space race, this time for energy: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/01/wmoon01.xml
Russian researchers have recently come up with a new fusion technology that is a) performing very well in tests b) orders of magnitudes cheaper and smaller than Tokamaks and c) could handle Helium 3 no problem (the optimal fuel for a fusion reactor).
ET “The Chinese are not ‘stuck in misery’; they are rapidly moving into a capitalist economy and most have one agenda – consumerism and making as much money as possible. They aren’t interested in ideology – communist or otherwise.”
The Chinese have a pretty consistent 3,000 year history of pragmaticaly amassing as much wealth as they could get their hands on. Getting dethroned as the Quiet Superpower seems to have made them prone to waves of self destructive religious mania (of which communism was only the third). To me China is looking increasingly like it did pre-1820s.
Fritz- Making a bet like that isn’t impressive. Collecting on it is a different story.
Prince Charles and royal carbon a$$print
The 58-year-old heir to the throne is a longtime environmentalist.
He runs an organic farm and has a line of organic foods, Duchy Originals.
He cancelled his annual ski holiday in Switzerland in order to reduce the number of airplane flights he takes, and he has converted to biodiesel cars and provided bicycles to his London staff.
jose – that’s quite the statement – China and ‘religious mania’. Explain.
And China as pre 1820? What’s that supposed to mean?
* “www.ecofraud.ca
Hilarious must read.
The Truth is out there…
Posted by: Ted at May 1, 2007 4:05 PM”
ted,
maybe you should be asking… who is marc gendron? you know, the guy who registered ecofraud.ca
Administrative Contact:
Marc Gendron (sz5-58tzyvus@namesproprivacy.ca)
Namespro.ca Private WHOIS, 130-8191 Westminster Highway, Box 276
Richmond BC V6X1A7 Canada
Phone: 16046828059
Fax: 16046828059
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Time to chill, with a little of that southern Hume-err
Rupert Murdoch is willing to spend few billion dollars to buy Dow Jones in the USA.
Now if only he would spend a few million in Canada to counter Canadian ( as Kate astutely posted elsewhere today ) “politically motivated media whores” .
Fox new in Canada, a novel idea, eh?
The CanWest Global online story about Elizabeth May’s recent comments quotes an anonymous PMO “spokesperson.”
I think it’s bunk.
anchorlink.blogspot.com/2007/05/something-is-amiss-here.html
Just noticed danny williams parts his hair in the middle. Does that mean he is left sometimes and right sometimes, or thinks taking the middle road will get him friends in Canada. Wonder if he has given any thought to what will happen to his rock if our PM gets a majority, and the rock sends lib or ndp to the house. Any info on how mays remarks re nazis went over in NS. If she gets more than her own vote it just shows the ignorance of voters.
Image of map is on display.
Find the N-W Passage. Surprise! No ice.
Really? None from moi’s bridge.
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German chancellor hands over map first naming America
German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Monday officially handed over to the United States the 500-year-old map that was the first to tell the world of a new land it called America.
Library of Congress historians say the world map, completed by German-born cleric and cartographer Martin Waldseemueller in 1507, is the first known document to use the name America — named after Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci — the first to depict the Western Hemisphere and the first to show separate Pacific and Atlantic oceans.
…- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1826741/posts
neo:
Cherniak has that website linked on his blog. Yet he is (not)surprisingly refusing to post my comment with that hallsofmacadamia link you provided.
Elizabeth May: Christian Bashing “Christian”
Stephane Dion’s green Green deputry’s sermon this weekend in London, Ontario continues to stun the nation as more of it surfaces in the public domain.
The bulk of attention has centered on her comparison between the PM and Neville Chamberlain – saying that appeasing the Nazis was not as bad as producing the most effective greenhouse gas plan emitted by a Canadian government so far. Those comments require no comment from me; at the risk of being labeled a climate change denier, however, I would suggest that the holocaust is a sicker, sadder and wholly more evil event than global warming.
We have come to expect this sort of ahuman warped-braindom from this very new Liberal party. What stunned me even more however was a fact and a paraphrase:
Fact: Elizabeth May is in training to be an Anglican Minister.
Paraphrase: In her sermon, Elizabeth May said evangelical Christians, like George W. Bush, await the end of the world with glee and this is why they are doing nothing to fight global warming. …- http://www.chuckercanuck.blogspot.com/
“Or the political system might blame science for misinforming it, which could be a terrible outcome for science because the political system is powerful and not constrained by truth.”
David Evans from Science Speak from the post by Fritz. Though the sentence is about global warming his thought on politics is so true.
More disgusting grandstanding antics by our opposition party leaders at the expense of a Canadian hockey hero.
Shane Doan, one of the most respectable hockey players around by most accounts is under attack by Dion, Layton, and Duceppe, among other (Denis Coderre). They are demanding he step down as captain of Team Canada for anti-French statements he was alleged to have made, denies ever making, and was cleared of making by an NHL review. He is currently suing Denis Coderre. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070501.wsptdoan1/BNStory/Front
I’m demanding Dion, Layton, and Duceppe step down as leaders of their respective parties and resign from parliament until they can prove Mr Doan made his statements.
pundit – so what if China has the ‘longest time line’?
And what do you mean by ‘continuous thread’?
I’m still waiting for jose’s answer to my question. What religious mania and what about pre-1820?
Garth Turner publishes anonymous “Letter to Stephen Harper”, an obvious fraud designed to specifically smear none other than…Small Dead Animals! This guy has gone off the deep end. http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2007/04/30/small-angry-tories/
Any lawyers out there want to send a retraction demand letter to Garth & the Liberal Party on behalf of Kate?
MayDion and DionMay and George Moonbat: The triad of the Green-Red Church.
This is beyond parody/satire. CP “reports” with a deadpan story.
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May gets backing from Brits in comparing climate change to Second World War
By BRUCE CHEADLE
Ottawa (CP)
{…] Dion: “So I’m uncomfortable with the reference to Chamberlain about anything else than what happened in the Second World War.” […]
In an interview Tuesday, May said the tempest over her weekend remarks to a church group were being both misrepresented and overblown.
May explained that the controversial quote attributed to her in news reports was actually her repeating the comments of a British journalist and environmental writer, George Monbiot.
Monbiot had told a conference on Saturday that there is a “new axis of evil” on climate change, naming U.S. President George Bush, Australian Prime Minister John Howard and Harper as the offending trio.
According to May, who says she took notes, Monbiot called the three “more culpable in the eyes of history than (former British prime minister) Neville Chamberlain’s attempt to appease the Nazis.”
May says she repeated Monbiot’s opinion on Sunday when she spoke to a church group in London, Ont., at the invitation of the local Liberal MP who had defeated her there in a fall federal byelection.
The point, May said Tuesday, is that Monbiot was comparing the moral failure of meeting the targets of the Kyoto protocol on greenhouse gas emissions with Chamberlain’s failure to appreciate the dangers of Nazi Germany.
“We run the risk of losing civilization,” said May. …-
The entire sorry story is here: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/05/01/4145643-cp.html
the irony here is if that dingbat moonbat was alive in 38, she would have sided with the peaceniks and allowed Hitler to hold Europe, and we all would be goose-stepping today…..she should stick to hugging trees and sorting cardboard……moonbat idiot!
ncf to – yes, I agree; that letter to Garth Turner is an obvious fraud. And I strongly suspect that many of his commentors are actually Garth Turner.
He’s a mean-spirited vindictive old man, narcissistic and filled with anger because no-one listens to him.
He’s after kate because of her marvellous spoof of him as ‘Me, Me, Me, Me, Me’. And that’s exactly what he is.
That includes his blog – with that ‘anonymous letter’ written by him, and those comments, also written by him.
Ignore him.
ET “I’m still waiting for jose’s answer to my question. What religious mania and what about pre-1820?”
The first was started by a firewood salesman who proclaimed himself to be Jesus Christ’s younger brother (I kid you not) and kicked off the Taiping Rebellion. It’s the second bloodiest war in history, at least 20 million deaths (and possibly a great deal more). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion
That was followed by an anti-christian movement, the Boxer Rebellion. Hundreds of thousands of young men were convinced they’d been possesed by spirits that would render them bulletproof. It didn’t work apparently.
The third wave was maoism, which is an agressive monothestic religion (almost all marxism/communism is). There’s no god involved of course, but that’s a mere technicality, it ticks all the boxes in the religion checklist.
The 1820s was the last decade before the Opium Wars btw. After that point the old order began unravelling.
“William Meek, a Calgary-based reader, nicely sums it up. It has “very little to do with small investors getting clobbered,” he wrote.
Instead, the people really hurt by the Halloween decision to tax trusts were the brokers and senior people in oil and gas companies “disappointed that this wonderful source of megabucks has dried up.”
Media tarred in issue of trust(s)
Jonathan Chevreau, Financial Post
Published: Tuesday, May 01, 2007
The ongoing income trust saga is no longer just one of aggrieved industry players and penniless retirees pitted against a heartless, promise-breaking government.
Increasingly, we in the media are part of the story. Both individual columnists and some of our sources are coming under increasing attack.
Last week, things got testy when Brent Fullard — founder of industry lobby group Canadian Association of Income Trust Investors (CAITI) — took it upon himself to forward a series of private e-mails between the two of us to the media at large and to various government and industry figures.
I never granted permission for this and certainly would not publish verbatim a series of e-mails between myself and a source without the prior permission of that source.
I issued a 10-point rebuttal and asked Bullard to forward it to the same list he’d sent to the original list. This he declined to do, on the grounds “your comments that were circulated by me could not have been taken out of context since the full text of your message was there for anyone to read.”
[…]
I also asked Bullard to respond to the charge that CAITI’s very name is misleading, in that only four of its founders are individuals and a dozen or so are industry participants. He disagreed with this: “We are not in the misleading business.”
Well, you could have fooled me.
It turns out I was not the first or only victim of this kind of guerrilla tactic, which was clearly designed to discredit both myself and my sources….- http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columnists/story.html?id=88fd41b8-e672-4a8f-9ad9-19663efc6dc8
For those looking for more information on the stupidity of banning incandescent bulbs, check out the following link: http://sound.westhost.com/articles/incandescent.htm
This contains more information than most people might want on the impact of mandating compact fluorescent bulbs through the force of the nanny state. I’ve sent a copy to PMSH. Warning: may produce somnolence in those who don’t have a geeky interest in things electronic.
Originally posted by Vitruvius to the Western Standard’s Shotgun blog.
Thanks, jose.
I don’t think that the problem in China was ‘getting dethroned’; I think that the problem was the difficulty in moving from a peasant sustenance agricultural economy in most areas, and an irrigation agricultural economy in other areas – into a modern industrial economy.
They weren’t able to mobilize the people to make that transition – until Maoism, who forced them out of an agricultural to an industrial economy.
Their current transition is into a three class economy, with a growing capitalist middle class. That will require democracy.
What is General Electric going to DO about the old fashioned lightbulb anyways? http://www.grcblog.com/
Just finished watching local news to see Larry Hubich and his labour faithful rallying against TILMA. Do these people get the day off with pay to protest? How could I get a day off to protest against the NDP?
Still Dead!
Today Fidel Castro failed to appear for the MayDay parade in Havana.
Paging Taliban Jack…..
“By aligning themselves with foreigners (especially Pakistanis, Pushtun and otherwise) and drug gangs, the Taliban have lost all moral authority in most of Afghanistan. Even the tribal ties some pro-Taliban Afghan Pushtuns have, are strained by the cooperation with Pakistan and the drug gangsters. When the Taliban arrived in the early 1990s, they were a force of law and order, promising to end fifteen years of war. But now, the Taliban are bringing back violence. The cure has turned into the disease. That’s why most Afghans believe the Taliban have lost, and will never rise above the level of banditry and armed nuisance.”
ET “Their current transition is into a three class economy, with a growing capitalist middle class. That will require democracy.”
I suspect so, but I doubt it’ll resemble western style democracy. Chinese people are actually much more plugged in at the local level with various committes and councils than westerners are. What they lack is any connect beyond that.
The Alarmists’ Latest, Most-Despicable-Ever Propaganda Strategy http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2007/05/alarmists-latest-most-despicable-ever.html
…in which I, The Canadian Sentinel, respond to the latest slurs coming from the extremist Chicken Little alarmists, slurs that would please the likes of Goebbels, Lenin and bin Laden, who know the power of the Big Lie and of thought control of the masses.
They brought it upon themselves. And I pull no punches, take no prisoners… you’ll like it.
ET, Maoism hardly forced a modern economy. Mao had the Chinese trying to build mini-blast furnaces in their back yards.
The NATIONALISTS on Taiwan beat them to a modern industrial society by decades. I just hope their fabricating nukes as we speak because I have no faith that either party in my country is coming to their aid with the PRC invades.
Citoyen Dion plus 33,999 Citoyens de la France are eligible to vote in the French election in Montreal.
Where will Citoyen vote? Will Citoyen’s visit to the poll be a “photo-op”?
Will Citoyen Dion boycott the election as Citoyen Le Pen has advised?
“Sarkozy’s Montreal office is his biggest outside Europe. There are some 34,000 French voters living in Montreal, the greatest number outside France.”…-
Sarkozy supporters in Quebec ask for police protection …- http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2007/05/01/qc-sarkozy0501.html
This Shane Doan thing really pisses me off. Don’t are elected officials have bigger things to worry about than whether a hockey player said something “mean” to a Frenchman??
Small Dead Garth is part of the problem.
I agree, you need an election. To tell him, “YOU’RE FIRED” on international television.
nonsense, bipolar bear; the Chinese aren’t going to invade. Calm down.
I maintain my point, the Communist regime in China moved it out of a peasant agriculturalism to an industrial economy. Chiang Kai-Shek’s corrupt gov’t didn’t do it.
Agreed, jose, the Chinese have always been ‘local’; that’s been their strength, quite frankly, because it has meant that they were ‘grounded’ in local economic and social requirements rather than following an abstract general authority of some far-off overlord.
However, a three-class system is similar all around the world – and the Chinese are quite eager to be part of the international global network, via communications (electronic systems), scientific research collaborations, and the economy. The different between the Chinese eagerness to be part of the global world – and the Islamic, who reject that collaboration and interaction – is obvious.
pundit – I don’t see a society as going through ‘heaves and sways’. I don’t see a society as continuous. If they change their economic mode and political mode, even though they inhabit the same geographic terrain, in my view, they are not the same society. There is absolutely no comparison between the English society of the 8th century and that of the 16th century. You may consider that they are the ‘same people’, but in my view, they are not; the infrastructure is completely different.
For example, the mov’t from a two class subsistence economy to a three class market economy, which took place in Europe from about 1100 to 1450 AD, did not result in the ‘same’ society, but in a profoundly different society.
China, like Russia, remained in a peasant two class agricultural society – until the modern era. The Chinese were still cutting the heads off the chickens in the backyard, when Europe was manufacturing iron and steel, when Newton was working on his laws, when Darwin was analyzing biological change, etc.
I don’t know what you mean by ‘continuous but evolving language and culture’. The English, French, German languages have also evolved, and all of them, by the way, are far easier to learn than the non-phonetic Chinese language. It is only recently that the Chinese have simplified their written form.
I don’t think that they sacrificed liberty for survival; they didn’t need to reject the one for the other. As a counter example, in order for the Europeans to survive, the Europeans had to promote the liberty of the individual.
The Chinese rejection of individualism fits right in with a peasant agricultural mode of life which requires stability, no freedom to leave the local farm, and a reliance on the family and kin to support each other. And, such an ideology meant that they had no capacity to gradually change that economy and move readily into industrialism. That’s why it had to be forced on them by a violent revolution.
As for WWII – the communist revolution was certainly comparable – and the reasons for both were similar – to move the society out of one socioeconomic/political structure, to another. Such a change is rarely, rarely, gradual. Instead, that type of change is violent and traumatic. It’s a deep structural change, not surface.
There is no way that the N. American natives could have stopped the European immigration. The N. Americans were operating in either a hunting or horticultural economy; both of these are stable, non-collaborative and non-adaptive, and they had no capacity to stop an expanding market economy. The European market economy enabled a highly flexible, adaptive and ‘growth’ society.
I disagree with your view of a ‘continuous society’. In my view, if the deep structure of the society, ie, the economic, political and legal mode changes – then, it’s a completely different society.
The longest mode of lifestyle, has been hunting and gathering – which has almost died out, but some bands of H&G were living in that same mode for 40,000 years. Agriculture only developed about 10,000 years ago – and the most basic types have lasted until the last century.
I have no idea what you mean by ‘the present residents’ exhibit many traits acquired over the past thousands of years. Culture is not genetic.
Have the leaders of the opposition lost their minds. Layton telling PMSH to get rid of his entire cabinet. Poor talibanjack. He will never have the opportunity to form a cabinet, and neither will dion. If the set election law is passed, will we have to put up with the crap going on for over 2 years. Will the 16 liberals leaving stay till then. Doesn’t BS have to go run Magna. Calling the PM a liar is much worse than a supposed insult to a frenchman, (which we have all made) If the captain of the hockey team has to be replaced, I vote that the entire team boycott the rest of the series. Talk about hurting canada’s image on the world stage. I want an election, to get rid of all those libs and talibanjacks, who think they are the government. 2 years of waiting for the libs to force an election, and blocking every piece of legislation presented is not something cdns need.
ET — I disagree with your cavalier dismissal of the Epoch Times. You might thing that anti-Communism is a throwback to the fifties, but I expect that those living in Communist China, Cuba and North Korea do not share your views. The Epoch Times does indeed have an anti-communist agenda but I do not think this is a valid reason to dismiss it. Similarly, their affiliation with Falun Gong — which as far as I know is not promoted in the newspaper. In general I have found articles in ET to be informative and somewhat less biased than those in other main stream media. They have an advantage, perhaps in only publishing once a week, so they can be more selective in what they print. The article Lorainne points out is interesting as a personal account and analysis from someone much more familiar with China than I am. If nothing else, it’s more information about China than I have seen in MSM for weeks. We should all be grateful for alternative news sources. After all you are not forced to believe or take an interest in everything they print.
Recommended viewing:
http://www.aconvenientfiction.com
Today’s China: Seeing the Lies Behind ‘Emerging Power’ Rhetoric
By Hu Shaojiang
Trend Magazine Apr 28, 2007
The claim that “China is an emerging super power” has regularly been read in both Chinese and Western media.
Chinese regime officials boast about it, seeking to create a myth of legitimacy for their communist rule and to quiet dissatisfaction of the general public.
Many Chinese seek comfort in this myth to ease their daily misery, and some talk about it in the hope of redeeming self-esteem.
Even those Westerners who believe in the rising super power of China also have their different agendas. Some play up the Chinese market for their own speculative opportunities and others exaggerate about China to distract from their own domestic contradictions.
(Liberals, Chretien, PowerCorp, Maurice Strong, Paul Martin et al have fed us this line for years as an excuse to pour big bucks into THEIR pet projects in China…)
Read MUCH more at:
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/7-4-28/54675.html
lorraine – epoch times and D.J. McGuire, who runs it, has its own agenda. It’s stuck in the 1950’s, the anti-communist era. All it can focus on, is the Evil Communists, ignoring that this phase is gone and China is rapidly changing.
I’m certainly against communism; a collectivist infrastructure won’t work in large populations with an industrial economy. But, epoch times is fixated on it. Communism is OVER in China; it is moving out from the bottom up.
The Chinese are not ‘stuck in misery’; they are rapidly moving into a capitalist economy and most have one agenda – consumerism and making as much money as possible. They aren’t interested in ideology – communist or otherwise.
Epoch times is also pro Falun Gong, which I consider a cult.
The difficult situation in China now, is the transition from the peasant subsistence agriculturalism, the mainstay of China from the beginning, to urbanization and industrialism. Trying to move peasant families off the peasant farm, to train and industrialize them – a superhuman transition.
Did some further reading on that twit Michael Byers who thinks that Stephen Harper and General Hillier should be charged with war crimes. Turns out that the guy would like to see these kinds of “crimes” thrown around rather liberally. Hence this quote from an article of his on climate change: “Governments that today refuse to prevent climate change may well come to be regarded in the future as having perpetrated international crimes.”
When morons like this start calling for war crimes trials for real war criminals like Fidel Castro or Robert Mugabe, I might then be able to take their rantings seriously. Until then, he’s just another wingnut. It speaks to the desperation of the MSM that they felt compelled to dredge up his crap to create a news story.
Heh?
Kinny’s Comments
Kettles Pots and Leftoids! Eh?
Paul Martin’s (actually Maurice Strong and PowerCorp’s give to Paul Martin but I digress) company Canada Steamship Lines has gone through a merger:
March 28th, 2007
Subject: NOTICE OF MERGER – EFECTIVE AS OF APRIL 1, 2007.
This is to advise you that, effective April 1, 2007, Canada Steamship Lines Inc. will merge with its parent company, The CSL Group Inc. The name of the new merged entity will be “The CSL Group Inc.”. The business formerly conducted by Canada Steamship Lines Inc. will be conducted through a division of The CSL Group Inc., named “ Canada Steamship Lines”.
As a consequence, effective April 1, 2007, all the rights, obligations and liabilities of the merged entities will automatically become those of The CSL Group Inc. Please be assured that this merger will in no way affect the way we conduct our business and service our customers; this is solely an effort to consolidate our operations. All officers, directors and managers of Canada Steamship Lines Inc. will retain their current titles/positions, but within the Canada Steamship Lines division.
Please address all future correspondence, starting April 1, 2007, to Canada Steamship Lines, a division of The CSL Group Inc.
If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact the undersigned.
Sylvie Lafleur
Director,
Customer Service & Contract Administration
http://www.csl.ca/
A rainbow green bite the dust
http://ca.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2007-05-01T163841Z_01_WLA8119_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-BP-CEO-COL.XML
may and svend all in one.
Here is an excellent blog post by someone who used to believe in man made global warming who has now bet $6,000 of his own money that the earth’s temperature will not rise in the next 20 years. A good overview of how science and politics have become merged on this issue over the last 15 years.
http://backseatdriving.blogspot.com/2007/04/climate-skeptics-guest-post-why-david.html
Most are aware that I am an alternate fuel auto enthusiast.. ad nausi. Apologies.
My blogsite is a quick study for someone who may want to consider an hybrid or EV. I have attempted to keep the sometimes complex copy pared to the bone.
The latest is San Francisco based Tesla Motors, makers of the Electric Vehicle, [EV], Tesla Roadster, 0 to 60mph in 6 seconds, is opening retail stores, the first being in Los Angeles.
There is a bright new photo posted as well.
Notice there is no blogroll or ads. Just a low traffic info blog. = TG
A few too many words and their meanings have been stolen from our vocabulary. They’ve take the words ‘gay’ and ‘rainbow’and now their working on discrediting ‘green’ with the despicable antics of Lizzie May.
In the HOC today, Defence Minister O’Connor stood on a question of privilege and clearly explained that he did not at anytime mislead the house regarding all the slag and accusations from the BANCRUPT OPPOSITION.
It’s shameful for anyone to have to put up with character assassination by less than honorable members playing gotcha politics. They have no credibility, long ago lost their own moral compass.
The Speaker could use a tune up, can’t seem to keep order and demand civility.
http://www.ecofraud.ca
Hilarious must read.
The Truth is out there…
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Liberal Aboriginal Affairs Minister David Ramsay refuses face-to-face meeting
— instead Caledonia residents get “Liberal sympathy” — which, in case anybody’s
wondering… is about as useful as a bucket of warm spit.
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This bit of global warming skepticism was posted by DJ McGuire over at the Shotgun, but I can’t resist screaming it from every rooftop I can climb up onto:
http://backseatdriving.blogspot.com/2007/04/climate-skeptics-guest-post-why-david.html
Russia’s talking about a new space race, this time for energy:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/01/wmoon01.xml
Russian researchers have recently come up with a new fusion technology that is a) performing very well in tests b) orders of magnitudes cheaper and smaller than Tokamaks and c) could handle Helium 3 no problem (the optimal fuel for a fusion reactor).
ET “The Chinese are not ‘stuck in misery’; they are rapidly moving into a capitalist economy and most have one agenda – consumerism and making as much money as possible. They aren’t interested in ideology – communist or otherwise.”
The Chinese have a pretty consistent 3,000 year history of pragmaticaly amassing as much wealth as they could get their hands on. Getting dethroned as the Quiet Superpower seems to have made them prone to waves of self destructive religious mania (of which communism was only the third). To me China is looking increasingly like it did pre-1820s.
Fritz- Making a bet like that isn’t impressive. Collecting on it is a different story.
Prince Charles and royal carbon a$$print
The 58-year-old heir to the throne is a longtime environmentalist.
He runs an organic farm and has a line of organic foods, Duchy Originals.
He cancelled his annual ski holiday in Switzerland in order to reduce the number of airplane flights he takes, and he has converted to biodiesel cars and provided bicycles to his London staff.
jose – that’s quite the statement – China and ‘religious mania’. Explain.
And China as pre 1820? What’s that supposed to mean?
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“www.ecofraud.ca
Hilarious must read.
The Truth is out there…
Posted by: Ted at May 1, 2007 4:05 PM”
ted,
maybe you should be asking… who is marc gendron?
you know, the guy who registered ecofraud.ca
Administrative Contact:
Marc Gendron (sz5-58tzyvus@namesproprivacy.ca)
Namespro.ca Private WHOIS, 130-8191 Westminster Highway, Box 276
Richmond BC V6X1A7 Canada
Phone: 16046828059
Fax: 16046828059
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Time to chill, with a little of that southern
Hume-err
Rupert Murdoch is willing to spend few billion dollars to buy Dow Jones in the USA.
Now if only he would spend a few million in Canada to counter Canadian ( as Kate astutely posted elsewhere today ) “politically motivated media whores” .
Fox new in Canada, a novel idea, eh?
The CanWest Global online story about Elizabeth May’s recent comments quotes an anonymous PMO “spokesperson.”
I think it’s bunk.
anchorlink.blogspot.com/2007/05/something-is-amiss-here.html
Just noticed danny williams parts his hair in the middle. Does that mean he is left sometimes and right sometimes, or thinks taking the middle road will get him friends in Canada. Wonder if he has given any thought to what will happen to his rock if our PM gets a majority, and the rock sends lib or ndp to the house. Any info on how mays remarks re nazis went over in NS. If she gets more than her own vote it just shows the ignorance of voters.
A bomb shell dropped in the Saskatchewan Legislature. A 1994 police report reveals that the NDP have known since at least that time that caucus fraud wasn’t reported properly to the police.
http://taxpayersfederation.blogspot.com/2007/05/sask-who-knew-what-and-when.html
Image of map is on display.
Find the N-W Passage. Surprise! No ice.
Really? None from moi’s bridge.
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German chancellor hands over map first naming America
German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Monday officially handed over to the United States the 500-year-old map that was the first to tell the world of a new land it called America.
Library of Congress historians say the world map, completed by German-born cleric and cartographer Martin Waldseemueller in 1507, is the first known document to use the name America — named after Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci — the first to depict the Western Hemisphere and the first to show separate Pacific and Atlantic oceans.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1826741/posts
neo:
Cherniak has that website linked on his blog. Yet he is (not)surprisingly refusing to post my comment with that hallsofmacadamia link you provided.
Elizabeth May: Christian Bashing “Christian”
Stephane Dion’s green Green deputry’s sermon this weekend in London, Ontario continues to stun the nation as more of it surfaces in the public domain.
The bulk of attention has centered on her comparison between the PM and Neville Chamberlain – saying that appeasing the Nazis was not as bad as producing the most effective greenhouse gas plan emitted by a Canadian government so far. Those comments require no comment from me; at the risk of being labeled a climate change denier, however, I would suggest that the holocaust is a sicker, sadder and wholly more evil event than global warming.
We have come to expect this sort of ahuman warped-braindom from this very new Liberal party. What stunned me even more however was a fact and a paraphrase:
Fact: Elizabeth May is in training to be an Anglican Minister.
Paraphrase: In her sermon, Elizabeth May said evangelical Christians, like George W. Bush, await the end of the world with glee and this is why they are doing nothing to fight global warming. …-
http://www.chuckercanuck.blogspot.com/
“Or the political system might blame science for misinforming it, which could be a terrible outcome for science because the political system is powerful and not constrained by truth.”
David Evans from Science Speak from the post by Fritz. Though the sentence is about global warming his thought on politics is so true.
More disgusting grandstanding antics by our opposition party leaders at the expense of a Canadian hockey hero.
Shane Doan, one of the most respectable hockey players around by most accounts is under attack by Dion, Layton, and Duceppe, among other (Denis Coderre). They are demanding he step down as captain of Team Canada for anti-French statements he was alleged to have made, denies ever making, and was cleared of making by an NHL review. He is currently suing Denis Coderre.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070501.wsptdoan1/BNStory/Front
I’m demanding Dion, Layton, and Duceppe step down as leaders of their respective parties and resign from parliament until they can prove Mr Doan made his statements.
pundit – so what if China has the ‘longest time line’?
And what do you mean by ‘continuous thread’?
I’m still waiting for jose’s answer to my question. What religious mania and what about pre-1820?
Garth Turner publishes anonymous “Letter to Stephen Harper”, an obvious fraud designed to specifically smear none other than…Small Dead Animals! This guy has gone off the deep end.
http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2007/04/30/small-angry-tories/
Any lawyers out there want to send a retraction demand letter to Garth & the Liberal Party on behalf of Kate?
MayDion and DionMay and George Moonbat: The triad of the Green-Red Church.
This is beyond parody/satire. CP “reports” with a deadpan story.
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May gets backing from Brits in comparing climate change to Second World War
By BRUCE CHEADLE
Ottawa (CP)
{…] Dion: “So I’m uncomfortable with the reference to Chamberlain about anything else than what happened in the Second World War.” […]
In an interview Tuesday, May said the tempest over her weekend remarks to a church group were being both misrepresented and overblown.
May explained that the controversial quote attributed to her in news reports was actually her repeating the comments of a British journalist and environmental writer, George Monbiot.
Monbiot had told a conference on Saturday that there is a “new axis of evil” on climate change, naming U.S. President George Bush, Australian Prime Minister John Howard and Harper as the offending trio.
According to May, who says she took notes, Monbiot called the three “more culpable in the eyes of history than (former British prime minister) Neville Chamberlain’s attempt to appease the Nazis.”
May says she repeated Monbiot’s opinion on Sunday when she spoke to a church group in London, Ont., at the invitation of the local Liberal MP who had defeated her there in a fall federal byelection.
The point, May said Tuesday, is that Monbiot was comparing the moral failure of meeting the targets of the Kyoto protocol on greenhouse gas emissions with Chamberlain’s failure to appreciate the dangers of Nazi Germany.
“We run the risk of losing civilization,” said May. …-
The entire sorry story is here:
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/05/01/4145643-cp.html
the irony here is if that dingbat moonbat was alive in 38, she would have sided with the peaceniks and allowed Hitler to hold Europe, and we all would be goose-stepping today…..she should stick to hugging trees and sorting cardboard……moonbat idiot!
ncf to – yes, I agree; that letter to Garth Turner is an obvious fraud. And I strongly suspect that many of his commentors are actually Garth Turner.
He’s a mean-spirited vindictive old man, narcissistic and filled with anger because no-one listens to him.
He’s after kate because of her marvellous spoof of him as ‘Me, Me, Me, Me, Me’. And that’s exactly what he is.
That includes his blog – with that ‘anonymous letter’ written by him, and those comments, also written by him.
Ignore him.
ET “I’m still waiting for jose’s answer to my question. What religious mania and what about pre-1820?”
The first was started by a firewood salesman who proclaimed himself to be Jesus Christ’s younger brother (I kid you not) and kicked off the Taiping Rebellion. It’s the second bloodiest war in history, at least 20 million deaths (and possibly a great deal more).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion
That was followed by an anti-christian movement, the Boxer Rebellion. Hundreds of thousands of young men were convinced they’d been possesed by spirits that would render them bulletproof. It didn’t work apparently.
The third wave was maoism, which is an agressive monothestic religion (almost all marxism/communism is). There’s no god involved of course, but that’s a mere technicality, it ticks all the boxes in the religion checklist.
The 1820s was the last decade before the Opium Wars btw. After that point the old order began unravelling.
“William Meek, a Calgary-based reader, nicely sums it up. It has “very little to do with small investors getting clobbered,” he wrote.
Instead, the people really hurt by the Halloween decision to tax trusts were the brokers and senior people in oil and gas companies “disappointed that this wonderful source of megabucks has dried up.”
Media tarred in issue of trust(s)
Jonathan Chevreau, Financial Post
Published: Tuesday, May 01, 2007
The ongoing income trust saga is no longer just one of aggrieved industry players and penniless retirees pitted against a heartless, promise-breaking government.
Increasingly, we in the media are part of the story. Both individual columnists and some of our sources are coming under increasing attack.
Last week, things got testy when Brent Fullard — founder of industry lobby group Canadian Association of Income Trust Investors (CAITI) — took it upon himself to forward a series of private e-mails between the two of us to the media at large and to various government and industry figures.
I never granted permission for this and certainly would not publish verbatim a series of e-mails between myself and a source without the prior permission of that source.
I issued a 10-point rebuttal and asked Bullard to forward it to the same list he’d sent to the original list. This he declined to do, on the grounds “your comments that were circulated by me could not have been taken out of context since the full text of your message was there for anyone to read.”
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I also asked Bullard to respond to the charge that CAITI’s very name is misleading, in that only four of its founders are individuals and a dozen or so are industry participants. He disagreed with this: “We are not in the misleading business.”
Well, you could have fooled me.
It turns out I was not the first or only victim of this kind of guerrilla tactic, which was clearly designed to discredit both myself and my sources….-
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columnists/story.html?id=88fd41b8-e672-4a8f-9ad9-19663efc6dc8
For those looking for more information on the stupidity of banning incandescent bulbs, check out the following link:
http://sound.westhost.com/articles/incandescent.htm
This contains more information than most people might want on the impact of mandating compact fluorescent bulbs through the force of the nanny state. I’ve sent a copy to PMSH. Warning: may produce somnolence in those who don’t have a geeky interest in things electronic.
Originally posted by Vitruvius to the Western Standard’s Shotgun blog.
Thanks, jose.
I don’t think that the problem in China was ‘getting dethroned’; I think that the problem was the difficulty in moving from a peasant sustenance agricultural economy in most areas, and an irrigation agricultural economy in other areas – into a modern industrial economy.
They weren’t able to mobilize the people to make that transition – until Maoism, who forced them out of an agricultural to an industrial economy.
Their current transition is into a three class economy, with a growing capitalist middle class. That will require democracy.
What is General Electric going to DO about the old fashioned lightbulb anyways?
http://www.grcblog.com/
Just finished watching local news to see Larry Hubich and his labour faithful rallying against TILMA. Do these people get the day off with pay to protest? How could I get a day off to protest against the NDP?
Still Dead!
Today Fidel Castro failed to appear for the MayDay parade in Havana.
Paging Taliban Jack…..
“By aligning themselves with foreigners (especially Pakistanis, Pushtun and otherwise) and drug gangs, the Taliban have lost all moral authority in most of Afghanistan. Even the tribal ties some pro-Taliban Afghan Pushtuns have, are strained by the cooperation with Pakistan and the drug gangsters. When the Taliban arrived in the early 1990s, they were a force of law and order, promising to end fifteen years of war. But now, the Taliban are bringing back violence. The cure has turned into the disease. That’s why most Afghans believe the Taliban have lost, and will never rise above the level of banditry and armed nuisance.”
ET “Their current transition is into a three class economy, with a growing capitalist middle class. That will require democracy.”
I suspect so, but I doubt it’ll resemble western style democracy. Chinese people are actually much more plugged in at the local level with various committes and councils than westerners are. What they lack is any connect beyond that.
The Alarmists’ Latest, Most-Despicable-Ever Propaganda Strategy
http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2007/05/alarmists-latest-most-despicable-ever.html
…in which I, The Canadian Sentinel, respond to the latest slurs coming from the extremist Chicken Little alarmists, slurs that would please the likes of Goebbels, Lenin and bin Laden, who know the power of the Big Lie and of thought control of the masses.
They brought it upon themselves. And I pull no punches, take no prisoners… you’ll like it.
ET, Maoism hardly forced a modern economy. Mao had the Chinese trying to build mini-blast furnaces in their back yards.
The NATIONALISTS on Taiwan beat them to a modern industrial society by decades. I just hope their fabricating nukes as we speak because I have no faith that either party in my country is coming to their aid with the PRC invades.
Citoyen Dion plus 33,999 Citoyens de la France are eligible to vote in the French election in Montreal.
Where will Citoyen vote? Will Citoyen’s visit to the poll be a “photo-op”?
Will Citoyen Dion boycott the election as Citoyen Le Pen has advised?
“Sarkozy’s Montreal office is his biggest outside Europe. There are some 34,000 French voters living in Montreal, the greatest number outside France.”…-
Sarkozy supporters in Quebec ask for police protection …-
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2007/05/01/qc-sarkozy0501.html
This Shane Doan thing really pisses me off. Don’t are elected officials have bigger things to worry about than whether a hockey player said something “mean” to a Frenchman??
Small Dead Garth is part of the problem.
I agree, you need an election. To tell him, “YOU’RE FIRED” on international television.
nonsense, bipolar bear; the Chinese aren’t going to invade. Calm down.
I maintain my point, the Communist regime in China moved it out of a peasant agriculturalism to an industrial economy. Chiang Kai-Shek’s corrupt gov’t didn’t do it.
Agreed, jose, the Chinese have always been ‘local’; that’s been their strength, quite frankly, because it has meant that they were ‘grounded’ in local economic and social requirements rather than following an abstract general authority of some far-off overlord.
However, a three-class system is similar all around the world – and the Chinese are quite eager to be part of the international global network, via communications (electronic systems), scientific research collaborations, and the economy. The different between the Chinese eagerness to be part of the global world – and the Islamic, who reject that collaboration and interaction – is obvious.
pundit – I don’t see a society as going through ‘heaves and sways’. I don’t see a society as continuous. If they change their economic mode and political mode, even though they inhabit the same geographic terrain, in my view, they are not the same society. There is absolutely no comparison between the English society of the 8th century and that of the 16th century. You may consider that they are the ‘same people’, but in my view, they are not; the infrastructure is completely different.
For example, the mov’t from a two class subsistence economy to a three class market economy, which took place in Europe from about 1100 to 1450 AD, did not result in the ‘same’ society, but in a profoundly different society.
China, like Russia, remained in a peasant two class agricultural society – until the modern era. The Chinese were still cutting the heads off the chickens in the backyard, when Europe was manufacturing iron and steel, when Newton was working on his laws, when Darwin was analyzing biological change, etc.
I don’t know what you mean by ‘continuous but evolving language and culture’. The English, French, German languages have also evolved, and all of them, by the way, are far easier to learn than the non-phonetic Chinese language. It is only recently that the Chinese have simplified their written form.
I don’t think that they sacrificed liberty for survival; they didn’t need to reject the one for the other. As a counter example, in order for the Europeans to survive, the Europeans had to promote the liberty of the individual.
The Chinese rejection of individualism fits right in with a peasant agricultural mode of life which requires stability, no freedom to leave the local farm, and a reliance on the family and kin to support each other. And, such an ideology meant that they had no capacity to gradually change that economy and move readily into industrialism. That’s why it had to be forced on them by a violent revolution.
As for WWII – the communist revolution was certainly comparable – and the reasons for both were similar – to move the society out of one socioeconomic/political structure, to another. Such a change is rarely, rarely, gradual. Instead, that type of change is violent and traumatic. It’s a deep structural change, not surface.
There is no way that the N. American natives could have stopped the European immigration. The N. Americans were operating in either a hunting or horticultural economy; both of these are stable, non-collaborative and non-adaptive, and they had no capacity to stop an expanding market economy. The European market economy enabled a highly flexible, adaptive and ‘growth’ society.
I disagree with your view of a ‘continuous society’. In my view, if the deep structure of the society, ie, the economic, political and legal mode changes – then, it’s a completely different society.
The longest mode of lifestyle, has been hunting and gathering – which has almost died out, but some bands of H&G were living in that same mode for 40,000 years. Agriculture only developed about 10,000 years ago – and the most basic types have lasted until the last century.
I have no idea what you mean by ‘the present residents’ exhibit many traits acquired over the past thousands of years. Culture is not genetic.
Have the leaders of the opposition lost their minds. Layton telling PMSH to get rid of his entire cabinet. Poor talibanjack. He will never have the opportunity to form a cabinet, and neither will dion. If the set election law is passed, will we have to put up with the crap going on for over 2 years. Will the 16 liberals leaving stay till then. Doesn’t BS have to go run Magna. Calling the PM a liar is much worse than a supposed insult to a frenchman, (which we have all made) If the captain of the hockey team has to be replaced, I vote that the entire team boycott the rest of the series. Talk about hurting canada’s image on the world stage. I want an election, to get rid of all those libs and talibanjacks, who think they are the government. 2 years of waiting for the libs to force an election, and blocking every piece of legislation presented is not something cdns need.
ET — I disagree with your cavalier dismissal of the Epoch Times. You might thing that anti-Communism is a throwback to the fifties, but I expect that those living in Communist China, Cuba and North Korea do not share your views. The Epoch Times does indeed have an anti-communist agenda but I do not think this is a valid reason to dismiss it. Similarly, their affiliation with Falun Gong — which as far as I know is not promoted in the newspaper. In general I have found articles in ET to be informative and somewhat less biased than those in other main stream media. They have an advantage, perhaps in only publishing once a week, so they can be more selective in what they print. The article Lorainne points out is interesting as a personal account and analysis from someone much more familiar with China than I am. If nothing else, it’s more information about China than I have seen in MSM for weeks. We should all be grateful for alternative news sources. After all you are not forced to believe or take an interest in everything they print.
Two things you may have missed in this thread.
Better check Ncf_TO comment at 7:33 above.
And this fraud is interesting too.
http://ecofraud.ca/news-nouvelles/news_oilpatch.aspx
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