Two Libyans found to pose a danger to national security are likely to be released on bail next week after a court ruled that they could not be sent back to their own country. Siac, the special anti-terrorist court, said it was “quite satisfied” that one of the men, an Islamic extremist identified as “AS”, would resume terrorist violence when he was able. The other, “DD”, was also unlikely to modify his behaviour, Siac added. A map in a car at his home had marks on footpaths under a flight path to Birmingham Airport.
But the court found a “real risk” that the two men could be tortured or ill-treated in breach of the European Human Rights Convention if they were deported, despite an agreement with Libya signed in 2005. Siac warned that if they were put on trial there was also a risk of their being denied a fair hearing.
The court’s finding, that it would be unlawful for John Reid, the Home Secretary, to send the men back to Libya is a major setback. They are likely to be freed within days after Siac granted them bail in principle, pending an appplication by the Home Secretary for permission to appeal. Mr Reid’s lawyers had opposed bail on the grounds the Libyans would abscond if let out of Long Lartin maximum security prison, where they have been under immigration detention. However, Mr Justice Mitting, the Siac chairman, said keeping them in detention after they had won their appeal would be on the ‘cusp of legality’.
Is there any doubt that Canadian courts – with the enthusiastic backing of the Liberals and NDP – would treat such a case here any differently?
Sure, Canada would be different, we’d have to provide them with housing and car upon their release and a public apology and court order to the RCMP that they could no longer follow them around.
and to use two of CBCpravdas favourite words. compensation for abuse .
abuse, compensation, lactating , pay for profit. damn I could write for them.
There is no other description for releasing these two terrorist killers who have demonstrated their intentnion to mass murder innocent men women and children than insanity. Can there be any doubt that with each ridiculous such court decision in their favour the terrorists shake their heads in amazement at our stupidity and thank Allah for their great luck to finally have for an enemy a civilization so eager to be lead to its own destruction.
Looks to me like the British have been afflicted with a severe case of sheer lunacy.
Who will be accountable when these 2 kill several people in a mall, plane, school or school bus. Bet it wont be the judges who release them.
Why not place them in a caring Bush=Hitler lefty home as foster kids. Just because you have to count your knives before retiring to bed every night doesn’t mean that you can’t help them with their issues.
Let me get this straight. These lunatics are sure to inflict grief and pain and most likely death on some Brits but their right to freedom from torture overrides the torment and torture that their victims and families will have to endure the rest of their lives. Sounds like Taliban Jack logic. Go for it will be the Supremem Court’s ruling, no doubt.
Time to dial 1-800-mossad. I’m sure there are a few unused umbrellas with ricin tips over there.
Ooops, I think I’ve said too much already.
It truly is a sign that the lunatics are really running the asylum. A solution might be, assuming the Brits had a military, that any terrorist captured, like these two, would be quickly tried in a military court and shot immediately if found guilty. Thatcher must be jumping up and down screaming about “Those &*%^$# wets!”
In a similar vein look at the thousands of mostly Mexican refugees pouring into Canada now that the US is tightening their immigration. According to the Sun a lot of these are criminals facing deportation from the States. Tomorrow’s problem here today.
We’ll go down in history, assuming there’s anyone left to write an accurate account, as the civilization that died from a lack of will to live. Liberalism is analgous to HIV. It so compromises the body’s/society’s immune/self defence mechanisms that it succumbs to overwhelming sepsis/subversion.
I heard an account of the Air India pre blast hint today. said they had one of them ready to spill the beans but his lawyer interfered and wouldnt let him name persons without cutting a better deal for jail time for his client.
so there is a lawyer out there with the blood of 300+ on his hands still. do you think he cares.
During the Air India trial, the millionaire defendent had his huge legal tab picked up by the taxpayer. His kids worked for the defense council doing nothing yet they were billed to the government for many tens of thousands of dollars. Only in Canada can you be charged with killing 300 people and have it result in a make work project for your children to get paid by the government.
Unfortunate- this could cause delays in sponsoring their relatives to ‘visit’ the country, (so that they could apply for ‘refugee’ status). Duh?
How long will it be before these two try to get into Canada as refugees???
Doubt? Hell, no. Just look at the Khadrs.
this country has been completely infiltrated by terrorist scum(or as alby and his fellow commie moonbats would say, freedom fighters)
taliban, tamil tigers, hezbo, al qadai, flq, ira, etc, etc, etc…..we provide them with money, housing, and worst of all, the ability to raise money for their heinous activities…..it is just a matter of time b4 they strike here, and then, just maybe, the average sleep-walking Canadian will start to pay attention as to what is happening in this country…
You may make fun but we take our role as terrorist enablers seriously over here in the old country.
“Liberalism is analgous to HIV. It so compromises the body’s/society’s immune/self defence mechanisms that it succumbs to overwhelming sepsis/subversion.”
Dr. D. you have precisely and concisely diagnosed the disease. And, just like AIDS, there appears to be no cure in sight; but prevention is possible if Canadians can learn to abstain from Liberalism
What about the human rights of their potential victims?
..”just like AIDS, there appears to be no cure in sight”
No cure? Nonsense. Don’t engage in sex with someone with a shitty resume. Don’t stick it in a certain orifice without protecting yourself or allow someone to make a risky rear entry.
If that;s not enough wack off when necessary or take frequent cold showers but please stop insulting our intelligence by pretending that there is no cure for a disease caused exclusively by ill-advised, risky conduct.
On the other hand I’ve learned that there are no cures from jumping from ten story buildings or playing in expressway traffic.
“How long will it be before these two try to get into Canada as refugees???
Posted by: OMMAG at May 1, 2007 6:55 PM ”
How long will it be before these two DEFINITLEY get into Canaduh as refugees? About two days.
There…fixed that for ya OMMAG
Here’s the concluding (unbelievable) parargraph of the Telegraph article.
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David Davis, the shadow home secretary, said: “The Government would do well to focus on prevention and prosecution rather than just trying to deport these individuals once they are here.”
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Focus on prevention! I am a wordsmith who is lost for words.
Welcome to the upside down world of the 21st century, where those who risk their lives fighting for the freedom of others are villains; those who oppose such efforts are progressives. And of course there is that guy, you know who, the one who supported the war up to the tipping point and then surrendered, yet claims he still supports the liberation.
And what will happen if these two flee the country and head back to libya? foolish eurorweenies becarful
the inmates are loose, and worse than that, they are running things. Hearing it said that the opposition seems to take delight in regarding anything said by the Taliban as the Gospel Truth and anything said by a Canadian as suspect and anything, anything at all said by an American as a lie sort of says it all.
As a retired Royal Navy Captain that I spoke with last week put it, “I think that we’ve become so addled in our thinking and policy, that it will take a nuclear explosion in our cities and the death of millions to smarten us up again.”
May he be very wrong.
“As a retired Royal Navy Captain that I spoke with last week put it, “I think that we’ve become so addled in our thinking and policy, that it will take a nuclear explosion in our cities and the death of millions to smarten us up again.””
Lets just hope its in Toronto where it won’t do any damage.
Horny Toad
I don’t care what the degenerate Brit socialists do with them…let them wring their hands over the prospect of sacrificing British citizens so their bureaucrats escape the duty of deporting criminals or locking them up…..in a stronger Britain thugs like this would be taken care of by citizens as soon as they were released “on bail”.
Do what you want with them…you imported your problems…just don’t “deport” them to Canada on an invite from Taliban Jack…unless they stay at his house.
A society not willing to defend itself is a society that doesn’t deserve to survive and most likely won’t.
Canada will follow Europe down the toilet.
People think the status quo is perminent. Ask Alexander about that one. Ask the Persians. The Romans. The Attic Greeks. No society exists without effort. No society is perminent. No society is beyond the rules of human nature.
Societies defeat themselves from within. Great societies die when they deserve to – when they forget what made them great and what it took to build it.
Amen to that!
“Lets just hope its in Toronto where it won’t do any damage.”
Horny Toad I think you forget that some of us would miss mississauga Matt. Besides, wouldn’t the big hole left behind cause Lake Ontario to swirl down the proverbial drain?