PetroChinada

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1. I mean, I want to believe… but the 30 round “clips” is a big problem for me.
   If he misspoke…I might give him a pass.

   1. Maybe he saw it in a magazine?

      1. Har! 🙂

   2. The 30 round clips can have a device added which limits the rounds to 5 which is legal.

      1. Clips aren’t magazines, hence Bonafide’s joke although I guess some might use the term.
         AKs don’t use clips.
         The “device” is usually a simple rivet.
         Pistol caliber mags could/can have 10 rounds.
         You could even buy those mags in .223 lol.

         1. I’ve never served as a cop or a soldier but I’ve been around enough cops, soldiers, and other professionals that carry weapons, as well as every mofo on the Saskatchewan prairie that carries some form of rifle everyday to know that far more gun people called magazines ‘clips’, than magazines.

            1. True. My Old Man was a WWII vet and he often said “clip” when referring to the magazine for his “three-O-three”. And yes, the rifle was an Enfield, not a .303; that was the caliber.

            2. Fair enough.
               I know a shit ton o dudes who call walleye, pickerel…

         2. The SKS can take a stripper clip if memory serves, and the good ol’ FN-C1/C2 does as well.

            I looked it up, and you’re right. AKs can’t take stripper clips because the gas piston is in the way. When you lock the bolt open, the gas piston doesn’t clear the mag well. It’s still hanging out there. You can take the mag out, and feed it with stripper clips and an adapter on the top, but that’s an outboard proposition.

         3. Buddy,
            They are Pickerel.
            North Bay guy.
            Heh,

            1. I love starting shit.

            2. I’m too far south to tell the difference between a walleye and a pike. They both look like fresh water barracuda. Nasty predators. What? Do you catch them just to club them to death?

            3. Not always. Sometimes we bugger them.

               Oh, just kidding, we’re not that stereotypical. They both make excellent eating if you know how to cook ’em, and will nourish you even if you don’t. Obviously the clubbing part is fun, no denying, but it’s not the real motivator.

   3. “30 round “clips” is a big problem for me.”

      Some sergeant may have lectured your sad sorry ass that a clip is a magazine and a bolt is a breech block but that doesn’t make it so.

      1. I’ve never been in the police or armed forces, but I’ve been loading 30 round magazines for my M1 carbine with 10 round stripper clips since my dad bought me the gun when I was 8 years old.

      2. ““30 round “clips” is a big problem for me.””

         Not for me. I understand the intent of the statement and that not everyone is a firearms expert.

   4. And how, pray tell can one tell if it’s full auto or semi at a distance? My legal semi auto .308 FN looks exactly the same as a full auto one on the outside, the only difference is internal, where the full autos have auto sears, and semi-auto guns do not.

2. Hope those guns are legal and registered!

3. Maybe dude who served was a cook…

   If true, I’m not surprised.
   How much shit have the Chicoms and Islamists smuggled into Canada?
   It’s a really big place and drug money buys space.

4. Identify the lease and location so some Alberta and Saskatchewan community based crime watch organizations can investigate and treat them accordingly

5. … I seen 3 armed guards around location kind of staying to the shadows and not coming into the right lights very much. When I was done unloading i asked our escort why and he just said there with petro China and don’t ask anymore… they were carrying fully automatic ak-47 with what looked like minimum 30 round clips.

   Now imagine the guards are with Petro America and the shrill screams coming from Carney and his media. Elbows Up

6. Security guards in Alberta, including those at private companies like PetroChina, generally do not carry firearms. While not impossible, it is rare and requires specific federal Authorization to Carry (ATC) under the Firearms Act, granted only for, say, specialized, high-risk, or specific wilderness, lawful, or occupational purposes.

   Authorization Required: To carry a firearm, a security guard must have a valid firearms license and a specific, often hard-to-obtain, Authorization to Carry issued by the federal government.

   __________________________________

   So, Laila Goodridge of the Conservative Party of Canada represents that Riding. Ask her if the Federal Govt. has provided authority for firearms to PetroChina. Then delete your search history. 😀
   https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/laila-goodridge(110918)

   1. “To carry a firearm, a security guard must have a valid firearms license and a specific, often hard-to-obtain, Authorization to Carry issued by the federal government.”

      Yes, absolutely. Essentially never issued except to armored car security companies, the ones who collect the cash and take it to the bank. Random dudes out in the fields? Not legally.

      1. “Yes, absolutely. Essentially never issued except to armored car security companies, the ones who collect the cash and take it to the bank. Random dudes out in the fields? Not legally.”

         I would agree (if this story is even true).

         This is Canada…guns are evil and icky…

7. Legit guys never say “clips” because we know the difference. If bro had said ” AKs with the big banana mag” I’d be more receptive. I also doubt -very- strongly they’d be issued long guns. Because really? They want to be visible to random truck drivers? And they want to be standing around with 8lbs of steel in their hands at -30F? Doubtful.

   But do I think there might be armed Chicom guards running around Canada? Given the Chicom police station in Toronto, armed guards are not a big stretch.

   “Guarding what?” is a good question though. What’s in Ft. Mac that you need 3 soldiers to stand over?

   1. People sabotaging equipment? But I guess it’s just a CCP mindset. All facilities down to and including port a potties are CCP property to be guarded. Keeps those millions of young men without a girlfriend occupied.

      1. This could be true, but only if the Federal government gave them a Special Deal to go armed like that as part of an ambassadorial staff or similar. Alberta would not issue them a permit. Not a chance in Hell.

         1. Generally speaking the Chicom tend to do as they please. They are CCP, they own everything, they have authority over everything. Nobody argues with them back home. They will threaten, blackmail or buy people. They will operate as they see fit. If they get caught their “diplomats” will smooth things out with the local government. They do what they want and ask for permission later. But if all this is true, an armed CCP presence extracting oil in Canada? We might look the other way but that might annoy the U.S. a great deal.

            1. “ Generally speaking the Chicom tend to do as they please. They are CCP, they own everything, they have authority over everything. Nobody argues with them back home. They will threaten, blackmail or buy people”

               Yep
               And we have made men that are cabinet ministers that if they ever decided to have a spine would get one phone call and fold like a lawn chair

   2. Chinese companies in Africa tend to have a security contingent that is heavily militarized, though they tend to keep a low profile; same in S. America. First I’ve heard of anything close to this in N. America, but you never know.

      1. “Chinese companies in Africa tend to have a security contingent that is heavily militarized…”

         They do, and they’re not shy about shooting the locals as we know from news stories over the years.

         Would they be cheeky enough to operate the same way in Canada? I assume they would -like- to do so, but would the RCMP and Feds actually let them do it? I’m going to agree with you. You never know.

         1. Commie military are very inflexible in doctrine and procedures. They probably have the same standard security procedures regardless of the countries they operate in. The CCP are very arrogant in attitude also, they are probably proceeding on the assumption they can do whatever they please on “their” turf.

   3. If it’s the case, then they are guarding the workers from being able to leave the workers paradise found at this sites, much in the same way that they guard all of their important installations.

      1. “…they are guarding the workers from being able to leave the workers paradise…”

         I think the weather is a better guard. “You can leave, but it’s -30F and the stove is here….”

         1. It is now, but it’s not always -30. They are probably the same as east german guards, looking inward not outward.

      2. You could have something there. Could be internal security, not fort extrernal threats.

8. LMAO…I just looked up the favored security details for overseas PetroChina (owned by China National Petroleum Corporation). It’s amazing what they’re willing to tell you. China National Petroleum is a CCP owned entity. Their private security companies (PSCs) are staffed by former members of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) or the People’s Armed Police (PAP). In other words, they aren’t “PRIVATE” at all. They’re Chinese military and the Goon Squad. They’re the same guys that had hidden police squads set up in Toronto and Montreal bossing around the Chinese immigrants to make sure they “behaved” themselves and acted as instructed (or someone back on the Mainland would take a Work Camp vacation for a few years).

   This is all kinds of shady…..and wasn’t there some caveat in that “Carney / China” Trade deal about China having more control over Canadian security issues?

   1. “ Their private security companies (PSCs) are staffed by former members of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) or the People’s Armed Police (PAP”

      In communist regimes there is no such thing as former military members, unless they are dead.

9. Don’t know why so many above are concerned about whether the “china guards” are using clips or magazines!
   There should be NO CITIZENS FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY :PACKING” IN THIS COUNTRY!!
   NONE!!!
   That’s where this SHITHOLE has decended to!!!!

10. What? Were they guarding the Chinese food?

11. I don’t know what’s going on with that story at all, but I have detected a new phenomenon in American political chat forums, a sort of reverse-ideology color revoliution attempt (rather clumsy since it’s easy to spot), apparently some of the big minds within the MAGA movement have decided that Soros was onto a good thing with the color revolution theme and so it’s being applied to discussions of countries the MAGA movement would like to annex to make America Even Greater than under Monroe. The Donroe Doctrine is the general file name for this sort of approach. It has been trotted out for Greenland and Canada so far. Be aware of it. Maybe you like it that way (half the people commenting here are American anyway). I find it interesting that the tactic has been co-opted for use by conservative nationalists. The general idea (as you’ll know if you are aware of how Soros operates) is to destabilize public opinion in target countries by creating memes and “facts” that are not really facts, in support of the narrative that the target country needs a new government (in this case, American military overseers). So for example, you post false stories about 90% of Greenlanders wanting to be part of the United States, or 80% of Canadians being this or that, with no supporting evidence, but in an attempt to deflect public opinion towards a desired outcome. It is clumsy and heavy-handed, Soros was much better at it.

    Just in case some of you thought nobody had noticed. I wonder if this story is an example Idesigned to support the meme that Chinese military secretly control Canada, a popular myth in hard-core MAGA circles).

    Now what the skilled color revolutionary does here is to respond with a withering criticism of Peter O’Donnell calling him a Carney supporter and dupe of globalism. Have at it, I know the pathways the color revolutions are meant to follow. The irony is, I would personally be delighted to wake up and find myself to be an American citizen, then I could move to Utah which is what I would do now if it were legally possible. So I am only commenting on this out of a dedication to full disclosure, and maybe in the case of this story, there is something real and not contrived, but anyways, be aware, dark games are being played by some people and you never know the real motivations of anyone posting in discussions on the internet, they may be paid to say what they say by a very different paymaster than you would suspect. Again, on U.S. forums, you run into people who appear to be in the employ of Putin or Chairman Xi to come up with some of the themes they profess to believe.

    1. Not sure I agree with the tactic
       Matter of fact I consider it as a kind of be careful what you ask for
       That being said
       Prior to 1776 all the European kingdoms saw North America as just a colony, and after the US became an entity the British used its possessions in North America as a tool to thwart US ambitions, a strategy being continued to this day under the auspices of the EU, WTO, UN and NATO …. well that is until Trump came along and broke their toys.
       So as much as I disagree with adapting a left wing strategy it’s important to keep things in perspective that North America is not a colony of Europe, and we (Canada) should stop acting like one

    2. I don’t know what’s going on with that story at all, but I have detected a new phenomenon in Canadian political chat forums, where “neutral” people give detailed descriptions of how Americans are fooling them mightily, all in service to Trump’s nefarious plans to conquer Canada.

       What crap.

12. L – When P.M. Mark Carney described his recent visit to China to meet with Premier Xi Jinping. He used the term “strategic relationship” and included something about having the RCMP co-operate with China’s police. Without collaboration, I can’t opine if that trucker saw, what he believes he saw. But it certainly is plausible.

    During the Korean War, there was a time, when the P.L.A. would have over run allied positions at Kap Young. The Princess Patricia’s Light Infantry refused to retreat and held the line against mass suicide charges, again and again, until their position was in the process of being overrun. They called in artillery strikes on their own position and huddled down in their foxholes. It worked. South Korea was saved.

    If 75 years later, the PLA are establishing Forward Operating Bases in Canada. I’m sure some veteran of the current P.P.C.L.I. would remind us; that legally speaking, there is a truce, but an actual peace treaty, to end the Korean War, has never been signed. Until then, It’s not over.

    What the truck driver describes may very well be seen someday, soon in the provinces, where the C.C.P. proxies have bought farmland. Who will ask their Premier to investigate? If we had a Free Press here, they’d be holding the government’s feet to the fire, instead of just keeping them warm.

13. Probably biggest surveillance/spy operation on the north American continent.
    What the hell can one expect from the Chinese/WEF agent that is the prime minister of this country?
    The population lives in blissful ignorance.

14. Why are they hauling mud components from S Alberta to Ft Mac? That would much, much more likely be coming in from Edmonton/Leduc or Lloydminster or almost anywhere north of Red Deer.

    1. “Mud components”? That would be water and dirt, right?

15. Drilling mud?
    Oh OK.
    Well ,imagine if a hostile government needed to keep bases for their army,right under the noses of the stupid citizens of Can Ahh Duh..
    After all, our politicians have been just fine with “Chinese Police Stations” and more than happy to take cash and political support..
    So why not military bases?
    The government media would never report such,even if they became aware .
    Appearance wise,there ain’t much difference between a huge industrial site and a military base.
    Logistics being the critical component.