This Land Is Our Land

We Are All Treaty People 20 Comments

Kevin Klein- Aboriginal title ruling raises alarm over property certainty in Canada

This is the first slippery edge of the slope. Today, it’s public waterfront land. Tomorrow, it could be any parcel of Crown land in an urban area — land that borders your home, your business, your industrial site. Even if private titles remain intact, the value and usability of your property can be directly affected by who controls the land next to it.

20 Replies to “This Land Is Our Land”

  1. Land title is the foundation of the nation. Without certainty of title you cannot call it a country.

    “Oh sorry, that house you bought for $1.5 million? Yeah, that actually belongs to Some Guy because Reasons. Oh yeah, your million and a half bucks? Yeah, shame about that.”

    Who’s investing if you can’t even be sure the government will honor your title of ownership?

    Living along the Grand River as I do, this is of immediate concern. The Indians sold all this land over the years, but if the government comes along and grants them ancestral ownership of the Grand, twelve miles either side from source to mouth, as the original treaty had it despite that they sold it, that includes all the towns and cities up and down the river.

    And how about Toronto? Mississauga? There are claims that could be made there too. Bogus ones, but aren’t they all bogus at this point?

    Would we really let them do that?

    1. Well, there are no general principles involved. The situation in Ontario is entirely different, legally. The question is, is there still any law? If the Liberals simply want to bugger the people of Ontario into the ground, this is clearly one of the ways they can do it. How badly do they want to do it? They have no obvious reason to do so, but then they have no reason to want to bugger Richmond either, do they?

    2. Toronto and Mississauga, have been settled for now, until the next generation of Indian Givers decide they want to be paid for the same land for a Fourth time, after being paid in 1787, 1805, and 2010 ($145 million).

  2. Well it might affect B.C. because most of it is not under treaty. But the way around it is simple…..give the land back to them….declare war on them and then fight them for it. That’s the difference between the FN history in Canada and the U.S. Canada (or the Crown) didn’t outright declare war on the FN, but it was implied and that resulted in the treaties. The U.S. declared war on them and conquered them.

    1. It would be cheaper to just give them the land back and stop giving them money.

      1. It would be quicker to eliminate all the judges and force the “natives” to stand on their own.

  3. What have citizens of Canada been paying these Bands for over the last century and more? Ten billion last year went to Indian Affairs… this doesn’t take into account all the extraordinary costs such as searching garbage dumps for missing women or awarding bands money to look for land disturbances, or the cows and plows settlements. Five percent of Canadians are taking this money and few of them pay taxes. And now the courts are instructing us to give back land? What kind of a deal did Queen Victoria sign?

  4. And exactly WHEN will the aboriginals be made to provide the survey maps, metes and bounds, and Recorded Parcel Maps of said lands of which they claim “ownership” ?

    Contemporaneous documentation … by aboriginal people.

    1. And not only that, but the vast majority of Canada is under treaties which all say something similar to that of Treaty 6 which says:

      “The Plain and Wood Cree Tribes of Indians, and all other the Indians inhabiting the district hereinafter described and defined, do hereby CEDE, RELEASE, SURRENDER AND YIELD UP TO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DOMINION OF CANADA, FOR HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN AND HER SUCCESSORS FOREVER, ALL THEIR RIGHTS, TITLES AND PRIVILEGES, WHATSOEVER, TO THE LANDS WITHIN THE FOLLOWING LIMITS, that is to say:” and then goes on to describe the geographic area.

      The Crown then can decide what to do with the land include sell it as fee simple.

    2. They can’t do that because the reservation layabouts can’t read a roadmap, much less a survey plot. All they can do is sit in their 3rd world reserve shacks – contributing nothing to society, forever on the public teat and endlessly whining for more.

      The parasites are too smart to lay claim over Forest Hill, Rosedale and the Bridle Path. That would rouse even the most brain-dead affluent (effluent?) liberals to push back. Maybe.

      mhb23re

  5. This is a freaking disaster. My small property is literally a mile and a half from the boundary of this monstrosity. (pardon me for the “mile”, but if the gentle reader ever, ever drop by this mostly flat and unattractive town, you will quickly learn that most parceled city blocks are 800m x 800m, that is, half a linear mile per side). I also have, right by my side, a reprint of the 1927 “History of the Richmond Municipality” by Thomas Kidd (which has a nice quaint elementary school named after him, again about a mile from my property.) I quote: “one can imagine the building up of these islands watched by the indians, for generation after generation, from their middens (…) and judging by the growth of timber (…) found growing on it, must have been abandoned by them for over a thousand years.” This municipality was built by the Irish and Englishmen, farmed by Punjabi and Dutch, had once a thriving Japanaese community (mostly fishermen), and today harbors a near majority ethnic Chinese population. Claims like these are beyond absurd and activist judges just create tension where it didn’t exist. OK. End of rant.

    1. I suspect there might be an uprising in B.C., but it will not be a FN uprising, but a general population uprising.

    2. ” but if the gentle reader ever, ever drop by this mostly flat and unattractive town, you will quickly learn that most parceled city blocks are 800m x 800m, that is, half a linear mile per side). ”

      Also, the major original north/south roads called #1 Road #2 Road, #3 Road (the main drag) all the way out to #9 Road are exactly one mile apart.

  6. so what, so what, so what??????? suggestion: talk to the ones that VOTE FOR THIS.
    m’kay? byatch byatch byatch about our form of DEMOCRACY,
    because that is what youre doing.

    1. Not much you can do about the imbeciles living in the vote-rich over-represented areas of the GTA, Montréal, Ottawa or Vancouver. They don’t care about your plight and figure none of this will adversely impact them.

  7. Yet another example of Dystopia.
    How many things have gone right to shit since the Should-have-been-aborted, Black-faced Imbecile and his clown car of twats was “elected”?

  8. Despite billions in successful land claim settlements, how is it that large numbers of reserves continue to have boil water advisories? The answer is that lawyer and “consultant” fees hoover up most of the settlement money. Huge sums go to surveying companies who try to figure out where the trap lines used to be. Unless someone puts their foot down, this is going to empty the treasuries of both federal and provincial governments across the country.

    1. They’ve had initiative and self-sufficiency bought out from them, using our tax dollars.

      Time to shut down the reservations and get these people into functioning society.

      Say what one will about the Asian Indian migrants to this country but at least they work. I’d hire one or two of them before I’d hire a half-dozen native indians, hands-down.

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