Alligator Alcatraz

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Fresh new appeal for the “plane ticket home” option.

32 Replies to “Alligator Alcatraz”

  1. We are learning that it was easy and cheap for Biden-Harris-Mayorkas to throw open our borders and let ten million losers, criminals, and certifiably insane creepsters invade our country … but it is much harder, expensive, and annoying to round them up and toss their asses OUT of the USA.

    Because of that, I welcome solutions like Aligator-Alcatraz. Only now … I find myself excited to learn of the FIRST escapee … returned to captivity in pieces … with some pieces missing.

    It seems The Trump Admin. learned a thing or two from El Salvador’s notorious CECOT prison … and we can replicate that kind of maximum security/discipline.

    1. How many of the 10 million are actually criminals and/or certifiably insane? Who certified them as insane? I don’t measure national pride in terms of how many people a government can toss in a prison, nor do I get “excited” when pondering the thought that some of these people might be attacked by an alligator. I don’t regard overstaying a visa as a criminal act any more than I regarded smoking marijuana as a criminal act in the days when it was a widely ignored felony.

      1. Dennis entering a country illegally is a criminal act so to answer your question 100%

        1. Doesn’t incarceration for simply overstaying a visa strike you as draconian? Punishment needs to fit the crime.

          1. It’s only incarceration while the … illegals receive “due process” prior to deportation. And self-deportation is always an option … with NO incarceration.

          2. “Doesn’t incarceration for simply overstaying a visa strike you as draconian?”

            No.

      2. Then why issue Visas at all? Why not just have open borders and citizenship for all comers?

        You know … like Canada’s Visa Laws? If I tell the Canadian Border Police that I am visiting Jasper Park for 3-weeks, but then stay and get a job (that Canadians just won’t do) and establish defacto illegal residency … what do you believe would happen to me? Should happen to me? Should I go buy some legalized marijuana?

        1. If I overstay a visa, get a productive job and contribute to the economy, whose rights am I violating? Who’s being harmed? Why not just take this as proof of one’s willingness to be a productive citizen and let the person stay? As far as border crossers who engage in serious criminality, I’d rather have them locked up within the country as opposed to sending them back to a possibly corrupt society where they could escape and make their way back here.

          1. Because you illegally invaded a country and took a job away from a citizen of that country.

            Borders
            Language
            Culture (Laws)

            Those are the minimum requirements for civilization.

          2. You are likely also committing criminal violations in document fraud or identity theft to be able to build that life as an illegal that you described.

            In addition, the basic economics of it is that the answer to your question of “who’s being harmed?” is the other people in the labor force, whose wages are put under a downward pressure caused by the increase in the supply of labor.

          3. You are violating the rights of the citizens who, through government, established laws pertaining to legal entry, residence, naturalization, and citizenship. You were allowed to stay for a short time, but you decided to violate those terms.

            Like if you invited me into your home for the evening, but I decided I can stay permanently because the couch is comfy and I wash the dishes on Tuesdays.

          4. Took a job away from a citizen? No one “owns” their jobs. If someone moved from California to Texas for employment, did they take away the job of a Texan? It makes no difference whether the border is national, state or civic.

            Immigration from one nation to another does not depress wages. This myth is a variation on the fixed pie fallacy; i.e. the notion that more workers subtract from the wealth of an economy as opposed to adding to it. If an influx of workers depressed wages, Alberta would have the lowest wages in Canada and Newfoundland the highest. In reality, the opposite is true.

            Additionally, your personal residence is not a country. Flip that argument around and see where it leads: does the nation own your house or your business and as such gets to tell you who to let in?

          5. “Dennis” … sorry you sound more like a ‘Gurinder’ … National Borders and State borders are nothing alike. Perhaps you need a US civics lesson. Look up: “Interstate Commerce Law”. Or take the EU … where their ‘collective’ borders are nothing like their internal member State borders. Again, a Western civics lesson is needed.

            It matters NOT what you “believe” is right or wrong. All that matters is the LAW. And as Democrats like reminding us … “no one is above the Law”

        2. How many times did the readers of SDA violate some public health order during the Covid lockdowns? Failed to wear a mask, allowed too many people on your property, stayed out past a curfew or violated a quarantine order? I freely admit to violating at least some of these orders countless times. Most of the population thought that people such as myself should be fined or worse. After all, we were arguably inflicting harm, real or potential, on other citizens. What’s the difference between this and the illegal immigration issue?

    2. To the point on illegals:

      Taxpayer Burden: Where the Money Really Goes
      Illegal immigration costs American taxpayers over $150 billion annually, with significant expenses in healthcare, education, and law enforcement at state and federal levels. According to a 2023 study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), this net cost reflects $182 billion in annual expenditures offset by roughly $31 billion in taxes paid by an estimated 15.5 million illegal immigrants.
      Healthcare: Emergency medical care for illegal immigrants costs taxpayers $18.5 billion each year, including $11.2 billion funded through federal programs like Medicaid, as FAIR’s analysis estimates based on government data and hospital records.
      Education: Public schools spend over $59 billion annually educating undocumented children, with states like California and Texas bearing more than $10 billion each, per FAIR’s breakdown.
      Law Enforcement: The government allocates $23 billion yearly to policing, detaining, and deporting illegal immigrants who commit crimes, according to federal spending reports cited by FAIR and by the House Committee on Homeland Security’s 2024 interim report on border crisis costs.
      The Hidden Cost of Illegal Immigration on American Taxpayers & Resources | The Financial Guys
      https://thefinancialguys.com/in-the-news/illegal-immigration-economic-impact/

      “Concerned” citizens feel free to anti-up more of your personal funds to preserve the illegal community.

      1. Bravo!

        And let me add that our schools have been decimated by the illegal invasion. How? Why? Because test scores are plummeting throughout the USA … but especially poor results in immigrant school districts. Illegals are dumbing-down America. What have the schools done? They simply “graduate” all these uneducated dolts. The illegals presence alone is dragging our schools down. These children haven’t come here to learn … they’ve just come here to TAKE.

  2. Dow Jones … UP 415 points!! approaching record territory at 44,525 !!!

    Two months ago … all the “wisest” most “expert” market prognosticators… WARNED of a 1929 DEPRESSION because of Trump’s reckless imposition of Tariffs. Smoot-Hawley!! squawk! Oh my!

    On the contrary… the financial markets have enjoyed the fastest two months growth … EVER

  4. While I understand the need, showing off your new internment camp is probably a bad idea.

    Secure the border, get the criminals out. This place better be a temporary stop on the way back to whatever hole they came from.

    1. Given the history of the Covid lockdowns, when so many SDA readers rightly opposed draconian measures such as curfews and throwing due process out the window, extolling the virtues of prison camps is not a good look.

      1. What part of throwing lawbreakers into jail do you consider “draconian”? Be precise.

        1. How many times did you violate a public health order during the Covid era? Do you not consider arrest and fines for failing to wear a mask or attending an outdoor gathering to be draconian? I remember when Max Bernier got hauled off by the police, jailed and sent back to Quebec for trying to have an outdoor meeting in Manitoba. The authorities claimed he was potentially harming others. It was only because people like SDA readers spoke out and protested against these measures that they finally ended.

      2. 1. These illegals are a ‘flight risk’ for obvious reasons. Hence no bail imprisonment.
        2. They are imprisoned without bail, while they wait for their “due process” demanded by leftist Democrat tools. This is the exact OPPOSITE of suspending constitutional rights as was done during the COVID construct for total fascist control. These illegals are being granted “constitutional rights” that I don’t personally believe invaders deserve … anymore than I believe birth tourists should drop “American” babies by flying here from a foreign land … with foreign citizenship. Something not possible in ANY other nation on the planet
        3. You don’t believe in borders or nations, hence you see any and all LAWS regarding illegal immigration to be null and void. They aren’t.
        4. This is ONLY happening because we illegally … in violation of all our laws … threw open our borders by sitting our hands and doing NOTHING to stop an invasion other than to LITERALLY hang a Bienvenidos sign on the border. 4-years of a LAWLESS Presidential autopen Admin.

    2. This is a place to hold foreign nationals who have entered or remained in the USA illegally until they have been processed and deported.

      It is not for permanent incarceration.

      It is also adjacent to an airstrip, so foreign nationals could be deported immediately from this location.

  5. Plenty of room for all the Dem’s and Rino’s and while you’re at it, also everyone involved in the Plandemic depopulation agenda. Let’s start will Bath House Barry and Nan Pelosi.

  6. It looks like it could be kinda nippy in the winter. Detainees are going to need extra blankets or space heaters.

      1. It’s literally in the middle of the largest swamp in the world. Oh yeah … they’re gonna want to strip naked and stand in front of the AC

  7. Hey Dennis:

    These illegals didn’t overstay a visa, they never applied for one in the first place. Their crime is entering the country and not reporting immediately to a customs and immigration office. Just entering and disappearing into the crowd, that is a crime.

  8. There is a legal route to enter America, as there is with the UK and EU.
    Lee Anderson (UK MP) asked the Albanian Ambassador, “Why would an Albanian travel across Europe to Calais and pay EU5000 to a people trafficker, when he could buy a Wizz Air ticket from Albania and fly to Heathrow for £25?
    Ambassador: “I don’t know”.
    LA:”Is it because to be allowed into the UK he would have to show documentation which would tell us exactly who he is, and what, if any, criminal convictions he has”?
    Ambassador: “I don’t know”.

    Dennis, if there were no legal way into the US you might have a point. But as there is, you don’t.

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