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  1. My god, 25% of Americans want better paying value added jobs making things, because its probably better than working in Fast Food or convenience stores. The Horror!

    1. They may also want golden geese, it’s not the government’s job to provide your desires.

    1. His entire point is that it’s a case of making choices for others. A large and dumb portion of the public has an entirely irrational nostalgic attachment to the ‘vibe’ of factory work but the actual reality of doing that work does not appeal.

  2. He could rephrase the question. Would you rather work in a factory or be on welfare smoking meth?

  3. Well Duh!
    Making things is the real economy.
    Pushing paper is parasitic.
    Parasites need a host.

    Even in the case where a physical activity is not prima facie economic, there are knock-on effects. What is it worth in terms of national security to have a functioning steel industry? Chip Manufacturing. electrical infrastructure (i.e., turbines, transformers, conductors)? What happens to your country when the basic knowledge and infrastructure for those things no longer exists?

  4. Makes perfect sense to me. Luntz has a shallow intellect at best. He’s a monkey with a microphone and a calculator.

    Having a robust manufacturing capability on shore is appealing to anyone who understands supply chain problems during pandemics, general conflicts and war. Pretty sure America’s manufacturing capability was a significant factor in winning ww2. (Fact checkers?)

    80% seems like a small number to me. 25% that would actually want factory work is pretty significant. No contradiction detected.

    1. America has tons of manufacturing capability. It generates more value than ever in large part because the trite stuff got off-shored as it should be. That offshoring kept the supply chains working during the pandemic.

      In any event, the US military gets tons of money to figure this out for themselves and protect freedom. Sacrificing freedom to trade and the prosperity from that freedom for the sake of the military is immoral and backwards.

        1. Let’s not offend running toilets, gym… Whatever that reference is supposed to mean.
          (geez!)

          –Your arch nemesis, the REAL fc.

  5. https://warroom.armywarcollege.edu/articles/stubborn-things/

    “In fact, the United States lacks the capacity to support the replacement demands of any military force capable of defeating China, in the compressed timeframe it should expect to have to do so. For example, the United States used to be the world’s export leader in steel production. Today, it is the largest steel importer in the world, dependent on others for one of the fundamental building blocks of military hardware. Meanwhile, Chinese manufacturing is now nearly double that of U.S. production. China has also sought to control much of the rare earths minerals market that is vitally important to the U.S. ability to build and sustain military systems, information technology, and all manner of other essential products.“

    With deepest respect to Milton Friedman, sometimes offshoring manufacturing is not a big brain move.

    1. No it’s always big brain. America didn’t get wealthy by bitterly clinging to old unprofitable crap.

      If the US military needs metals, stockpile it. If the US military needs refiner capacity, then the US military should build its own dedicated refinery for the US military. They certainly have the money. But hey good news-the aid to Ukraine is actually helping gin up US arms manufacturing!

      1. “America didn’t get wealthy by bitterly clinging to old unprofitable crap.”
        You’re correct, for once, except…
        They got wealthy for building quality products, but they stopped doing that because it was cheaper to off-load manufacturing to other countries like China and India, thanks to freer trade, and global supply chains. These countries substituted building quality products with building crap.

        With the current trade structure in place, America’s wealth declined. Which is why I believe Trump is trying to re-establish manufacturing in the USA, and with that, supply chains independent of the global trading system. Trump is attempting to destroy the system which allowed other countries to access America’s wealth, and that has the globalists freaking out.

        –the REAL fc.

    2. Speaking of replacing soldiers … it appears as though Ukraine is the poster child for hitting the replacement capacity wall.

      1. despite any contrary claims or boasting ov victories here and there, Ukraine is doomed by the very sam effect Russia used in all its wars; attrition.

        1. “despite any contrary claims or boasting ov victories here and there, Ukraine is doomed by the very sam effect Russia used in all its wars; attrition.”

          As almost everyone already knew, years ago. Wasn’t exactly rocket science.

          (well, everyone except Jessica and her sock puppet ‘Surfer’…)

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