A Covid Vaccine Story

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  1. TBH I don’t know anyone who was vaxxed that didn’t have some sort of adverse reaction. Some of the mild ones are simply much more prone to catch cold and flu and suffer more severely. Others include heart problems, lung problems, nerve problems and most famously turbo cancer. 2 family members died from turbo cancer and one other died from blood clots.

    1. Depends on the lot number that the person receives. Some lots produced more serious side effects than others. The only explanation I can think of is the variance of potency between the lots, but maybe some of the scientists in our little group can elaborate further.

  2. Great story!
    New respect for John Rich. I am really shocked that Trump had no idea about the way people felt about the jab.

    1. Agreed. It almost sounds like Trump is surrounded by yes men. Certainly asswipes like Lindsay Graham are two-faced, back-stabbing, yes men … but I suspect people like Susie and Stephen Miller tell Trump what it is.

      Kudos to the cowboy for telling it like it is … and that Trump was boxed-in … and really had no choice but to trust the experts … or have ZERO chance at reelection… but never MANDATED the vaccine. Never MADE truckers take the vaccine, or fire military personnel who refused the vaccine.

      1. “It almost sounds like Trump is surrounded by yes men. ”

        Yes. As are all people in leadership positions. Power attracts fart-suckers. Unfortunately, most leaders fail to recognize it because they are sociopathic narcissists who think fart-sucking is normal and natural behaviour. In a majority of cases they were fart-suckers themselves.

    2. They didn’t want him to know. It was all part of their evil plan to keep him in the dark.
      But Trump SHOULD HAVE known! It was his job to know. If we knew, how could he not have known unless he didn’t want to know.

      In another thread, I mention that the chinks in Trump’s armor are getting too numerous to ignore. Trump not knowing about that dreaded concoction was probably his biggest chink of all.

      His one redeeming value in this episode was the fact that he never mandated that illicit, ineffective, and unsafe drug, but I think that was just out of sheer ignorance more than anything else.

      2. Sheer ignorance? Nice try. It’s called Liberty. For you to chalk his decision to not mandate it up to “sheer ignorance “shows how stupid and biased you are. President Trump gave you the opportunity to take it or not. Not Biden or Harris. Complain about them.

        1. Maybe I was “stupid and biased” when throughout the last election cycle, I’ve declared my bias for Trump many times over, but of course, you weren’t around for any of those comments, weren’t you?

          Nice try, yourself! What you refer to as being “stupid and biased,” I say is more like clear, objective thinking… a refusal to submit to my own personal bias, and look at the situation for what it is.

          And if you don’t believe me, why don’t you have this conversation with the trolls on this site who’ve condemned me, along with everyone else, who supported Trump?

  3. “Because every human being out in that rally, either themselves or they know someone directly, who has been harmed by the vaccine or has even d*ed from it, including me.”

    What they mean is they know people who got vaccinated (which is most people) who later had some health problem. They’ve convinced themselves that the COVID vaccine was the cause, but really have no clue.

    This is why anecdotal evidence isn’t worth much. The only way to know for sure whether a vaccine is causing undo health problems is through controlled studies.

    1. Which the vaccine company should be doing, but since they vaccinated their control group they cant,

        1. Oh look.
          Another paper that says “when we only look at papers that support our conclusion, our conclusion is correct”
          How twee.

        2. You’re the one that are gung-ho producing all the studies.

          Well, FYI… there are dozens of contradictory studies, but why, KM would you refuse to look them up? They’ve been presented here, but you won’t refer to them. Why is that?

          I have a hypothesis. It’s called “confirmation bias.” You either intentionally or not, will dismiss and ignore any study that doesn’t line up with your conclusion. I’m not faulting you for that. It’s simply human nature: No one wants to be proven wrong, so people like you who are not self-aware, will instinctively ignore any facts that don’t fit your narrative.

          You have to know that some of these studies were pulled or retracted by their publishers. I recall that even the Lancet, a supposedly reputable publisher, had to retract a study because of bogus methodology and faulty data.

          Since you’re the one that likes to rely on studies, I don’t see why it’s our job to counter your references. We’ve already done that. Where were you? Were you out of town on vacation, or what?

          Personally, I don’t need an anecdote. I have my own personal experience to rely on. I NEVER took the vaccine, and I NEVER GOT SICK to the point where I needed serious medical attention. I don’t even know if I ever got covid, because I never bothered to get tested, because I already knew that PCR tests were bogus, with the only intent behind the testing was to drive up the fear factor.

          The worst I ever felt was a little queasiness, some loss of appetite, and lack of energy, which lasted no more than a couple of days. That happened only once near the end of the crisis, and so I never regretted not taking the vaccine, even though I paid a heavy price for not complying.

          If I did get covid, then I am relieved to know that I now have NATURAL immunity which studies have shown (no I’m not going to waste time digging them out… you do your own research) are far more effective than anything that concoction with it’s infinite amount of boosters can provide.

          1. “Well, FYI… there are dozens of contradictory studies”

            And yet you don’t cite any of them. How strange.

          2. KM…. What happened to your reading skills? I’ve thoroughly explained why I didn’t produce any studies, because a) It’s not my job, because I’m not a scientist, and b) because all those studies and rationales, and anecdotes that you have chosen to ignore, have already been presented on this site, yet YOU REFUSE to acknowledge any of those comments, and life experiences of the individual posters.

            How strange!

          3. fc:

            The real reason you don’t cite studies is because you can’t. They either don’t exist, or they are of such shoddy quality they’re an embarrassement.

            Evidence talks, unsupported claims walk,

            And that includes “life experience”, which any poster here can easily lie about, and wouldn’t be coinvincing even if they were true,

    2. Nor was the anecdotal nonsense about how many people “died of COVID” … when, at the most … they died “with COVID” … as a “case” of COVID or some such nonsense. And two years AFTER COVID hysteria … all the County Health Departments all had to retroactively revise all the causes of death … lest the statistical anomaly of COVID-only deaths for two years will just certify what LIARS all the so-called Public Health Officials were … are.

    3. Anecdotal evidence can be very meaningful, particularly when it’s your anecdote. Lots of people know of cases where people have been harmed after the vaccine. Enough examples, and there is a narrative. You can dismiss their concerns, but when the examples of harm are part of your life experience, abstract arguments about no correlation have little impact.

      1. Harmed after the vaccine does not mean harmed because of the vaccine.

        It doesn’t matter how deeply you feel that a vaccine caused some reaction. In any one particular instance, you can not be certain.

        1. And not getting covid after getting the vaccine does not mean that the vaccine prevented it. Many people (at least myself and one other friend) did not get the vaccine and did not get covid

        2. “And not getting covid after getting the vaccine does not mean that the vaccine prevented it.”

          True. But controlled studies can determine how much, on average, the vaccine prevents COVID n the population at large.

          1. Yes..and the real time experience of the passengers and crew of the Diamond Princess where less than 25% of people (in a confined space..the ship) caught the disease and 14 (almost all elderly) died out of 3711 people aboard….gives a good idea of its effect on a population skewed toward the elderly.

          2. Since almost all of the population has had covid, one should be able to conclude the vaccine doesn’t do much to prevent covid, if anything?

          3. Peter:

            It was recognized early on (2021) that the COVID vaccines were not as effective at preventing COVID as first hoped, especially as the strains mutated. In that respect it was oversold by public officials.

            But it was also recognized that the COVID vaccines were excellent at preventing hospitalization and death.

            https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

        3. killer unME
          My friend in Florida, a registered ICU RN,respiratory specialist took the shots, and spent 2 years recovering, and that is solid anecdotal evidence. You are just a fukking idiot like jessica .
          As a service tech, anecdotal and observational was my main stay, and very effective. Also an industrial engineer will tell you that as well. Then there is my friend who just got her Masters in psychology, who was surprised by the fact that they use anecdotal evidence supported by statistics.

          1. I once devised a way of curing the common cold by wrapping the neck in a poultice of boiled oats. But no one would accept my evidence. They said it was a necked oatal.

    4. The health “experts” could have asked the unvaccinated people, but it seems their opinions weren’t of any value to those who were selling the jab. Those who said they had religious or health reasons to not take a vax were ostracised, not permitted to sit in restaurants, the F-ing Premier of second rate New Brunswick mused of not permitting unvaxed people to go into grocery stores, which I think the best response would have been open rebellion to his idiocy. The health “experts” in most countries stopped counting the unvaxed as a control group and counted everyone in the hospitals in the same group, destroying, or tainting their own data, while refusing to accept that alternate care regimens may have worked. Most notable in countries where “river blindness” was prevalent and medial “experts” said that isn’t within a “controlled study” …

      I’ve met people like that in the medical community… they’ll say “how could you ask such a thing” or “why didn’t you ask” to the same question (though it’s not really a question, they’re simply responding to your question that it isn’t worthy of a decent response), but they’ll respond in a way they think will help their case the best, depending on how you’ll react to their idiocy. They only vary on the degree of dismissiveness, and not the final decision.

      and now, those people who advocated for the jabs… I rarely care how their turbo cancer affects them, not if their cancer eats their brain, or eats them from within while they suck fluids through a feed tube.
      They had the full force of the country’s gov’t behind them, and they’ve shown what they’re capable of when there isn’t a limit to their power, those garbage people should NEVER have power again.
      and then to lie about it to say “we didn’t force anyone to take a jab” while they clearly said citizens weren’t permitted to do normal things and the gov’t KNEW THEY DIDN”T HAVE THE DATA TO SHOW FOR IT.

      F those people, hard.

    5. Bull shit! My wifes heart issues started after her 2nd jab.
      Controlled studies!!! And who funds these studies?
      Hard to forget how the respected sources such as the Lancet
      showed us who funds & owns them.

      1. COVID vaccines do not prevent heart problems.

        If you have a hate-on for the vaccines, you will naturally assume that anything that happens after was caused by the vaccine, but in any one instance it’s impossible to know. Only controlled studies can unwind cause and effect.

        The funding for studies is stated in the papers describing the studies. In most cases, the funding is the institution that the researchers belong to, or the government, or private donations, or some combination.

        So no, the pharmaceutical companies had no hand in funding most of these studies,

        1. The mRNA of the vaccine is injected into the body and enters the cells it reaches. Within those cells, it replicates until either the cell bursts..dying or the spike protein protrudes from the cell, causing the immune system to kill the cell. In either case the cell is killed….Now given the billions of mRNA strands in a single jab, that leads to a lot of cells killed. If those cells happen to be clustered in an organ, that organ is going to be damaged. The more important the organ, the more severe the result to the body.

        2. Controlled studies are nearly impossible at this point since the pharmas vaccinated their control group.

          2. KM…Really? So what about analyzing long-term effects? How can you evaluate results of not being vaccinated after say… about 10 years or so, if your control group has already been vaccinated?

            C’mon… You’re the scientist. Please explain how that’s even possible?

        3. KM, that is disingenuous at best. The last couple years have documented the incestuous relationship between pharma, the NIH and the FDA, to the point where if it were a private sector only operation, RICO would be in play.

          1. I’m not talking about any of those. I’m talking about research hospitals around the world.

        4. No hate on vaccines.
          I have never had a vaccine that requires boosters to the moon.

          Tell me varmit. Have you taken all of the vaccine boosters?

    6. well explain this mr f**kface, l was compelled into taking the mRNA.
      details dont matter.
      2 yrs later lve had
      -a mini stroke,
      -diabetes advances into neuropathy stage after almost 20 years, and
      -a dozen courses of antibiotics when the adolescent acne flairs up after sitting idle for half a century.
      ‘anecdotal anecdotal sing along with me anecdotal la la la la la’
      speaking of killing, who do l now kill to get even with what almost happened
      and may still?

        1. That’s it? His language?

          There’s nothing like a compassionate person and you’re nothing like a compassionate person.

          2. Hey, great news everybody, the way to get f*ckface Killer Marmot to shutup is to call him f*ckface.

          3. So… You’re going to ignore and dismiss his life experience because he called you a name?
            Geez… what a thin-skinned, cop-out!

            NOT BUYING IT. You’re simply a coward, and your trying to justify your cowardice with faux outrage.

          4. fc:

            You call me a coward, but I don’t see you defending a contrary position against all you’re buddies here. You prefer to run with your crowd all the while congratulating yourself how you’re not a sheeple. Nice and safe and warm with all the people who agree with you.

          5. KM… Your own actions have condemned you to be a coward, but if you ask anyone who knows me, you’ll understand how much your criticism of my “being comfortable with people who agree with me,” is so far up a tree, it challenges your own credibility.

            I’ve proven time and time again that I don’t care what other people think. I speak to what I perceive is the truth, based on my own life experiences and observations.

            And to that, I’ve paid a heavy price many times over for speaking out, and refusing to shut up, but I will say this… You’ve also spoken up and defied the rest of us by voicing your own opinions on this matter, and for that, you’ve earned a certain amount of respect, but I must caution you to stop beating this dead horse, trying to prove you are right. You’re NEVER going to convince the rest of us that these vaccines were a godsend, because we know through our own personal observations what these vaccines truly represent, so stop trying to gaslight us.

          6. No, I’m not going to convince you.

            The mistake you make is thinking that I’m trying to. I’m addressing those who view these discussions but don’t post, and who are on the fence about vaccines.

            What they see is one side that presents little to no hard evidence, but instead heaves insults. And they see another side who regularly cites evidence, and only insults in response to insults (and then only rarely). So who would they trust?

    7. Your intentional stupidity is charming but doesn’t cover for the fact that ALL of the “covid” theatre, from “vaccines” to lockdowns were a Nuremberg-worthy crime.

      I did morgue calls in large AB hospital for 10 years leading up to the plandemic. Thru previous morgue bookings (had all books on hand) I could demonstrate that there were no more deaths than normal … until the jab. That’s when I portered vax injured patients (strokes, paralysis etc) … but to you, it’s all anecdotal. To those tricked or coerced into the jab, it was life-changing in the worst way. But not admissible unless blessed by the ethically compromised.

      BTW, a “controlled” industry doesn’t do worthy controlled studies. That’s how we ended up here.

      1. You do realize there was a pandemic going on, right? One would have to be monumentally stupid not to at least consider the possibility that COVID itself might be increasing the death rate.

        And BTW, most of the controlled studies were carried out in universities and research hospitals, and were independent of the pharmaceutical industry.

        1. And just how much of that “crisis” was manufactured fear because of a coronal virus that was only a little more serious than the annual flu?

          And BTW… The universities had just as much skin in the game as the pharmaceuticals, and government… which was doing everything they could to peddle this witches brew.

          Why do I say that? Imagine what would happen to their government funding if they released results countermanding the government narrative?

          Just look at what they did to Drs Bridle and Hodgkinson, to name only a couple of the many physicians that dared to speak out against this “vaccine.”

        2. “there was a pandemic going on, right?”

          Wrong.

          Everything needed was learned from Diamond Princess.

          And then promptly run over by the COVID crime against humanity narrative juggernaut.

          You are likely harming real people with your continued bad info.

          Please stop.

          1. You deny there was a pandemic?

            Some views are so wild and crazy that there’s no arguing with them.

          2. KM… if our views are so “wild and crazy that there’s no arguing with them,” why then do you persist in continuing the argument???

            And (I can’t believe I’m defending the anti-Israel MMBB on this), I don’t think MMBB was denying COVID. He is simply pointing out our governments’ over-reaction to the “crisis.”

            But you continue to choose to read things that aren’t there, and I suggest you stop doing that. You’re not doing yourself any favors.

          3. Why do you persist in debating me? You’re not going to convince me, especially with the arguments you guys present. What do you care if someone posts a comment you disagree with?

    8. Nearly every single thing we have been told about covid was a lie. It’s unfortunate you don’t have enough intelligence to realize you have been duped or to change your mind. You must be a real joy to be around. So have you got your tenth booster yet or are you at only number nine?

      1. Ah yes, I must be stupid because my views don’t fit into your super-seized delusions.

        1. I strongly suggest you read “Blink” by Malcolm Gladwell. As for independent studios, there were none. All were funded by interests. 2 of the treatments are off the market. 30 + years of MRNA associated testing in animals yeilded no viable results- but hey -let’s use it on humans. You are far to invested in your narrative.

    9. KM… The people John Rich was referring to were otherwise completely healthy before being forced to take the drug, but nice try.

      1. No, Rich didn’t actually say that. He wouldn’t have known anyway, since people do not tend to share their complete health history even with their relatives. Nice try.

        At any rate, there’s no way to verify that his claims are true. This guy is bragging that he convinced the president that the vaccines were unduly harmful, but is he lying? Has he deceived himself? We have no way of knowing.

        1. I agree that Rich didn’t explicitly say that, but it was generally understood nonetheless that the people who suffered after taking the “vaccine” were previously healthy people with zero comorbidities.

          And YOU are the one who is denying FIRST-HAND TESTIMONIAL of someone who WAS ACTUALLY PRESENT when the subject was being discussed.

          You can’t possibly be in a deeper state of denial than you already are, but something tells me that you will continue to try.

          1. Why would I deny evidence that could well either be lies or at least highly inaccurate, and wouldn’t be convincing even it were absolutley true? ‘Tis a puzzlement.

    10. Anecdotal evidence is all we’ve got and it’s all we’ll ever have because the vaccine companies sure as hell aren’t going to expose themselves by conducting honest controlled studies. Hell, they never even finished their studies on the effectiveness of Ivermectin. And that’s because they already knew the answer to that question before they rolled out their clot shot, and they sure as hell didn’t want the rest of us to know that they already knew it. And it’s also why Ivermectin was immediately pulled off the shelves of veterinary supply houses, and the licenses of doctors and pharmacists were threatened if/when they prescribed it.

      But there were way, way, way too many anecdotal ‘coincidences’ of healthy young athletes dropping dead, young people’s faces, suddenly drooping, and people’s kidneys & eyes suddenly ceasing to function shortly after the vax (not to mention the turbo-cancer that showed up later). And I for one don’t believe in ‘coincidences’. Correlation doesn’t necessarily point to causation, but sometimes in fact, it definitely does. And since the vaccine companies won’t finish their ‘due diligence’, we’ll just have to go with the anecdotal evidence.

      1. We have far more than anecdotal evidence. We have study after study after study, most of which were NOT carried out by the drug companies, but rather by independent researchers from around the world.

    11. There are many cases of people dropping dead within a day or less of receiving a dose of COVID Crime Against Humanity.

      There is no question what caused those.

      The acceptable rate of death or damage for anything medical that is not critically urgent is ZERO.

      1. Of course there are many cases. When you administer any vaccine to a million senior citizens, say, a few hundred of them will drop dead within a day simply in the natural course of things.

        But is the vaccine actually causing this? The only way to tell for sure is through scientific — preferably controlled, randomized, and double blind — studies. Anecdotes don’t cut it. They are too deceiving and skewed by our own biases.

    12. Like this controlled study on GIANT RODENT TUMESCENSE??

      “Controlled studies” are less than worthless; they produce false confidence in a corrupted system. The Replication Crisis has been going on for at least a decade. You simply cannot cope with the notion that science research as practiced does not work the way you were told it does, because that’s too threatening to your worldview and self-image.

  4. Operation Warp Speed which quickly developed the vaccines and the emergency use directive to use the citizenry as lab rats all came from Trump.

    1. Warp speed DID strip away the normal guardrails, checks and balances erected by the FDA to ensure our medications are effective and safe. But, but, but … EMERGENCY!!!! It seems our society collectively lost our minds in belief we could “save everyone” … that we can stop death. If we all just trust the science we can live forever!! Yeah … our society proved we would trade anything and everything … our very freedom and bodily autonomy … when the science and the doctors promised eternal life. Fools. Utter Fools.

      If Trump didn’t go along … he’d have been called a “killer” … a “hater of science … a hater of mankind” A “bleach advocate” … blah, blah, blah. He had no choice, if he wanted to be re-elected.

      Blame Fauxci … blame Pence … before you blame Trump. They’re the primary LIARS. Fauxci LITERALLY called himself “science” … inerrant, literal, unquestionable … “science”

      1. Sorry, Kenji. You know I love Trump, but he did have a choice.
        Just as Brian Mulroney called out John Turner in that famous debate that won him the 1988 election with a solid majority by challenging his statement that he “didn’t have a choice,” so did Trump, and if the truth ever gets on track, Trump could find himself on the wrong side of the proverbial gun barrel.

  5. I have found it odd that the only thing the left does not criticize Trump over is Operation Warpspeed.

    1. “I have found it odd that the only thing the left does not criticize Trump over is Operation Warpspeed.”

      He trusted “the experts” to tell him the truth and do the right thing. He shouldn’t have.

    2. And don’t forget all the people who didn’t get vaxxed and suffered from all the other mandates. And, those that didn’t get vaxxed and died from the WuWHOKillerFlu.

      1. What about all those who got multiple.jabs and still died of covid. Lotsa them in that category.

  7. I never took the “clot shot” and that’s why I’m still of “pure blood.” During the rollout of the so-called 100% safe and effective “vaccine” I knew that taking something that wasn’t tested before, and wasn’t tested properly, was probably not going to be a a good thing.
    I was badgered by friends and family, my doctor, co-workers and all sorts of people urging me to take the shot.
    I was quite literally on the fence after a while but it was Justin Trudeau himself that saved me from taking the shot.

    It was Justin Trudeau and his idiotic, stupid non-stop pushing of the shot that convinced me not to take it because I had learned after only a few years of the Idiot King being in power that I knew that I must do the opposite of whatever that f’kn POS Trudeau the Moron says to do.
    Thank you Justin Trudeau,you the personification of everything that is wrong with the world,thank you for convincing me and others I persuaded NOT to take that Covid 19 shot,

  8. This is all I need to know about this topic;

    https://www.justice.gov/pardon/media/1385746/dl?inline
    DR. ANTHONY S. FAUCI
    A FULL AND UNCONDITIONAL PARDON
    FOR ANY OFFENSES against the United States which he may have committed or taken part
    in during the period from January 1, 20 I 4, through the date of this pardon arising from or in any
    manner related to his service as Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases, as a member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force or the White House
    COVID-19 Response Team, or as Chief Medical Advisor to the President.

  9. My no bad habit coworker had a heart attack last weekend.. Married 2 kids.. He held out a long time on the “not a vaccine” but his wife insisted.. And he relented.. 48 years old..

    The cognitive dissonance around vaccine harm is open room odd.. People just cant, wont entertain the idea that was not safe and effective.. Hell, people will even vote for the political party that killed a loved one..

    That’s, put a sign on my front lawn, dedication..

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