Yesterday… “The old relationship we had with the United States based on deepening integration of our economies and tight security and military cooperation is over,”
Prime Minister of Canada– Today, the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, spoke with the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump. The Prime Minister and the President had a very constructive conversation about the relationship between our two countries.
The leaders agreed to begin comprehensive negotiations about a new economic and security relationship immediately following the election. In the interim, the leaders agreed that conversations between the Minister of International Trade and Intergovernmental Affairs and President of the King’s Privy Council for Canada, Dominic LeBlanc, and the United States Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnick, will intensify to address immediate concerns.
The Prime Minister told the President that he would be working hard for the next month to earn the right to represent Canada in those discussions.
The Prime Minister informed the President that his government will implement retaliatory tariffs to protect Canadian workers and our economy, following the announcement of additional U.S. trade actions on April 2, 2025.
I’m getting cognitive whiplash here. I think I’m going to retire from following politics until April 29.
Liberals be doin the Chicken Dance now. Elbows Up,Elbows Down,Up,Down,Up,Down.
Always in the bent over position.
So … your tough-talking interim appointed post-National, globalist, de-banking, PM brought Trump to heel! Yeayyyy Canada!! And I’ve got this really kewl bridge to sell you …
Is there anything that Trump can do that you would not immediately applaud?
Jessica da COLON
Is there anything any one ever does that you understand.?
I don’t understand your post, gym.
Gym’s got a boner for The One and Only. He’s a fool in love.
We’re Americans. It’s likely that Kenji voted for Trump. As for myself, I support my country and her leader out of more primitive, brutal reasons. He is easier to support than some others that I have had to, there’s that.
Of course we’re going to applaud what he does, especially if he wins. I don’t expect Canadians to do so; he’s not your leader. And, while I cannot answer for Kenji, I don’t care if you do or not…because you aren’t American.
If you became American, then I would care in a less disinterested way because you would then be one of my people.
Ok so you’re a drone.
Did you applaud Biden/Obama/Clinton too?
So you’re an Ontario parasitic sheep baaing for more clover. Did you bend over for Harper or only Juthtin? Same level of question.
It is the same level of question only when taken out of context. Read the post I replied to carefully.
I served them and did not want them to fail because they were the CinC and thus the executive power of my country; whether they did or didn’t fail was up to them. I quite like this President because he is making people like you (ones in power, even better) lose their minds. Next time try to read for comprehension
You’re delusional and you are trying to sell your thuggery as virtue. You’re also uncritical of your leader, you’re the antithesis of a free individual.
Nothing comes to mind
That is a problem, isn’t it?
Only if you have nothing to lose.
Canada doesn’t have to do anything to the US that they haven’t done to themselves. By taxing industrial inputs they have just priced themselves out of international trade while giving their citizens probably 25% inflation. Orange Hitler will be begging for forgiveness in a few months. The mid-term will be brutal for Republicans and it will be all self-inflicted. The last time the Republicans did the same thing 96 years ago it was called the Great Depression.
Funny thing … I just heard some Democrats MoFo scold a Republican talking about Trump’s SOARING American economy 2017-2019 … until Fauxci unleashed his bio-weapon on the planet … the Democrat said … “that was 2017-2019 … we’re in 2025 now”
So scar I say to you … that was 1929 … it’s 2025 now.
Right?
I detect a note of sarcasm in your post, Kenji.
But you should know that’s EXACTLY how Canuckistan media will spin this.
Yesterday, our unelected PM with no mandate to make major policy shifts declares that Canada’s alliance with the US is dead.
Today, Trump tweets that he and Carnage had a productive phone conversation leading to future negotiations with Carnage after the election.
I ask that you put your bias aside for a moment, look at this objectively, and tell me how you think this looks to you? To me… It has all the appearance of Trump blinking. I’m flummoxed!
It looks like Trump is playing Carney.
Mercilessly!
Carney is not and never will be working in our best interests.
Hey DanBC. You nailed it!!
That’s exactly how I see it.
He’s trolling your PM … by essentially telling him he has NO POWER to negotiate. He’s not a legitimate PM
He’s telling your de-banking, globalist, banker stand-in PM that he’ll wait till the Canadian voters choose a legitimate PM.
It’s really NOT that hard to “interpret” what Trump just told Carney … as he dismissed him.
Remember! Your ex-PM refused to negotiate with Trump. Now you have a fake PM … and so Trump … ever the negotiator he is … announced he is simply waiting for the Canadian Nation to elect a legitimate leader. Be fair to Trump. He’s had NOBODY … including NO Cabinet … to negotiate with.
Here’s what he is telling you. Let. Me. Spell. It. Out. Canada! Don’t BLOW IT! Don’t elect another PM who is as childish as Trudeau. Someone who has the power and legitimacy … gawd … and intelligence to negotiate.
And please let it be a REAL man … one who knows how to give and take the natural manly ribbing that real men give each other. It’s part of the negotiating process … for MEN. They check each other out man to man. Figuratively grab each other by the nuts and see how they react. Trudeau utterly FAILED the pre-negotiation test. Cause he has no testes. Trudeau’s a eunuch. And now he’s gone. Replaced by a FRAUDSTER plagiarizing FOOL.
Hey Canadians! You’ve got till April. 24 to get your shit together. Pssst … if 9years of malaise doesn’t wake you the hell up … then perhaps you’re just a lost cause?
https://youtu.be/x_pFuwmOPF0?si=Wq-KuX-TPoVu02MH
Your sorry eyes, they cut through bone
Make it hard to leave you alone
Leave you here wearing your wounds
Waving your guns at somebody new
Baby, you’re lost
Baby, you’re lost
Baby, you’re a lost cause
Yeah … Beck is a musical GENIUS
Sorry Kenji, for the first time I have a top level disagreement with you. Beck isn’t a visionary. He’s a loser, baby.
Just for laughs, auto-erect wanted to change my terms to “a loverly baby”. Rather different meaning, wot?
The President, at the end of the day, doesn’t care how a Canadian would see it. He isn’t your president. He isn’t going to lose any political capital in America by looking like he “blinked”.
The problem, for you, is the perception by your own people that your country’s future hinges on the whether or not my country’s president “blinks” to someone running for your election. That should tell you something about how far down the road of not having your own country you have gone. In a stable country this excessive waiting to see what my President says (not does, says) wouldn’t be so important.
Well… whether he blinked or not doesn’t really matter to our esteemed media, because that’s how they’re going to spin it.
I can’t keep up with the nonsense coming out of this campaign. More proof that we are in the grip of a mass formation where whatever the current maximum leader says is what we must do, even if that completely contradicts what he said the day before. It’s the pandemic mentality all over again.
Yeah it is that.
in the very long term like 400 years it is our nation’s interest a strong America exists that deterrs any aemed albeit non violent takeover of Canaduh whereupon the theft of our natural resources esp oil, begins.
we need a string of strong presidents to do that.
Trump is on our side. its called tough love.
exactly!….
Once Trump helps get Marx carnage voted in, to destroy kanada, USA can than pick it up as a territory for 10cents on the dollar, at some time in the future.
The hundred million target will probably be 60,000,000 chinese , 40,000,000 white-ish former Canadian slaves.
That is the general idea, gym. Why should Trump bother infiltrating Canada, when he can plainly see that Canada will implode on its own, and he can then just walk in to pick up the pieces?
Maybe that’s Trump’s strategy… to accelerate the process, because otherwise, I have no explanation for this radical behavior shift.
Trump may be on our side, but there is a myriad of typical Canadians (read: retards) who think Canada is defined by a winter sport, a coffee franchise and an auto parts store. All this and the illusion of free healthcare. These are the same people willing to cut of their collective nose to spite the face of a better way to do things and they’ll be quite content to sit there, with arms folded, smug in their ignorance and “wrongness”. I know toomany people like this, unfortunately. Many of them government “workers”, public sector union types and regular garden variety lazy NDP arse lickers. I look back to 2005-2007 when the Canadian ruble was riding high. Now it’s worth half of that thanks to bad governance.
“Trump may be on our side,”
What “our side” pray tell?
Open market small government conservatives.
How about “free trade means no protectionism. You want access to our market, open up your own market first.” Ask living-close-to-border shoppers about the difference in milk, butter, and cheese prices if you don’t understand what I mean. As I don’t live near the border, I also want access to lower US prices on goods. And don’t get me started on the sin taxes on beer, wine, and liquor imports…
And you think Trump is on the side of open market free trade conservatives?
It’s been estimated that about a quarter of the entire work force works in the public sector, particularly in government in one form or another.
I personally think that number is higher, but whatever the real number is, that is unsustainable. The general public cannot support that level of big government over the long term.
sooner or later, the socialists are going to run out of other people’s money.
It’s not a matter of “if,” but a matter of “when.”
(as an aside, it’s good to see that the word “force” is no longer being filtered.)
Yep.. Trump doesn’t care about Canada and why should he? I don’t understand this consternation about his actions towards us. And it’s obvious to me why he wants Carney to win.. Canada has stagnated under the Liberals by every economic indicator. Canada stagnating is good for the US.. capital flees from Canada and into the US… so why not keep it going. And another thing is.. and this was said above.. the Liberals have tariffed Canada far worse than Trump’s 25% with these idiotic carbon taxes. And the unmitigated disaster that was the pandemic response? Trump is the least of our worries. I’m going to retire if the Liberals win again. I can’t possibly earn under these circumstances.
Hey Eskie… last evening a random person standing behind me in the serving line said, “I’m still waiting to hear about Stephen Harper’s hidden agenda”. Says it all about sitting contently with arms folded….sucking back the lies.
So effectively if Trump is off the ballot we are back to where we were before Trump became an issue?
lets hope so
Ou contraire, this will played as Carnage successfully standing up to Trump.
Is Trump in a pissing contest with Putin?
“I’ll show you how to divide and conquer a country and not even have to fire a shot, the best sections will come running!”
I’m starting to realize that someone can be a smart businessman and a political idiot. I’m suspending my belief in the 4D chess theory until I see some proof.
Welcome to reality.
Ontario reality. Where everything revolves around you, because you are good enough, you are smart enough, and… gosh darn it, people like you.
I hope Alberta and Saskatchewan have a plebicite about statehood so we can get away from folks like you deciding how “our” nation should be run. Because it hasn’t been run in a way I would like in my lifetime.
Ugh hope springs eternal. You have been gaining momentum for separation and gaining and gaining. And then we had Wuhan flu lockdowns and you were gaining. And then we had Potato’s crackdown and you were gaining…
Meanwhile back in the real world, and the chip on your shoulder notwithstanding, Potato has been colonizing you with his enrichers, Redmonton and Nenshitown especially. You have now less chance for separation than you had a decade ago.
Besides Trump wants all of Canada to be the 51state, not just you. no matter how much you love yourself, how much you are going to convince yourself that Trump wanted just you and appreciated just you, the reality is that he does not give flying f@#$ about you and does not differentiate you from the rest of Canada. Sorry, try to cope.
You’re correct on this — it makes no sense to not take all of Canada if the opportunity presents itself. Strategically it’s far more advantageous.
However, getting part of it also works out ok and is more doable short term. Taking none of it with a more sensible country to deal with also works out — probably the best scenario, but the odds of getting that are, fantastically, not as high as the other two options. This last statement should be the issue that gives Canadians pause for thought.
We don’t lose with any of these scenarios though.
We will not sit by, however, and watch our norther border threatened by a flailing country that sells itself to our enemies. That we can no longer abide by, and we won’t.
You’re a textbook example of an empowered thug who tries to sell its thuggery as virtue and aims well above its means. Any military invasion of Canada would rip both countries apart. And even if you managed to do it without turning your country into a police state in the process, you’d end up with a massive majority minority blue state, and permanent blue majority in both house and senate. Oh and you’d also get Quebec. You have no idea how much you’re trying to bite in your arrogance. And how unnecessary, tedious, costly and pointless the whole hypothetical adventure would be.
What is happening in US truly is a peasant revolution in the worst connotation of the term. And I get it, you’ve been betrayed by your elites who shat on everything that you cherished. And then have been sold a promise of grandeur if only you agree to throw the baby out with bathwater. The biggest losers among you were betrayed the most and the most hungry and angry they are. You’re Maoist/Jacobin in your zeal.
And you stood so much to gain from it… I truly pity you.
Yes. Don’t mess with the highly intellectual plagiarist interim unelected globalist post-nationalist Canada PM. He’s “fierce” … like a lesbian sneering at a man.
My President isn’t playing by the rules that many in the West have come to take as “what we are”, both in business and in politics. Once you realize that, it starts to make more sense. You may not like it; in fact, I don’t believe you will like it, but it will make sense.
It makes sense if you realize that it’s all a distraction. Trump’s deportations and the DOGE execution make him brilliant as a politician. He’s going to go down in history as the President who turned things around (for the US) and unleashed their economy. Backwater countries like Canada will founder and sink.
True. Trump published it all in “The Art of the Deal” but his political opponents just don’t get it at take him literally instead of staying focused on the key items they want in the negotiations. Which is why academics and “intellectuals” like Turdeau and Carney have done so poorly with him.
Thanks to Trudeau having to get his arse out and shut down the HOC we end up with a person “elected” by Liberals with no political experience to deal with a bullying Buffoon as US President even for the short term. This will give the Buffoon a chance to interfere with our election by ceding some of his insanity to make the chosen one look like a good choice…….he has already said he prefers to deal with Carney who happens to be the worst choice for Canada.
If those who have a reasonably well functioning brain are paying attention, listening to Carney bungling along, should NOT elect him at this most crucial time in our history with the US.
The NDP are a disgrace, they kept the Liberals in power to save their own seats, complained about the Liberals then danced with them.
We have one Party to vote for to get rid of the rot, if you don’t know that you have no respect for this country.
It’s very concerning, God Help us!
You believe what Trump says going into a negotiation? Have you not been paying attention to how he gets results?
TDS is rampant on this thread …. I’m outa here
Don’t let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya, … but on your way out riddle me this: can you provide examples of Trump’s decisions that you disagree with?
May I offer some reading material for the Orangemanbad TDS’ers here? It is preschool reading material … but I don’t think that’s TOO advanced for you …
https://youtu.be/abi0nB3FshY?si=bVtkoJn8tqDWhh96
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/979/400/031.jpg
AL
Have sympathy for Jessica the mental case!
He/ she/they/him/ her is a prime example for the need of a scaled vote.
So like I was saying, Trump keeps boosting support for Carney by manipulating the Molson commercial demographic.
Je suis canadien.
Dual citizens should be barred from federal office entirely.
– Matt Walsh
Dual citizenship should be by birth alone and and should end with the first passport you acquire after you turn 18. If, as a Canadian citizen, you acquire a foreign passport it should be presumed you rejected your Canadian citizenship.
Listen to what Trump says. He doesn’t give a shit about Canada. If there is a trade war it will hurt Canada way more than the US.
Carney thinks he going to get the house and the car.. Because we have elbows :).. IMO Trump made it personal.. How he plans on Looking into Carney’s business dealings.. A little RICO, where the process is the punishment..
The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act has green written all over it.. Obvious like Like Epstein’s island :).. Wanna play hardball?.. The answer to that was, no..
We will be part of the USA sooner than later, get over it.
Actually we are already a USA protectorate, so independent nation is an illusion, nothing more!
Well, gym… it doesn’t feel like we are a part of the US. I’m still paying more than half of my earnings in taxes.
Seems like we have the worst of both worlds.
Y’all had a chance of helping Trump help you to make Canada a more conservative nation.
Instead, you’ve fallen for the liberal “he’s attacking all of Canada!” cheerleading.
You coulda been a contender . . . .
The US tarrifs are only SLIGHTLY worse than the Canadian interprovincial tarrifs(according to former BC Premier Gordon Campbell)
Bullcrap! Ran multiple businesses over the years. Bought $millions from Quebec and Ontario and recall not a single impediment. Bought a lot from the US and the major impediment was paying $50 brokerage to collect $20 GST which I got back in the end.
This seems to me to be an offset, a neutralizer. If you hate Trump, Carney moves back to neutral. If you like Trump then you like that Poilievre was aligned with Trump before Carney saw daylight. This takes Trump out of the Canadian election.
If you’re Canadian and you think Carney isn’t interested in dismantling the oil & gas industry and that he doesn’t secretly hate Trump then my friend Kenji has a bridge to sell and I have a 10% commission coming.
WTF did Poilievre ever say that was Trumpish?
Libtards say he is Trumpish, Trumptards say he is Librano light. He is neither.
Rumour has it that Carney offered to roll over after the election if Trump laid off of him. That’s why Trump played nice to him.
My thought is, if Carney reneges after the election then Trump goes back to plan A, hard.
“The Prime Minister informed the President that his government will implement retaliatory tariffs to protect Canadian workers and our economy, following the announcement of additional U.S. trade actions on April 2, 2025.”
And Trump laughed so hard that he fell out of his chair. A trade war with the United States would slightly inconvenience them and utterly DEVASTATE us, and Donald Trump knows it. Mark Carney knows it too, but he thinks he can bluff his way out of this. Good luck with that. Get out the knee pads, Mark…you’re going to need them.
Here’s the thing though.. Trump has no actual interest in ‘DEVASTATING’ our northern neighbors. he just want’s to talk to a rational adult. Trump already got the first thing he wanted, which was for little Castro Jr. to resign in disgrace. Trump loathed the duplicitous, backstabbing, conniving little weasel, and I don’t blame him. This whole Trudeau/Ford/Carny kerfuffle appears to be a distraction from that, and a cynical attempt to gin up a little nationalism for better polling odds in Trudeau’s ‘post-national state’. They are playing with fire in that regard, as Carny is starting to push it too far.. Remember, no one does ridiculous ‘over-the-top’ nationalism, and whips themselves into a patriotic frenzy when they perceive they are being threatened quite like Americans. Trump ignored Canada’s phone calls, since the ‘resolution’ of Ford’s little meltdown disaster, so Carny sh!t on the rug, then lit the curtains on fire to get Trump’s attention, and Trump answered the phone.. nothing more.. Carney would be wise to allow the media to spin it up for him as a win, and keep his mouth shut until general.. Trump won’t tolerate Carney’s rhetoric too much longer before forcing Carney’s hand.. then Trump will get ugly.
“Carney would be wise to allow the media to spin it up for him as a win, and keep his mouth shut until general.. Trump won’t tolerate Carney’s rhetoric too much longer before forcing Carney’s hand.. then Trump will get ugly.”
Well said, Joe. Carney will fare no better than Ford did.
I posted earlier today but the post for whatever reason didn’t make it past the censor so I’m going to try again.
What we have here is a “Divide and Conquer” procedure which forever forward will be termed the Trump Gambit.
Carney has arrived on the scene to save Canada. The last leader of the Liberals could only describe his post-national constituents as, “We’re not Americans!” The latest edition of a Liberal leader has a little more gravitas and understanding of what a Canadian is, after all he knows that every Canadian knows who Mr. Dress-up is, and every Canadian knows how to defend against a two on one, and that is really all that is required. Although perhaps this new leader does know that budgets do NOT balance themselves, that kernel of truth may be his one saving grace, then again he may have picked that up from someone else. He is going to save and unite Canada from the boogey man under the 49th.
He is going to solve the constant and continual Quebec separation issue and force Quebec to accept an west-east pipeline and at the same time reject the equalization payments from Alberta, and rescind the egg and dairy tariffs.
He is going to get the Atlantic fisheries industry back with a vengeance by building a navy to enforce our territorial waters and keep the Chinese and North Korean raiders out of our fishing grounds.
In Ontario he’ll implement a meritocracy and clean out the deadwood in our industrial, educational, and bureaucratic work-places, and fix the border by reducing the amount of illegal goods coming from America.
Manitoba and BC are immaterial since Manitoba is too inconsequential to worry about and BC is to concerned about going green and getting the lint out of its navel.
Alberta will only be too happy when the pipelines are completed and they get out from under the equalization payments.
Saskatchewan will also be happy with the elimination of the equalization payments and the Chinese imposed tariffs on canola, potash and other products.
We’ll all be one big happy family under the new leader, or NOT! The NOT is where the Trump Gambit comes in, because there is NOT a snowballs chance in Hades that any of the above can happen and deep down inside every Canadian knows that. Trump will complete the Monroe Doctrine first by convincing Greenland to become an American protectorate by promising to build a naval base in Greenland thus ensuring the protection of the North-West Passage. I would imagine the citizens of Greenland would welcome the monthly paychecks of twenty to thirty thousand American service personnel coming in every month. Next Alberta and Saskatchewan with an open market for oil, gas, Potash, Uranium. BC would quickly follow since it would be isolated. The Atlantic provinces would follow quickly after Greenland since Halifax and Newfoundland would be an automatic link in securing the total Eastern seaboard of North America. After that Ontario and Quebec would follow in short order.
This is so transparently obvious that it beggars belief.
Trump is very particular about what, exactly, he wants from Canada, and I don’t think the ‘unraveling’ of Canada is it. Trump talked a lot about annexation, but I assumed it was to troll and humiliate Trudeau, and make his last days as miserable as possible. To be fair, it was worth it just to see little Castro go running off to Charles to whine about being the brunt of a meme. That being said, as Trump sees it, I suspect, Alberta is practically the 51st state already, in many ways, and the people there seem to have more in common with the American mid-west then they do with Ontario, or.. pretty much anywhere in Quebec, so it is possible he might welcome them should they seek to join us. I suppose Saskatchewan isn’t far behind, but I don’t really know enough about them. Asking either of them to leave one union and join another is much bigger than a silly meme though. That would take a difficult act of congress, and there would be a lot of bad blood across the remnants of Canada, the UK and the EU for doing so, and would almost certainly trigger a much larger political schism locally.. The ‘balkanization’ of Canada.. (Not Quebec’s incessant sh!t-talking rhetoric, but the real deal) Let that soak in for a second, and think about what it actually means. This likely would be a dangerous thing, certainly not to be taken lightly. Who the hell knows what the ramifications of such an event might be? I don’t know if he would actually pursue such a course, and the blow-back would definitely be difficult to calculate. (Would this open a path for further Chinese intrusion in North America? How hostile would a fragmented Canada be? If their economies collapsed, would their people swarm the border? Could we actually fix what we broke? ) For now, I will continue to see his overtures and bluster as a tactic that makes him unpredictable, but I don’t know if he has the political will to act on any of it.
Trump has only opened the door to things that might come to pass. I don’t think he has any intention of forming a United North America within his tenure. Having said that it is within the realm of possibility that he has started a re-thinking that runs counter to the globalization that is endemic in Europe. His with-drawl from the Green Deal and the WHO is emblematic of American independence, something that is an anathema to the Democrats, Liberals, and other socialist adherents.