Can the Elites Allow Canadians To Defend Themselves?

A rural couple in Eastern Ontario went through a traumatic episode of 3 people trying to break into their home. Naturally, the couple defended themselves. Two of the home invaders are now dead. One got away.

In any sane, just country, an investigation would be done and the couple would be left to live the rest of their lives in peace. But in Canuckistan, the elites don’t like this sort of thing (unless it happens to them), so these folks may see their lives turned upside down. For the couple’s sake, let’s hope the dead men are not members of a protected minority.

h/t Jamie MacMaster

51 Replies to “Can the Elites Allow Canadians To Defend Themselves?”

  1. Can the government stop Canadians from defending themselves?

    For the record, I’m assuming that the people who defended themselves are the protected minority, otherwise they wouldn’t have been released.

    1. The government can’t prevent people from trying to defend themselves but they can, and frequently do, charge people who do so sod. The right to self defence is a natural right (i.e., not something granted by government fiat) and is actually by courts of law.

      The argument , often made by Crown prosecutors, however is that in killing the home invaders the residents used excessive force. I say anyone breaking into my home is, by their break and enter, a demonstrated existential threat to me and mine and they will suffer the consequences.

      1. Yeah, excessive force. So how is a weak old timer like me expected to defend himself against three strapping young men who invade my home with intent to cause harm to me? Using a firearm against them is in no way a use of excessive force, yet the lawmakers and activists like to say it is.

        They always say don’t try to fight them yourself, call the police, they’re better equipped to handle the situation. Right, so as I dial 911 I should ask them if they’d like a coffee while waiting for the cops to arrive in 15 minutes or so?

    2. *
      Remember Toronto cops advising folks to leave key fobs out for home invaders?

      “‘To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door,’ Const. Marco Ricciardi said at the meeting. ‘Because they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They don’t want anything else.'”

      It’s just part and parcel of living in Justin Trudeau’s ‘post national’ state…

      “Trudeau says using a gun for self-defence is ‘not a right that you have’ in Canada.”

      Sorry, Justine… ‘making good people helpless doesn’t make bad people harmless.’

      *

      1. As a reminder, you also don’t have a right to be accosted in your workshop well outside of Toronto, by the Toronto Police Service.

    3. “Police said there is no threat to public safety as the incident “is believe to be targeted” but do note that residents in the area should expect to see a large police presence for the investigation.”

      They are just giving the perp or his fiends an opportunity to finish the job, as the Police seized the firearm used.

    4. It becomes difficult when you have to fight the police and the rest of the so called law in the damn country. Kill anyone who tries to kill you, period, and if the system tries to kill you…..

  2. I fear for those folks. I hope they come out of it without a charge of 1st degree murder. Down south of your border, vigilante-ism is on the rise. Shoot, shovel and shut up. In my part of the world, most farmers and ranchers have long reach back-hoes. ‘Nuff said.

  3. The same type of incident happened on the Prairies about 30 years ago, but on a Rez. Three thugs home invaded and two were shot immediately by the home owner. The third fled and the home owner went outside and shot him as he was fleeing,killing all three home invaders.
    The H/O’s defence for shooting the guy outside was that he would have returned later to finish the job anyway.The Judge, to my astonishment, accepted the defence and it was ruled self defence.
    Can’t find a link to the article, but it was in either Manitoba or Saskatchewan where this rare case of judicial common sense occurred.
    We should not have to flee our homes out the back door when a criminal breaks in the front door,as Liberal Justice Minister Allan Rock once stated.

    Best wishes to the couple in Ontario.If someone starts a fund for their defence,I will happily contribute.

    1. I recall that pompous prick saying that Canadians didn’t have the right to defend their lives with guns. We all know that the real reason behind disarming the public is that they would much rather that the citizens (serfs) fear the state (tyranny) than the state fear the citizens (liberty).

      1. “I recall that pompous prick saying that Canadians didn’t have the right to defend their lives with guns.”

        Me too. That’s when I decided that all Liberals were elitist scum.

  4. “unless it happens to” the guys that ride and feed me
    If you’re attorney general Michael Bryant you can go out to dinner admit to drinking wine and then drive your expensive convertible up on a sidewalk to kill a cyclist all without getting so much as a breathalyzer.

    1. I’m no fan of Michael Bryant, but the bicyclist in question was an unhinged street maniac who leapt off his bike into the convertible. Bryant’s subsequent erratic driving on the sidewalk was attributable to that. As I recall it, a special prosecutor from another province was brought in to handle the case. Even an attorney general has the right of self defence.

      The failure by police to administer a breathalyser is another question, as was his failure to remain at the scene.

      1. The cyclist, well probably an “unhinged street maniac” as you say, was on the street because the Let-the-maniacs-live-on-the-street party of which Bryant controlled the laws sent them all there.
        The cyclist was holding on to the car while on his bike and Michael Bryant crushed him between his car and poles on the sidewalk instead of braking.

      2. There were videos that allegedly show that Bryant nudged Sheppard, provoking the encounter that resulted in Sheppard’s death.

        What was never answered was why he never got the breathalyser or blood test, the rumors about being a high functioning alky, and why he got preferential treatment.

        1. *
          “….why he never got the breathalyser or blood test…”

          Former Attorney General of Ontario… you really have to wonder?

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      1. Doesn’t mean the Crown Attorney won’t come back a little later and charge one of them, after getting a stern talking to from someone further up the food chain. I hope common sense prevails.

      2. Firearm was seized. Getting it back, as well as recovering his licence, will be a hoop jumping nightmare exercise in red tape.

        1. Hope they have a spare gun or two in the home to protect themselves with for the next 2 years or so while the legality of the defensive weapon is investigated.

          I recall that police broke into houses in that evacuated Alberta town a few years ago and seized all the legally stored firearms, and then wouldn’t return them to the rightful owners.

  5. Can the elites allow Canadians to defend themselves?

    Short answer, no. Not a chance.

    Longer answer, no, since Canadians will inevitably end up defending themselves from the elites. You will eat the bugs, you will own nothing, and you will -like- it. Or at least put up a convincing pretense of liking it, otherwise no bugs for you.

  6. Canada firearms storage dictates gun must have (at least) trigger lock and/or in locked cabinet, with ammunition also locked away but in different location from firearm. So by design no victim can retrieve gun & ammo in time to defend oneself (legally). If you claim “ incidentally cleaning shotgun at the time” the Crown will throw the book at you as an example. Penalties for unlawful storage (paper offences) are up to 5 years prison + fines + aggravating factors: So in this case expect certain jail time, excepting the right (Left) political connections.

    1. It states ” Store the ammunition separately or lock it up. It can be stored in the same locked container as the firearms. ” So yes it can be stored in your gun safe with the gun.

  7. Anonymous jornolithp (likely the cops themselves) intentionally infer only criminal activity, except in the fourth sentence, and request “help” in locating the perp who got away.

  8. The occupants defended themselves as opposed to bleeding to death waiting for the police to arrive. Egad! Throw the book at them. The government hates competition.

  9. L- Under Common-Law, our heritage from Britain, the Right of self defence is an auxiliary
    Right derived from the foundational Right to Life. Natural Rights are inalienable because
    they predate government and are inherent. We are born with them, as they are gifts from
    God. They are individual. This is why the preamble of the Charter of Rights and Freedom recognizes the supremacy of God. Human are made in the image of God, that life is sacred.

    As the utopians tendency to view themselves as gods(narcissism to the Nth degree) they fell
    In modern times under the spell of the Cult. Marxism variant. Marx’s target, standing guard
    in the way of his version of utopia, was Christianity. When the Supremes began to ban Christianity from the public square, from the culture, school and legislation. The theory of
    Natural Rights in law schools was discarded, as has been e.I. The Rights to Life, Property and
    Free Speech. This is how the nickname The Supremes began to rise into a meme. They’ve
    redefined Rights designed to protect individuals from arbitrary and capricious government
    into privileges granted by government, which they can amend or violate at will.

    Previous generation understood this. It was part of education formally and culturally. Now
    our heritage is relegated to museum status. Elon Musk via X is restoring Freedom of Speech
    to Western Civilization so it may not perish from the earth but undergo a revival. This is why
    he is so feared and hated by tyrannical governments.

    If you believe in the Rights to Life, Liberty and Property. Shoulder the responsibility for defending them.

    To be continued…

    To be continued

  10. I doubt citizens can vote their way out of this mess at the ballot box, and think the best I could offer is when chosen to sit as jury duty, to vote consistently for “not guilty” in the jury room, and not waver from that when asked to state my vote in court.

    I think Michael Bryant was innocent as well. Not because I drove the same car as him, which was not an “expensive convertible”, but was kinda sweet anyways. Sheppard who ended up dead, was seen in multiple road incidents in the previous 30 minutes and was clearly looking for it, FOFO may apply, & don’t bring a bike to a car fight.

  11. It’s ironic that a country that prides its system of government as one that saw its foundation on Magna Charta won’t enshrine self defence in law.
    After all the whole basis of that charter was that if the state could not see to its responsibility (for which they were being taxed) then the people were allowed to take care of their own welfarecthemselves and didn’t need the state.

  12. Robert: Just wondering where you got the word “Canuckistan” from? 🙂

    Gad, how I hate this “country.”

  13. It’s another Ann Coulter moment!

    The po-po havent released the ID of the perps so you know they anit white!

    1. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if they were white. This sounds like a drug rip, or a collection attempt, or a settling of accounts for squealing. Wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there was Montreal connections.

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