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The Naked Emperor- Former CDC Director Admits Significant Side Effects From Covid Vaccines
Redfield told Cuomo that we need to be honest and admit that some people got significant side effects from the vaccine. He even said that he knows a number of people that are quite ill from the vaccine, even though they never had Covid.
It would have been great to hear Cuomo and Redfield saying these things when we were all being pressured into getting the jab a few years ago. When people were losing their jobs or being socially ostracised. It’s great that the gaslighting has stopped and the truth is dripping out, and it’s great that these guys are talking about the vaccine, but the brave and honourable thing would have been to stand up and be counted two or three years ago.

From The Daily Mail link:
This is poor reporting. The side effect was discovered in 2021, and went on their warning labels in the same year. It’s nothing new.
https://recalls-rappels.canada.ca/en/alert-recall/health-canada-updating-labels-janssen-and-vaxzevria-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccines
“admitted in documents lodged with the High Court”
That’s what’s new.
The Daily Mail makes it sound like a major revelation. Given that it’s been on their warning labels for a couple years, it’s like getting Kermit to admit to the court he’s green.
It’s in court. That’s the point.
The Daily Mail is trying to make is seem like this is some novel admission. Certainly the casual reader will read it that way.
Daily mail tends to exaggerate. Clickbait. Barely a step above the national enquirer.
In other news, bat boy found in Florida cave marries transsexual midget who killed his mother.
“While credited with saving more that….bla bla”. Yeah sure. The stuff is crap.
You know what’s funny? One of the many decisions I’ve made in my life that I didn’t sweat over for one second. Didn’t get it and I never will.
Same here. My wife too. We had (and have) this default position that if a politician tells you something is urgent, it’s quite probably a lie. And that skepticism was endorsed in June when the frail and elderly father of my wife’s co-worker died. “They’re saying my dad died of covid. He didn’t die from covid. That’s a lie.”
The big, big problem is determining what is truly a vaccine injury. Just because something happened after vaccination doesn’t mean it was caused by it. Given the hundreds of millions of shots administered, coincidences must happen.
And yet compensation for vaccines injuries seems worthwhile. So how do we do that in practice? How we avoid post hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacies?
killer unDORK
Yah butt, yah butt , yah butt, this BS sure qualifies you for dumbest azzhole on here.
All these pharmaceutical companies fukked up and they know it, and all you try to do is obfuscate for them.
Now STFU,
He’s ok so everyone else can get f’ed.
Is there some reason why you haven’t been banned from this site when you so blatantly violate the rules? Do you have photographs or something?
https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2024/02/13/blog-notes-51/
He should be allowed to insult you. You deserve it.
He’s not just insulting me. Given his opinion is worthless, it means nothing. But he’s disrespecting the blog owner.
Just the fact you are hear spewing your garbage is a credit to how the blog owner allows free speech even by the lowest if the low. I you lower than Joe from Alberta
Wanna know what I find it most astonishing about this “controversy”?
The remarkable reaction of anti-vaxxers to opinions they don’t want to hear. Rarely do they respond with logic or evidence, which is what you would think someone who has sound arguments on their side would do. Rather, it’s almost all insults and (attempted) bullying.
Look at my original post. Just how one differentiates between true vaccine injuries and mere coincidences is a huge and vital issue. Yet not one person here choose to engage that question.
You’re rich, project much? Clearly, YOU are the one that is allergic to any contrary opinions. Keep burying your head in the sand and please, get your 7th, 8th, 9th or whatever version of the shot you are begging to get next.
If you are waiting for your official government admission to have permission to admit that the shots are dangerous and have killed thousands of people, and maiming/injuring many, many more than that, it will be a cold day in hell.
You would make a fine, fine, obedient 1940s German!
You seem to be the one marching in lockstep with all your buddies on this site.
Marching in lockstep? Isn’t that awful, well, foot-stompy? Now I hope you won’t go full foot-stomping on us, Killer, that never works out, does it?
Refusing to take mRNA therapy is not being an anti-vaxxer.
Funny, all the nations in Africa and the eastern hemisphere that couldn’t afford the jab fared better than the nations who spent billions.
More people have died from the reaction to COVID than the disease ever killed.
KM clearly suffers from cranio-rectal syndrome.
The top story is was about AstraZeneca, which is not an mRNA vaccine. I may have cranio-rectal syndrome, but I know the science.
And if you haven’t noticed, opposition to the COVID vaccines have metastasized into skepticism over all vaccines on the internet. More people are now refusing MMR vaccines for their kids. And the hoary old myth of vaccines causing autism has even risen from the dead.
Agreed. KM is complicit in the deaths from the jabs. Saved millions is such a ridiculous faked figure from incredibly bad biased studies. If he applied to the studies on how many lives were saved the same standard he applies to the studies that show the harms of the jab he would have to crawl under a rock and hide in shame.
However even then, the real crime of those jabs is how we were lied to, tricked and coerced into the jab. We were poisoned on purpose by our own government and health care system
You must have better studies then, one’s that are not bad and biased. How else could you draw conclusions about the vaccine? And what are those studies?
Any study I quote you immediately dismiss as a poor biased one not to be believed. I am just doing the same to the garbage crap you quote about the millions supposedly saved by the poison depopulation device.
And how about your opinion on the lack of informed consent and coercion. Have you ever spoken against that? Let’s hear that. Are you in favour of the no jab no job, choices have consequences policy in Canada?
No. I don’t choose to engage on that. It’s not my speciality. And we both know why you bring it up here — to divert away from the points I do bring about.
Probably. Depends on the quality of the paper. That’s the nature of debate.
I have the guts to back up my claims with cited papers and other evidence. What’s your problem?
So you refuse to engage in a discussion about informed consent and coercion. Why? To me that’s far more important than any study on “vaccine” injury or lives saved by the “vaccine.” To me it’s THE single most central issue. Why won’t you engage in that?
Because I don’t feel like it. I prefer to keep to the medical side of things. Go find someone who wants to debate you on that. I don’t take orders from you.
Funny you bring up debate. I recall how any opinion not in lockstep with Big Pharma was censored and banned. There was no debate. Only gaslighting and coercion.
“The remarkable reaction of anti-vaxxers to opinions they don’t want to hear”
Didn’t take you longer to break out the tired old “anti-vaxxer” tactic, I see.
Almost all of us here, I’m sure, have had all our childhood vaccinations. Some probably get regular flu shots, and I myself get a tetanus shot every decade or so. Why? Because these are all PROVEN vaccines, unlike the mRNA jab that not only didn’t stop contraction or transmission of the virus, but also wasn’t even needed by the vast majority of people: a 99.7% survival rate made that quite clear.
You’ve never even met a true ‘anti-vaxxer’, have you?
a 99.7% survival rate made that quite clear.
Wow, that sounds low. But in the U.S. that means 1 million deaths. In actual fact, 1.2 million died from COVID.
Further, COVID can do lasting damage even if it doesn’t kill you. There’s a lot of walking wounded out there.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351
the mRNA jab that not only didn’t stop contraction or transmission of the virus
Incorrect. It was at times up to 95% effective at preventing contraction of the disease. I say “at times” because it’s effectiveness waned with time after the shot, and because new strains of COVID kept arising that made older versions of the vaccine less effective.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2117128
KM: “I have the guts to back up my claims …”
then…”So you refuse to engage in a discussion about informed consent and coercion. Why?”
Also KM: “Because I don’t feel like it. I prefer to keep to the medical side of things. Go find someone who wants to debate you on that. I don’t take orders from you.”
Gutless libtard.
Marmots hide in rock piles, so your comment is apt. So is your other comment about the garbage it spews. Thanks for covering that, Mr. Burch.
Have a nice day.
“It’s great that the gaslighting has stopped and the truth is dripping out,..” Some people are still at it.
And I see anti-vaxxers complicit in the death of those who didn’t get the vaccine and then died from COVID. But this is the first time I’ve brought it up as it’s not generally constructive to say that.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status
Ourworldindata is funded by the Gates Foundation.
You are a bald-faced liar, just like your heroes at Pfizer.
YeahWell:
That chart seems to make you uncomfortable. But countless studies backed up the conclusion that failing to get vaccinated left one far more vulnerable to COVID death.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2117128
Free Will Marmot.
Nice try……
You should know better.
Free means as an individual you where free to make your choice and live or die by it.
And I would argue many that didn’t get the shot where better informed than many that did.
Science as you still see it makes a thin shield these days.
Fine. But the anti-vaxxers do more than that. They actively try to convince everyone else to not get vaccinated.
Not in my experience. They generally hold beliefs that don’t stand up to even modest scrutiny. Some anti-vaxxers have ideas that are completely nuts (e.g., virus can’t cause disease).
What about the coercion to get the vax, you know what you refuse to engage about. if people died after fully informed consent then it was a free choice. None of us were given a free informed choice.
Justin Burch:
Informing people based on the best available science is a worthy cause, and there are many sites that do that.
https://www.healthline.com/health/is-the-coronavirus-vaccine-safe
The anti-vaxx crowd don’t have much respect for the best available science.
When you are told get the jab or lose your job that is coercion. Coercion and free informed consent cannot breath in the same room. Which is why you refuse to engage in it. The jab did not stop transmission and presented a much higher risk to most people than COVID did but no one was free to choose. No jab no job. Coercion plain and simple. Unethical, plain and simple. No amount of linking to government websites can overcome the way they coerced us, ever.
We know how it works because we saw it in action. Get a jab, get sick. If it happened days 1-14 (1-21 in BC and Sask) after the jab then it was COVID in an unvaccinated by definition. If anything happened more than 28 days after the second jab then it was defined as unrelated. If course it’s hard to tell if it was vaccine related given that definition system.
Clearly, at the time, and especially now, injuries and deaths within 14 days of the jab, WERE FROM THE JAB. In decades previously, where trials were being held, such strong signals post-jab would have halted the trials immediately.
Instead, our officials lied, people died.
I’ve got the screen caps from the official BC GOV CDC Covid data, the site of which has been conveniently deleted. The BC Gov published the data, until July of 2022, when the data was clearly showing that KM’s magic jabs DID NOT WORK.
By June of 22, 75% of the deaths were BOOSTED (3 poison jabs), 15% with 2 poison jabs, 1.4% 1 jab, and only 9% unjabbed.
95% of deaths were 70+ years.
No wonder the BC government erased the data from public viewing. And of course, the media, getting paid off handsomely, can’t read, write or say anything that isn’t approved by the propaganda overseers.
KM is a government TROLL. Kate, you should investigate this monster’s IP address(es), no doubt it will show what we all suspect, just another PMO disinformation troll.
KM also refuses to engage on that point too.
I confess. Kate pays me to post here to drive traffic.
More seriously, do you listen to yourself? This is your reaction because someone doesn’t share your views.
We refuse to engage in your selective gas lighting. Listen to yourself. You ignore things like the days 1-14 rule (1-21 in Sask and BC) and the coercion and yet claim you quote the science and want to debate.
And you refuse to address my original question…
For purposes of compensation, how do we differentiate between true vaccine injuries and ailments that simply occurred after vaccination (which statistically must happen)?
So it looks like we both refuse to be ordered about it.
We start by removing the days 1-14 (1-21 in BC and Sask) where any reaction in that time period is declared to be COVID in the unvaccinated. We also remove the 28 days after the jab limit on when something can be declared related. Then when these ridiculous, designed to hide the injury, rules applied in Canada are removed then we can start talking about how to actually distinguish injuries from coincidence. Let me hear you condemn those rules for the preposterous nonsense they are first. You claim to understand how studies work. Prove it. Tell me how those two definitions cause bias.
The stuff is crap. Absolute garbage.
Not a “big problem” at all. Have independent randomized control studies done using genuine placebos.
Not done. Indeed, avoided. That says it all.
Meanwhile the ample satisfaction of Bradford-Hill criteria justify acting on inferences of causation.
The continuing trend of excess deaths long after the roll-out of the experimental jabs, should be an obvious indicator of problems related to the mass medical intervention that occurred. And nevermind all the “studies” you claim support your contention – all of these publications revealed themselves in one way or another as being influenced by, or censoring on behalf of, government, pharma, compromised ngo’s or health agencies. You don’t seem to realize, or accept, that all of the above destroyed their credibility and trust. I actually don’t know how they’ll ever recover that, such was the damage done. It’s like still having a naive faith in the UN or accepting the IPCC’s words on “climate change”.
Here’s a thought experiment for you though: knowing everything that we do now, as it has trickled out, would you get jabbed again? It’s one thing coming here to continuously boast of its dubious safety and effectiveness, and deny its harms, than to say you would line up again for it all over again.
There’s explanations for the persistent excess deaths (which have pretty much disappeared now) other than the vaccines.
First is that the pandemic hasn’t gone completely away. People are still getting COVID and some are dying from it, although at a much lesser rate. Second, COVID did lasting damage to many people’s organs — heart, lungs, liver, kidneys, brains, and so on — and this inevitably adds to excess deaths even after the pandemic has died down. And third, a commonly used estimate of expected deaths uses the average of number deaths from 2015 to 2019. Such an estimate does not compensate for a growing and aging population, resulting in inflated figures for excess deaths.
And yes, I would get vaccinated again if a dangerous wave of COVID arose again. I see no convincing evidence that the vaccines were inordinately dangerous, and considerable scientific evidence they were acceptably safe.
If the test to prove COVID has a 56% positive false rate and anything days 1-14 (1-21 in Sask and BC) is classified as COVID in the unvaccinated and anything more than 28 days after the jab is classified as unrelated, how would those definitions affect the ability to determine what is a virus caused disease and what is a vax caused disease? Come on Mr. Expert on studies. Explain that to me.
“compensation for vaccines injuries seems worthwhile”
Stick it to the taxpayer?
In other words naturally immune would be expected to subsidize the harmaceutical corporations.
Any Canadian who watched that fking stupid,vapid,wacko Justin Trudeau on the telly night and day screeching about everybody getting the JibberJab should have been the greatest warning sign NOT to get the Jab,and I acted accordingly.
KM at 5:14: “The Daily Mail is trying to make is seem like this is some novel admission. Certainly the casual reader will read it that way.”
Yeah. That’s the trouble with the press. They’ve been known to mislead people, eh?
That’s why I prefer to cite research papers.
While preferring to ignore ethics like informed consent or addressing the days 1-14 rules. (1-21 in Sask and BC.)
I do not address non-medical questions because I choose not it. Live with it. You seem to resent my opinions on other things, so you should be happy. Go pick a fight elsewhere,
Research papers bought and paid for by crooked Big Pharma.
Really? Because there were hundreds of papers worldwide assessing the vaccines, and almost all found the vaccines acceptably safe and effective. Even Big Pharma doesn’t have the money and pull to carry that off.
At any rate, you must have a better source of research. What is that, exactly?
It’s easy to find something safe when anything days 1-14 (1-12 in BC and Sask) is classified as COVID in the unvaccinated and anything 28 days past the last jab is declared unrelated.
“Yeah. That’s the trouble with the press. They’ve been known to mislead people, eh?
That’s why I prefer to cite research papers.”
Who have also been known to mislead people…
(and for the same reason as the press: for money).
And what is your source of information, then?
My source for information on the days 1-14 being COVID in the unvaccinated (1-21 in Sask and BC) as well as anything 28 days out past the last jab being unrelated comes directly from the government. Their rules not mine. The 56% false positive rate for the COVID nasal swab PCR test also comes directly from the testimony of government experts under cross examination, in publically available court documents from legal actions.
So tell me Mr. Self Proclaimed Expert on distinguishing which is a good study and which is not, how do those definitions affect bias potential?
“Mr. Self Proclaimed Expert”
Screw you, Burch. Don’t respond to any of my posts again.
Oh, please reply to them all, Justin! We could provoke a proper Marmot hissy! I’ll make popcorn.
Does anyone have screen grabs of the government graphs they were publishing just before they quit publishing? You know,the graphs that show the vaxxed RATE OF deaths, hospitalizations, and cases, were SURPASSING the non vaxxed? Gee. I wonder why they quit publishing them.
In Manitoba we got one day, one single day around Christmas time where the deaths in vaxxed exceeded the deaths in the unvaxxed and then the government announced they weren’t telling us anymore because they didn’t want to give ‘antivaxxers’ any ammunition. Such complete and total lying scum bag cowards. That one ranks right up there with how the recent winner of the Order of Manitoba, Brent Roussin, announced any doctor who encouraged “vaccine hesitancy” would be reported to their professional licensing board for discipline followed a few days later by a campaign telling us to “ask our doctor” if we were hesitating.
That bald scumbag
The same thing here in Aus. In September 2022, NSW was the only Govt in Aust that reported deaths by jab status ( it isnt a vaccine, only idiots call it a vaccine and compare it to MMR vaccines) stopped reporting when EVERY SINGLE DEATH in hospital were 2,3 and 4 times jabbed and no unjabbed died. Not only that , every person in ICU- jabbed, no unjabbed. Its when the nonsense stopped and the cover ups started.
I’m shocked the varmit was 1st one posting.
Rare says varmit. Hell yea these jabs were voluntary. Not like you have to decide between
feeding your family or getting jabbed.
And all the special rules, cages, built for those who did not get jabbed. Science…Xi style
and f*ckers like the varmit still cheerleading.
Hey varmit, you up to date with all your boosters? Still keeping that 6ft spacing at walmart?
Relative versus Absolute Risk:
https://youtu.be/exo67k_Jlgk?si=fqH1xCmwrkKjyg2U
That was another one the wombat keeps ignoring. They only told us relative risk not absolute risk. hey Mr. Self Proclaimed Expert on distinguishing good studies from bad, why is RR not as good as AR when considering whether or not to get jabbed?
This is how “Shiller” Marmot should be spoken to:
SHUT UP
Do not question our authority, just do as you are told and accept the claims of injury
Do Not Question our Expertise or you will get people killed
Do Not question ANY Claim of Vaccine Injury, as this would be unpatriotic and against “the greater good”
SCREW YOUR Questions (Arnold Voice)
YOU ARE A FRINGE MINORITY WITH DISGUSTING VIEWS, YOU ARE PROBABLY RACIST AND MYSOGYNISTIC (Blackie quote )
Are you catching on? Dr Peter McCollough treat a couple of cases of Myocarditis in his previous practice.
He has 500 cases now.
FILTHY People like you kept me separated from my Mother when she was sick.
A RECKONING is coming….
The mindset of the anti-vaccine crowd is a fascinating one. No science to speak of. Certainly no measured debate. Just a blind commitment to their faith, with a searing hatred of apostates.
By the way, McCullough is an embarrassing fraud who’s the Chief Scientific Officer of The Wellness Company. Their business is selling the most absurd line of snake oil out there. He’s playing you.
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/peter-mccullough-makes-multiple-false-misleading-claims-covid19-vaccine-safety-efficacy-podcast/
I don’t want to wade into much of this, people on both sides entrenched and hunkering down, but Dr. McCullough is not a fraud. He is one of the most published and peer reviewed Docs alive.
“He is one of the most published and peer reviewed Docs alive.”
Not even close, actually. 75,000 citations sounds like a lot, but there are many researchers whose citations are into the many hundreds of thousands, and a few in the millions. And I’ve never been impressed with researchers who get their name on dozens of papers a year. No researcher can substantially contribute to that many papers in that time, so he’s getting his name on papers he didn’t do much on.
But he is accomplished. The trouble is that he’s gone off the rails in his dotage, claiming things that have no support in the medical literature.
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/peter-mccullough-makes-multiple-false-misleading-claims-covid19-vaccine-safety-efficacy-podcast/
Killer Joe, the Marmot from Alberta, is just soooo smart and dreamy.
His avatar should have nicer hair.
What’s wrong with my hair?
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with his hair. Quite decent, by marmot standards anyway. Yes, it tends to cling to the furniture, but that’s what vacuous cleaners are for.
https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/23NO5_OPEN-LETTER-to-Fandja-from-Laderoute-23SE6.pdf
Open Letter on the Safety and Effectiveness of COVID-19 Vaccines
Anything that KM posts or spouts off about – believe otherwise, it can only carry water for LSM and their crowd of fools.
The vax was not even needed and it caused some people to get stinking filthy rich but many others to suffer medical health issues since being jabbed. Some even died, unexpected and swept under the rug. If the vax’s were so good – why the 2 yr long lock down? A shit show from the get go.
I’ll never trust the bastards ever again.
Why mRNA?.. Because it was the only juice they could cook up in the billions.. The business plan they wanted..
Why was it pushed so hard?.. That’s a rabbit hole, seeing as 98% of us didn’t need it..
Covid was a lie and the rodent is stupid.
We told you, but you wouldn’t listen. We even told you that a liability shield was a red flag, and that government vaccine injury compensation programs have never been adequate. That any safety studies done were inadequate or suspect. That you were getting jabbed with an experimental cocktail and nobody knew how it was going to go.
Worse, you condemned US for not getting vaxxed.