When did ISIS stop seeking martyrdom? Whoever was behind the terrorist attack in Russia yesterday, the operation was botched. They were not supposed to be captured
When did ISIS stop seeking martyrdom? Whoever was behind the terrorist attack in Russia yesterday, the operation was botched. They were not supposed to be captured
It is pretty evident that this was a US/UK operation. They warned their people in Russia that something was going to happen. It did. My only question is what is Russia going to do in retaliation. This is more than the dick piano player could have pulled off.
It’s not hard for 4 men to show up with guns and start shooting people.
And carrying cans of gasoline; arsonists do it all the time.
If this is the case…and it’s starting to look like it is…this is very, very bad. Things are going to get ugly and at a time when the western world is governed by complete morons. Guess I better brush up on my Russian.
Molodyets!
Конечно, брат! Вы говорите по-русски?
I don’t, much to certain peoples’ disappointment I guess. I have to use “translate” …
Things are getting ugly because we are ruled by complete morons. Sadly, we are getting what we deserve for allowing them to be in power.
Pretty early for such speculation without clear evidence.
Somebody wants escalation.. Russia’s Muslim population / neighboring countries is at the bottom of that list..
O-brother this war could really get out of control, if this is true.
Let see what happens in the next 72hrs.
Like moths to a flame, Nato sociopaths are waltzing us into WW3. And for what?
SMDH.
The everyday keyboard warmonger will be squealing like a stuck pig when their kids get the notice to report for duty on their Tik Tok apps.
Wait for it.
To trap Trump if he, as President, tries to end the war in Ukraine.
Isn’t there a proverb about poking the Bear??
Well, at this point I’ve narrowed it down to 47 possibles, 22 plausibles, and 0 probables.
But I’ll keep working on it.
I’ll fix that for you CIA
This is likely Islamic Chechen separatists. They hate Russia and are still butt-hurt over the Second Chechen War. The Chechens have a long history of terror in Russia. Given the situation in Ukraine, this is a good opportunity for them to destabilize their region.
@Grey
Maybe yes, maybe no. One thing for certain is that Russia has captured a couple of them and by the time they feed them ice cream & cake and put them up at the best hotel in Moscow they will gratefully spill the beans.
Minus an ear or two?
No doubt they will think they are at Club Med Moscow, just minus a few of the usual condiments and special pampering services they are accustomed too…….
The terrorists from the south of Russian client states as well as further south ISIS folks and Hamas all read from the same books. Some are more devout, some claim to be even more devout than that! Their aims are all the same, and they’ll do what’s necessary for the cause … I think the number was $5k for these folks … perhaps they gave the money to their family’s? How much does $5k buy in Tajikistan?
As to “escaping through Ukraine” … this seems like it’s a story line from a not real successful movie, and we’ve seen parts of this already.
Will the Russians put them on the rack until they sing? Perhaps they’ll televise it for the masses? What will the USA do about that? Cut off the Russian’s ability to use US dollars for trade? I think they’ve already done that, the US is at the point where they’re limited to “stern letters”.
When you’ve taken everything from someone, they’re no longer your slave. They have nothing else to lose.
Related… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege#
Think the Russians have learned a few things from this event and the event at the theatre with nerve gas?
The government? No. They are incapable of learning.
The people of Russia? Yes. They’ve learned that they are sitting ducks. Just like we are. What they do with that knowledge, we shall see. So far, -we- have done nothing but double-down on victim disarmament.
Yes, for the most part I refer to their gov’t.
RFK Jr has been warning us about the Military Industrial Complex. In fact he frequently quotes Eisenhower’s dire warning.
Biden’s puppet masters , and their Blackrock buddies have been itching for this.
My only consolation in thinking about the future is the hope we have in Christ. The Bible prophecies are shaping up right before our eyes.
havent we heard it all before?
is this just crying wolf?
whats the difference in 2024?
its happening on multiple fronts. thats what.
-satanic imagery in pop music esp the concerts.
-transwhatthefcuk? are hoomans the only ones in half billion years of sexual reproduction to switcheroo on a whim?
-the capacity of digital AI to demolish the reliability of evidence ANYWHERE ‘evidence’ is recorded and analysed.
Could be false flag and could be Muslims. Could be like Nord Stream. Could be like the attack in Paris. Remember in 2015, 130 French civilians were killed and more than 350 injured. They do this all the time after all and many hold grudges against Russia. I will wait and see. There’s a reason Biden is not shooting back at Iranian targets but only the proxies. Who knows how many Islamic sleeper cells and groups of crazies exist?
Did you see the stomping horse crushing the Newfie fisherman?
The elite are as desperate as trapped rats and have run out of ideas that don’t involve killing us.
2:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QJotlvB1zg&ab_channel=Thatgrumpyoldguy
Let us not forget Beslan.
The bottom line is that we are being pushed and prodded into a war by America while we are being told that Putin and Trump are the bad guys. Do a little critical thinking here, the Nordstream explosions could only have been carried out by one or two navies in an act of clandestine warfare, and yet Putin did not respond. The American withdrawl from Afghanistan was an in your face CIA manouvre to openly provide the Taliban with the where-with-all to threaten Russia. The CIA interference in the Ukraine election was another in your face ploy by the American military industrial complex. Three examples of clandestine operations that in the past would have been enough to start a war. Anyone remember how WWI and WWII started? The propaganda being spouted in America is thick with hypocrisy, do not be fooled or taken in by it. The reality of the situation is that Trump and Putin maybe the only two leaders in the world that are intelligent enough to prevent another global conflict, and that is what the Democrats are deathly afraid of.
This sounds probable. How do we stop the war makers? We have to demand citizen scrutiny of election processes and we have to speak out when the mainstream press lies or massages the truth. Apathy will kill us.
Trump was okay with both the left and right before he announced he was running and came out and opposed Forever War Inc. Tucker Carlson was fired for the same reason. Nikki Haley suddenly loved by Democrats. “If you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday getting back at you. ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OYyXv2l4-I
“Afghanistan was an in your face CIA manouvre to openly provide the Taliban with the where-with-all to threaten Russia”.
Sure, loony. Russia is so threatened by Taliban that they invited them to the St. Peterburg economic forum (and they did come). This place is a sanctuary, no mistake about it.
NAILED IT Antenor
“..The reality of the situation is that Trump and Putin maybe the only two leaders in the world that are intelligent enough to prevent another global conflict, and that is what the Democrats are deathly afraid of…”
Whether or not it’s true, Russia is blaming Ukraine and vowing revenge.
It’s hard not to assume the attack in Russia has to do with the war in Ukraine, but it could just be opportunists wanting to injure Russia and without leaving an obvious trail to retribution.
It’s also hard to imagine Islamic terrorists will avoid attacking a country simply because it’s busy elsewhere.
The “possibilities” are near endless.
Time will tell.
The “motive” might depend on just who the dead and injured are.
Our dear Leaders,on both sides, do not value human lives very much.
As apparently shooting down a passenger airliner has been done in the past,just to eliminate one man.
So who are these victims?
And who had most reason for them to die?
If the victims are random,who gains from this atrocity?
What the media will not report,may be the explanation..
I wait three weeks at a minimum now.
Then troll the back pages of the search engines.
ISIS released a photo of the 4 terrorists allegedly taken just before they set off on their mission. This photo just confuses things further.
1. Their faces are blurred out, unlike virtually every other jihadist photo/video, where the “martyrs” proudly show their faces.
2. Since when do ISIS “martyrs” not martyrize themselves? Surely they could have slaughtered many more civilians if they stuck around instead of fleeing, and taken at least some of the cops out when they finally showed up. But they wanted to live.
3. There are no “Allahu Akbars” spoken in the videos of the attack, which is strange since Muslim terrorists typically scream that over and over when carrying out an attack. And while being interrogated none of them mention Allah or Islam, but instead claim they did it for the money.
4. They are doing the Shahada (profession of the faith, pointing to the sky) in the pic, except it’s with their left hands. No Muslim would ever do the Shahada with their left hand, it’s strictly Haram.
5. It’s implied that the terrorists are wearing the same clothes in the pic as those they were captured in. Although at first glance this seems correct, and many people online seem to think this is proof that they’re the same guys, upon closer inspection they are clearly wearing different shirts than the ones the terrorists were wearing when captured.
6. ISIS martyrs almost always prerecord videos of themselves pledging allegiance to ISIS, so everybody knows for sure it was them. If such videos exist why hasn’t ISIS released them?
7. Why were the terrorists fleeing towards Ukraine? Russia borders 14 different nations, yet these guys ignored the seemingly easier routes and thought they could escape across the front lines of an active war zone where they would surely be surveilled, captured or killed trying?
The ISIS photo and lots of additional info can be found here:
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo
Insightful points.
Seems obviously Ukraine, with help and coordination.
I doubt Russia will waste any effort retaliating against ISIS. They’ll redouble focus on Odessa, which evidently terrifies the French.
“Seems obviously Ukraine, with help and coordination.”
You might be right, one of the captured terrorists is a Ukrainian citizen and former soldier.
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1771601115592712379
Probably not true:
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1771635744404099236?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
“ISIS released a photo of the 4 terrorists allegedly taken just before they set off on their mission. This photo just confuses things further.”
Good points, jeppo….there are definitely a few things here that just don’t add up. While the usual suspects have shown up in this thread to chortle with glee at the loss of Russian lives, most of us (the grownups) just want some answers that make sense. It could be as simple as retaliation for Russian actions in Syria, or something totally unrelated. We’ll see…
Which “ISIS” released these photos, the Washington, DC, ISIS? BTW I haven’t heard of ISIS doing it for money nor attempting to escape and survive; martyrdom is part of the deal. The Turk who shot the Pope wasn’t ISIS. He did it for money for his familly.
Point 4. It might just be a mirror image. I see videos often on youtube that are mirrored.
No one is immune to it.
Tajiks are obviously the greatest warrior nation on Earth (if you believe the Ruϟϟischeschweinen propaganda, that is). Supposedly, they were hired for 500000 rubbles each. It probably sounds like an awful of money lot to schweinie-lovers, but it’s actually only $5000 or so in real money.
Everything points to another of Pootin’s false flag operations.
They have a long tradition of doing that dating back to manufacturing excuses for their genocidal campaign in Chechnya. But the gullible here, guided by Kremlin influencers. Will pretend to be analysts and come to oh so educated conclusion that it was the evil west and Ukraine. Why would they do that? To what end? Never mind that. And then they will somehow twist this into an excuse for horde to invade and conduct genocide in Ukraine more than two years ago.
Meanwhile, the loses russians suffered in Moscow yesterday (probably from their own hands) have been nothing compared to harm done by russians to Ukrainians every single day since they have attacked.
P.S. Welcome all the new bots from St. Petersburg bot farm.
I say again…
Pretty early speculation without clear evidence.
One thing for certain though, atrocities commuted by russians on Ukrainians every day of the war greatly exceed what happened in Moscow.
Which is why it’s important to keep the war going!
Don’t be surprised to find Erdogan has a hand in this…
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2024/03/moscow-death-toll-over-130-ukraine-denies-involvement-jihadi-says-he-was-recruited-by-muslim-clerics-assistant
ISIS-K … Ha! What happened to ISIS/A-J? The Americans should know, they invented ISIS back in the 1980s. These people were Turks from Turkmanistan and were paid to do this. Who paid them? Was this “Nulands Surprise”?
I’m still willing to beieve this was a Budanov plan with US knowledge but without its support. Watch RT to find out, you won’t see it on CBC which is helpfully explaining why ISIS would target Russia.
” … Watch RT to find out …”
Now THAT is funny as hell!
RT = Real Truth !!!!!
Oh hell!
Here I was, thinking it was Ruski Toutski.
From Gad Saad:
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Now that ISIS has apparently taken credit for the Moscow terror attack, let’s remember:
1) To redouble our efforts to combat Islamophobia;
2) To recognize that ISIS has absolutely nothing to do with Islam; its leader who held a PhD in Islamic Studies completely misunderstood the Noble Faith;
3) To reaffirm that the true culprit is Zionism.
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Or, to paraphrase our very own Simpletons ™:
1) It’s all Russia’s fault
2) They deserved it
3) They do worse things every day, so what’s the problem?
There is no way Ukraine did this! My comment before again vanished!
“There is no way Ukraine did this! ”
I would tend to agree…the government or military of Ukraine was most likely not involved in this. Doesn’t rule out a fringe group of misguided Ukrainians, but it certainly would not have been sanctioned by anyone in authority.
“My comment before again vanished!”
Certain keywords have been doing that recently. It you can’t figure out which particular word is the culprit, you *might* be able to use the ‘edit’ function to narrow it down by removing one line at a time, reposting, and seeing if your post still disappears (watching the 4 minute time limit,of course) when you leave and re-enter the thread. Maybe.
There was only one comment in moderation on this post and it was held (and sent to trash) for too many links. There’s nothing there from you.
I’ve had some fairly vanilla comments simply refuse to post while some awfully nasty comments by others get through all the time. I suspect it’s a glitch.
Same here, Thomas. Inexplicable, inscrutable WordPress, I suppose.
I’ve had some comments disappear forever for no discernable reason and some that disappear and, sunnuvagun! appear a few hours later just when I think they were zooming past the Big Giant Head in cyberspace.
It’s one of those little mysteries of the universe that will probably be solved only when they finally nail down the Grand Unified Theory.
P.S. I still blame the ballpoint pen.
I blame autotuning and … Taylor guitars. LOL
Within the last week or so I have had 3 or 4 of my comments simply vanish as soon as I hit the post button. Gone. Instantly. No explanation. A few other regulars have noticed the same thing. I bet that’s what Keith is referring to.
Jamie
It’s happened to me also.
Can comment on other posts, or can reply, but when I try to post it disappears.
Doesn’t happen very often: about two to three times a week.
“Within the last week or so I have had 3 or 4 of my comments simply vanish as soon as I hit the post button. Gone. Instantly. No explanation. A few other regulars have noticed the same thing. I bet that’s what Keith is referring to.”
I’ve also had a weird thing happen where I can’t copy any text to paste it into a reply…the option is just ‘greyed out’.
It just happened to me TWICE today. Almost as if someone was reading my post in real-time as ai typed it … because neither included any “bad words”
Kate it seemed to reject it after I put my name and email in! The post was removed immediately! Not sure what’s happening?
We are told that Muslims use Terrorism … because that is the only “tool” they have to fight back against The Great Satan – America. That American military might is so great, that Terrorism is their only way to fight a war.
Well … it is apparent that Ukraine has LOST their attempt to dislodge Russia from “their country”. And it isn’t gonna get any better … even WITH more $$$ US Taxpayer dollars. Ukraine has LOST the War, and don’t have any more men to put into the battle. So … perhaps this is their adoption of the Muslim playbook?
The outline is logical.
I think they’d be stupid to attack civilians in a theater. I’m sure there are military targets they might be able to hit. This would lose them support everywhere. Maybe Colonista could excuse it but nobody sane. Putin might try it to accomplish that but the Muslims are still my first suspects.
I agree 100% Thomas —Ukraine has nothing to gain and everything to lose! It’s against all logic!
PS …
It’s reported that these Terrorist suspects received a few thousand dollars American for their efforts? That was their paltry, minimal, pay? They killed 140 living souls for a few thousand $$? So each Russian life is worth about $ 30.00? I knew life was CHEAP outside America and Canada … but $30.00!? That’s beyond SICK.
“Was the CIA behind the terror attack near Moscow?
Yes
75.1%
No
24.9%
124,944 votes·Final results”
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1771291509025112081
What’s amazing is how the CIA got the Russian police and FSB to cooperate with the attack.
Took the police a long time to show up. And there didn’t seem to be any police etc. in the complex when the attackers started shooting.
Every honest person knows this was a Mossad/CIA operation. Gods Chosen People want WWIII thinking they will be the only ones left.
https://banned.video/watch?id=6600b40d961a509804fd75bc
Reports Live From Moscow Terror Attack Site, Exposes What Really Happened