Losing The War on Plastic

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1. the bags were never “single use” but only single use for the purposes of propaganda

2. Ugh, there’s a video on my weather network app bemoaning the fad of Stanley mugs and alluding to others like Nalgene etc. My good god, can’t the enviros leave anything alone?!
   they are REUSEABLE for cripes sake! The video talks about fads and collecting etc, but no mention of how even having multiple mugs in different colours etc, is still better than all the coffee cups etc. people just throw away daily..

   Is nothing sacred? I just get tired of the constant badgering over everything and adding an environmental tilt to the whole thing.

   Don’t even get me started on the ‘reusable’ shopping bags, in some ways, I think they are worse for the environment than the so called single use ones..

   1. Nalgene bottles are crap, and definitely not worth the price. You get more mileage by reusing gator-aid or juice bottles.

      1. The new ones, perhaps. They are certainly expensive. They say they went BPA free?
         Nalgene makes lab quality bottles etc. I retired one of my old Nalgene water bottles, it’s over 20 years old. I have some others as new old stock, none newer than 10 yrs old, they are fine. Also have a Camelbak Chute. I don’t like it as much as my Nalgene ones.
         Also, my portable MSR filtration system screws directly on top of the wide mouth Nalgenes for capture.
         Yes, I also save and use the Gatorade ones too, but their life is more finite, the caps are soft and get worn easily and the bottle plastic is very thin.

         Biggest detriment to plastic, besides impacts, are UV light and abrasive cleaning regimens, micro scratches to the plastic can harbour bacteria and molds. I use sanitizing products from my beer brewing supplies to keep on top of cleanliness.
         You can buy new caps for the Nalgene ones as well.

         1. The soft white Nalgene bottles used BPA. The hard grayish blue type (polycarbonate?) never did.
            I used both types when canoeing in the 90s.
            Like you said, water filter fits nicely in the wide mouth, easy to clean, could bounce around on the floor of a canoe for a week without breaking. Perfect size for PA tablets if not using filter. Also held a few wraps of emergency duct tape nicely.

      2. Wrong.
         Again.
         I’ve got 2 Nalgene water bottles.
         One is over 8 years old and the other is over 10.

         1. I had one. It fell 6′ from a ladder while full of water and broke. Junk. Plastic juice bottles are more robust. But by all means tell us all how good they look beside your laptop.

   2. Watch a few Pakistani manufacturing videos on YouTube, see just how good for the environment these recycled reusable bags are.

   3. The constant badgering IS the point. Annoying you is the point. Making your life miserable is the point. They will never stop.

3. All the ban on shopping bags has done is forced me to purchase small trash and dog shit bags.

   1. Exactly. I now use twice the number of bags.

      1. I just used my OLD grocery store bag today, that I keep for library purposes, and returned my books and cds in that old, tattered bag for the 24th time,

4. does that include the “little drinky box thingies” that the empty hair uses???

5. Unforeseen consequences of badly written vanity legislation? How can this be?!

6. Bag bag bags.. Poo bags, Wet kitchen waste bags.. The clear or blue recycle bags and the good ole bag bags..
   We buy more bags so we can sort our garbage like the simpletons we are.. This one biodegrades :).. Woot woot..

   Don’t even get me started on the idiot reusable bags that nobody reuses.. Gives them a use for the recycled fiber that nobody wants.. Now they can charge 35 cents for a bag made out of dead cats that used to be worth a fraction of a penny..

   This tax is apparently sustainable..

7. I bet these aholes have shares of Glad, or Unilever, or whoever makes kitchen garbage and poo bags.
   I think a new law should be that to hold public office, your entire portfolio should be made public, and any restrictive legislation that shows a perceived conflict of interest be grounds for a severe audit, and removal from office.

8. The more laws you make, the more room for failure you create.

   1. The more laws you make, the more laws you need.

9. Every time when I go to Costco … it seems as though EVERY single shopper is checking out with two flats filled with plastic water bottles.

   Gavin Newsom needs to follow Kate’s “advice” … ban everything. No more pussyfooting around with banning things that people can work around. Start banning stuff everyone needs. Come on Gavin … make em PAY for their sinful lifestyles! If it saves just ONE sea turtle it would be worth it … right?

   1. Everybody knows that when the SHTF a couple flats of plastic water bottles will come in pretty handy.

      As money, if nothing else. You can sell them to the stupid people who OF COURSE have nothing when the balloon goes up.

10. A “loophole” to Leftards is we won’t report to their MAID meat grinder.

11. In Arizona for a month. Have my reusable bags in my purse. No where even gives me a chance to get them out. So going home with a bag of plastic bags. So excited to have garbage bags and bags to transfer stuff to my kids and friends in again. Going to be hard to go back home and remember to use the reusable bags.

12. When Oregon started this crap I just bought 1,000 clear T-Shirt bags from U-line (not the much more expensive and quite inferior Amazon things). The work out about 3c each. I always have a small number of them neatly folded in my back pocket. When needed they come out and get packed.

    They are a bit larger than the old supermarket bags, so you don’t need as many.

    The thick plastic “reusable” bags, or the paper ones … I don’t know which I hate most.

13. It’s quite astounding how often edicts issued by the “progressive” liberals so often have unintended consequences that make things far worse, obvious to anyone with a modicum of synaptic activity, but completely escapes the liberal brain so driven by hopeless ideology.

14. Bags and bottles???

    How about the hundreds of millions if not billions of single use masks and respirators made of non-woven fabrics? Covid was so dangerous that we all had to wear face masks but the contaminated things were flung into regular trash or onto parking lots asphalt.

    1. Bacteria incubators. Idiots still wear them.

15. The toilet paper you buy is wrapped in plastic to hold six rolls, and then six of those are wrapped together in plastic. Same with paper towel rolls. How many things are in plastic blister packs with a cardboard frame? Almost everything you buy will be wrapped or bagged in plastic – peppers, hot dogs, ground beef, fresh tortellini, cheese, fish, etc. Check next time you buy groceries. Anything with moisture in it or that needs to have moisture kept out. Why? Because plastic is effective, efficient, and lightweight. Imagine putting all of the aforementioned into glass containers (heavy to transport and recycle) or wax paper (much less effective). Transportation costs would skyrocket, food spoilage would increase massively. If you can find a better replacement, please do. But don’t tear down the fence until you know why it was built.

16. You can never lose a war that you don’t start.

    It’s a fact.