Recurrent analyzed the cold-weather behavior of 18 different EVs and found that these batteries performed at about 70% capacity in temperatures below freezing. Obviously, each vehicle is different, but an average of 70% means that some vehicles did much worse. The worst offenders were the Volkswagen 1D4, which lost 46% of its capacity, and the Chevy Bolt, which saw a 42% drop.
What’s the main culprit? It’s drivers and passengers trying to keep warm.
Doomberg: That which can’t go on forever usually doesn’t.
is ANYONE surprised by this?? I mean besides the loony lefties?? ALL this EV stuff is just a waste of money and a waste of OUR TAX PAYER FUNDED REBATES/INCENTIVES. whatever you want to call them…….
Battery cars are to transportation what Bud light is to beer.
98% of all electric busses are in China.
China uses Lithium Titanate batteries, not standard Li-ion.
Lithium Titanate batteries are good down to -40, muck safer fire-wise, and last about 20 times longer than Li-ion.
They are not as energy dense, so not got for smaller EVs, but for busses, they work great.
When it comes to mass-transit, North America is totally retarded.
China is smart enough to use coal, we are not.
They are not as energy dense, so not got for smaller EV’s, but for busses, they work great.
Not so sure about that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T71cVhxG_v4
Not Lithium Titanate batteries.
You can tell because those “buses” are actually the size of a van.
Nice try, though.
I remember those halcyon days when most of the right was about the truth, not a narrative.
Waiting for the report of an EV driver up North who was asphyxiated by the charcoal hibachi he had in the car with him to keep warm.
Oh well, anyone who can afford a tesla can afford a Canada Goose combo. Maybe the EV makers should think about offering those as virtue-signaling accessories.
I have a plug in hybrid that gives me about 30KM of range in the summer with the AC off.
A full charge costs about $0.50 from empty and takes about 1hr 40 minutes on a 220V charger.
It takes about 4 hours on a 110V charger.
With AC on, the mileage drops to around 20KM.
In the winter, at about -10, the range before I turn on any heat shows about 20KM.
Turn on the heat and the range drops to about 10KM.
At -20 or worse, it still shows 20KM range but as soon as I start moving, the range drops to 14KM.
Turn on the heat and it drops to 7KM.
All summer long I can get awesome mileage. I think I averaged 2.3L/100KM all summer which included a couple of highway trips greater than 300KM with no charging stops along the way. Without those highway trips, I’m pretty sure I could have averaged 1L/100KM but that how it played out.
When I hear some EV fanboy tell me how much range on an ICE vehicle drops, I have a chuckle because I never gave range a second thought when driving an ICE vehicle. The fact that the mileage dropped by 50KM a tank in the dead of winter was a drop in the bucket when I still had 500KM of range left.
EVs have their place but they don’t belong in everyone’s driveway and they certainly shouldn’t be forced on anyone.
By the way, to balance out my closet tree hugger tendencies, my other summer car is a nearly 500HP classic Mustang that I don’t get to drive nearly as much as I’d like to.
Sorry – are you saying your vehicle gets 30km battery range?
Is that a typo?
The pros of EVs is they take the emissions – and we mean the REAL emissions, not the unicorn farts – are created somewhere else. Your EV is powered from another source, and if that source creates emissions (ie – goal, nat gas, witches…) then they are burnt in an industrial zone and not the street next to the playground your kids play on.
So… yeah, a good thing. But the emissions still exist. Just cause NIMBY doesn’t mean they stop existing.
Also, I drive a turbo diesel.
Back when I had hair and was a slack uni student doing first year engineering we were explained the basic ideas of energy into a system.
So you add energy into an engine in the form of fuel and the engine converts into mechanical energy. The ratio of energy in to useful energy out gives the efficiency of the system. Anything that is not usable energy is waste and normally comes out as heat.
So being a know it all 18 year old I thought “So if you turn the car heater on the waste heat is now being used and the efficiency of the system is improved. Cool! How clever am I? ”
( then too my smugness and didn’t study that hard and… yeah… more fool me)
Anyway, while you are clearly not taking energy from nowhere by running a car heater the point still stands. An ICE engine makes waste heat. If you want to use that waste heat to say, heat the interior of the car then the heat is there to take.
If you have say an Electric engine there is much less waste heat. So if you want heat you have to bring it in from elsewhere.
So yeah, the batteries on an EV drain quicker when you use the car heater? Well… Duh!
Anyone who has used any kind of battery in the winter knows they are affected by cold. Ever try to jumpstart a diesel pickup in -30 weather? The only people this should surprise are Vancouverites that are amazed every time it snows.