We never did build an oil export port at Kitimat. But Calgary-based Gibson Energy recently bought a massive, nearly brand-new oil export facility on the Texas Gulf Coast. And this one is capable of loading supertankers. Too bad there wasn’t one on the BC coast they could have bought.
Also, Brian Zinchuk talks to John Gormley Live about the carbon tax, helium, wind, solar and more.
The federal zealots have the social licence to wreck the country.
Heating your home, eating food, surviving winter, and the banks is your problem.
Vote the right way, or else.
The “right way” is to vote for the party that best represents your beliefs and principles.
If the CPC were in any meaningful way “conservative”, they’d have my support. They aren’t, so they don’t.
I will be voting PPC.
And you will be doing exactly what the Liberals want.
The LPC calls the CPC “the Party of stupid”, the reasons are obvious.
All the more reason to vote PPC if the Conservative Party is the party of the stupid. That being said it will be amusing to watch the results of the next election and see how many Canadians will again cast their votes for the parties of morons, Lib/Dips!
Your “logic” is unhinged.
“And you will be doing exactly what the Liberals want. ”
No, the Liberals want me to vote for them. Not even if Hell freezes over.
“The LPC calls the CPC “the Party of stupid”, the reasons are obvious.”
Yes, but not for the reason you think.
The CPC sees more of their votes going to the PPC every election, but is apparently TOO STUPID to ask why.
They rely on the same tired old fearmongering as always: “But…but…if you vote PPC, the Liberals will win again! You HAVE TO vote for us!!” No, actually, we don’t. And we won’t, until you GROW A PAIR and start acting like actual conservatives. We reject your fearmongering and your whining attempts to cajole us into voting for a party that is effectively Liberal Lite.
Pandering to the old PC supporters is stupid and counter-productive….let them vote Liberal again if they want to. And if the Liberals should take advantage of this and win another majority? That’s ON YOU. We gave you a choice. You had plenty of time to modify your platform to allow us to vote for you again, and you had plenty of time to explain those policies to the Canadian voters and convince them that they are logical, fair and supportable policies…better than the Liberal or NDP ones.
Maybe it will take another election cycle for the Liberals to damage this country badly enough that they will listen to reason, maybe not. You’ll never know until you try.
In the meantime, stop demanding that I reward bad behavior with my vote. You want it? EARN it.
Don, you should be voting for them as well not bitching about what liberals want.
And that is why you are in effect supporting the Liberals and the NDP.
If you’re dead set on voting PPC, you might as well vote Lib/Dip. It’ll have the same effect. Or not voting at all.
You purer than pure so-called ‘conservatives’ are pitiful… Politics is the art of the possible, but keep throwing your vote away.
Quite right, TP. A vote for the PPC is a vote for Justatwit, Jughead and four more years of them. The delusion that some have for the PPC is truly pathetic. The public support for Mad Max the Egotist is well below double digits. In fact the views of PPC supporters here are so stupid that one is tempted to think that they want Justatwit and Jughead back in office after 2025.
So voting for the PPC has the opposite effect of voting for the CPP, Canadians are stupid. Vote PPC and get rid of the liberals and n d p.
The dozen or so people that vote for the PPC are roundly envied by the people unable to wallow in their joy, having settled for a more likely successor.
Congratulations, you’re giving them just what they wanted.
Cutting off your nose to spite your face still leaves a face you only see on cheap lighters.
Often, they will be loading foreign tankers with Canadian oil that was sold at a (low) Canadian price into US hands. Canadians only get that low price (set by the cost of shipping it somewhere it can be sold at all); Canadians only get low (if any) profits and the feds and provinces get (much) lower taxes (if any) on the sales. The US hands then move the oil to the loading facility, often in rail cars owned by a good US democrat who pockets huge fees for that service; where it is sold at world price. The US hands get the incremental profit and the US government gets the incremental taxes. The last time I saw numbers on this, we (Canada; really Western Canada) are foregoing tens of billions of dollars that could have been dividends to Canadian pension funds, good jobs for (Western) Canadian oil industry workers, and taxes for all levels of Canadian government, to the tune of about $14 billion Canadian a year. But no, according to Mr Trudeau Canadians voted not to have this AND to then pay carbon taxes on what is left behind. Or at least until the infrastructure fails and they are left freezing in the dark.
JAB, well articulated and a fine observation!
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“ Politics is the art of the possible”.
It is not “possible” for western Canada to ever be significantly represented with in the present framework of the federal political system, NO MATTER WHICH PARTY FORMS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!
It’s not a political philosophy question. It’s a numbers issue. The golden triangle, Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa. The west is a colony to be plundered.
Any western Canadian who takes their time to understand history needs to come to grips with this reality.
PP will disappoint the west in time…because he will have to.
Free the West.
Draw an east west line running through Montreal and Toronto. Half of Canadians live below that line.
We in the west are deluded to think we matter.
It’s just reality.
actually the western vote , west of ontario even in the unfair system equals the votes east of ontario. 108 per side. population is 12 mill west and 11 million east of ontario.
Conservatives spend too much time worrying about voting.
“Too bad there wasn’t one on the BC coast they could have bought.”
There will never be a tanker port on the BC coast as long as the Dips are in power in BC and Justatwit and Jughead are in power in Ottawa. Anyone imagining that this can be fixed by voting PPC is even more demented than J&J.
So what’s Plan B?
“Anyone imagining that this can be fixed by voting PPC is even more demented than J&J.”
Anyone believing that the CPC has the intestinal fortitude to fix it is just as demented, though.
There will certainly never be a tanker port in BC. So what’s Plan B?
“There will certainly never be a tanker port in BC. So what’s Plan B?”
Replacing the BC provincial government with a smarter one. Federal votes, whether for the CPC or PPC, will do absolutely nothing to solve this problem, since the feds cannot build or operate a tanker port without BC approval.
Coast to coast to coast has more to do with skateboarding than business in Canada.
The 2021 Federal election was a classic ‘never let a crisis go to waste’ call, wherein citizens were being bullied beyond any time in baby boomer memory.
At that time, had our governors acted in good faith, Canada may have formed a temporary
coalition of parties to reflect all viewpoints regarding physical separations and medical decisions.
Once the pox was under control, either through time or efficacy of measures offered up,
citizens could focus on important issues such as choosing their parliamentarians.
In 2021, Green Party elected 2 MP’s with 2.33% of the federal votes cast.
PPC elected 0 MP’s with 4.945% of federal votes cast.
Greens have voice and influence in Parliament.
PPC has or should have influence, if not voice, in Loyal Opposition.
Liberals have suggested that if people want more influence in Federal decision making, they should elect more Liberals to Parliament.
CPC should pay heed to why 5% of the electorate see their voice represented by PPC.
NDP expects to gain the votes of those who voted Liberal last time out, and who now want to distance themselves from the disastrous Trudeau 2.0 era.
Pierre Poillievre should have open talks with Max Bernier, about any differences in their policies, and create interest in the voices of/arguments for conservatism.
I think you are correct. PP should talk with Max.
All folks voting PPC need to at least think about the effect their votes had in the last election:
The PPC failed to win any seats in the Sept. 20 election, but gathered 5.1 per cent of the popular vote — up from 1.6 per cent in the 2019 federal election.
In 21 ridings across the country, the size of the PPC vote was greater than the number of votes by which the Conservative candidate lost that riding: 12 in Ontario, five in B.C., two in Alberta, one in Quebec and one in Newfoundland.
Fourteen of those losses were to Liberals, while six went to the NDP and one to the Bloc Quebecois.
As I watched the results come in on election night I was shocked and disappointed to see PPC voters hand the election to Trudeau. It is as if the folks voting for Mad Max are innumerate!!
“Pierre Poillievre should have open talks with Max Bernier, about any differences in their policies, and create interest in the voices of/arguments for conservatism.”
That’s true. I wish Max hadn’t quit the CPC to form his own party, but now that he has, it would be really helpful for the two parties to work together as much as possible. Might even be a merger possible one day if they do.
Screw Max & screw PP. The only way out of this mess is WEXIT. The sooner you realize this, the sooner we can get down to brass tacks.
“Screw Max & screw PP. The only way out of this mess is WEXIT. The sooner you realize this, the sooner we can get down to brass tacks.”
That would be my first choice too, if there were a separatist party in BC that I could vote for.
Sorry DB, you are going no where. The socialist cadre is well entrenched in Alberta. Too bad but Alberta is not what it it was. Imported people have changed Alberta.
I did business there for a number of years, it is not the same.