It’s who they are. It’s what they do.
Linda Frum- In “important” newsletter this Trudeau MP cites “atrocities” and war crimes which she alleges have been committed by Israel. No mention of Hamas. A call for Israel to end its siege but no demand for release of hostages or end of ongoing rocket attacks. This is the Liberal party hypocrisy we know so well. Specific messages tailored to specific audiences. Everyone told what they want to hear.
Featured Comment: Arty,“Our opinions will balance themselves.”
“Specific messages tailored to specific audiences. Everyone told what they want to hear.”
That’s true on both sides of this conflict. Not just this conflict but the Ukraine war, the Syrian war, the war in Yemen, and …. well basically every war. I think there was a period a few generations back where the press were more skeptical about statements from their own “side” (like the Vietnam war), but now, with only a few exceptions like Tucker Carlson, they regurgitate the official line.
“It’s important that we keep the things that matter in focus”
Hamas’s charter says they want to kill all the Jews.
“Hamas’s charter says they want to kill all the Jews.”
Where does it say that joe?
Here’s the relevant passage from the Hamas charter.
“16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.”
Here are a few of verses of the Koran you may want to look up:
2:191, 3:151, 8:12, 8:60, 9:5, 9:30, 9:123, 22:19, 47:4
And remember it is not just against Jews, but against anybody who does not convert to their beliefs and fight for their cause.
Joe’s talking about the Hamas charter. Any comment on that?
I’m saying it goes well beyond the Hamas charter to that which is demanded by the Koran of its followers.
No need for comment, they are islamic and follow the koran, the “charter” is meaningless, they are commanded to kill Jews by their so called holy book. W T F U.
The original Hamas Charter is very clear. Hamas is the Muslim Brotherhood of Palestine. The original Charter makes it clear that Hamas IS the Muslim Brotherhood of Palestine and the Islamic Resistance Movement. The Islamic Resistance Movement which, (according to the original Hamas Charter directs Hamas) in the words of Hamas itself says “….the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah’s promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:
“The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
They claim that “Palestine” (which never existed as a country) has ALWAYS been Muslim. Clearly these people are nuts.
And of course, there was the alignment between the Arab world and the Nazis.
From Leviticus 20:10:
‘The man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, he who commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress, shall surely be put to death.”
I’m guessing most Christians don’t take that literally, or should we assume they all do, like your apparent claim that all Muslims want to kill all Jews?
Klapper
Didn’t say all Muslims want to kill Jews. I said Hamas’s charter says they want to kill Jews.
And their charter clearly says so.
As do their actions.
from article eleven of Hamas charter
“The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated for Moslem generations until Judgement Day. This being so, who could claim to have the right to represent Moslem generations till Judgement Day?”
And note this (also from article eleven):
“This is the law governing the land of Palestine in the Islamic Sharia (law) and the same goes for any land the Moslems have conquered by force, because during the times of (Islamic) conquests, the Moslems consecrated these lands to Moslem generations till the Day of Judgement.”
From article thirteen
“Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.”
“There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”
What is White Phosphorus That Israel is Using in Gaza Strip?
In course of the ongoing military escalation of the Palestine-Israel conflict, Human Rights Watch has alleged that the Israel Defense Forces have deployed munitions with white phosphorus, stating that using these munitions endangers the safety of civilians, causing severe and enduring injuries.
https://sputnikglobe.com/20231014/what-is-white-phosphorus-that-israel-is-accused-of-using-in-gaza-strip-1114174368.html
More is better.
“from article eleven of Hamas charter”
I think your quoting from a superseded document. And think you’ve chosen the 1988 charter because it fits your preconceptions. Article 11 of the 2017 charter references the AL Aqsa mosque but in general is a much more secular document.
Klapper
Suggest you actually read the 2017 Hamas charter
Who gives a shit where it is written Joe is right ! Because that’s what they did and they targeted children! They are a bunch of bastards and now they are going to get hammered!
As true cowards that they are they will use the Palestinian people as their body shield !
It’s left wing progressive commies like Frum, and her son, who are responsible for the colossal 5th column that now resides in the west
If Hamas is exterminated, progressives will simply find some other hateful, murderous cause to fund. Never forget Kamala Harris’ donation of funds used to bail out rioting members of BLM.
Talking out of both sides of their mouths again? Of course the minute the pro-Pali crowd make the liberals anxious they’ll be weeping for that side publicly.
The dog that didn’t bark…?
Why aren’t any journalists or politicians ibn Canada calling on Hamas to release the hostages?
Have they already been murdered but we’re not allowed to know that?
Or does the pro-Hamas media toadying get a bit sticky if the public is reminded that there are hostages held by Hamas?
We’re fed garbage.
Another example: why aren’t any politicians or journalists calling for a ceasefire in Ukraine?
Some are already calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.
Mr. Inbetween explains why society should thank him for dealing with arseholes:
https://youtu.be/1YHLMU_5MLo
Quite the clip! I certainly agree that there are no consequences for many things that are clearly wrongdoing!
Well duh.
If its lips are moving,it is lying.
If it is writing,it is deceiving..
if it provides video,it is selectively edited.
It is a Liberal.
They didn’t give a crap when the government gave me second class nogger status and I couldn’t set foot in a restaurant so screw their concerns now.
Time to take out the garbage….which includes the recycling that goes out with the rest of the trash….
P.S. I was flipping through morning ‘news’ shows and their was growing concern expressed for all the innocent Palis….
Where are these innocent Pals?. New York?
London? Nope. They were all cheering for the death of jews.
Our opinions will balance themselves.
The purpose of the recent Jihad-inspired mini-holocaust event was to mine western sentiment (for cash and tears) for the Palestinian “victims” of Israel’s guaranteed response. The “progressive” west (primarily US) funds both sides of this mess and the ongoing resultant instability of “resolution” from western pressure is another result. The western humanities professoriate and their nihilism in lieu of moral clarity is more responsible for this mess than anyone else. The Frums are the useful idiots of the Jihad.
Frum and company have been voting and financially supporting the Libs for decades, and probably still shall.
Trudeau say’s that Canada is a “systemically racist nation”.
Trudeau Liberals call organizations like the proud boys & Freedom Convoy terrorists or worse racists & misogynists. Apparently Catholics are racist & genocidal, along with parents concerned about child education.
I suppose that if you wear Blackface, grope women “who see it differently”, salute Nazi’s in Parliament, support the Air India bombers along with ISIS “fighters” flying back and forth from the middle east, Hamas calling for Jewish blood in the streets, 10 million dollar payouts to a convicted murderer, you would know – He’s absolutely right for once, Canada is a systemically racist nation.
Linda Frum is a retired Conservative Senator. Those of you who accuse her of being a liberal propagandist haven’t been keeping up.
Go ahead flame me. Prove me wrong.
Merely because she carried the title of “Conservative” doesn’t mean she was, any more than the current crop of “Conservative” MP’s who failed to stand up for our rights during lockdown are conservative.
Further, Mulroney was about as “Conservative” as your average Liberal at the time. Plenty of examples abound.
Uni-Party.
What part of “Team Canada” did you miss?
Well Frum certainly had the “CON” part down pat.
Show some Frum quotes that proves your case.
No ‘conservative’ would fill the bill for the SDA crowd including me. We’re talking Canadian politics here.
I fear the Isaelis will walk into a trap if they invade Gaza. But, they do have a model for dealing with the genocidal bastard – Nuremberg and Nazi hunts. Hamas needs to be destroyed; draw up a list of the top three levels of Hamas members and hunt down and assissinate them, or bring them toIsrael for trial, a la Eichmann.
What Hamas Was Really Out To Do
https://www.danielgreenfield.org/2023/10/what-hamas-was-really-out-to-do.html
After the Hamas atrocities, experts scurried to explain why it had embraced “ISIS tactics”. Many saw the attacks purely as a way of sabotaging Israel’s talks with Saudi Arabia. Others argued that Hamas had tried for a small attack that escalated when Israel failed to promptly respond. Some express bafflement at what Hamas could have hoped to gain from such an attack.
The experts as usual are wrong because they don’t understand Hamas. And their ignorance stems from their inability to grasp Islamic terrorism because they don’t understand Islam.
Hamas, like the PLO and other Islamic terrorist groups, had spent much of its existence promising to do exactly what it tried to do, invade Israel, and seize and occupy its territory, taking Jewish villages and towns by stages over the years until one day besieging Jerusalem.
The Palestinian Authority, funded by American taxpayers, still airs Arafat’s old speeches in which he calls for “millions of martyrs marching to Jerusalem”. Americans and Israelis refused to take such rhetoric seriously. The cost was over 1,200 lives when Hamas tried to carry it out.
In operational terms, Hamas transitioned from a terrorist organization to a guerrilla force like ISIS or Hezbollah. Israel had been conditioned to expect small hit and run raids. It was not expecting an actual invasion. A hit and run raid with this many Jihadists makes no sense.
This wasn’t a hit and run raid.
Israeli military leaders are now saying that Hamas had not come just to attack, but to occupy and take over the Jewish communities that it invaded. It brought heavy firepower and some of its best trained Jihadists to not just attack, but to hold, fortify and annex those areas.
What the world witnessed was mostly the first stage of a three stage plan. In the second stage, Hamas Jihadists would have secured the captured communities while in the third stage, Hamas civilians, especially women and children, would have been brought in to occupy them. The Israeli military would have had to choose between firing on enemy civilians crossing the border or trying to fight Hamas once it was operating from behind its own human shields.
The captured villages would have been functionally annexed. Even if Israel had recaptured them, it would then have to expel the Muslim civilians now living inside them. Human rights groups and international pressure might have prevented Israel from taking such a step…
US Tries to Manufacture Consent for War With Iran by Blaming Tehran for Israel Crisis
US and Israeli officials have accused Iran of ‘complicity’ in Hamas’s surprise offensive, with President Biden cryptically warning Tehran to “be careful.” Is there any truth in Washington and Tel Aviv’s claims? What are the risks of a further escalation?
https://sputnikglobe.com/20231013/us-tries-to-manufacture-consent-for-war-with-iran-by-blaming-tehran-for-israel-crisis-1114169021.html
The Biden administration (headed by a man who can’t even tie his own shoes) views their funding of the war in Ukraine to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars, and their insistence that Zelensky not negotiate with Russia as victories.
What do you THINK happens next?
Hamas, Taliban, Isis, Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Iran etc. All psychopathic murdering bastards. It’s in every one of their charters to kill all the Jews and erase Israel. You think they’ll stop at that? If you take their side or equivocate about proportional responses, I wonder how you’re bright enough to breathe.
The koran says all we need to know about who they will kill.