Any predictions out there as to who is going to triumph in the Manitoba provincial election being held on October 3rd?
Here’s mine: The tax and spend party is going to win out over the borrow and spend party.
Here’s why: voters are upset that seven years of rule by the borrow and spend party have not fixed socialized medicine. As happens in every election cycle, each party takes a stab at trying to make this centrally planned system function. It’s now the NDP’s turn to engage in a vain effort to accomplish the impossible. No one dares challenge the single payer model since that would result in electoral defeat.
Wab Kinew’s plan to reopen the ERs closed by the Tories is only going to happen by shifting staff from other areas, since extra staff are largely unobtainable. If you really want to determine the proper number of ERs that Manitoba needs, you would have to allow free interaction between health care practitioners and consumers in the context of a system with actual price signals. Since we have neither, good luck to Wab.

It’s a safe bet that whatever plan comes to fruition, the public will be worse off in one or more ways..
I assume it will involve some combination of:
Increased # of bureaucrats to “improve the health system”
New Taxes to increase affordability
No new oil licences
More unreliable power generating schemes run by NDP party members
and a Malaise that will be blamed on the former Tories
JD, it’s clear you’ve been paying attention. I’ve had the misfortune of living under NDP governments in (chronologically) Manitoba, BC and Alberta. Thankfully we’ve now got a premier in Alberta who understands economics, fairness and sound governing principles. And she doesn’t take any shit from anyone!
Thankfully we’ve now got a premier in Alberta who understands economics, fairness and sound governing principles.
Far too early to be making brash statements like that, especially as she has proven herself to be untrustworthy with the WR floor crossing fiasco and with her current position on trannys. As for all politicians, the people need to have their steel-toed work boots at the ready. Either for a well-placed kick to her ass or direct application to her neck.
Do not fall into the trap of trusting her.
When it comes to Canadian health care, Einstein’s definition of insanity applies, as it does to so many other industries and actions where leftists get involved (whether it is COVID vaccines, climate change, gender identity, the housing crisis, homelessness, Ukraine, etc etc)… “Doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result”.
Every single one of the health care systems elsewhere in the world that are ranked above our Canadian system have one thing in common: they ALL use a mix of public and private delivery of services. Every one of them. You would think this would be a glaringly obvious solution to our own problems, right? Wrong. Not to the NDP, who still desperately cling to the belief that throwing *still* more money at the system will somehow magically solve all the inherent problems we have been living with for decades now.
Canada needs a political party that is not afraid to speak the truth on this issue. I’m not holding my breath.
Too many people in Canada believe that healthcare is a “right” and it’s “free”…
I have no idea how to disabuse people of that notion…
You can’t. Their stupidity is invincible.
Ask one of these “free healthcare” imbeciles if doctors should work for free. They will tell you “Yes!” and they will believe it. If you then ask them if -they- will work for free, they will say “that’s different.”
This is who votes in this country. They disgust me.
“Too many people in Canada believe that healthcare is a “right” and it’s “free”…
I have no idea how to disabuse people of that notion…”
Nor do I. As long as that is the case, nothing will ever change for the better.
Canada needs a political party that is not afraid to speak the truth on this issue.
Nope. Canada needs grass roots people who are willing to grab the reins & hold all politican’s feet to the fire. Most peoplekind in this shithole of a post-modern country think politicians are the solution, when, in fact, they are the problem.
Nope. Double nope. An actual plague failed to move them. We just watched that show.
Canada needs a -famine-. Possibly the other two horsemen as well.
“Nope. Double nope. An actual plague failed to move them. We just watched that show.
Canada needs a -famine-. Possibly the other two horsemen as well.”
You’re probably right about that. As much as I like DB and usually agree with his opinions, in this case I think Canada is experiencing the same thing as the US: we are just too comfortable now to even consider taking radical action against the government. We have grown soft and complacent. The Europeans even demonstrate more backbone than us, sadly…even with the high level of socialism they suffer, they are *still* willing to get angry and force their governments to listen to their complaints.
In parts of BC there is no longer a healthcare system at all. No hospital, no family doctors no clinics. In the capital of the province your only hope of seeing a doctor is to wait 8 hours in emergency when it’s even open. And still boomers insist healthcare is great here and thank god we don’t have an American system.
As with Ontario’s past election I suspect none of the 2 main parties spent any time discussing the most egregious attack on civil liberties, the whole Covid 19 response. If the opposition did it would only be to attack the government for being insufficiently draconian.
whether it is the tax and spend or the borrow and send i voted for an independent this time. Who knows he might actually win.
“No one dares challenge the single payer model since that would result in electoral defeat.”
I call BS on this. There is a about 20% of the population for whom medicare as we know it is a civic religion and they all vote one way. A lot of people aren’t that into it especially newer, better Canadians not indoctrinated by our political tribes. A lot of those normies are increasingly unhappy with the healthcare system just outright failing and I doubt they are interested in nostrums about single payer healthcare being the thing that makes us Jesus or something. The status quo is brittle, and this isn’t the only chunk of it that’s brittle.
Newer better Canadians love “ free “ health care. Especially grandma and grandpa.
No they don’t. Nobody loves the ‘free’ healthcare that consists of a wait list and no GP.
Has anyone mentioned during the MB election campaign anything about the $24 billion debt which tripled while the NDP were last in power?
I don’t care if they spend ANOTHER $24 billion at high interest, I’m just asking if anyone there knows about this…
How about they borrow another $124 billion at high interest to build solar and windmills?
Maybe build some nukes too just for baseline power when the wind isn’t blowing and WPG is at -33C
El Niño weather is expected this winter, that’s why I didn’t suggest WPG being at -38
It was always a mystery, which would succeed the most, the fastest: the Soviet economy, the Cuban economy, or the Canadian health care system. It’s down to a race between Cuba and Medicare.
Love these election signs on my neighbours’ front lawns…makes it easy to understand what they’re about: NDP=they have never read a history book. Liberal=they are ok with carbon taxes and censorship. Conservatives=same/same. If your vote counted, they wouldn’t let you do it.
Live in Manitoba. The first time since I’ve been able to vote that I will not be bothering. The conservatives in Manitoba are not conservative. I live in riding that will definitely go conservative, my dog could run and win. But the province will be going orange. They promise to hire a bunch of nurses and doctors. I am not sure where they are coming from, they’re not sitting around home doing nothing. My doctor just left and moved west because of some political stuff, not sure what. The reaction to Covid made me lose all hope for the conservatives and it’s not something I will soon forget.
I feel pretty much the same. The enhanced parental rights are a small step in the right direction. Decline your ballot vs not voting. By declining your ballot, your vote is registered not discarded.
Conservatives in Manitoba are Liberals. Which is why the Liberals have been all but obliterated.
That’s what I did, went to the voting booth and marked decline across my ballot.
the Dr and nurse tree!
Shake it
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thats nice
They’re on their way from the Middle East in dinghies in the middles of the Mediterranean. After a few weeks of ESL they will become surgeons at your rural hospitals.
Same for me in Ontario. I couldn’t bring myself to vote for the fascist Ford running the cons so I didn’t vote at all. Glad I didn’t. I wouldn’t want to be responsible for Ford winning and he had proven himself to be as bad as I imagined.
Never Done Paying.
And the citizens love it.
Healthcare is always the gotcha issue.
A friend just returned from Germany after receiving back surgery. Another friend came home from Mexico where the doctors are from Alberta. They practice there because they can actually practice.
Have a cousin living in Chicago. Hurt his shoulder playing older timers hockey. Went to his dr on Monday. Dr ordered MRI for Tuesday. Said he had torn rotator cuff. Will do surgery next Tuesday. Cousin says he can’t. Will be out of town on business. Dr says we’ll do it on the next Tuesday.
A friend recently returned from Montana with hip replacement.
People with resources get health care. The rest are put into “let’s monitor” mode. Maybe they will die and their won’t be a cost to the government.
The best way for public health care to meet the budget is by not providing health care.
If you die on a wait list, the statistics improve.
Ironically, the wait list for dying is the only one you can jump to the front of in Canada (ie. “Assisted Suicide”)
How did you do. I’m Rob…wait! how many people did we just dig up?!?
How many were wome…um what do you mean gender is a construct? How many were whi…?! Well that’s problematic.
Never forget, it was the NDP’s mismanagement which created the original “hallway medicine” crisis way back before the PCs got in. And now the NDP is even younger, less experienced, and more radical than the old one. If they get in, Manitoba will be in much, much worse shape. I think right now 40% of our provincial budget goes to service debt, generally run up by the NDP whenever they’re in power.
The polls have the parasite class electing the NDP with 90% of their support in Winnipeg That is 75% of the province.
What they really don’t care about is that the NDP have no provincial wing so Wab Kniew will be reporting to Jagmeet not the people of Manitoba and by extension Justin Trudeau.
Disgusting.
When I was growing up in SK, people I knew in MB called SK the Gap. I believe it has been officially relocated in the last decade or so! I don’t know why but all MB wants to do is be a victim. I have never seen MB attempt to try to get an economy. Although I moved to AB when SK was the Gap, I am really impressed at the industry SK has created in the last 20 years. I would consider moving back but I can’t handle SK winters (AB winters aren’t great but at least a chinook rolls through occasionally).