Safe and Effective®

back in the halcyon days of the 90’s, a young bill clinton played to perfection a certain form of crisis/criticism response:

deny, deny, deny, it’s old news.

the goal was simple: you lie and lie and lie some more. you do not expect to get away with it in the long run. you expect to get away with it long enough for people to stop caring and for it to become “old news.” and unfortunately, it works. well. because humans have the memory of goldfish and by the time it’s clear you were telling porkie pies, everyone is onto the next thing and no one cares anymore.

the modern version would seem to be:

it’s misinformation, it’s misinformation, it’s misinformation, it’s old news.

55 Replies to “Safe and Effective®”

    1. “Healthcare workloads, paperwork and compliance are one example of many. ”

      Yes, I believe that there is now a fireman’s lieutenant exam that requires 800 pages of non-fire-fighting reading…

      While I am certainly not a firefighter (that honour goes to my brother, volunteer at that), I just hit my 52 week countdown.

      Not to toot my own horn (we all know that you are replaceable), my managers are panicking, insisting on almost one third of my day now be in KT (knowledge transfer).

      Unfortunately, that part of my job that isn’t “off book”, i.e, MGMT asking if I could find a away around the problems THEY created, is “RTFM”…

  1. I figures this out pretty much from day one when the local media was publishing the covid data every day. Of course after a year of this it became obvious to anyone with a brain what was going on so they stopped updating the data.

    1. One of the reasons that Lockdownistan (Ontario) stopped provided data on those on ventilators was that it showed a clear signal that when they stopped intubating the (mostly) elderly with co-morbidities…they stopped dying as fast.

      Who knew?

      Well, US…WE knew…

      1. We knew, I knew, anyone interested enough to read extensively saw the lies. The lies continue. The terminally stupid still fear that which does not exist. Governments are still asking people to get shots of faux vaccines that do nothing except injure and kill people. Oh well.

  2. Those who were fooled and have the intellectual courage to realize they were fooled may not move on, they may demand blood. I hope they get it by the tanker truck load. Maybe after 10,000 hangings, I will tire of watching the bodies twitch as their bowels empty and they descend to whatever awaits them I will tire of it, but I want to run the experiment to know.

  3. PM Blackie elevated this to art: deny, attack the person who raised the issue, diminish/obfuscate, “experienced different reality”, “we are better than this”, “we work/continue to work”. “in hindsight we should have”, “I apologize/from now on promise to X/Y” etc.
    And Canadians simply get bored + they have as collective the mind of a squirrel and just move on to something else.

  4. Bad enough they denied everyone’s God-given fundamental rights & freedoms. The worst is they conducted a live experiment on the entire human race with involuntary injections. The counter measures today are insufficient.

  5. Mengele had nothing on this cabal. The excessive deaths will continue for decades, until of course, they begin calling it normal. Then they will begin the next phase or reduction.

    You are the carbon they wish to reduce.

    1. You are the carbon they wish to reduce.

      Yup. That’s pretty much it in a nutshell.

    1. Your study does not factor in any underlying co-morbidities, it lumps them in, and all of the youth deaths in the US with covid could very well have had underlying co-morbidities.

      1. If all children were of perfect health then perhaps COVID would not be considered a serious illness to them.

        But manifestly not all children are of perfect health, so it is.

        1. KM, you argue reasonably and do not resort to name calling, but your argument here is specious. Lots of things are dangerous to already sick children, this was not treated like any of those, and if you are being honest, you know it.

          1. The question is a simple one: If COVID puts already sick children in mortal danger, can we then claim COVID is harmless to children?

          2. “KM, you argue reasonably and do not resort to name calling, but your argument here is specious.”

            He doesn’t need to resort to name-calling when almost every argument he makes is a direct insult to our collective intelligence.

            (and almost all of those ‘arguments’ are specious)

          3. Out of replies option so answer is here and it is simple like the question. Yes we can, as it poses no risk to healthy children. What put those children in mortal danger is their mortally dangerous condition, whatever it might be, it isn’t covid. Full stop.

          4. Tweaking KMs statement ..

            “The question is a simple one: If COVID vaccine puts already healthy children in mortal danger, can we then claim COVID vaccine is harmless to children?”

    2. You have no credibility commenting on anything Covid.
      You’re a ProJab WEASEL. Your Coincidence is coming!

        1. Funny you should say that!!! What a coincidence!!!! Your coincidence may arrive internally and very slowly or it may arrive at 2800 ft/sec. In either case you probably will not see it coming. Quite a coincidence.

          1. JohnPeg:

            I know that “COVID vaccines are toxic” is an article of faith with you, and no amount of scientific research is ever going to change your mind. You would rather believe some guy with a blog and an attitude, torturing dodgy statistics in ways that look impressive to non-statisticians.

            But try not to wish ill on people who disagree with you.

        2. “The question is a simple one: If COVID puts already sick children in mortal danger, can we then claim COVID is harmless to children?”

          Yes, because the flu and the common cold also put ‘already sick’ children in mortal danger, as do bee stings, cuts and abrasions. Obviously.

          Your desperate craving for attention is becoming tiresome.

          1. Your desperate craving for attention is becoming tiresome.

            You chose to reply to my original post. You’re free to ignore it.

    3. To better understand this paper we should know:
      a) who funded it?
      b) were the reported deaths with COVID or from it?
      c) did the fatalities have co-morbidities?
      d) how do the number of child/teen deaths compare with other pandemic/epidemic years?

      1. Joe, whatever the weaknesses the scientific method may have, it beats the hell out of whatever source of information you have.

        1. Killer

          You presented some information. Based on your information I’m now asking a series of simple questions. That’s part of the scientific method.

          It’s how knowledge increases.

        2. Killer

          If Pfizer financed the study would you accept it as gospel? Or suspect an ulterior motive?

          1. Joe: I don’t accept any paper as gospel. That’s not how science works

            But th4 issue is moot. The above paper was written entirely by university people, and there’s no declared funding by Pfizer.

        3. That is an epistemological claim. Care to justify it?

          You DO realise that piricism is the LOWEST and shittiest-performing of the “sciences”, right?

          “Physics is the only real science. All the rest is just stamp-collecting”.
          Pr. Ernest Rutherford

        4. You assume that what the establishment calls “science” uses the scientific method.

          It most certainly does not.

          It never does.

          And that is why people call them out on their lies. And it is why the establishment NEVER shares their data, or explains how their always-wrong models are built. They will point to papers, despite those papers being illogical, cherry-picking data, “smoothing” out data that refutes the agenda they’re selling, etc. And use liars-for-hire and call them experts, like Jesuit POS Anthony Fauci.

          Fools assume these perennial liars are telling you the truth. And believe that those who see through their lies are “anti-science”, “conspiracy theorists”, or require more education on the matter.

    4. The only significant COVID mortality among those between 0 and 19 were among those who were poisoned.

      Aka vaccinated.

        1. By accepting reality rather than believing lying POS’s in the controlled media.

          By using my brain rather than outsourcing it to self-serving agenda-driven scum pushing the easily-disprovable lie of the Coronahoax.

          Anyone who still hasn’t seen through this imbecilic lie by now is beyond saving.

          1. So you can’t even articulate out why you believe what you do, apart from blindly lashing out at the media.

            I can tell you why I make the assertions I do. I search the research papers. And the vast preponderance of scientific evidence says that the vaccines are of significant benefit and far outweigh the risk.

            The science isn’t perfect, but it’s the best thing we got.

          2. Then you must also believe in anthropogenic global warming.

            And the Coronahoax.

            And every other lie the establishment feeds you, b/c you read it in an establishment-approved and edited paper. You have gone through the very best Pravda has to offer you and discerned the truth.

            You have swallowed the BS fed to you – the BS signed off by those who have no morals and stayed behind to parrot the scripts they were given to them by non-scientists in order to keep their jobs.

            Good for you then. Live in the comfort your “knowledge” has afforded you.

    5. It claims 1.0/100,000k. Cold and flu normal is .6 per the same source.

      It points to COVID 19 being a double bad cold. That’s not a big deal. Or even unique, as double bad colds come around every decade or a little less.

      Between you and me the extra .4 is probably kids killed by wrongful ventilation, which your reference still supports. If you can’t get the death numbers you want you gotta make em right?

    6. We all know a hospital would never, ever code a death as COVID-19 related just for the money. Would never happen.

      Garbage in, garbage out.

      1. “We all know a hospital would never, ever code a death as COVID-19 related just for the money. Would never happen.”

        We’ve all seen the reports from down south about motorcycle accident victims and cancer deaths being listed as COVID deaths. For money.

  6. I think there’s something missing after “it’s old news”. A big chunk of the population stops taking advice from health authorities. Fewer people accepting any vaccines, more skepticism about medications, less accepting of new policies, etc. Trust that has been built over decades were torn down in 3 years, probably not to be regained for at least a generation or two.

    Hopefully it will also help people understand the root causes of many (not all) diseases and disorders is unhealthy lifestyle choices. I also hope this mess will prompt research into health supporting non-pharmaceutical, no patent needed interventions like Vitamin D and low/sensible carbohydrate diets. Pharmaceutical companies will never spend money researching such things or studying the efficacy and safety of repurposing older, off patent medications.

    1. Pharmaceutical companies will never spend money researching such things or studying the efficacy and safety of repurposing older, off patent medications.

      True, but medical research centres often do.

      1. Unless it gets zero funding from pharmaceutical companies then it will have biased research.

        One way to incentivize research into old drugs and non pharmaceutical products would be a mix of direct funding from governments (to bring down health care costs) and substantial monetary prizes. Pharmaceutical companies funding would have to be matched or surpassed.

      2. I wonder how many medical research centres there are, how many of them do that, and how often do they do that.

        1. Most medical research comes from medical centres, not pharmaceutical companies.

          1. Most funding for medical centres comes from pharmaceutical companies and industry.

            Scratch that, since governments do not create wealth, ALL research is funded by business. Period.

    2. EXACTLY! That is what they did with the anti-cancer drug AZT.

      It killed off so many cancer patients that they repurposed it to combat AIDS. And just like with the Coronahoax, they used the deaths it caused to prop-up the non-existent threat that the killer drug supposedly combatted.

      Those behind these repeated poisonings (including the vaccine-caused Spanish Flu) deserve death by burning.

  7. There’s still money to be made.
    When the original patent expires you just come out with the
    Extended release version, then the patented blend of mixed salts of the same drug, then attach an amino acid to make it a prodrug. – there is no shortage of money to be made, syndromes to be invented.

  8. ” . .. because humans have the memory of goldfish … ”

    True. There is definitely a memory deficit. But a greater problem is that a majority of the electorate is not the least concerned about ethics. Before attaining the leadership turdo was absenting himself from his Parliamentary duties to collect five-figure speaking fees from schools and charities, and blubber douggie flip-flopped on the greenbelt issue, windmills, and pissed all over the “little people” he had promised to protect. Yet they were both elected and re-elected.

    There can be only one reason: their ethics are representative of the ethics of the majority.

    1. I think the majority of the electorate is also stupid/non-thinking, and we’re importing another 500K per year!

  9. People like the killer rodent just can’t stop pushing the lie. Stupid is the only word that applies.

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