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    Just binge-watched ‘Ancient Apocalypse’ and it is compelling.

    “What if everything we know about prehistory is wrong?
    Journalist Graham Hancock visits archaeological sites around
    the world investigating if a civilization far more advanced
    than we ever believed possible existed thousands of years
    ago.”

    Certainly worth debating.

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  2. “Ancient Apocalypse” has struck a chord with family members, want to learn more.
    I’ve read all of Hancock’s non-fiction books. On this subject, start with Fingerprints of the Gods”, then “Magicians of the Gods”, and lastly, “America Before”. Read each of them twice…so far.
    If you want to get a sense of what was a turning point for Hancock, read “The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes” by scientists Richard Firestone, Allen West and Simon Warwick-Smith, published in 2007. Don’t, for God’s sake, listen to the critics on this work, but read it for yourself! Ever since its release, evidence has been piling up worldwide that this is the real deal!
    I’ll spare everyone my own convictions regarding conventional science. Suffice to say, the line between religion and science has become pretty thin over the last century. (F’rinstance, think climate change / global warming…)

    1. Briefly…every year the Earth passes through the Taurid meteor stream, twice. The last major event with this stream happened in 1908 at Tunguska in Siberia, where a bolide exploded in the atmosphere and devastated 2000 square miles of landscape. There is ample evidence that since the end of the Younger Dryas circa 9700 BCE there have been numerous similar events.
      However, circa 10,800 BCE, just as the ice age was ending, the planet crossed paths with a major portion of the stream, remnants of a massive comet that had fractured. The glacier across Canada and norther Europe took major hits.
      And the world effective slipped overnight into a nuclear winter of sorts, which caused an abrupt…think weeks and months…end to the warming, with an immediate return to ice age conditions for the next 1500 years…now referred to as the Younger Dryas Impact Event.
      35 species of large fauna went extinct in a relative blink of an eye, and the Clovis people were all but wiped out.
      Fascinating book by Firestone et al! A must read.
      Modern science doesn’t like to talk about catastrophism. Their operating paradigms are rooted in “uniformitarianism”, i.e., gradual change. Tell that to the dinosaurs! Idiots!!!

      1. I read recently, “America Before”. While I’m taking none of it as gospel, it definitely planted a few seeds. I know 3 archaeologists that I want to discuss some of his stuff with, especially the YDIT. There’s a fair amount of evidence that lines up there.

        I always questioned the hypothesis that Quaternary megafauna was hunted to extinction.

      2. Al, interestingly, one of the biggest question marks for me in America Before is his North American dirt mound research. The supposition is that these were built by hunter gatherer societies. I’m not calling an official BS, but I question that a people living hand to mouth had the time to build some of these enormous structures. I believe the dates are correct, but…

        1. Biker, that’s not even half the story regarding the mounds.
          There’s a book by Richard J. Dewhurst, “The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America”. Mostly it’s a large collection of newspaper articles dating from the late 1700s to the mid 1900s, primarily focused on what was found in many of those mounds. Skeletons, hundreds of them. The shocking thing is, many of the articles make reference to how tall these people must have been. Seven to nine feet was common, and some over ten feet! And many of them still had reddish hair remaining.
          But here’s the thing about this…the common theme is that, thinking they were doing what was right, they called in the Smithsonian. They’d show up, collect the remains, and that’s the last anyone would ever hear of it. And, yes, there’s some photos…mind blowing photos taken in the early part of the last century.
          There’s a law in the US that basically prevents science from digging into the DNA of First Nations people, and their ancestors. It’s been used to block research often. However, circa 2006 someone called BS, and challenged one specific circumstance in court…and won. Bottom line, there was no DNA connection with the any of the different tribes of the area.
          Legends of these giants come from around the globe. It was recorded that when de Soto journeyed through the southern states looking for gold, he met Tecumseh, who led him to the next native settlement. Apparently Tecumseh was so tall that, sitting on one of the Spaniard’s horses, his feet almost touched the ground. His son was similarly tall. When Magellan landed near the southern tip of South America, according to his biographer they came face to face with a race of people who towered over them by several feet.
          Frankly, I don’t think truth has much to do with too damn many aspects of the science world of the last 150 years.
          Another eye opener – “The Hidden History of the Human Race” by Michael Cremo and Richard L. Thompson, a condensed version of their book, “Forbidden Archeology”. People have no idea!

  3. Hancock’s a grifter.

    Conventional science hasn’t done itself any favours by whoring itself out for government grants, and especially in the history field there’s a lot of unsupported theorizing due to the publish-or-perish effect. But Hancock is a grifter on par with Erich von Daniken. If you’re getting your “science” from YouTube or Netflix you may want to consider the agendas involved.

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      “Hancock’s a grifter.”

      Daniel… after a pejorative statement like that, I expect
      you won’t have a problem stating your credentials, so
      that we know where exactly you’re coming from?

      No animus here, just further discussion.

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    2. Hancock is not a grifter. He presents some compelling arguments with evidence.
      He was on Joe Rogan many times with Randal Carlson, I think maybe 4 times. Look them up, excellent listen. On one episode an establishment archeologist who does think Hancock is a grifter was also one the show. They parred and another good listen. Randal Carlson, all can say is I am a fan. He has his own Podcast also, Kosmographia. His Younger Dryas research is amazing. Global temperatures rose 50 degrees in a couple of hundred years wiping out the glaciers. They figure the Grand Canyon was not made over millions of years but within a couple of hundred from the mega floods of glaciers melting. His research destroys the current climate change scam.
      Someone was here long before 6000 years ago and they were a lot more capable than us. We cold not even try to build the pyramids or many other structures around the world today that are ancient.

    3. “Grifter” may be putting it bit strongly. He is indeed much more interested in writing something catchy than something valid, and it’s a mistake to take him very seriously. He’s writing for fun and thrills, and if that’s how you take him, no harm done. He has some really interesting ideas. I’m not sure how well they stand up, I suspect not well.

  4. Bob

    I watched a couple of those incredibly interesting podcasts.

    What Randal spoke of regarding a near instant warm up makes such total sense fully back up by the O2 Isotope ice cores.

    One only need drive from Calgary to Red deer to see ample evidence of 1/2 Mike to Mile wide ancient river bed carved into the prarries…and right within Calgary proper as well.

    I totally buy his conclusions.

    1. Hmmm… Just had a thought.

      South of Lethbridge a 45 minute drive is a small town by the name of Milk River (yes, the border blockade one), located on the banks of the Milk River, named by Lewis & Clark.

      It’s a lazy little prairie stream with a tremendous archaeological & geological history. If you paddle it east of Milk River until it intersects with Verdigris Coulee (about 10 road miles east of the town site) you’ll find the tiny Milk River valley opens up into a broad expanse a half mile or more wide. Locally it’s known as Young’s Crossing and was where, years ago, the water was found to be shallow enough that local farmers could cross the river back & forth without having to drive to the next bridge.

      The theory is that, as the ice melted near the end of the last glaciation, the runoff from the Oldman River & all it’s tributaries (St. Mary, Belly, Waterton, etc.) hit the ice face in the Lethbridge area and, as the current Oldman River valley was blocked by the laurentide glacier, all the melt water headed SE, forming the sizable Verdigris Coulee & dumping into the Milk. You can trace the path of the water from Lethbridge with a topographic or good road map along various locations, including Verdigris Lake and Tyrrell Lake. As the glacier receded, the water formed the current Oldman River valley.

      If there was a rapid warming, that would make even more melt water. The river valley directly downstream of Young’s crossing is truly huge, as big or bigger than anything I’ve seen on the Oldman, with this small stream in the bottom.

      Hadn’t pieced that together.

  5. Been following Hancock, Carlson, Bauval and Schoch for about 10 years now. Schoch’s work on the sphinx was the impetus that made me question everything I’d been taught about pre-history…and alot of other things lol.

    Nice to see them finally hitting the mainstream…

  6. When I first heard the Sphinx was at least 12,000 years old, it was like what. I have read the head was originally a lion and was carved into a Pharaoh by the Egyptians which means it was there before them. Before the pyramids.
    Amazing stuff. You wonder if there are any family lines still intact from 20,000 years ago or more.
    I mean if the Sphinx is ~12,000 years old, they weren’t born the day before to build that so maybe around for thousands of years before. Atlantis existed, another Randall Carlson target.
    Our ancient history is a lot richer than we know. The Great Pyramid is at the exact centre of the earth’s land mass.
    https://www.ancient-code.com/the-great-pyramid-of-giza-is-located-at-the-exact-center-of-earths-landmass/

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