Appears to be peer reviewed. Let me know if it isn’t.
NIH- Are Lockdowns Effective in Managing Pandemics?
The price tag of lockdowns in terms of public health is high: by using the known connection between health and wealth, we estimate that lockdowns may claim 20 times more life years than they save. It is suggested therefore that a thorough cost-benefit analysis should be performed before imposing any lockdown for either COVID-19 or any future pandemic.
Those effing jokers NOW think of checking their theories, after they had thrown out well established, effective pandemic responses – AND treatments. Vile people they are who should be vomited upon. Grrr.
Well these two could well be among the many experts who were completely ignored by government. I know I have been saying since the beginning none of this made any sense but no one asked me and no one listened to me. I wrote to government, to the media, to public health and I as one of the signatories to the great Barrington Declaration. What else can “they” have done?
True. Many people with relevant expertise have been stonewalled, de-platformed and censored during the last 2.5 years.
I believe there’s a societal-wide global reckoning coming, and whatever form it takes, it’s probably gonna be fairly ugly. It will also change forever the web of relationships between billions of individuals in the Western world, and make us a smaller, uglier society going forward.
Given what has happened it needs to be uglier, a lot uglier.
There’s also this
https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf
I said this right at the beginning. There was ZERO cost benefit analysis done. It was pure panic and herd reaction by the public health officials and politicians, supported by a media trolling for clicks and eyeballs.
During covid, before twitter banned me, again, I twitter pestered the fool Jason Kenney, his equally idiotic sidekicks Tyler Shandro, health minister, and Deena Hinshaw, chief medical officer. I repeatedly demanded, asked, begged for them to reveal their cost benefit numbers, or to do one ASAP if they didn’t have one.
In the end, nothing, and I’m convinced those three are honestly so stupid they don’t know what a cost-benefit analysis is, or a comparative risk assessment or anything statistical at all.
I pointed out that the airlines were giving out free covid travel insurance, the point being that insurance company actuarians did do the analyses and those clever math wizards concluded that covid risk was low enough to provide cheap insurance to the airline industry.
Our political and civil service ‘elites’ are the stupid, lazy and ineffective people who couldn’t make it in private enterprise
Have you seen the latest about Deena Henshaw? Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedom has caught her perjuring herself. She told the courts she didn’t know about harm from masks but JCCF found memos and emails saying she knew about the harms and her primary consideration was actually about maintaining public health authority and having people wear constant reminders about the dire emergency on their faces.
https://www.jccf.ca/new-court-application-alleges-dr-deena-hinshaw-withheld-information/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Unfortunately she will not be punished for her perjury.
Nope.
There were cost/benefit analyses done on lockdowns before Covid.
Every country did them and they all rejected lockdowns as part of a future pandemic response.
And when Covid hit they imposed lockdowns.
It isn’t that they didn’t know the damage and dangers of lockdowns.
They did know and they imposed lockdowns anyway.
Remember when the hundreds of doctors who signed the Great Barrington Declaration that predicted these risk were mocked and had their social media presence blocked for spreading “disinformation?” I do. And this is part of the reason I will never trust the experts again.
I remember too, Iowebowski. It took me 6 weeks from initial fear to complete rejection of the fear-mongering.
Remember the Diamond Princess? Clearly, thought I, to myself, it is not nearly as scary and dangerous as we are being led to believe.
Robert of O,
” It took me 6 weeks from initial fear to complete rejection of the fear-mongering. ”
I can honestly say the fear porn never got to me. I did at first believe covid was real, but soon cottoned on to what they were doing. I only ever wore a mask in stores, figuring it was stupid but it was their store and my choice to enter or not, so I played by their rules inside their stores. What I found mind boggling, was how easy the fear was able to manipulate the masses. It’s been said the elite trash consider us to be cattle, well we certainly seem to be a herd, and easily panicked.
Yup.
I did some research and figured I should be more worried about the poorly tested ‘vaccines’ than about Covid.
And nothing that they told us made any logical sense and much of it was obvious lies.
The sheer idiocy of people telling us that we couldn’t question the science.
Robert … same here.
That and the Total BULLSHIT of Chinese Video being sent out by media…
Covsars2 does not nor did it ever exist.
RtPCR totally fraudulent “test”
IVM/HCQ worked on whatever it was people had: a Cold or bad flu….and was Fraudulently trashed.
All of it to usher in the supposed salvation of the planet…a stealth Bio Weapon with graphine Oxide, Living organisms, Polyethylene and God knows what else…and not everyone received the same shit…you could just as easily have gotten Saline…or, sadly, nanobots that replicate within.
It was always about the vaxx….
And continues to be so…fortified now with the advent of home test kits….which I damned well garantee would give you a POS result from eating a peanut butter sandwich ffs.
It’s (home kits), only purpose is to slyly push the Population into a daily test routine…such that it morphs into the grandest MASS OCD event ever…(always providing a POS result of course)….and in doing so, greasing the conveyor of never ending booster shots with likely far more deadly ingredients….
They….want us all dead
You mean never trust the “experts” again. And next time you hear some bozo call someone like Fauci or Tam the “top doctor”, run for the exits. They aren’t “top doctor”….they are bureaucrats….nothing more.
Public control, not safety.
I believe that is now obvious.
Manuscript “Received 2022 Jul 6; Accepted 2022 Jul 27.”
That’s a fast turn-around time for peer-review. Looks like some group of medical scientists feel the information is urgently needed for public discourse.
I wouldn’t fall for that “peer review” stuff, either. Peer review has now become PAL review. A bunch of people with similar views who simply review each others work and sprinkle their “holy water” on it.
Very true. Also peer review is being interfered with. Elseivier is not the only one doing it but they are doing it. Senior admin types in the upper echelons are reaching down and retracting certain articles over the objections of the editors of the journal, the peer reviewers and the authors. So even when peer review is not pal review it can be corrupted.
Formal advice was given to the British Parliament that attempting to prevent C19 spread by lockdown would cost 9 lives for every one that it saved.
PeterW @ 5.51, do you have a link for that please?
I know that only one person, Jesse Norman MP asked the question “has there been a cost benefit analysis done” at the COBR meeting chaired by Gove when lockdown was announced. The answer came back “No”, but as Stan @ 4.13 above says, every country had a pandemic plan for the exact circumstances of covid but they threw it in the bin.
Lamposts and piano wire.
In 1922, the Manitoba College of Physicians and Surgeons created a report on the handling of the Spanish Flu. The main take away from this report was that the mandated curfews, masks and lockdowns were not just ineffective, they materially added to the problem. When this was pointed out, crickets. The better educated more modern “scientists” were (and are) in control.