Safe And Effective ®

The missing piece: Deep concern that vaccines may have serious side effects that will emerge over time.

However, if near 100% vaccination can be achieved — including those who have been naturally infected and recovered — there’s no control group with which to compare data on outcomes.

Absent a control group, vaccine injury can be blamed on Covid infection.

Your Welcome.

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  1. I remember being immediately seized with this idea when they said they wanted to vaccinate everyone. That would leave no control group on an experiment using new technology on a wide swath of humanity! Then, of course, compliance was soon no longer voluntary but coercive which made me more determined than ever to remain part of whatever small control group was able to resist the psychological warfare that was waged against the vaxx-free.

    1. They have desired our demise for at least as long as I’ve been Alive….

      One could sense by Feb 2020, things were not adding up, that sense grew by leaps n bounds…and particularly upon the advent of a 7 month wonder Potion, one predicated upon a BS test procedure, and the Fraudulent trashing of HCQ and year later IVM.

      Showing in Crystal clarity how beyond Indoctrinated the majority were in allowing this shit to be injected into them without so much as an inkling of curiosity or skepticism….unreal.

      If what I fear will happen, I’m about to lose both my daughter’s and the majority of my family…in due time.

      If any of that happens, it will be time to take out a few of the Scumbags that made it happen….ins’halla

      A Promise..fking bet on it.

    2. Right there with you. Now, let’s put up a challenge: how many Pfizer shots have been delivered in China? And in India? Or to the couple million of diversity additions to the US via southern border? Yep!

    3. Check out ‘Blood Clots in the Vaccinated’ from yesterday’s Safe and Effective post. If true, it’s horrifying!

      1. Nothing to see there. Just mandate cremation. Gretans say 2 square metres after you leave is too big a burden for Gaia.

  2. You mean lying about it won’t work in this one instance? It has worked with everything else.

    But seriously, non-acceptance of (injections) “vaccines” is already fairly resistant now at the 15-20 per cent level. They aren’t going to coerce every last person to get vaccinated. Non-uptake (their term) of boosters is even higher. That indicates to me that coercion is the main tool, since you don’t always need the boosters to get the passports. Also it indicates perhaps that some double-vaxxed individuals are saying, “hey this didn’t do much for me, and cousin Roger (that’s me) is unvaxxed and healthy as a goat, so maybe …”

    Yes, maybe you were duped, cuz. Not the first time, thought you’d be used to it by now.

    1. I suspect more people are waking up to what is going on. There are many I know who got sucked into the vax, have gotten two doses and have said they can shove any boosters up their ass.

        1. Many of the people who I talk to agree they’ve been pushed too far.
          Thanks for reposting this from the interwebs a few days ago Art.

          The most terrifying vengeance comes from the hands of men who wanted to be left alone.
          They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know, that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the men who just wanted to be left alone.

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      1. Most people got vaxxed at the first sign of mild inconvenience.

        “I’m not taking the vax! It’s big pharma experimental chemical poison! Oh what? I can’t go to Mexico for vacation? Yeah okay I’ll take the shot. But not my kids! Never! What’s that? My 11 year old can’t play hockey without it? Yeah okay I’ll get him vaxxed. But I’m not happy about it!”

          1. Have always been here,but tried to have some optimism.
            As we are being assaulted by fools and bandits.
            Consequently their best laid plans are idiocy and greed.
            We are now at the banality of evil stage,where unthinking minions piss and crap in their own nests..And will later complain about the smell and feel of their lives.
            Can’t cure stupid.
            We can separate ourselves from the worst.
            Or drive them from amongst us.
            I favour the latter,starting with all on the public payrolls.
            Banish them to ????,preferably some remote place ,or place a bounty on their heads..
            Which seems very fair as they have done so ,to all taxpayers,already.
            History indicates the need for a cull,about every 80 years.

            So even sharing your well earned wisdom,we have had to wait.
            For unlike our Progressive Comrades,I cannot read minds and object to the idea of punishing individuals for “Future crimes”.
            Today we are seeing these criminals act.
            For these acts we can righteously reward them.

  3. Nothing about this, since about May 2020, when the risk profile for COVID-19 had become evident, has been rational.

    Nevertheless, the control group for this “vaccination” experiment is the prior 50 years of medical data. Like the NOAA’s climate data, that will now be folded, spindled and mutilated to conform to the preconceived political narrative … er, sorry, Officer Jackboot, I mean of course “The Science”. Don’t trample me.

    1. Exactly right. NOAA destroys historic temperature records at the behest of the Climate Industrial Complex. This will be no different.

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    1. True. And I’m sure billions all through Asia are also unvaxxed.

      It’s highly probably the government in the US has lied about the vaccinations figures. So I’d guess at least 1/3 of all Americans or roughly 100 million are unvaxxed. Far more than that are probably “not fully” vaxxed and will never be.

      When you add the possible numbers of unvaxxed, I’m confident it’s well into the majority of the world population. Canada is exceptional in having a very high vaxx rate. One of the highest in the world. That tells you all you need to know about the stupid in this country. Idiocracy.

      The unvaxxed will inherit the earth. Now if only we could get the global oligarchs like Castreau to get the real vaccine and not saline. Vaccine not saline, Justine!!!! And we’ll make you do some high-intensity reps afterwards to confirm you’ve got the myocarditis and pericarditis to prove it.

      1. I think thats why they are full on nazi at the rest who don’t want it. They feel like they have been put in danger and are pissy about being conned!.. It’s torn my family apart. My sons mom won’t talk to him.

      2. Old n worn

        There’s days I feel that way too…lol, especially the hands…worked with em all my life.

        Canadians have been led down the garden path for over 70 yrs….slowly STUPIFIED…WE now reap the results… incredible, that so many would rush towards a bio weapon…

        I blame one entity: Govt Paid Propagandists.

        1. Hi, Stilgar…

          I blame one entity: Govt Paid Propagandists.

          You’re right. Unfortunately, that covers a lot of people in Canada. So many people on the government payroll, directly but also indirectly. And they’ll all shill for their paymaster.

          Everyone mentions Trudeau’s 600 mil or whatever the figure is that he bought the corporate media with. That’s all true, of course, but I don’t hear a lot of mention about all the millions that the governments are spending on advertising on all corporate networks and social media platforms.

          The media buys across this country have got to be massive. My free cribbage game on my iPad has advertising at the bottom of the board. It’s almost always telling me to get my vaxx. That’s the Kenny government haranguing me there. I don’t watch TV, but she who must be obeyed has the idiot box on constantly. I can hear the g-damned Trudeau Regime jingle they play after every paid propaganda announcement. And it seems that jingle’s going almost all the time.

          The country’s been transformed into the Soviet Union with its ubiquitous Pravda, and Tass, and Izvestia propaganda organs. You think the networks are going to want to lose all that easy cash? I guess when you’ve got an unlimited printing press, you can print enough money to buy anyone and anything you want. And the regimes across this Idiocracy have done it.

          1. ” I can hear the g-damned Trudeau Regime jingle they play after every paid propaganda announcement.”

            If I miss muting the box when one of those ads are on, I take great pleasure in singing along with said jingle, “Fuck…Justin Trudeau”. Try it! It fits perfectly and soothes the savage beast. 🙂

      3. There was an article from Minneapolis saying restaurant business was down 40% since they implemented vaxx passports. Yet 80% or so is supposedly vaccinated. So yeah, likely some number fudging going on.

        1. It’s Minneapolis, they have big issues after the riots and they defunded the police.

      4. Sadly everyone keeps calling the shots something they are not, “vaccines”. Gene therapy as stated by the big pharma is not a “vaccine”.

    2. Yeah, except you want the control groups to be as close as possible to the trial group in order to try to keep other variables out of the equation.

    1. But a lot of the developing world is taking OTC ivermectin to fight it, so who’s it culling?
      These excessive deaths of 2 parents are also creating new taxes for the USG. The law changed on inherited IRAs in 2020. Unless you’re the spouse or disabled and you inherit an IRA, you have to drain it all in 10 years. That’s big $$.

  4. It’s not necessary to be the mirror image of the wide eyed monthly booster cult. Vaccination should be respected as a personal decision based on that individuals risk tolerance and health status. The mandates and division are the issue. if you’re railing on about it being a world wide slow motion euthanasia scheme, you’ve lost the plot. Try to pick rational ground to stake your position on.

    1. if you’re railing on about it being a world wide slow motion euthanasia scheme, you’ve lost the plot.

      I think there’s more than just one plot in this complex narrative, but I don’t think euthanasia is among them.

      1. “euthanasia is among them.”

        Tell that to the old folks in the nursing homes.
        Oh that’s right, you cant, cause they be dead.
        Remember, you will be old one day too.
        Saving the State big health care dollars, one geriatric at a time.

        1. Remember, you will be old one day too.

          I don’t have to remember, I’m experiencing old age in the here and now.

          The majority of the early Covid death spikes, in places like New York state and Quebec, were mostly, as you say, old people in nursing homes or similar facilities. Their deaths were not caused by the vaxx, it hadn’t been rolled out that early. Their deaths were caused by the criminal neglect of the nursing staff, who panicked at the hysterical government propanganda. Many of the helpless victims of this dereliction died from dehydration. Of course, the deaths were blamed exclusively on “Covid”. Covid has been a government head fake from the beginning, starting with China and the videos of people collapsing dead on the streets. Remember those? There has always been an element of the general population that is prone to hysterical hypochondria and medical neurosis, (many who are attracted to the “health” professions are also susceptible), and The Covid Narrative has opportunistically exploited this human defect.

          I object to the use of the word euthanasia to describe what is going on here as a partial explanation of the general madness. The “eu” in the word is a prefix that means “good”. Euthanasia is “good death” or used as a synonym for “mercy killing”. There is nothing good about the unnecessary deaths of otherwise healthy people from either wilful ignorance or malign intentions.

          Kate is well aware of the Malthusian beliefs, sometimes referred to by the elite class as “eugenics”, (there’s that “eu” prefix again where it ought not to be). These elites have always wanted to reduce global population and rid the world of the “useless eaters”. Kate is very familiar with her fellow Saskatchewanian “Tommy” Douglas and his M.A. thesis at the University of Toronto, in which Tommy discourses all about population control and “eugenics”.

          Tommy is in good company. We all know about Margaret Sanger, Bill Gates, the Fabian Society (GBS, Bertrand Russell, the Huxleys), Yuval Harari & the Davos set, et al.

          Anyone who doesn’t account for evil (but purposeful) intentions in this catastrophe is deluding himself that he sees the whole picture.

    2. “Try to pick rational ground to stake your position on.”

      Just like the gov’t has. Right? Oh, I know: be better than the gov’t. Right?

      The gov’t has never been “rational” about this. Sure, in that smooth, hypnotic, psy-ops voice they have, but the second one shook their head, pulled back & saw the big picture, yeah, not so much anymore.

      Take a look at how far we’ve traveled in the last two years, from “Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve” to “Handicapped Woman Trampled by Armed Horseman at Peaceful Anti-Mandate Protest After Emergency Measures Act Implemented”. Holy hell! Some of us have been predicting this sort of thing from the start and we were called, [snort] irrational!

      Now, getting back to your observation on euthanasia, I honestly do not see see it as being out of hand. Never have. The first rule of gov’t is to never trust the gov’t. Throw in the Great Reset, the New World Order, WEF, etc., etc., etc., and here we are today. QED.

    3. The problem is Kate we don’t really know. Insurance companies are making some terrifying findings and are altering their paper to reflect suspected coming problems.

    4. “if you’re railing on about it being a world wide slow motion euthanasia scheme, you’ve lost the plot. Try to pick rational ground to stake your position on.”

      Ironic, considering you yourself indulge in entirely speculatively, irrational conspiracy-mongering in this post.

    5. Kate
      There is better information out there worth sharing and I clearly see how many of your readers lose the plot because of that information.
      My take….for what it is worth.

      The heavily mutated Omicron variant is really good at immune escape.
      I expect a mucosal vaccine to boost the previous MRNA series shortly or a new vaccine that is wider encompassing . Likely a viral vector….several in the works.
      The current MRNA vaccines were exceptional at preventing infection and offering protection from serious illness. It appears that Operation Warp speed put all of their eggs in one basket tho.
      The set up to manufacture MRNA was costly and time consuming. The most critical issue was timing…..many died because it took longer to get the MRNA vaccines out to the public.
      Further ….the cost and distribution requirement of the said vaccines has created a problem for world wide distribution.
      Although the Republicans do not like Dr. Peter Hotez…..he has developed a patent free vaccine currently manufactured in India that will assist in vaccinating many parts of the world.
      Until that is done we will be continuing on with waves of different variants…..more illness and death.
      What I expect and what you are seeing in S Africa are many deaths post infection recovery.
      Omicron is mild….sure but the issue was not the virulence of the strain but the intensity of the post viral immune cascade. Covid attacks the inner wall of the vascular system….the endothelium which runs throughout the body. Lots of bad news coming that has zero to do with MRNA vaccines but issues post recovery from the virus.

    6. Come on Kate. These shots are killer shots. The only folks that should take a chance are folks waiting to die in an old folks home or someone who has many comorbidities. Some one has to protect the healthy stupid from taking these shots. On the other hand there may be a benefit in culling the herd.

  5. They have never isolated the virus worldwide, this came out in the first quarter of 2020 and continued until today.

    Corona Investigative Committee

    Session 92: Of the Big and the Small

    1. More BS. It was isolated in January 2020. It’s literally impossible to come up with a PCR test without isolating the genetic material first.

      A few badly worded FOIA requests doesn’t prove your point.

  6. Look carefully at the novavaxx announcements in the news. They all claim 90% effective just like all the other ones when they first came out. They don’t even bother to update and say against the first variant of covid which even then was bunk. Theressa Tam parroted that absolute bullshit today too btw.

      1. I won’t get jabbed by anything, nor ingest anything.
        The campaign of fear mongering has too many people in thrall.
        Pharma peddles a plethora of harmful “cures.”
        Mood altering drugs screw people up.
        Vaccines and non vaccines do not work.
        Immune systems bolstered by nourishment are the natural way.
        Minds and hearts bolstered by love and truth flourish.
        Fear and anger and stress are killers.

      2. Remember Linda, IT IS STILL EXPERIMENTAL.

        The wonder jabs were also promoted as the latest greatest snake oil, preventing illness and disease, preventing hospitalization, preventing death.

        None of that turned out to be true. So, what is the urge to HURRY HURRY? To sit in a bar or restaurant? Seriously? We are at the tail end of the Covid scourge, and unless you have some co-morbidity seriously affecting your health, DON’T DO IT.

        Bolster your immune system with the Vitamin/supplement mixes many of us have quoted here. It works, very well.

        By this time in the Covidiot era, why would anybody believe one damn thing the media or any government “official” says? Don’t buy the propaganda, not one sentence, not one phrase! Be strong in character, be strong in faith, be strong in principles. We are surrounded by people that have little of those qualities, and will suffer accordingly

  7. Justice Mark T Pittman did the world a favour by ordering the FOIA release of FDA data on Pfizer all 450,000 pages of it. All at rate of 55,000 pages per month. Thus the FDA/Pfizer cabal could not bury their jigged up data for the requested 75 years (at 500 pages/mth) after we are all dead!

    https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/gdvzykdllpw/Pittman%20FOIA%20Order.pdf

    So if the FDA/Pfizer cabal were trying to hide something the jig will be up at the end of April 2022.
    This effectively shows why the fascist regime wants everyone vaccinated, because the death rates are going up among the vaxxed.
    Nuremberg 2.0 is too much for them so they send in the police troops to “crack the resistance”.

    Of course the horse shyte they are spreading via the mounted troop charge; you can be assured is mirrored in their crap data sets.

    Justin The Far Less Than Magnificent True Dopen Minister is making nothing less than some serious coin on this crap.
    Why else would he be juicing for “Jabs über ALLES” if the cabal that supports him weren’t making $$$?

    All that lipid nanoparticle tech patents come out of UBC and the $patent$ funds for every jab goes $klink$klink$ to shareholders.
    https://science.ubc.ca/news/ubc-grown-biotech-leads-global-pandemic-efforts#:~:text=A%20key%20component%20of%20the,vaccine%20was%20developed%20at%20UBC.&text=Acuitas%20Therapeutics%2C%20a%20UBC%20spin,vaccine%20to%20enter%20human%20cells.

    And if the fascists can’t make money by forcibly flogging “jabs for eternity”; they’ll just come and steal your bank account.
    Charter of Rights Freedoms be damned or flushed down the nearest toilet.

    Cheers

    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

    1. It certainly explains why all the big wigs at the not-vaccine makers are cashing out and the stonks are cratering.

  8. Thank you Kate. Not only does this seem to be the most logical conclusion, but it is what RFK Jr. says has been done repeatedly in the past by Fauci, Gates and the Big Pharma drug mixers (eliminating the control group to destroy evidence and escaping liability in the U.S. by getting mandates for children).

    1. Pfizer walked away from India wanting its own vaccine trials for the children instead of accepting Pfizer’s reason, well the US and Germany approved it and as of last week Pfizer suspended or was having trouble with the vaccines for six months to five years old so they stopped that thanks small dead animals for pointing that out.

    2. “Not only does this seem to be the most logical conclusion…”

      Christian, logic, like Elvis, left building more than 2 years ago.

  9. Japan put a myocarditis warning on the vax.

    People talk and people notice young healthy males especially in high school having heart issues or dying.

    People of a certain age seem to die within 2 weeks of the 2nd jab.

    We haven’t even begun to count up the still births and infertility issues coming up and if certain cancer counts start to rise. Britain has a rise in AIDS in young heterosexuals. This might be because of the lockdown or it might not.

    They seem to be trying to hide this stuff.

  10. “Absent a control group, vaccine injury can be blamed on Covid infection.”

    Case in point: On the local CBC morning radio, in an interview with a Doctor updating the Covid file he stated, to the effect, that they were seeing, over the longer term, heart problems resulting from Covid (not from Covid vaccines). So even if you thought you might not be susceptible to the initial risks from Covid you should still get vaccinated as you my later get heart problems. So are they tracking vaccinated vs non, with previous Covid, and later heart problems? That stat is essential.

  11. Malice is spot on. Flags go up anytime someone cajoles, lures, bribes, threatens and will ostracize you to injest something because they insist it’s good for you.
    The product should sell itself…it hasn’t.
    Not to mention how a billionaire with a face like a catcher’s mitt who got rich making shitty software and has stated numerous times how the world is overpopulated suddenly takes a keen interest in saving my life.
    Both instances aren’t adding up.

    I’m working on a “kill switch” hypothesis. Never underestimate the horrors psychopaths are willing to unleash on the rest of us.
    History is littered with them.

  12. Apropos of not much, or maybe a lot. When Malone et al raised serious concerns about safety, I paid attention whenever I heard a new and seemingly informed source of info, and did some digging and read some pretty boring stuff. When Edward Dowd came along and tied some financial aspects together, he was speaking my language so easier to grasp. I am sorry for the following but will go into a bit of detail. This is not financial advice, yada, yada CYA.
    When I decided to try to make money from this, I spent an initial $20,000 on puts. These are options contracts which allow you the right to sell or “put” the stock on another party at a specified price (strike) on or before a date at which time the right expires. I bought all out of the money options, meaning the stock was valued higher than the strike, so technically worthless at the time I bought them. I also chose options with over a year to go at the time, they expire on January 20, 2023. In order for me to make money, the stocks need to dip in price considerably by then. In order to buy options someone has to sell (write) them, and since the market is small out at those times, they charge a premium to do so. The market at these seemingly obscure prices is not as small now, and I am up over 20% in the 6 weeks since I bought them. As an example, the Moderna puts have an average strike of $40USD, stock is at $141 or so, but was at $170 when I bought. Moderna is a one trick pony, the vax is all they have, if the crap really hits the fan they go to functionally $0. I got lucky with Pfizer, and picked up the first tranche at a strike of $45 on a then $54 share price. It is $49 now, probably can recover entire $20K on those just on the looming bear market, so a nice safety valve. I picked up the rest at $35 strike. Pfizer is a bigger (X10) company than Moderna, with other products so it going to $0 is less likely, but $10 is a good possibility if the crap hits the fan. If there turns out to be knowing malfeasance on the part of these companies, the safe harbour from litigation in the US goes away, April should be interesting. Probably be delayed by an army of Pfizer lawyers which is why I chose Jan 2023, instead of sooner. If there is malfeasance, well….lets just say I’ll have a good day.

    Bottom line, the market is moving, just like elections, money is ruthlessly efficient at predicting the future, some people know some things and are acting, too much action on these obscure options for normal market making.

  13. Your government wants you dead. This is entirely consistent with government’s belief in global warming caused by CO2. What better way to reduce CO2 than to reduce the number of carbon emitters? In addition, your government wants your money. With you dead, they can latch on to at least some of it.
    The priority of socialist societies has always been to reduce the population they rule over, especially those who are capable of independent thought. The vaccines are merely a more clever way of achieving this end compared to the more direct methods their predecessors used.

  14. From the get go once they announced magical vaccines were coming I thought oh oh-how much did big pharma donate to liberal causes alala social justice and climate extremism? I think if we follow the money the truth will be out in the open for all to see-it was never about the virus it was about money and controlling our bodies under the guise of healthcare.

  15. The drug rollout got a good start last January. I watched Hank Aaron get the shot on Fox news right after New Years. He was happy to be a shining example for all the world to see. If Hank does it, it has to be safe.

    Two weeks later Hank was dead. Not vaccine related they said. He just didn’t wake up one day.

    That’s when I decided to remain a pureblood. Hasn’t killed me yet.

  16. The actuarial stats from insurance companies will be difficult to hide, although I’m sure they’ll try. I’ve read that the increase of deaths in young, working age adults is a 1 in 200 year event. Far too high to be a coincidence. Getting rid of the unvaccinated control certainly makes hiding those stats easier unless the Pfizer trial data release confirms that vaccines did show unacceptably high risks of adverse effects in younger age groups. Besides those who are still unvaccinated weren’t broken after a year of intense discrimination and segregation so I doubt they’ll change their mind now, making it all but impossible to get rid of the control group.

    At this point, I think any new mandates or restrictions are just the last kick at the cat to enrich pharmaceutical companies who then “redistribute” the windfall in various kickback schemes. We must also never forget that ego and pride won’t let people admit they might have been wrong…which turned into an obsession to punish those stayed firm on defending their human right to bodily and medical autonomy.

  17. As a follow up : I’m seeing more videos of blood slides under a microscope that show significant differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated blood. These types of videos have popped up now and again over the last year but I’m noticing an increase. Their value is questionable because they aren’t verified by studies but they’re also difficult to ignore once you’ve seen them.

    There is lots of odd fibers, slow movement, blood cells sticking together and bacterial infections. I would think massive differences in the blood slides of the vaccinated and unvaccinated would be easy to confirm or debunk but I’m not even seeing “fact checkers” touching this one.

  18. The logical idiocy? Of stating that the Magic Vaccines,produced (According to the State) in an amazingly short time,for a virus of the Common Cold family,for which previously we were told,there is no cure ,because said virus family mutates so swiftly..
    Given immunity from responsibility,the manufacturers of the goo,told us they would have “long term data” some time in 2023?

    Meanwhile politician and bureaucrat alike parroted the line.
    “Vaccine perfectly safe,with no long term side effect”.
    Something they could not know.
    If their previous statements were true, officialdom could not possibly know the long term effects,of these “Emergency Vaccines”.

    Yet they felt they could reassure the doubtful,by making such proclamations with great confidence..
    These emperors are naked,fat and ugly.
    But worse,they are either agenda driven evil or gullible beyond all belief.
    Either way,do you still want to share a civil society with such monsters.?

  19. “The mandates and division are the issue”
    It’s only half of the equation. The other half is why the insistence on something so intrusive as a vaccine. Why now…to what end and who stands to benefit the most? Ain’t looking too much like me at this point.

    “if you’re railing on about it being a world wide slow motion euthanasia scheme, you’ve lost the plot. Try to pick rational ground to stake your position on.”

    Euthanasia, mass murder and total power over the masses isn’t exactly uncharted territory on planet Earth. My internal flags wouldn’t trip if it was only a handful of countries but this is just too much worldwide choreographing and a little too much secrecy for my liking to think they’re all Mother Theresa like bureaucrats who’ve taken an interest in my health.

    That said…if you’d like me to couch my language in “engineer speak” not unlike – your house appears to be undergoing rapid disassembly due to higher than normal internal temperatures. I guess I can do that as well.

    1. I think you and most of us on here who share similar perspectives are quite confident of our rationality, and we can be rightly dismissive of advice that distracts from analysis of the actual issues.

    1. Go f$$k yourself. North Americans demand pharmaceuticals for every malady so Trump had no choice but to launch Operation Warp Speed for Big Pharma to rake in the billions.

    2. Hey Alan S, a better question is, DO YOU? Politics aside did you take it or no? If you did then you didn’t let your feelings for Trump interfere with your discision. Dont criticize others for not allowing their position on Trump to interfere with their taking the jab or not.
      Cheap shots are just that. At this point, one’s views on Trump are not important. I suspect you have a brain in spite of what others may think. Use it for better things.

      1. To answer your question, we would be in much worse shape without the vaccines. Think, tighter restrictions AND more deaths.

        1. Appreciate the answer. Have to say that the 99% recovery from covid hasn’t changed much pre jab or post jab. Still the most vulnerable affected, the elderly or those with multiple co- morbidity. We are only beginning to find out longer term problems with the shots as new knowledge comes to light. I am hoping for the best but the news lately from the insurance companies isn’t reassuring for my sons age groups. Time will tell.

        2. I think you would gave a hard time proving that, Alan. The ABSOLUTE effectiveness of the vaccines has always been only 1%. That does not do much.

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