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    2. All of it, every bit of it, is raw data that ebbs and flows with tests not covid, because hospitalizations and deaths are mixed in with every positive test unrelated to covid, the telltale “with,” not “of” covid. Cases are by far the worst representation of the current endemic.

      Bottom line: if you are a vulnerable, aged for instance, and or obese/diabetic, if you’re vaccinated and get infected you’ve a much better chance of recovery. For now that is, because protection along with immunity will certainly wane, even with jabs and boosters.

      Given about 90% of the vulnerable population is double jabbed, the unvaccinated are subjecting themselves to the prospect of a bad cold, notwithstanding the hopeful anecdotes of first graders on ventilators or Aunt Jennie sick in bed with covid, we should be done here. Instead they will wage war on the unvaccinated, while decimating commerce and health care to add to the long casualty list that includes restaurants, bars, health clubs, tourism. Like a bad day trader, they don’t know when to get in or when to get out.

      Except they’re gambling with our money. It’s our bank they’ll break. They’re all on full pay throughout this inexorable social ordeal.
      Our risk is their reward. 1 dead per 10 million per population per day is too big a risk to take in their self-interest addled minds.
      At the end of the day, we will do ourselves what we have done throughout this debacle; live with covid; just ask the oligarchs.

      The real question is: can we live with big, bad government that overreaches in all directions, causing problems they claim to solve?

  2. Ontario website – “Due to technical difficulties, the case rate by vaccination status by age group is not available”

    What would those difficulties be, hmm? Could they actually be due to reality diverging from the narrative (safe & effective) by such a wide margin, they don’t dare reveal the truth, lest even the dumbest pro-!vaxxers wake up and realize they’ve been conned at best and face a lifetime of health issues at worst (if they don’t die from the next booster).

    1. I’m just glad they have continued to show “COVID-19 cases by vaccination status” which is per 100,000. It is telling in itself. I’ve been keeping an eye on it for weeks.

      Vaccinated: 73.08 per 100,000
      Partially vaccinated: 42.20 per 100,000
      Unvaccinated: 55.55 per 100,000

      In Alberta they allow under twelves into the ‘cases’ but then exclude them from the denominator, so there is some deliberate manipulation there. If you work the numbers out yourself, however, Alberta has a similar situation to Ontario.

    2. In the region I live in the numbers have been unavailable for technical reasons. A phone and a pencil and paper would get the job done in 15 minutes. We’ve fluctuated between 1 and 2 people in ICU for months.

      I’m certain obtaining the numbers isn’t where the difficulty lies.

  3. For ON I’d really like to see the ICU and Hospitalizations per 100,000 or per 1,000,000…some kind of comparative rate rather than absolute #’s.

    1. We all would. That’s exactly why the case rate by vaccination status is experiencing “technical difficulties”.

      2. Heres an example of the genius level brain power at Sask Health.
        Yesterday it was news that Premier Moe tests positive for covid.
        https://www.thecountersignal.com/news/saskatchewan-premier-tests-positive-two-weeks-after-booster
        Today, the spin….
        Saskatchewan premier Scott Moe gets COVID-19 after removing mask at news conference.
        https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/saskatchewan-premier-scott-moe-tests-positive-for-covid-19-no-symptoms?__vfz=medium%3Dstandalone_content_recirculation_with_ads
        So now they want to punish Sask citizens for the failure of their vaccine program.

  4. Well, today Bullshit Bonnie made an interesting admission.

    She said that the modelling they use and create, IS ALWAYS WRONG.

    “BUT ITS VERY USEFUL DESPITE THAT!”

    Useful to deceive the public and produce propaganda, that is. She’s still clinging to “the unvaxxed are more likely to catch Omi than the vaxxed”. Real world data says Bonnie is a Lying SNAKE!

    1. Yeah, now that they got paid, they’re getting nervous. They know, we know. We know, they know, we know. The repitious mantra coming out of their foul mouths is unbelievable as they double down, “clinging” even harder and more often. They’ll fake their own deaths, get a face job and disappear soon one day, never to be heard from again.

      (Friends when the sick come crying to you, “don’t say, I told you so” … it ain’t worth it, they’ll read it in your voice or on your face. Pray for them)

      1. Nancy,
        Well said. The only thing I take issue with in your statement is that they would FAKE their deaths. I would far prefer that they stay REAL on that sword, if you get my less than subtle drift. And I know you do.
        PS… I always appreciate your thoughts on Kate’s righteous site. Have a nice day, eh?

    2. I’m a programmer and I’ve looked at the modelling software’s source code and it’s absolute garbage. We’ve known this since the beginning.

    3. I get the sense that she’s desperately looking for an “off-ramp”.
      She knows damn well that she’s screwed up a ton of lives and wrecked the economy and has to be worried that a much deserved reckoning his coming her way.

  5. Vaccinated, unvaccinated, schmaccinated. The jabs are distilled water. Effective vaccines do not exist, safe or otherwise. Nobody was ever vaccinated. Nobody ever will be.

    Thanks to Chairman Pooh Bear, Wuhan flu is now like puberty. You’ll have to go through it, whether you’re prepared for it or not.

    Among the grownups who insisted on living normal lives, and who were not prevented by the authorities from doing so, Wuhan flu has done all the damage it’s going to. For us, it’s over, or close to it.

    Omicron is only seriously affecting those childish souls who thought that the plague would only carry off those awful people who believe in the God of the Jews and support Donald Trump.

    I’d say they’re owed a good hard spanking. Maybe after that they’ll listen to what grownups have to say instead of calling us misogynists and racists.

    If they survive that is.

    1. I like the awful truth.
      I choked on my whiskey reading that, right there.
      Hey, get this…some teachers in Armstrong BC refused to attend class because too many kids have mask exemptions. So, said Karen teachers, who are of course vaxxed, staxxed and progressively taxed, have ran off screaming to their safe nunnery spaces.

  7. A pop up in The Herald link says “Covid acting unusual as it’s not following the rules.”

    Covid Makes it’s OWN rules, bitchez!

  8. I’m double vaxxed and in early days after the second jab I was cocksure and careless.

    I’m guessing that’s why double vaxxed case counts are now higher.

    Even so, I hope to catch Omicron sooner rather than later. Get it the hell over with.

  9. The best excerpt…
    “Although individuals may not develop symptoms of COVID-19 after vaccination, it is possible that they could still be infected with the virus and could transmit to others. “

      1. Our media is such a farce:

        “Saskatchewan premier Scott Moe gets COVID-19 after removing mask at news conference”

  11. I recently wrote about my sister who’s in Florida for the Season. While there she and boyfriendman -tennis- hotshot decided to get boosted. That ‘s 3+ a seasonal flu shot. Well…she’s fine, but…this…

    “He is not better. Trouble getting up, standing, weakness in legs, both arms. Is very sore, takes awhile to get walking. Has no strength in arms to help push up out of a chair.. Needs help to get dressed, etc. Went to a walk-in clinic. Doc thinks a reaction to Covid booster. Got pain meds muscle relaxants after the five days of pills, has to go back to Doctor again. She googled — From Web: may be functional neurological disorder after booster shot.”

    They didn’t listen. They were right. They wanted to travel. Well now the sh!t is hitting le snowblower!

    Stay cool, pureblood fiends — ya don’t need it all like Bogey and Bacall. Stay home, turn on the fireplace, get a blanket, set a spell, have a drink.

    Think: How are we ever going to get out of this?
    My mother was right, she said, “the government is not your friend.”
    She’d be rolling in her grave.

    1. So sorry to hear that, but we have SIL and BIL with the same mindset, now down in Palm S CA. Their boosters are soon, not wishing ill, but it could easily happen. Boom, there goes retirement instead of being patient and being wary of the ever changing narrative and the complete utter failure to follow long term testing and verification of “vaccines”.
      This is as slow motion of a train wreck as I would expect. Events keep slowly unfolding, as predicted by GVB and Yeadon. And the train wreck is only coming around the bend at this time, the disaster just lay ahead and everyone is ignoring the red flashing lights, still distracted by those rotten awful unvaxxed vermin!
      I’m concerned about what’s going to happen to my vaxxed friends and family, despite them shunning and cancelling us. Their fate is sealed.

      1. Yes, exactly, the stories about opposing family members — they’re the roughest to read about. The name calling makes one sick, like what Trudeau-dud did.

    2. Sorry to hear about your sister’s boyfriend.

      I’ve not delved into the source here, but have an interest in this because early onset Parkinson’s was suffered by my mom, and is suffered by my brother. I stumbled across this, so will post the part that I focused on. I have a good understanding of Parkinson’s and neurodegenerative disease research and this is not too ‘out there’ to be worthy of consideration. I live with a Covid vulnerable person, so did get double jabbed. It was with a lot of hesitancy because of exactly this, and also hope that this does not end out problematic..

      “As we will soon see, α-synuclein, the prion-like protein linked to Parkinson’s disease, also makes its way to the brain from the spleen along the vagus nerve. The mRNA vaccines set up perfect conditions in the spleen for the formation and distribution of conglomerates made up of misfolded α-synuclein, PrP and spike protein. . . . These spike proteins will act as seeds to cause α-synuclein and PrP to also misfold and form toxic oligomers together with the spike protein, which are released into the extracellular space as exosomes. These exosomes, released under the severe stress conditions induced by the vaccine, then carry prion proteins into the brain along the vagus nerve, to initiate prion diseases.”

      https://grandmageri422.me/2022/01/12/sars-cov-2-vaccine-and-neurodegenerative-disease/comment-page-1/

      1. Thanks for the detailed article. Personally, it looks like no shot is the best shot. Why keep getting these shots? They weren’t tested enough. One can usually recover from Covid-19 and its varients 99.8% of the time, according to the experts.

      2. Thank you. An informative link. Prion diseases are one of the risks we have been warned about. It is the kind thing that would hopefully be identified with longer- term testing which of course never happened with the Covid injections.

  12. And in Positively Ineffective news today Allan S tried to suck fake numbers out of Tim G’s arse.

  13. The Saskatchewan Health Authority and the University of Saskatchewan College of Medicine have killed a lot of people. The only tool they had to combat COVID was “meaningless intellect”. If those organizations rewarded Pioneering Spirit rather than A**kissing bureaucratic behavior we may have gotten some performance. People may have been saved.

    I realize many may feel these words are “harsh”. 2 years into this and there are no accomplishments from the Saskatchewan medical community. The true medical heroes were in the ICUs early on, fought COVID, got sick from it. Some died. Then the decision was made by the Saskatchewan Health Authority to fire any of those with natural immunity or vaccine hesitancy. The best were drummed out. The A**kissers moved in and started to whine/complain that the job was too difficult. The job now interfered with their TikTok dance videos.

    What ever happened to those nurses in BC or Alberta that tried to open their own clinic, only to see the Nazis shut them down? Those nurses are worth their weight in gold…

    Going forward, we know that vaccines don’t protect you. They rely on obsolete technology. Vaccine mandates kill the community and the community spirit. Think of the lives that could have been saved if Ivermectin were offered. Many of us simply got the veterinarian version (like the Alberta pharmacist) and followed the FLCCC.net protocols.

    Particle size/dispersion told you (from the outset) that masks weren’t going to work.

    I suspect Ivermectin use negates the mRNA technology incorporated into the COVID vaccines. Ivermectin is known to be a Beta Importin blocker. I suspect proper research would show that trait mucks up the ability of the mRNA delivery system.

    Today, Ivermectin could be rolled out to protect the vaccinated. It’s not going to hurt them. We know that.

    Will the Saskatchewan Health Authority and/or University of Saskatchewan College of Medicine promote that simple step? How many more people have to die?

    1. Beta blockers are used as standard blood pressure medication, and they haven’t been banned, so I don’t think that’s why. I think the reason they banned Ivermectin is simple. Big Pharma told them to so they could get the EUA.

    2. +++ T.O.Larry.
      Also there’s the
      – Sudafed/azithromiacin/zinc protocol from Spain – March 2020
      – Claritin/lactoferrin protocol reducing hospitalization by 99%
      – Zelenko protocol
      – Dr. Malones protocol using Famotidine (Pepcid) or Fluvoxamine for long covid.
      Instead all we’ve heard is Vitamin D and zinc are fake news (Christine Elliot)
      HCQ and Ivermectin are poisonous (yet over the counter in Mexico)
      And there’s nothing we can do for you. Its either the vaccine or intubation and likely death if you get severe, life threatening covid.

    3. Some bigwig high up in the Sask Health Authority resigned just before Christmas. There was no explanation given at the time. Is he one of the smart ones who can see what is coming? Best to get out early before the mob comes with the tar and pitchforks.

    1. The evidence strongly suggests that the vaccines are helping. They seem only mildly effective at preventing people from getting COVID, but they are very good at keep people out of the ICU.

        1. Okay…

          https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1046431/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-2-2022.pdf

          To quote:

          “Several studies of vaccine effectiveness have been conducted in the UK which indicate that 2 doses of vaccine are between 65 and 95% effective at preventing symptomatic disease with COVID-19 with the Delta variant, with higher levels of protection against severe disease including hospitalisation and death. There is some evidence of waning of protection against infection and symptomatic disease over time, though protection against severe disease remains high in most groups at least 5 months after the second dose.”

      2. The evidence shows otherwise. It’s not the vaccine that is keeping people out of the ICU…..it is the fact that Omicron is mild and that a large percentage of the population has natural immunity. Good God, morons who think there is only one variable in this equation shouldn’t be allowed near a computer.

          1. Nice try. The facts are simple…..people are dying at the same rate regardless of vax status. And that doesn’t even count those who have been killed OUTRIGHT by the “vaccines”. There is NO efficacy resulting from the “vaccines”, but MUCH risk.

            By all means, PLEASE head out and get yourself a couple of “life saving” boosters. I beg you.

          2. Happy Saturday Allen S, I knew you would be in this thread!

            RATES MEAN FUCK-ALL, IT IS THE NUMBERS ON THE GROUND, HOSPITALIZATION and ICU. Those are the numbers that mean something to me.
            Don’t start preaching about ABSOLUTE vs. RELATIVE RISK reduction they also mean SHIT to me.
            When you are in a WAR, you don’t care about what the projections or modelling shows, you should focus on what is going on that day / hour / minute!

            Don’t get me started on early treatment protocols either, as per your esteemed position they don’t exist or they don’t work!

            May be you could look into your crystal ball and give your projections for next flu season or the next SCARIANT???
            Have a great weekend!

        2. Yes, there are slightly more double vaccinated then unvaccinated people in the ICU.

          But about 80% of the total Ontario population is fully vaccinated, and among very old people — those most likely to be in the ICU — it’s about 95%.

          If vaccines were totally innert, those same percentages should be reflected in the ICU data. The unvaccinated should only be between 5% and 20% of the ICU. Instead they take up about 45%, showing that vaccines do protect against extreme symptoms.

          1. Allen S and Killer, think about this for a moment.
            Lets just say that in a perfect world 100% of the adult CANADIAN population was DOUBLE VAXXED!!!
            What would those numbers for hospitalization / ICU look like.
            Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

            RATES MEAN FA!

  15. We just came from a visit with our daughter and son-in-law. Both had Covid in September of 2020 plus their daughter and one of their sons . Both our daughter and son-in-law got the clot shots regardless of the fact that they would have natural immunity. I don’t know about our grand daughter but very likely as she lives with them . It is also possible they have had boosters,I dont know as they won’t share anything with us . We got into a discussion with them about the shots and were told that we deserve everything that is thrown at us ….the unvaxxed! We were totally unprepared for the vitriol and hate that spewed forth! They told us if we want to participate in society we can go get the shots ! They never even tried to understand out point on this subject. As a consequence we left as quickly as we could and returned home . My heart is broken but being a Christian I understand that in the latter days it will be “ daughter against mother ,son against father” I just never thought it would be us the scriptures spoke about !

    1. Well, you can give them life but you can’t live it for them.

      The man I wrote about at above post…will be 76 …
      http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/01/14/today-in-negative-efficacy/#comment-1563619

      It was his booster shot that started giving him problems. I’ll bet he is starting to have regrets. Know that your kids and grandkids will live their lives as they see fit as you too have the right to live yours as you choose. It’s sad but eventually we all die. Eventually this thing too, will end. I’d say your best bet is to be kind and keep in touch by phone or ZOOM and not bother to talk about COVID and the jab. Keep it light, it will help all.

      And good luck to you and all who read this.

    2. We’re in the same boat Eliza, our daughter has unpersoned us, and not allowing us to see our year and half old grandson, after babysitting for months. We haven’t had the argument, but I’ve got a few thousand words for her summed up like this.
      Ungrateful
      Blackhearted
      Brainwashed
      Naive
      Those are the nice words. Blew out our Christmas. Hope she enjoys living in baby daddy’s mom’s basement, forever. Nothing like getting all your science info from social media “friends”.
      I know one thing, she was so quick to make medical decisions “good for us”, that she will never get POA for us, and never get any assistance of any sort, EVER!
      Burnt my bridge, but my wife holds out a little hope.
      Baby daddy is dead to me. Pot smoking deadbeat.

    3. Eliza, your story is one that almost every Canadian family can relate to, unfortunately. This nasty negative treatment of family and friends, instead of being discouraged as a disgusting form of discrimination, has been cheered on by medical professionals, media types, politicians and even some religious people.

      I know that humans are capable of absolutely amazing things individually and collectively, but we can also be extremely wicked and evil. Each of us has a mirror in our homes, and we must look ourselves in the eye every morning. I know that the person looking at me in my mirror is no saint. I may never be able to forgive some of the public figures (media, medical “experts” and politicians) or even some of my family members; who went along whole heartedly, with this destructive narrative. These people have actively demonized a portion of the population who dared to question, research and endure all manor of abuse over the past 2 years. Pushing many of the young to drug/alcohol overdoses and even suicide.

      If these outliers, are/were such a threat to society, wouldn’t their evil selfish characters have been evident prior to this pandemic? No, prior to the past couple of years we loved and even respected these people, we valued them for their different opinions. The fear that has gripped a majority, it seems to me, has warped lazy weak minded people. They cannot admit that they have been deceived. The “vaccines” do not work. And yet they refuse to lay blame where it should rightly be laid. Why?

    4. What sad sad stories. I also sat with a woman last night who was despairing about her family fractures. I, as well, have suffered from the same fate.

      I find those that are sat before their TV all day, watch the over-emotional presentation of the “news” from sun up to well past sun down are, well, gone and just physical husks of the engaged, caring and loving people they were.

      I hope they come back one day.

  17. Following Project Veritas,publishing the Military report on Covid,the one that got “misfiled”,a fair question fo every agency of every government.
    “When did you know Ivermectin was a valid treatment for SARS 2?”
    Cause here we see a Government Alphabet Agency refusing to fund Gain of Function Research,yet already aware of which treatments effectively defeated the virus at that time..
    They knew.
    They knew all along.
    And even more damning,if they did in fact not know,then they admit utter incompetence.

    Help such as we have been recipients of,these last two years,must never go unrewarded.

    1. Had it months before I turned old. The original, not the new and improved, sniffles and bit of a sore throat version.
      Chills and a slight fever for four maybe five days.
      Didn’t even get my usual nagging cough after.
      Oh wait….I’m not a fat, out of shape, walking hypochondriac.

  19. I heard today, can’t recall the details, of the USA fed govt case against a medical company and such. Lawsuit, fines and so forth. Got me wondering about Merck and ivermectin. Perhaps Merck choose not to challenge the govt vaccine narrative as they know the power of regulators to tie up future product registrations and make life crappy. Pretty well any ill notion about govt bureaucrats I think is probably true

  20. Those graphs show a positive efficiecy.

    Why? Because it’s not enough to know the number of vaccinated and unvaccinated who have COVID. You have to compare that to the number of vaccinated and unvaccinated in the population as a whole.

    As an example, if 60% of the COVID cases over 80 are vaccinated, but 95% of the total population over 80 are vaccinated, then the vaccine is preventing COVID. Not perfectly but significantly.

    1. The jabs were touted as providing immunity. This they clearly do not do.
      Ivermectin is more effective at lowering ICU visits, deaths, and hospitalizations, so they banned it.
      They have been lying since the start.
      You choose to trust them, after all their lies, fine, fill yer boots, get your 4th jab.
      Even if they were 100% effective, that does not justify any kind of mandate, and they are clearly not effective at immunizing people.

      1. No vaccine can be 100% safe and effective. None.

        That’s because vaccines do not attack the pathogen directly, but rather induce people’s immune systems to produce antibodies to attack the pathogen. But everyone’s immune system is different, and some will not respond much, and some will overrespond.

        The vaccines were not designed specifically for the omicron strain, which is why they’re not terribly good at preventing infaction. What they’re very good at is preventing symptoms from becoming severe, keeing people out of the ICU.

        1. Fuck off. They said that you will not get covid if vaxxed. They said you could not spread covid if jabbed. They said you will not get hospitalized if jabbed. They said 80% jabbed was end of lockdowns and herd immunity.
          You have the memory of a mayfly.

        2. Also, as Arlene below mentioned, the graphs are cases per 100k vaxxed and cases per 100k unvaxxed.
          So, basically, you are lying through your teeth.

        3. Have a look at the data from the UK. Check out Alex Berenson or Bad Cattitude at Substack. They have the data from the UK, Israel, Denmark, and Iceland. It proves you are wrong, unless of course Canada is different for some reason. We are probably a month and a half or two months behind them. The vaccines have negative efficacy after six months or less, and the booster lasts about two months. And the vaccines do nothing for Omicron.

          The longer the authorities ignore this or pretend otherwise, the worse it will be when the truth becomes apparent. They should just suck it up and admit failure now.

          3. I did check out the data from UK. In particular, I read the paper that “The latetest UK numbers” links to.

            It clearly says that vaccines are effective.

            You don’t have to believe me. Read it for yourself.

          4. The words say one thing, the numbers say another.

            Why do the words not say the same thing as the numbers?

        4. “But everyone’s immune system is different, and some will not respond much, and some will overrespond.” — perhaps that is one reason we should not be forcing these vaccines on prople. Actually, let us hope you are right, and the vaccines are effective generally. I have several loved ones who are vaccinated. I also have a daughter who has lost her job in BC because she refuses the vaccine, based on her sense of what is right for her. Some people navigate life based on their intuition. She does. Her intuition has never steered her wrong, and her intuition is telling her not to get the vax. She even made an appointment to get one, but could not make herself do it. Needless to say she is not happy sbout the job loss. People should not have to make such a decision. If we are not preventing transmission or creating herd immunity, then the mandates are a gross violation of our human rights.

          1. I don’t approve of forcing vaccines on people. I don’t approve of forcing any treatments on adults against their will. It’s a pity that government gave up on trying on convince people, and turned instead to their autocratic instincts.

    2. Also, correlation !=causation. Maybe those that got multiple jabs are paranoid freaks who almost never leave their homes, and when they do, they don’t go near another human being, etc.
      I suppose you also think its better to live like that than catch something that now has a <0.01% chance of fatality. You do know what that makes you, don't you? I'll give you a hint: It starts with a cow.

    3. You have missed the label on the Y axis that states ‘rate per 100K vaxx vs rate per 100K non-vaxx’. The comparison has been figured into that rate already.

      As an example, in Ontario, as of today –
      Vaccinated: 73.08 per 100,000
      Partially vaccinated: 42.20 per 100,000
      Unvaccinated: 55.55 per 100,000

      In Alberta On Jan 11, 2022 (the last date I calculated this)
      5,599 of 3,237,812 vaccinated Albertans tested positive. That is 1 in 578
      1,275 of 1,182,227unvaccinated Albertans tested positive. That is 1 in 927

      Those that are vaccinated are testing positive for Omicron at a higher RATE than those that are not. I am vaccinated and live with an immuno-compromised person who is out there working in this every day. This is not something I relate with joy.

      By stats, vaccinations still appear to be showing an amount of protective effect against serious illness.

      Still, of the deaths in Alberta since January 1, 2022, 69% have been in fully vaccinated (and vulnerable) people.

      No vaxx is perfect, but this is dismal, and what I consider a failure.

      1. You’re right! It does say that. I missed it.

        But it brings up another point. Where did that graphic come from? It’s not from “The Latest UK numbers.” You can search through it. There’s nothing that looks like it.

        Further the report seems to refute the idea of negative efficiecy. To quote…

        Several studies of vaccine effectiveness have been conducted in the UK which indicate that 2 doses of vaccine are between 65 and 95% effective at preventing symptomatic disease with COVID-19 with the Delta variant, with higher levels of protection against severe disease including hospitalisation and death. There is some evidence of waning of protection against infection and symptomatic disease over time, though protection against severe disease remains high in most groups at least 5 months after the second dose.

        1. Look you bet on the wrong horse, but like a gambling addict you think betting on another longshot will make up for it.
          You were lied to and bought it like you open email links from Nigerian princes promising millions.
          You should, over the next 2 years (the length of this fraud), just admit you were had to anyone and everyone and then STFU about anything regarding covid.

        2. “Several studies”, eh? Yet the timeline of those “studies” are not provided. For example, there have been numerous idiots who have pointed out a study from the UK that indicated the number of unvaxxed people who have died from Covid between January and Sept, 2021. But that is absolutely LAUGHABLE. And the reason is simple.

          The 7 day average daily death rate of the Delta wave in the UK peaked January 23, 2021 and fell to 30 in mid April. At that time, there were only 11% of the population of the UK “fully vaccinated”.

          The 7 day average daily death rate from mid April until was low double digit until late July at which time it turned up to less than 100 per day.

          The UK data manipulators took that time line of data to show the “efficacy” of the vaccines, but it had nothing to do with that…..it had to do with loading up the data with the very high death rate of the Delta wave (when virtually NO one was “fully vaccinated”) and then used the trough of deaths after that wave to try to pretend the vaccine was working. BUT IT WASN’T….it was the natural trough AFTER the Delta wave.

          The only way to do a head to head comparison is AFTER September, 2021 when the next wave started and when the vaccination rate was much higher.

          The deaths since September have shown the same trend every month…..the percentages of deaths of the unvaccinated are at the same rate as the vaccinated and the highest deaths occur in those over 70 and after their second dose.

          Which raises the question….is it really Covid that killed them or is it the vaccine itself or a vaccine that lowered their immunity.

          And of course none of this even talks about those killed outright by the “vaccine” or the unknown long term effects.

          I would suggest, however, if you have this religious belief in the vaccines, please go out and get as many boosters as you can.

          It was absolute BULLSHIT. at 1,251on

          1. I don’t have a “religious belief” in vaccines. I support the COVID vaccines because the scientific evidence that they’re helpful is overwhelming. That’s an evidence-based belief.

            Further, there is good evidence in the hospitals that they work as well. Reorts from health workers don’t rise to the standards of scientific studies, but they have the benefit of being extremely current.

            https://twitter.com/DrJacobsRad/status/1478679598145626117?s=20

    4. Show your proof or fuck off and die asswipe. You’re tiresome, mendacious, and utterly undeserving of the air you breathe.

          1. Sure, let’s discuss Table 10.

            It shows that in the over 80 crowd, about 400 cases were unvaccinated and 2400 cases vaccinated. In short, the vaccinated made up about 86% of the cases.

            But here’s the kicker: about 95% of the over 80 population is fully vaccinated (Table 7), suggesting a substantial efficiecy. This paper shows the opposite of what is claimed above.

          2. There is zero empiricle evidence that the lower numbers is due to vaccines, especiall when you take other age groups, and Scotland, and Ontario, and Alberta, etc, into consideration.
            I could just as easily say that the 9% difference is because enough of the 80+ crowd died before being hospitalized, or that enough of them are effectivly immobile, and unable to interact with others, etc.
            Vaccines that work do not fill hospitals with people infected with the disease the vaccine is supposed to protect them from.
            Oh, and EVERY other place, shows -ve efficacy, as per the links above, and it was the doctors, scientists and politicians saying that the jab would provide immunity; in short they lied then, and are lying now.
            The UK actually held an infant prisoner until he died, preventing the parents from getting alternative treatment abroad, on at least two occasions. You, no doubt, also support that.
            Measles, polio and smallpox wards were never full of people vaccinated against them, you idiot, that’s why this isn’t a vaccine, its a jab, and using any form of state or private coercion to get people to take it is evil, Mengeler scale evil, an evil you seem to support.

        2. More selective games, eh, Killer Marmot. Boy, you really are a sucker. As the old saying goes, you use statistics like a drunk uses a lamp post….for support, not illumination. The vaccines have ZERO efficacy at best. But it is turning negative and that is without including the deaths caused outright by the vaccine itself and the ongoing immune system damage and other unknown longer term effects of that crap.

    5. Wrong again. Overall, the percentage of unvaxxed deaths (29%) is the same as the percentage of unvaxxed in the population. The vaccinated portion of the population is 71.1%. At best, overall, the efficacy is zero. In the +70 grouping with two doses….22% of those deaths are in the vaccinated and 73% are in the double dosed…the remainder have had one dose.

      The vaccines are worthless given that we have no idea how many people have been killed by them nor do we have any idea of the long term consequences of unleashing these horribly leaky vaccines onto the world.

  22. Remember when the smallpox and polio vaccines were rolled out, and how, almost a year later, most of the polio and smallpox cases were in the vaccinated? Me neither.
    They also expect us to belive that you’re more likely to be hospitalized, but magically less likely to wind up in the ICU if vaxxed, basically that guy on the street is more likely to wind up in the ICU than guy in a hospital bed.
    This is what assholes like UnMe, Allen s, TimG, Killer Marmot, etc, are trying to push down our throats.

    1. Those clowns you refer to probably have “buyers remorse”…..they bought into the hype and now realize that AT BEST, the outcome is neutral but they have NO idea what the long term implications of these “vaccines” might be.

      This is from the document released by Project Veritas which discussed the “missing files”.

      “Furthermore, the EcoHealth proposal states that a “vaccine approach lacks sufficient epitope coverage to protect against quasispecies of coronavirus”. Consequently they were trying to make vaccines work by “targeted immune boosting via vaccine inoculators using chimeric polyvalent recombinant spike proteins”. The nature of using a spike quasispecies may explain the unusual (and potentially detrimental) antibody response amongst the vaccinated to the new COVID variants. Fundamentally, the knowledge the proposal provide signals that the risk of Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) from vaccination should be evaluated with high priority, on top of the reality that single-epitope vaccines will have little effects against SARSr-Cov-WIV, as indicated in the proposal.

      “The mechanism to improve the SARSr-CoV-WIV spike protein (other than direct engineering) is to challenge it against animals that have spike protein-only antibodies. The attenuated virus will either die or adapt its form to neutralize the spike protein-only antibodies. The intent was to perform this task against humanized mice and then “batified” mice. Instead it was done with the world’s population.”

      Frankly, I think it’s time to sharpen up the guillotines as there is a long line of “experts” that require its service.

      1. Interesting. In my view, we are being set up for one world government and Covid/vax passports has been a tool to get us there. Although the whole thing has been driven by high level globalist forces (WHO, Gates Foundation, etc), when the SHTF people will not blame the globalists. They will blame their national leaders. Globalists will “come to the rescue.” How demonic! How clever! Do you think Mr. Trudeau has thought of this?

        1. I believe you are 100% correct. While we waste a good amount of time and energy debating vaccine efficiency, ALL of us should be focusing on what “they” see as the prize: digital ID and a social credit system. Okham’s razor: his idiocy aside, why would the Nazi in Ottawa obsess about UNIVERSAL Wuhan flu vaccination? When you look at the reality on the ground, strained or not, bodies are not piling on the streets. On the other hand, we already have a binary “social credit”, and a segment of the population primed to hate and stigmatize another, (minority) segment of the population. Once we fall and the social credit is fully implemented, it won’t matter if ever got the vaccine or not. We will all be serfs. Wake up, vaxxed.

        2. Linda, Yes, you are right. I’ve been saying this for months. The globalists will offer to step in and save us, BUT, the cost will be more than we can afford. They will demand that they take over control of all western countries, and rule a “post national world”. Next up will be a broken supply chain and digital currency. All for our own good of course. I intend to remain a pureblood no matter what forces of evil they use to try and persuade us to climb on to that proverbial cattle car 🙁

      2. Art, did you have the opportunity to go over EcoHealth’s DARPA proposal? It’s in the Verita’s release. Very informative, as we it gives a very descriptive view of what sort of work was taking place at WIV. While the project was rejected, my experience with academic grants and projects tells me that EcoHealth was probably already doing the “GoF” work under their NIH grant that started in 2014.

    2. Unfortunately, read recently that the first version of the Polio vaccine caused approximately 60,000 cases of polio. That’s quite different from this vax though because the Polio vaccine did stop the spread, and the vaccine prevented multiple variant infections.

    1. The graphs are probably from the the Herald newspaper which is unfortunately behind a paywall. However, the graph appears to be based on the 2 left columns of Table 12 in COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report – week 2 under the heading “Cases reported by specimen date between week 50 2021 and week 1 2022.”

      1. I thought so too, but it isn’t from the Herald. I got behind the paywall by hitting the escape key.

  24. This is so tedious watching the children argue.
    Sorry vaxheads you can’t Vax your way out of an interspecies virus.
    Can’t
    Ever
    Not in a million years.
    So do us all a favor and fall down so we can bury you. You’ve sold your soul to the government “experts” so die already so that the rest of us, the people who don’t live their lives in fear of tomorrow, can get on with living.
    We’re tired of you.
    Do the world a favor, stop pretending you’re alive and lie down in your self constructed coffin. We promise not to disturb you.

  25. Tam and the other co-conspirators in their last video call. Those pesky little grey bars in that graph. Such a nuisance. Once those grey bars are gone, we can all declare victory and go home. Jab on.

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