The UK can look forward to freezing in the dark while chanting to their Goddess Greta. But don’t laugh at the poor Brits, as Climate Justin will soon be announcing the same policies for Turtle Island.
And the Greta cult is strong in Ontario.
The UK can look forward to freezing in the dark while chanting to their Goddess Greta. But don’t laugh at the poor Brits, as Climate Justin will soon be announcing the same policies for Turtle Island.
And the Greta cult is strong in Ontario.
Our politicians over-regulations makes any promises now just a fantasy.
The supply chain has been blown to smithereens by their hatred of fossil fuels that they need to make products and move with fossil fuels using vehicles.
Even basic materials needed are being effected by governments closing down materials needed to create these products that the politicians promise is their new future. Reality bites when it can’t be done as more closures due to high energy costs.
Alberta Help Kill Line 5 let the bastards freeze, let them walk.
I own a geothermal system in the province of Ontario. In the summer of 2005, it cost me $28,000 to put in and because it was new technology and there weren’t many companies available that truly understood how it worked, I ending up putting in at least another $10,000 after that point for repairs, and service. It has 3600 feet of pipe as ground loop buried 8 feet down in the front yard on an acreage of 1.6 acres with a 120 foot frontage. So I have the space. At this point, I am heating a 5 bedroom, 3 bath, 2250 sq. ft. house (on the main level with a walkout basement) and all of the power is electrical. With air conditioning running, my summer bills are about $250 to $300 per month, and for heating in the winter, they increase to about $375 to $450 per month depending on the severity of the weather. It is a good technology, but not for the faint of heart. The house is also constructed with ICF (insulated concrete forming) all the way up to the roof rafters so my walls are 11.5 inches thick with 2 5/8″ inches of insulation on the inside and the outside, with a 6″ concrete core for an approximate R value of 55 to 60. I ran the air conditioning this past year for the better part of a month, give or take because of the high humidity.
That being said, most places in the UK are not suitable for installing either a well system (which most municipalities like our own Waterloo in Ontario banning the drilling of wells in cities) or a ground loop system (because they don’t have the real estate) or a body of water based system (because there aren’t enough lakes or rivers). BoJo is dreaming in technicolor and has no understanding of what is involved. His experts (and I always laugh out loud when I use that word) have read a brochure and think that is a good idea without having the experience to back it up. Government is a blunt, rude and crude beast and needs to be curtailed with a whip if necessary at every opportunity.
I hope the current keeps flowing for you. Still water won’t do much.
I’m from a trades background so I mean no disrespect but when the plumber in the article is the smartest man in the room we’ve got issues. It’s sad and pathetic that these terrible ideas reach the highest levels of governments around the world and one plumber being interviewed quickly and accurately tells you why it can never happen in the timeframe or if ever.
Thanks for the real world update. Your house sounds similar to a friend in Minnesota although his was slab on grade (just sold his house).
I do like this quote – nice to base public policy on hope: ” …. and they hope the price of green alternatives will have come down by the time the time the ban on new boilers is introduced in 2035. ” What a bunch of wankers.
And after all that expenditure you will never re coup your costs. The heat pump compressor will be worn out from running year round and then you are off to the races again after a few years. Appliances are not built to last these days. Ground source is an electrically powered system and at the present ‘true” rate of 17 cents/Kw hr you are getting approx. 20,000 Bthu`s per dollar. Natural gas at 34 cents/cub. m. equates to approx. 80,000 Bthu`s/dollar. A four to one ratio. Explain how a heat pump with a claimed COP of 3 : 1 is an economic benefit if gas or propane is available. Of course the claimed COP figures must be true if quoted in the catalogue. They are no more accurate than the EPA mileage figures provided on the stickers of new cars. Good for comparison purposes but otherwise useless.
Having grown up in the UK, I can attest that the average British house sits on a tiny lot, way too small for a ground-source heat pump.
I am old enough to remember when North Sea Gas was being introduced – in the early 1970’s and how everyone was giddy at the thought of vast quantities of cheap fuel and the promise of low cost gas heating. My last house there, a new build in 1976, was heated by a solid fuel (i.e. coal) boiler with radiators and we were hoping for gas to be laid on in our village. The most expensive form of heating was electricity, and it probably still is.
When all the cheap gas furnaces have been removed, expect electricity prices to rise to astronomical levels.
My stupid municipality at the same council meeting:
(1) wanted to support phasing out gas fired electricity in Ontario
(2) wanted to support expanding gas distribution in the municipality to residences and businesses
A hundred small modular reactors and ten full size nuclear units would be much greener and more economical.
And therefore out of the question.
It isn’t and never was about the environment.
this was discussed two years ago on SDA, In the EU those countries in the east who are being held to ransom by Russia are urging the EU to turn to nuclear power only an uneducated ignorant little girl stands between the acceptance of NE and a new communist dictatorship.
look at her and understand what a danger is her progressive ideology. I am very aware that electric cars and their battery charging whether we like it or not will need nuclear energy to maintain the power needed.
i forgot to mention just think of the LA container situation which will get worse when all electric trucks will be regulated by numb skulled Californian politicians, whose decisions are made at the expence of ordinary citizens
Idiots like Boris and 99% of all other politicians fail to realize that all the systems require cheap electricity to function. All of them. The exception being a wood/coal stove.
Looks like it’s back to the future is the way we’re headed.
The human race is on a path of self destruction, some higher power sent us Greta to save us.
Millions of people, already in the midst of a cost of living crisis stoked by rising inflation, also face new levies on their gas bills as part of plans to phase out conventional boilers by 2035.
It almost appears as though Energy Poverty is part of “our superiors” plans!? WTF!? Why would the cost of gas go up, except to PUNISH energy use? Yes, these “greens” want to DESTROY the Middle Class … to economically RUIN the Middle Class.
And Boris is apparently Conservative!
Few months back, Steyn pointed out this pearl from comrade Boris:
“Johnson said that he wants the G-7 to be ‘building back better, building back greener, building back fairer, and building back more equal and in a more gender-neutral and perhaps more feminine way.'”
If Conservative politicians are that imbecile, no wonder the Leftards are full-on idiots.
Boris’s Dad is a full on idiot. I was watching on the night of the Brexit vote when it finally looked certain that the “No” side was going to win express disappointment in his son for wanting to pull GB out of the EU and that even if GB left the EU that all the climate change policies needed to remain. To Boris’s Dad nothing was more important that night then saving the worthless economy robbing green initiatives. Freedom and prosperity for all means nothing to these people.
Boris’s dad is one of the rich people who aren’t affected by the stupid policies they force on others.
Not at all; he’s head of the Not Conservative, just like O’Toole is here.
one recalls boris went all in on the ‘baghdad museum’ kerfluffle, but he was courageous on other matters, I thought covid had shorn his locks, but carrie seems to have snipped lower, maybe this was why andrew marr, had him as a transitional prime minister, in his roman a clef, ‘head of state’ weekend at bernie, meets house of cards
WTI’s at $80.37 right now and rising. I haven’t seen those prices for a long time. Two things are 100% certainty: 1) We’re gonna have a heck of an energy shortage this winter with much harm done, and 2) The Leftwing scum that caused it will blame there not being enough renewables and deny any responsibility. All of Canada’s socialism enabling anti-economic shortage creating over burdening bureaucrats need firing. If they can bring free markets everywhere crashing down the voters can bring a tyrannical Gov’t down. War is upon us whether we want to believe it or not.
Of course the obvious, that renewables are not renewable and will never now or in the future, any future one might try and conger up, be able to supply electricity at a level that will sustain any modern western country. Folks it can’t be done, ever.
All leftists should be forced to live around volcano’s where they can get all the “climate friendly” geothermal heat they need.
Everyone else can then suffer with dinosaur goo to get by.
It will eventually boil down to them forcing us – or – us forcing them in the end, I pick us.
ontario grinds up hardwood to send to germany for their coal fired plants. somehow they feel they are greener in germany , and the canucks feel the same taking CO2 sucking plants out of the system
The Drax Power Station in Yorkshire is run using wood pellets from the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drax_Power_Station
Even some greenies are raising questions about this.
Proof that Boris really is an idiot – or controlled by his wife. ANd how, pray tell, is it intended to produce this hydrogen. Also, the result of burning hydrogen is water vapor, the “worst” of all greenhouse gasses.
“Proof that Boris really is an idiot – or controlled by his wife”
I vote for both. He is an idiot to allow himself to be controlled by her. I have long suspected she chased him for the sole reason of neutralizing the ‘threat’ of a true blue Conservative – extreme leftists are more than capable of that.
Well, at least Justin will be nice and warm at his Harrington Lake resort.
Hydrogen pipelines eh…?
NOT – EVER – GONNA – HAPPEN.
Complete and utter FANTASY..IMO
We need to stop referring to them as “renewables”, since both wind turbines and solar require rare earth elements to be built.
Both of them have a short life span compared to other sources of power.
Both are very difficult to recycle and either don’t get recycled, or their disposal is provided for by government programs.
and Both need subsidies to be competitive.
They should be called what they are…..”unreliables”.
The longer the delay in going nuclear, the more reliance on fossil fuels. Eliminating fossil fuels while not going nuclear is energy poverty and massive deprivation. It’s really that simple. Wind and solar are nothing more than a net fossil fuel consuming distraction (baby soothers for the Eloi).
The UK has gone full green theocracy batshit crazy. Their so-called Conservatives are the equivalent to our NDP but our so-called Conservatives are not much different.
I think the much anticipated climate refugees will be the ones travelling from the higher latitudes to the more equatorial ones.
We should help Eastern Canada through this winter in their zeal to go thoroughly green by shutting off all oil and natural gas pipelines to them. Just to be helpful, of course.
Have I lived so long that the ‘All Electric House’ is no longer the ideal ? Let’s consider that which politicians never think about, the waste from retro-fitting, junking, landfills sites, all in the name of Gaia.