Today in Declining Efficacy

Unsettled Science Wuhan Flu 81 Comments

Nine positive cases, one death due to COVID-19 outbreak at Kamloops Seniors Village, An internal Interior Health memo obtained by KTW on Aug. 27 noted there are potential COVID-19 exposure events at three long-term care homes in Kamloops.

Fully Vaccinated 35-Year-Old Dies of COVID While Waiting for Last-Ditch Treatment

And in the New England Journal of Medicine a new study, Resurgence of SARS-CoV-2 Infection in a Highly Vaccinated Health System Workforce

Vaccine effectiveness exceeded 90% from March through June but fell to 65.5% in July

81 Replies to “Today in Declining Efficacy”

  1. Let us assume the disease exists as described, and has become endemic.
    Let us also assume the vex is good for 6 months.
    Then:
    People who wish to be part of a species that requires twice-yearly shots in order to survive do not deserve to survive, in the Darwinian sense. That’s not even a valid species anymore, its some kind of sick meld of collective/corporate entities and a species.
    I’ll take my chances with the disease, and thus retain my humanity, my membership in a valid species, and on my own terms.

  2. I see a set up to having Boosters every six months being set up here.
    They’re concepts of efficiency is just by word of mouth as this vaccination never did protect you.
    An extremely dangerous placebo that causes terrible side effects.

    1. Pfizer now talking of an ongoing tablet regime to accompany recurring shots. Pfizer moving towards a monopoly here. Who knew that poisoning wells and then selling the treatment would still be a thing in century 21?

      1. Pfizer was the chosen winner. That’s why @ScottGottliebMD went from FDA to Pfizer. His buddies from his old job makes sure this stuff goes as it should.
        0 to do with public health.
        It’s all about those big paydays.
        https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1433858809282252802

        Linking to Disclose TV:
        JUST IN – Moderna’s application asking the FDA to authorize a #COVID19 booster shot contains “insufficient data,” the NYT reports.
        11:31 AM · Sep 3, 2021
        https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1433814814858547201

      2. Phase out Pfizer. Set phasers to stun!
        My God, Jim! (Said Bones McCoy to Captain Kirk) …they are savages! (Referencing our health care joke)….
        Don’t let the prime directive doom us.
        Rise up. Who else will save us, if not our selves, we, sorry distracted fools that we have become, while distracted. Fuck Woke, wake the fuck up. Please and thanks. Amen.
        Sorry, drunk but I mean it.

    2. Yes, one writer described it as part of a trend: service by subscription.
      e.g. much software is sold this way now.

  3. Isn’t this what they call “antibody disease enhancement”? You take the vaccine and it protects you against covid but leaves you vulnerable to every other pathogen, and “variant” that comes down the pike? Isn’t this exactly what the guy who invented the mRNA technology warned would happen?

    I’m sure glad to be part of the control group.

    1. Close but not exactly and actually much worse. If I may…“antibody disease enhancement” means that when you have very low antibody levels (as when the vaccine has faded 4-6 months later) the few antibodies left bind the virus. The binding keeps the virus in the correct configuration to rapidly and easily bind but there are not enough antibodies to disable the virus. (By analogy these viruses are like folded jack knives. They normally have to unfold to stab. Few antibodies binding means the jacknife has been propped open. Many antibodies mean it’s totally coated and blocked from opening.) So the person with low antibodies gets much sicker much more quickly than someone with no antibodies at all. There are only three solutions to this dilemma.

      1) Give a vaccine booster to get antibody levels up again.
      2) Let people just get very sick and hope they don’t die.
      3) Give people some kind of treatment that will help them get through the infection so they don’t die.

      Which one makes Big Pharma lots of money and allows government to exert great control? The answer is diabolical. And there is no excuse for this because practically every independent expert in the field warned Big Pharma this would happen.

      1. Oh yes there is also this cute effect called CD8 and CD4 fatigue which basically means your bodies natural defence run by the CD4 and CD8 cells get overwhelmed fighting infection or doing the vaccine thing. This is why you are more vulnerable to other infections while you are recovering from say, flu. There is some suspicion that both the virus infection and the vaccine can cause this immune fatigue. So the part about being vulnerable to other infections is also probably correct.

  4. “Heather did everything right, she did everything she was supposed to do and is now suffering because people didn’t do their part.”

    I wonder who he’s talking about…the doctors, the government, the CCP, or all of us unvaccinated murderers….

    2. The government and media are working very carefully to divert blame for this mess onto the unvaccinated. This is just plain sick and twisted. The unvaccinated do not cause COVID and do not spread it anymore than the vaccinated.

      I find it highly suspicious that a healthy young 35 year old died of COVID. I suspect one of two things. 1) She has some other preexisting comorbidity. 2) She is a victim of pathogenic priming by the vaccine.

  5. Ah, yes, it’s all the fault of the Delta variant. Not the tribe of sociopathic monsters who style themselves the Han Chinese.

    It truly makes no sense to call Delta “the Indian variant,” as it did not come from India at all. It’s the latest product of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, most likely introduced to India via Pakistan, China’s south Asian puppet.

    And rest assured the WIV is working on ever more deadly plagues yet, to be rolled out if the American people somehow push the Xiao Biden gang aside.

    It’s the moral equivalent of China setting off nukes on American soil—and the Americans doing nothing to stop it.

  6. Still around 8x more likely to get infected, 12x more likelu to be hospitalized, and 16x more likely to die from covid for the invaccinated.

        1. “You mean from the people pushing the vaccine?”

          Like these people ?

          https://www.cpso.on.ca/News/Key-Updates/Key-Updates/COVID-misinformation

          The College is aware and concerned about the increase of misinformation circulating on social media and other platforms regarding physicians who are publicly contradicting public health orders and recommendations. Physicians hold a unique position of trust with the public and have a professional responsibility to not communicate anti-vaccine, anti-masking, anti-distancing and anti-lockdown statements and/or promoting unsupported, unproven treatments for COVID-19. Physicians must not make comments or provide advice that encourages the public to act contrary to public health orders and recommendations. Physicians who put the public at risk may face an investigation by the CPSO and disciplinary action, when warranted. When offering opinions, physicians must be guided by the law, regulatory standards, and the code of ethics and professional conduct. The information shared must not be misleading or deceptive and must be supported by available evidence and science.

      2. You should look at the data from Israel. They are deep into vaccine resistance territory. You really do need to learn the difference between a snapshot in time and an unfolding process.

        1. Israel data proves the vaccine is effective against Delta. Your information is outdated and only covered a few weeks in July.

          3. For the period of February 1 through August 2 there were COVID Delta variant cases for 47,000 people who had received 2 vaccine doses, and for 151,054 people who were unvaccinated.

            In the first group of vaccinated people there were a total of 402 deaths, and in the second much larger group of unvaccinated people there were 253 deaths. To get the death rate you divide the number of deaths by the total number of infection cases.

            That gives a death rate of .86 percent among the vaccinated and .17 percent among the unvaccinated. That is an amazing difference. The death rate among vaccinated was just over five times greater than that for the unvaccinated.

            https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf

          4. At 80% vaccinated and strict masking mandates back in place it now seems everything they have tried is making it worse. Cases are about equal between vaxx and unvaxx. Open up and let ‘er rip.

          5. Crowhouse, this is a really good example of statistics being manipulated. You are using the incorrect population numbers.

            https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

            For all people over 16, the populations are:

            43,378,193 which is 79.8% of eligible population have received both doses
            48,245,337 which is 88.8% of eligible population have received one dose

            From those numbers we can figure out the total population, then figure out the unvaccinated population:

            48,245,337 / 0.888 = 54,330,334 total population

            54,330,334 – 48,245,337 = 6,084,997 unvaccinated population

            May as well use the most recent technical document:

            https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1014926/Technical_Briefing_22_21_09_02.pdf

            Involving Delta there were 536 deaths in a population of 6,084,997 unvaccinated. There were also 1,091 deaths in a population of 43,378,193.

            536 / 6,084,997 = 0.000088% of unvaccinated died
            1091 / 43,378,193 = .000025% of vaccinated died

            0.000088% / 0.00025% = 3.52x

            The unvaccinated are 3.52x more likely to die of Delta in the UK. But there are also confounding factors pushing this number down. The % of vaccinated above 50 will be higher than the % of vaccinated under 50. This means the actual relative risk ratio is much higher, we just don’t know because there is no breakdown of vaccination rates above and below 50 that I can find. If you can find it, I will work it out for you.

            THANK YOU YET AGAIN SDA FOR PROVING THE VACCINE WORKS!

          6. this is a really good example of statistics being manipulated

            Yes, it is. You’re deliberately changing the denominators to make your argument sound more plausible. It’s a very old, very simple, very transparent way of lying with statistics.

            You’re full of shit, and you know it.

    2. Only for the first four months after being vaccinated by Pfizer and about 8 months with Moderna. The first vaccines were rolled out abut that long ago.

    3. Within 6 months, if our moral superiors don’t don’t cover it up, you’ll see that ratio narrowing, . More likely though, the wolves will blame it on the variant, and the unvaxxed who spreads it. It’s all a lie, of course.

  7. Vaccine effectiveness of 65% in that study means the unvaccinated are about 3x more likely to be infected. Thank you yet again SDA for proving the vaccine works!

    2. 65% and dropping. Per the CEO of Pfizer, the vaccine escape variant will come. Have fun with that. I, and my whole family caught the virus (my risk at 55 was 3 in 100000 – I have more dangerous hobbies). Now we have REAL immunity, from an immune system that was designed over eons. I hope you stick around Allen – time is on OUR side……..

    3. Actually, you’re a fucking moron and have no understanding of statistics. 65% is garbage level of immunity. If your are infected and expose two vaccinated people to Wuhan Flu the chancres that neither get infected are reduced to 42%. If you expose three people the chances none get Wuhaned are reduced to 27%. This explains why we now have in Ontario about six times as many people with Wuhan Flu than we had a year ago when none was vaccinated.

      You really should focus more on not missing opportunities to STFU and less on trying to argue against your betters.

      1. 66% means 3x as many unvaccinated get infected. Thats hardly garbage.

        We are also seeing much higher numbers than that for hospitalization and death

    4. Temporarily, at best. Something that protects you for a handful of months isn’t a vaccine, it’s a treatment…and one with unknown, long-term side effects.

      In Alberta, we’re up to 20% of general hospitalizations of those with double-jabs, and 10% in ICU, and it’s been increasing steadily.

      1. Yes, every booster shot will have all the attendant risks of clots, myocarditis and so forth. I estimate after 8 boosters the entire population will have sufferd some horrific and potentially fatal side effect if the rates in the VAERS data hold up.

        1. “Estimate”? How?
          I am not pro mandatory vaccination or anything like that just wonder how you have estimated anything when all publicly available data is garbage?

          1. Vaers sucked but it is the best we have. I simply took a rate for serious adverse reaction including death of about 1/238 and extrapolated that over 8 shots plus assuming that the effect doubles (ie first booster 1/238 second booster 1/117) with each shot. By eight boosters or four years we’re all toast. I admit that is a pretty crude estimate but the net effect is the same whether its 8 or 18 boosters. We all die.

          2. I don’t think so. I am not sure how you got 1/238. But more importantly probability of experiencing adverse effects isn’t random. Those who experience adverse effects once are much more likely to experience them again while many of those who haven’t experienced adverse effects will quite possibly never experience them even if they jab themselves for decades. It isn’t Russian roulette.

      3. Only 10%? Talk about highly effective. So your saying 30% of the population – unvaccinated – account for NINETY PERCENT!?

        1. 90% of those in the ICU in Alberta is 106 cases, in a province of over 4 million. Scary. Especially since that tells us nothing else about them or their other health conditions. Or the 12 vaxed. And again, those numbers will go up, as they have been.

          That said, you seem to be ignoring that people were told taking the shots would protect them *permanently* with ~95% efficacy, and everything would go back to normal. This has plainly been shown to be false, in which case any measures promoting or forcing widespread “vax” uptake are intended to hurt people, not protect them. How do you feel about Pfizer’s new 2-pill-per-day regimen alongside the every-5-months “booster” shots?

          So, are you a shill for Big Pharma, or are you angling for a position as a statist thug?

          1. We are discussing efficacy not ICU rates. 94% was for the original strain. How much of the drop in efficacy is due to Delta, and how much due to vaccine waning? We aren’t sure yet, but it is there.

            Increasing vaccine uptake will only help. We’ve seen a huge difference between hospitalization rates, ICU rates, and death rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated population. Given the vaccinated population is older and has more comorbidities, the scale is tipped even further in vaccinations favor.

            https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccinations

            https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-outcomes

            Alberta probably has the best data in the world, and it all points to the vaccines reducing cases, hospitalizations, and death in all age groups.

          2. It it’s ineffective (or significantly less effective) either on its own or merely against what’s now the dominant strain, how does pushing it on people help now?

            And diminished efficacy is what’s driving the rising ICU rates for the double-vaxed. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.

            I’m curious, though: it’s there a list of things that you think any governments/health authorities have done properly in the past 18ish months?

    5. 65% and falling rapidly and guess what? Soon after that comes getting sicker faster and being worse off than the unvaccinated unless you get a booster.

    6. The vaccine is in the process of failing as resistant virus takes hold. 90-65-?30-?0. We are watching it in real time.

      Do you have a point where failure becomes apparent even to you or do you switch to wishful thinking once below 30%?

      I’m reminded of Homer Simpson’s barbecue (“its still good” “Its still good”….”it’s gone”)

      1. The vaccine is not fading because Delta is resistant. If you have been vaccinated two weeks ago you’re very well protected against Delta. The problem is when all that protection fades away in a few months and you actually get sicker with Delta than you otherwise would.

    7. Relative, or absolute? There’s a difference. That 65% you speak of is relative risk reduction, and it used to be 95%, and that rate is STILL dropping!

      btw… ABSOLUTE risk reduction is less than 1%, and it always has been that, even without the waning that we’re witnessing now.

          1. According to the most recent UK government technical document, the unvaccinated are 3.52x as likely to die from delta as vaccinated.

            Raw numbers are irrelevant when one population (fully vaccinated) is 8x larger than the other population (unvaccinated)

    9. I know, my probability of ending up in hospital due to Covid dropped from 3 in a million to 1 in a million! Go vaccine!

      Meanwhile my idiosyncratic risk of developing life-changing myocarditis went from 1 in 100 to 32 in 100 with my set of health markers.

      So remind me why on earth I’d take mRNA?

  8. We’re still talking about a disease that since the pandemic was declared has a greater than 99.9% survivability rate, right?

    1. Oh among the double vaxxed the rate is creeping up to a rather alarming 3% or so if they don’t get a booster.

    1. Didn’t he also say those who don’t want to be vaxxed should accommodated? He is not calling for 100% vaxxed. He’s calling for 90% and a system for Canadians to travel not an internal passport system.

      It kind of doesn’t matter what he says. I am voting PPC in a riding where the Con got 76% last time.

  10. Waiting for respiratory failure to present as pneumonia, and sending someone home because it hasn’t yet is ignorant, stupid, and negligent. Anyone who is hyperventilating at rest is in the process of failing, and systemic inflammation does not have to present as pneumonia in order to be taken seriously.

  11. Nothing to worry about, Bonny Mengele only reports the data that fits her political position, and ignores/buries anything contrary to her narrow view.
    Those not taking the shot will be dragged through the mud and blamed for everything, even when we are excluded from events, and only the double dosed are there, for their super spreader events.
    Even when the DDs overwhelm the hospitals, we will still be blamed.
    Facts be damned, the dose is fading, and ADE is on the horizon for them.
    Here’s to the Shakes! What will BonBon say then?

  12. american journal of therapuetics endorses ivermectin for covid…tokyo medical assocciation calls on immediate use of ivermectin in japan to treat covid…canukistan..do not use ivermectin off label ..even if it can save a life

  13. “Vaccine effectiveness exceeded 90% from March through June but fell to 65.5% in July”?

    Last year’s flu shot isn’t effective this year?

    1. Can’t stop infection, can’t stop transmission, can’t lessen symptoms, can’t prevent hospitalization, just what the fuck good is it? They are not vaccines.

    2. So you are going to through the rest of your life as an mRNA junkie, shooting up every 6 months. OK, dude, good luck with that.

      I’d have zero interest in participating in a society that fucked up anyway, so please, do me a favour, make it even easier for me to cut you, your government and your businesses out of my entire life for good.

  14. Saw something on twitter earlier today about an unvaccinated Bills player -can’t locate now- so this’ll have to do.

    Those four players – WR Cole Beasley, WR Gabriel Davis, DT Star Lotulelei and DT Vernon Butler – have been sent home from the team’s training facility. Per NFL COVID-19 protocols they must be out for five days from their last contact with the trainer who tested positive. Each player has tested negative to this point, the trainer that tested positive was fully vaccinated.

    https://www.wkbw.com/sports/buffalo-bills/buffalo-bills-wr-cole-beasley-three-others-identified-as-close-contacts-of-trainer-who-tested-positive-for-covid-19

  15. Evolution equals mutation and selection.

    Lockdowns, masks and gene therapy do not change that.

    Where did SARS go?

  16. BC has the highest per capita covid cases in the country and the highest vaccinations per capita as well.

    2. Do you really not have any understanding of probabilities? Either something magically works one hundred percent of the time or it’s worthless?

  19. Anyone have data on Sputnik? Russia is having poor vaccine uptake (poor buggers, they have no idea how much worse AZ/JJ and mRNA have been!) and are struggling with delta.

    Mu is going to hit in Fall in Northern Europe and North America. It is supposedly impervious to mRNA vaccines.

    Fun times ahead.

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