How do they get the caramilk inside the caramilk bar? It’s actually pretty easy.
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The signals are coming from everywhere. Government, news, sports, ads, billboards, TV, radio, social media, etc.
How do they get the caramilk inside the caramilk bar? It’s actually pretty easy.
More from LC Bennet
The signals are coming from everywhere. Government, news, sports, ads, billboards, TV, radio, social media, etc.
Not a chance I would go along with it. The conformists I know will tell you that’s one of the reasons I’m such an assh*le.
They’d be wrong about that. Being an a-hole could be the reason why someone doesn’t conform, but not conforming isn’t a reason someone is an a-hole. (And many a-holes will conform, especially to a-hole behaviour.)
(And I’m not pedantic because I made this comment, I made this comment because I’m pedantic.)
What would have been interesting would have been introducing a non-conformist person near the end. Someone who asked people what the heck they were doing and why. Does a non-confirmist alter the new social conditioning paradigm? Can a Socrates type questioner ever change learned but irrational social behavior or are those who question always doomed to drink the hemlock? 🙂
That was interesting!
Some of us who have been social outcasts for much of our lives, especially during our formative years, find not conforming a whole lot easier than most people.
Oh lohdy lohd, don’t throw me in that there briar patch!
I think social outcast may be too strong a term for most people. In the first half of my childhood, I was raised in a somewhat unusual environment. I also come from a long line of difficult personalities who had the good sense to marry into stability – the good balancing out the belligerent side. Whether it’s Nature or Nuture, thinking and behaving differently is both a blessing and a curse. The key is learning to blend in (conform) when needed, which is most of the time.
Of course, the Woke think they are the rebels because everyone knows that the real rebels in history have always had the full support of politicians, the media, celebrities, mainstream academia and all corporations. Having all of them backing you must mean you are talking truth to power. /s
Heh! I may leverage that- “somewhat unusual environment” bit.
Thinking and behaving different is a choice. My brother is an uberconformist. I am not. Two paths springing from the same unusual environment. I think it’s nature’s way of covering risk. Sure the conformists are more likely to not get banished from the tribe and starve but sometimes the one that survives is the one that doesn’t go out on the rotten ice with everyone else.
Definitely all about choices but nature/nuture plays some part, I think.
When my brother had to do a family genealogical history for school, my grandfather jokingly told him not to look back too far because in the old country there were as many ancestors hanged from a tree as continuing on the family tree.
Annndddd, you wonder why we’re all walking around wearing masks and thinking the the 2020 election was the fairest in American history, file this in the NO Sh*t, Sherlock file.
+++Antenor
When I see 70% of my CA neighbors vote for Gavin Newsom and Dementia-Slow Joe Biden … I thank God I’m in the minority. STUPID social norms are … well … just as stupid as standing up for a beeping tone.
You know what else is in the minority? People with 130 IQ like me.
L – What ? You are 2 Standard Deviations above the normal I.Q. ! That’s about SDA average.
Your problem is you are a dual, overhead cam, hi-compression, premium fueled V-12, living
in a North America now voting for a revival of the *Trabant. Currently for sale, south of the 49th, the Biden Trabant and north of the 49th, the Trabant Trudeau. State and provincial versions of the Trabant are foot pedal powered.
*(“The 1980s model had no tachometer, no indicator for either the headlights or turn signals, no fuel gauge, no rear seat belts, no external fuel door, and drivers had to pour a mix of gasoline and oil directly under the bonnet/hood.”)
I almost bit my tongue off, putting it so far into my cheek. Isn’t it great having free-flowing discussions with those of equal wits?
What I wanted to make my primary response…
So sorry Kenji. I’ll try to not use so many big words in the future to keep it down to your level. I’m so sorry, I just didn’t know!
Anyone ever notice how many black men with white women there are in commercials?
Noticing is racist!
(Un-noticeable colored) Lives Matter … xLM
Yes and they are both gay or trans. And, if not, the man is obviously an idiot like the one smashing holes in the walls because he heard there was money in his home.
This seems to be the tactic of homosexual education.
From getting a pride parade, to flying a flag outside city hall or the school, to “educating” the youth at such a young age it isn’t even understood(yet ingrained and accepted into young minds), to having tranny men read stories to classrooms of children.
Accept, embrace, conform, experiment, etc
A zillion years ago, having been promoted at the Telco, I was obliged to attend a ‘New Manager’s Course’…..at one point we were divided into small groups and told to construct something with popsicle sticks.
After a time the instructor informed us that the exercise was to highlight different management styles, Laissez-faire, Authoritarian, etc……told us that person ‘X’ was the ‘manager’ of the group I was assigned to.
I said “I didn’t know THAT person was supposed to be in charge – I was just doing what I wanted to do…like I always do”.
That reminds me of the matter of “learning styles” while I was teaching at Armpit College. I had to tailor my lectures to the different ways that the kiddies “learned” and it was up to me to determine who had what style.
Yeah, a lot of fur flew over that one.
After I quit, AC adopted the four “official” learning styles, around which all lectures and lab sessions had to be tailored, including overhauling course outlines to include all that horse puckey.
My class mates and I played games with the so called IQ tests that came our way many years ago. Those administering the tests could not understand why we were laughing. The results of the tests were so skewed they were less than useless. Of course any understanding of that would not be realized until we had all become successful in our chosen fields.
We had a spaghetti/scotch tape/marshmallow tower contest at a work function. 3 members of my group (of 6) got in trouble for loudly high-fiving while noting “Yeah, we’re gonna kick ass, we got the engineers!” (the only two in that office).
And yes, we did win by a foot over the next best team. Nobody else thought to re-enforce the marshmallows with the tape. The details usually make all the difference.
Are we all confident that the whole video was not a total contrivance, just a movie to entertain us?
As Dr H says, “everybody lies”…even, perish the thought, Wharton profs.
It could be but these experiments have been done before and most people will go along.
I went through something similar in the military in the early 70s. I failed, so they made me an NCO.
That looks a lot like the “team-building” training I was forced to suffer through while I was at Armpit College.
My brother worked in the Cadbury factory that produced Caramilk. It’s actually quite simple and for the right price, I’d tell you.
I’m willing to pay… anything.
I’ll tell you for free. Freeze the goo before adding chocolate to the mold.
I will bet you one billion dollars that I wouldn’t have joined in. I know myself and the fact that I wouldn’t explains my life in many ways.
Mind you, I’m not a hero. The right amount of threat, physical, mental or financial could have me not conforming but complying. But a bell and because everyone else was doing it? No.
Bah I say
“Baaaa”, they say.
A bunch of self-declared “non-conformists” convening on this blog-slash-echo chamber where everyone agrees with each other to declare just how nonconformist each one is.
Of course, the moment Kate says “Jump”…
Well, we have to hang out somewhere. Under bridges is taken by your ilk. Kate is our dominatrix and we enjoy the beatings. LOL
It’s hard to properly use the self-flagellation kits she mails out though. I find I need to use a timer, two electric drills, and a tuning fork.
(I wonder what the expression on Stanley’s face is, “I knew it!” or “what is wrong with these people?”. Or more likely, puzzlement. Stanley, just never try to visualize Roseanne Barr doing jumping jacks naked, and how long after the jumping jack the jiggling will stop.)
Dayamn Miner, your post caused me to do the visualization, now the jiggling won’t stop, and it’s driving me insane. (a short journey)
“Of course, the moment Kate says “Jump…” assholes like Stanley M, Allan S, and the other Unme’s are sure to clutch their sacs in outrage. F/O already!
Same telco….attended a sales rally….most of southern Ontario reps. Guest speaker, had a trick of not finishing words. Within five minutes max he had all (most all, not me and a couple friends I was sitting with), spontaneously and in unison, finishing the words out loud.
Sitting there thinking “I WORK with these people!”
This looks more like a “Candid Camera” segment than a formal experiment.
Anyone who would go along with the group with no reason provided, simply blindly mimicking their behavior, is truly a gullible fool, and a danger to others.
The statement about how when all the patients have been called in there’s no one left to observe the woman in purple is false. The receptionist, a person of authority, is still very much still present.
I’d like to see this experiment tried on multiple subjects – say, at least 100 randomly selected individuals – and see what happens. Was the woman in purple the only one who “followed the lead”, and so therefore highlighted? Did others do so, and what were the percentages of follow/ignore?
Also, the man who comes in after everyone else has left isn’t a valid comparison to the woman, He asks her why she’s standing, and she gives him a reason – a bad one, but a reason nonetheless. He presumes it is legitimate, not having any proximate means to determine otherwise. (Of course, he could ask the receptionist, which is what might be expected of a reasonably intelligent person.)
Ian Dury and the Blockheads devoted a whole album to this.
“I wann’a go straight,says it all.
Why I would conform too,Never get in front of the March of The Mumbling Morons.
Slide to one side and let them march through.
Interesting. This is a human recreation of the “five monkeys and a banana” experiment. Take five monkeys, put them in a cage, put a banana at the top of a set of stairs in the cage. When one monkey goes for the banana, hose all the monkeys down with cold water. Repeat until they stop trying.
Replace one of the monkeys. The new monkey will go for the banana; the other monkeys will physically stop him because they don’t want to get sprayed. Eventually the new monkey will stop trying.
Now replace another of the original five monkeys. He’ll go for the banana. The original three will physically stop him, and so will the first replacement monkey. He’s never been sprayed, he has no idea why you’re not supposed to go for the banana, he just knows that’s the group rule.
You can continue this experiment until all the original monkeys have been replaced, and despite the fact that none of them have any idea why, they won’t go for the banana and they’ll physically stop any other monkey who tries.
Human beings are hierarchical, tribal, social primates. It’s foolish to assume otherwise. We all have an innate instinct to follow the group’s mores, because the group is survival.
Add a virus and you have 12 Monkeys. All in masks.
All of my life, I have been that guy who does not follow the crowd and “marches to a different drummer”. I don’t believe that I would engage in this behavior and I would challenge those around me. I have done so in my life throughout.
I was a software developer in the Oil and Gas industry, companies that owned a huge number of hospitals, and did a stint in the electrical systems control industry. I solved many seemingly intractable problems because I questioned the common wisdom and asked probing, innovative questions that got to the root of the problem. I stayed a technical contributor in an industry that valued turning folks into project managers and ended up doing contract work for the later part of my career. Why contract work? My contributions were recognized for what they were, innovative solutions to complex problems found because I was able to disregard the conventional wisdom and to ask questions.
I had a group of developers working for me many times. I cannot count the number of times my subordinates told me that “I followed you up to this point and then you made a leap that would never have occurred to me”. In every case, that leap was the key question that got us past weeks or months of floundering around as a problem became worst to the point that I had to become personally involved in the solution. In most cases, the systems I developed or steered were considered to be optimal solutions that addressed the issues and were in place long after my departure from the problem domain.
I don’t follow. I don’t do superstitious activities in the hope that the underlying issues will magically disappear. I taught what I could to talented young developers and pushed unteachable idiots away. The number of people in the latter category is staggeringly large, at least to my mind.
Oh well. Sorry if this sounded like bragging. But I solved problems and wrote code up to the day I retired. I got several jobs by being sought by folks that saw me do things that they thought improbable or impossible.
I don’t know about coding but, 37 years with the Federal government, my greatest skill was being myself and not getting fired. Heck, I actually kept getting promoted! Although, honestly, it is difficult to fire a federal civil servant. They can make your life miserable, however.
Let’s be real here. Everyone who reads and comments on SDA except Allan S and UnMe would be stapled to their chair and laughing their asses off inside at those up and down toilet seat morons.
This explains what happened to the likes of Michele Rempel and the entire Conservative caucus.