What is this man thinking? Let us totally forget this attempt to juggle with levy as not a tax. It is a tax and that’s all there is to it. Secondly the notion that should he win government he will put the money from the “levy” into a special customer account and then dictate what you’re allowed to spend it on — solar panels are good, bread is off the list — is a special kind of madness.
Update: Lorne Gunter concurs.
Governments picking winners in what would otherwise be the free market. It can work (see “crony capitalism” and “facism”) but it won’t produce as good of results as government maintaining intellectual property rights, running fair courts, and government staying the hell away from the market.
Want choices? Be free. Want shortages? Put government in charge of supplies.
Late night Kate? I hope all is well. God bless.
It’s not so late here.
“What is this man thinking?” and that was Rex’s first mistake! He naturally assumed that O’Fool had a brain to think with. The CPC gave up all semblance of ever forming a government in Canada when they lost the election in 2015. END OF STORY!!!!!
Like hello?? We got more votes that Justin did the last election!! Why would we give up on winning??
I don’t know who will win the next election, however my guess is that it won’t be Max!!
I’m guessing that Canada won’t be a winner after the next election, either.
When is a conservative not a conservative? When he is a liberal named O’Toole. I was a card carrying, nominating committee, financial supporting conservative many years ago. The party left me, with their constant leaning to the left and social policies no better or different than the liberals. Until those in the conservative party wake up and realize that our system is broken and pandering to left will not fix it, conservatives will never win another election. Let’s face it P D, 65% of Canadians support socialism in one from or another.
Not quite sure I agree with you there, VOWG
65% think we have free health care
5% (?) vote for their local strong/rich man and along tribal lines just as they did in the old country, not being told to adopt Canadian ways. The Libs need only rope these guys in.
0.5% do what the chief tells them; I actually met that on the doorstep
15% vote to keep or get more free stuff
15% don’t vote due to apathy
20% don’t vote out of cynicism
95% don’t want to get involved – they are involved whether they like it or not
35% think Trudeau is wonderful
15% are young and stupid
15% care about social and moral issues, equally split on each side of each issue.
No one cares about the deficit
Everyone cares about taxes.
OK If you were planning an election campaign as a Conservative, which sector of the popular mind would you work on?
I guess if they adopt the complete liberal party policy agenda they might get a majority with 36 or 37% of the vote. Canadians do not have minds that can be worked on, most want something for nothing.
You forgot one sub-group – new Canadian women from other countries, who do not speak English well. Their husbands tell them how to vote, for Liberals, of course.
Plainz Drifter
” We got more votes that Justin did”
when you rig an election , that’s how you convince the looser it was fair , and not rigged!
Its a guarantee that Canadian conservatives won’t be winning the next election because Max won’t win and the CPC aren’t conservative.
“and the CPC aren’t conservative”
Neither is Maxime. Since when is a cult conservative?
Not that it matters who wins the next Canaduh election, given that the East hates the West.
Ooz take your meds, and try to git over your stupidity. I feel sorry for you, having mental issues and all!
At least Max has a conservative platform, so he knows what conservatism actually is, you and the COLON don’t!
I have a problem with any politician from Quebec. We have had far far too many! Don’t trust them.
So our very own Western Parasites are somehow superior?
Kenny your kind of conservative?
Or Ford?
Or The now dead Global warming guy?
Ask me again after Kenney loses. I’m not voting for him next election and nobody I know will either.
If Kenney resigns then he is superior to Bernier, he will be acting responsibly.
If Kenney retains the UCP leadership without a confidence vote as Bernier has done, then Kenney will be equal to Bernier.
Nevertheless, it is your contention that Maxime is conservative becasue of his rhetoric. Mere talk doesn’t cut it.
When Maxime was Minister of Foreign Affairs he left his briefcase, during war-time, in the custody of a person who is an asset of an International Crime Organization. That is very irresponsible behaviour.
Just one example of Maxime Bernier’s irresponsible behaviour. I could cite more.
“At least Max has a conservative platform”~NME666
Yes he does, which is why he helped Trudeau get reelected by splitting the conservative vote.
Adults will know to watch what people DO rather than to merely listen to what they SAY.
Maxime talks the talk but he doesn’t walk the walk. Irresponsible is who Maxime Bernier is.
Yes. 4 more years of self-absorbed, arrogant Trudeau. Erin o’Toole has firmly made it impossible to vote for him. I can get away with not voting for him in my urban western riding, as the last conservative to win here was Kim Campbell. But I will be sending a message by not voting CPC, and most certainly not enriching the election bank account with donations, such that his “popular vote” total should and will be in the trash can. Don’t they get it yet – lose your base and you are nothing? He totally lied.
I never voted for Erin as leader, as I thought red Mackay was more experienced and had a better chance of unseating Trudeau and actually running a reasonably effective government, although I am a big fan of Pierre Poilievre, who did not run. I was right. Erin O’Toole is a loser. He and his advisors are significantly annoying the base and the carbon tax proposal is the final straw. Max understands western Canadians far more than Erin does.
L – Rex nails it: “Last seen falling off his *horse on the road to Green Damascus,” followed by
“It is an old and infallible biblical warning that “He that diggeth a **pit shall fall into it.”
*(rocking horse)
**(“it’s getting warmer the farther down I dig.” O’Clown was heard to remark.)
***( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79llXVDWbCQ Dig gravedigger, dig – Corb Lund)
Hey Kate,
Random thoughts from the cheap seats…..
“Coulda Had Max”
I look at it as…..
“Shoulda Had Max”
Although at the rate we are going we had better pour some coal on and heat up the boiler on the WEXIT train before we run out of track. Fascism has already arrived. A polish doctor friend tells about how it was there before he left……..he didn’t think it would follow him here.
Cheers!
PS: The new woke description of Fascism as per Cambridge Dictionary: Fascism develops from right-wing extremism, supported traditionally by the middle classes, in contrast to Communism.
Yup. Because the left has such respect for learning from history, and accurately reporting and reflecting upon it.
National Socialist Workers Party has nothing in the name that would indicate “right-wing”.
Careful now….haha…..you are very close to being cancelled……..You do know Truth is not allowed! We must tow the party line….Antifa is Antifascist….Cancelling everything you don’t agreed with so you won’t be triggered.
Liberals are….well liberal, except: Oxford defines it as……A supporter of a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy and free enterprise: “Classical liberals emphasized the right of the individual to make decisions, even if the results dismayed their neighbors or injured themselves”
How far we have fallen from that definition…….we are truly a sad country…..Let’s try and get it back, shall we?
Thanks C, I always enjoy your take and clarity on matters!
Cheers,
Peter
Peter
My freind from a “socialist” country, run by communists feels the same way!
Give me a party to vote for that isn’t retarded. The LPC, NDP and the CPC have all abandoned reasonable thought in favour of virtue signaling the few that are triggered.
Don’t forget the Greentards in that list, omission can be interpreted as approval. Even though their presence is virtually irrelevant, they deserve to be listed as abandoning reasonable thought. They were the trailblazers.
I think you found the “NAME”.
The Non-retarded Party of Canada.(Stop the steal)
“Retards of Canada”for short.
Which would choke the media parrots up in all kinds of ways.
As the “R” word is forbidden.
The Uni-Party believes they rule so have let their cover slip.
The masks are off.Gang Green struts forth from their covert roles,demanding we accept their superiority.
Revealing their take over of all established “Parties”.
Never seen a career politician that could turn down another chance to steal,the Tool is just another parasite,here to help us..
Sooner we separate from these fools and bandits,the better off our children will be.
With the proper actions,their children will be able to buy up the Remains of Canada for a few barrels of crude.
Conservatism is flat out DEAD in Canada as a whole.
That started the day Pierre was elected…
I voted conservative for a few decades…but since even before Harper who failed IMO, things were already moving LEFT. The Lack of any substantive disagreement over same sex marriage a good example.
I No long support or will vote for these turncoat bastards….and tell them precisely why when they call me begging for money.
I would urge ALL Westerners to VOTE: MAVERICK.
Voting CON is Beyond IDIOCY……seriously, Just look at who has basically turned TRAITOR..? Kenney – O’Toole and all those MP’s/MLA’s who keep their Mouths shut…+ the voters who follow those assholes.
“What is he thinking?” He’s thinking that:
1) Anybody believes him, most especially that anybody believes him when he says it’s not a tax
2) Canadians are strung-out over global warming, to the point we welcome new taxes
3) the only way to win the next election is to out-liberal the Liberals
4) Once he’s PM, he can gently back-away from extreme SJW-ism and we’ll still support him… and most egregiously
5) after pi$$ing on his grassroots, and showing himself to be just another “Oh well when I said _________ (fill-in the blanks) I didn’t really mean it”, he’s ever gonna’ get elected again for ANYTHING.
Goodbye mister tool.
“We HAVE to get the message on the street – we REALLY REALLY care about global warming!!!”
“Uhh, Canadians don’t really give a $hit about global warming*, dude…” -_-
– Or rather – Canadians really DO give a $hit about CAGW – right up to the point that it starts to cost us money.
I can’t figure out whether he euthanized the “Conservative” party humanely, or blew its brains out with a 12 gauge. Probably euthanasia, he would have missed with a shot gun. *
Either way, long gone for me, and I will stay home with a clear conscience.
* to be fair, a small target.
Harper started the process by slowly smothering us with a pillow.
The media and Harper’s pitiful successors were obviously more than happy to finish the job.
When all the candidates are rotten, I’ll spoil my ballot.
From the early 1980s to just before Prinz Dummkopf was “elected” the first time, I either spoiled my ballots or voted Rhino. None of the candidates spoke for me or represented my views and, frankly, weren’t worth voting for.
We should have write in box like they do in the U.S.
“Why isn’t Erin O’Toole storming around the country raging at the Trudeau government’s deadly failures?”
“Instead of handing the regime a blank cheque for reelection by saying “Spending to protect Canadians during the pandemic is the right thing to do and Conservatives have supported it,” he should have exposed the Liberal response to the coronavirus as the shambles and the disgrace that it has been.”
Source: Erin O’Toole promised boldness and change. We’re still waiting
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-erin-otoole-promised-boldness-and-change-were-still-waiting
Trudeau’s decision to partner with and rely on the CCP (CanSino) for the development of a vaccine was a strategic failure for Canada. The Canadian disaster that is COVID-19 flows from that decision and from the Government’s failure to partner with the US Administration, our largest trading partner, to be a part of operation WARP SPEED. Trudeau and the Liberals chose to virtue signalling their moral superiority to Canada and the world over and above the health and well being of Canadians.
You have to admit this latest move by O’Toole’s constitutes ‘boldness and change’.
Yeah Art, that was my thought as well. Bold as brass, and changed to liberalism.
Certainly bold to stand up and refute over fifty percent of his base on climate change, and he’ll be changing his underwear when he’s spanked in the next election.
I’m done, out, as said above, I too, will stay home with a clear conscience!
We all know the libs , dippers and greens are scrambling over themselves to get a better seat on the climate express but who would have ever thought that a so called conservative would join their ranks . Unfortunately for hard working Canadians ” The die is cast ” and there is not a hell of lot they can do about it .
“What is this man thinking?”
He is not …. on either count. He is a yellow little sockpuppet who allows himself to be completely controlled by his advisors: silly little poli-sci grads schooled by Marxist hypocrites.
And he has the backing of the entire Conservative caucus … which is quite a feat when you consider that jellyfish have no spine.
“…silly little poli-sci grads…”
You hit the nail on the head right there.
Those characters are completely, utterly, useless group of nobody’s trying to strategize what they learned in from the communist professors.
Yeah, it sucks.
What to do?
I honestly think the majority of Canadians are looking for some kind of rule book to live from. For most the Bible isn’t part of their lives anymore. Progressives deal in social abstracts so that accountability cannot be measured. They love their assumed intellectual superiority and have convinced many that governing is simply to complicated for the common Joe & Jane. A big enough % of the voters either prefer the Big Daddy to make their decisions for them or they simply like the “free stuff” the Libs hand out.
The CPC seems to think they can out reason voters away from the Libs. In otherwards they are doubling down on the social abstract game. They will lose. People are looking for more certainty. Conservatives seem to have forgot that Bernier lost the leadership to Scheer by less than 1% of the vote. I would suggest that if Bernier had not been a Quebecer he would have won. Bernier was actually talking about the conservative principals that formed the Party but that have been eroded by successive leaders. The CPC has done a brutal job in educating their grassroots and have absolutely abandoned any effort to engage membership with a avenue for feedback.
When the next election happens I will be voting Wexit if there is a candidate. Failing that I will vote PPC. The CPC will lose seats in the West. The ignorance within the Party is stunning. It appears there is no check on those who are directing the party. It appears their intent is to re-elect the Libs with a majority. Ultimately that might be what it takes to effect real change. A Lib majority will finally galvanize the West towards a separate country.
Progressives deal in social abstracts so that accountability cannot be measured. A very good line! More than that, the world-view is disjointed enough that similarities and links across issues are not recognized.
This, to me, is how the slap-dash responses from The Toole arise – no consistent approach to life and how to live it can mean that the blind squirrel analogy (can sometimes find his nuts) will result in many cases where the approach to issues just look nuts from an ideological point of view.
Sadly we are in a vote for the lessor of two evils situation. We need to get rid of Hair Trudeau and there’s only one option, vote for the Tool or put up and shut up.
LizzardJ are you really that stupid, voting CPC sends the message they are on script, voting PPC sends the message they are on the wrong road. You , like Ooz and the colon, and a few others are suicidal idiots,try learning from your past mistakes, and not repeating them!
No Liz J, there are other options. But most on Canada’s so-called right are too chicken or too comfortable or too childish … which is why it is stuck with NO’Tool.
That’s it in a nutshell.
Yes, I agree for tight race ridings. Hold nose and vote CPC. O’Toole is better than Trudeau, by a slim measure. At least, I hope that he would appoint normal cabinet ministers and not embarrass our county too much with “wokeness”. My riding is never conservative. It always goes Liberal, and I want the CPC to know that I hate their proposed policies. I can “afford” to protest here. In critical ridings, I agree. Hold your nose, vote CPC and fix Erin’s stupid policy agenda later.
I do not think that Erin is a good leader, as he is fast to get rid of strong people. Excellent leaders involve and incorporate them with shared goals.
Not sure what the point is in electing conservatives to be in opposition when they don’t even do that anymore. Nope. Screw them.
“Not sure what the point is in electing conservatives to be in opposition when they don’t even do that anymore”
Exactly. As Kate says: They had/have one job to do …
I’ll vote for the first political party that calls the climate scam what it is, a scam. The first party that vows to arrest and charge with high treason, any politician that accepted a single penny from any non Canadian source. The first political party that will arrest and put people in prison for theft of taxpayer dollars, and I include any and every hack working for the government who scammed a free meal, no, even a free cup of coffee.
If as I suspect, none can be found I will stay at home and tend my own affairs.
I simply will not, ever again, vote for the lesser of two evils!
Evil is evil, and you don’t get a pass simply because it is a lesser evil, a simple fact that most so called Christians don’t seem to get.
That party is called the People’s Party of Canada. Check out their environment policies:
https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/global-warming-environment
And then check out the rest of their platform.
Yea…tried that the last time…
If “I want a New country” is what you seek, Why da hell would you vote for some turncoat POS like O’FOOL.???
MAVERICK is for me, the only way forward for the WEST.
Unfortunately, 2 generations of kids were brainwashed in our schools.
While I taught at Armpit College, we had a staff association that, in theory, spoke for and defended its membership. However, during my time there, we had a number of presidents who were lackeys of the institution’s senior administration.
It seemed like whenever the administration took away certain privileges in a new contract, those presidents would not only agree with it, but tried to convince my colleagues and me that we were getting a good deal.
By being administration lapdogs, those presidents lost credibility and few of my colleagues took the staff association seriously.
O’Foole reminds me of some of those presidents.
I’d say, “Unbelievable!” but it isn’t. There is no conservative party and O’Toole is, obviously, a tool. Gutless poltroons all.
The left is pretty much unopposed at this point. Anything they want to do to us they will. We are entirely at the mercy of morally bankrupt buffoons who begrudge us the portion of our paycheque they still graciously allow us to keep.
All conservative eyes are on the US now. If Republicans fail, the assault on the individual will continue. The day when people are locked up for their political beliefs actually does appear to be on the horizon given all that is going on today.
At least Mulroney was smart enough to wait until after he was elected before selling out his supporters
Erin O’Toole is a liberal plant whose only purpose is to keep Justin in power. Prove me wrong.
“Erin O’Toole is a liberal plant whose only purpose is to keep Justin in power. Prove me wrong.”
I wish I could just laugh at that comment, but I can’t.
O’Toole lost me during the leadership race, when the Quebec dairy cartel bought him. That one action was enough to convince me that he was just another Liberal in disguise,
Mad Max was in Barrie, Ontario yesterday getting his Pandemic ticket.
He had about 500 supporters show up too.
Could be alot more but our media tends to lie.
And when they don’t lie, they ignore, interpretation, “it doesn’t exist”.
The average Canadian is lazy and swallows the swill, unquestioned, from the deceitful media, regardless of the brand name or talking head expressing the propaganda, the message, in essence, is the same. Marxism good, knuckledraggers BAD.
We will look back at this time, as the moment that OFool sealed his fate, when the Progressive “conservatives” badly lose the next election. OFool will resign, but the damage will have been done.
Best thing that could happen, is Max gets a significant popular vote, even if no reps are elected, it will be clear where the conservative vote went, either to Max, or stayed home. Max has my vote next time out, its not even a question.
CGH.
“The CPC has done a brutal job in educating their grassroots and have absolutely abandoned any effort to engage membership with a avenue for feedback.”
Educating their grassroots”?
Grassroots never needed “educating”, in my opinion.Ignoring the grassroots has been a feature of the Conservatives since Harper’s last term.
The lack of leadership will continue to destroy the great Con of Confederated Canada,until the situation becomes so bleak that even the parasites are feasting on each other.
OToole is a perfect example ,just as Doug Ford and Jason Kenny..
Chasing polls and careful posturing do not make a person of character or conviction.
The Gal “Governing South Dakota ” has set a far better example of “leadership”,simply by her acknowledgement that there are more things in life than “Health Emergency”.
Reviewing our voting patterns of the last few decades seems to indicate that our Eastern Comrades share little in common with Westerners,tolerating a level of dishonesty we reject,regardless of consequences..as seen by Notley’s brief grasp on power.
For years the Ontario NDP kept blatantly crooked Liberals in power,now the Federal NDP are repeating that play,but the Eastern Voter keeps rewarding both groups.
The West told Mulroney’s crew to FOAD and Reform made possible the fiscal restrain that Cretin and Martin continued,except we learned our lesson.
Reform of a full blown Kleptocracy is impossible,using Robert’s Rules of Committees.
Grassroots have been refusing to vote for decades.
South of us Trump revealed what happens when a real alternative is on the ballot.
What % of Canadians no longer bother to vote?
Once enough western citizens accept the obvious,that we have nothing in common with the Parasitic Overload,then Separation/Independence will follow.
O’Stoole is working hard to give Dear Leader a majority government and lose the popular vote at the same time.
The worst part? He, like Robert Stanfield before him, just gave Dear Leader something absolutely stupid to impose upon us. I.e. “Farmers paying the tax can use the accumulated funds to acquire cow fart catchers.”
Pierre imposed Stanfield’s Wage and Price Freeze. Don’t be surprised if we get O’Stoole’s garbage after the next election despite the CPC being obliterated to one seat.
O’Toole has been very foolish to allow Liberals to set the agenda on this. I don’t believe climate change is a big issue for most Canadians. It is just a phony Liberal political ploy. In any event our country can do nothing about it. Period. O’Toole only needs to make that point — as often as necessary — and then shift the discussion to Liberal screw ups. Canada does not have to meet it’s Paris “commitments. ” I thought all these things were supposed to be voluntary. O’Toole could also highlight the damage being done by a carbon tax. An easy and solid argument to make.
The progressive conservatives have left a huge vacuum for any group representing individual choice and freedom to fill.
The Dread Covid fiasco has proven every “success of welfare Canada” as a lie.
We have no freedoms,no rights and no representatives willing to protect or promote these illusionary things.
“But Free Healthcare” after 14 months of imprisoning the citizens to “protect public healthcare” even that myth is dead and toxic.
“Charter of Rights and Freedoms”Lock ’em up,citizens only.
Freeloaders and self important exempt.
The State and all of its minions have served us notice,they will never stop “helping us” into slavery and penury..
No citizen, no matter how remote and self isolated, is exempt from the abuse and theft of our “helpers”.
And ..We are broke.
The cost of the help from these clueless,useless parasites has bankrupted the country.
But the “Loyal Opposition has played right along with the hysterics,forbidding us the right to live as we chose,cause they fear..
So incompetent they are unable to provide accurate information,yet they deny our ability to make choices in our own interests.
Hang them all.
These are Oath Breakers of the lowest order.
However if ever the marching morons are to be reached..This is the time.
For every social myth used to control the masses,has been exposed as cynical lies.
The Dread Covid has been a revelation.
We are so screwed.