Your Moral And Intellectual Superiors

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Jesse Brown: Stunt Journalist.

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  1. So, what’s the point?

    That he’s a far-left partisan, that luffs rainbow symbolism, and is calling out the empty symbolism of the snowbird flyovers?

    Mkay, but the Liberal mob will firebomb him and throw him under the bus nonetheless. They won’t follow one that goes off the Rez.

    His Twitter apology will come in 3…….2……..1…….

  2. Apparently this guy is too lazy to read the actual accounts. This was a routine flight from Kamloops to Comox. No stunts, no fanc flying, just up and down.
    It will be interesting to see if his attitude is mirrored in Ottawa and results in the Snowbirds demise.

    1. If we leave fighters on the ground, it’s much safer. Same “thinking” as the leave it in the ground watermelons.
      Agenda already in play iow. Meanwhile, yes, look at Snowbirds, more importantly the aged Tutors; nothing wrong with that.
      This kind of accident shakes people up; have seen Snowbird wreckage first hand, literally and figuratively, with 1989 CNE crash.
      Essential? That could be examined. Just not right now. Be careful out there; this could have been a bird strike.
      So my prediction is the government will surely muck this one up; of that I have no doubt, along the lines of “assault rifles.”

      1. The point of the Snowbirds flying making these flights is political, the Liberals want to make themselves look good. Distract attention from the lockdown with some shiny airplanes.

        The crash makes them look bad. But it can be seen as an opportunity to make them look good if they use it as a propaganda exercise again. Shutting down the Snowbirds program and blaming the CPC for not buying them new airplanes is the type of thing they’re thinking of right now, you may be sure.

        But then the Snowbirds exist as a propaganda exercise in the first place. Air shows are military propaganda. “Look how great we are!”

        Should pilots die for that? Depends on who is in power and what their goals are, doesn’t it?

        Now, the joke is that pilots will line up for a chance to be in an airshow team and fly those stunts. If you take the propaganda part out, daredevilry and stunt flying are natural. The first thing that happened after the first two working airplanes were made was the first air race.

  3. Shut down all flights over homes everywhere I tells you! Nothing needs to fly over anyones home!

    1. I guess that’ll have to include satellites as well, won’t it? After all, their orbital paths cross over a lot of people’s homes and nobody wants to get bonked on the head with any returning space junk, right?

      But will those whiners want to do without things like weather reports or, horrors!, their cell phone service or TV?

    2. There you go. We can resurrect the white elephant Mirabel Airport outside Montreal. There is nothing in the vicinity which is why is was such a commercial (un)success.

      1. Funny enough I had to catch a flight at Mirabel few years ago. I stopped in Blaineville to drop off my rental car. The local rental car counter wouldn’t drop me off at the airport and it was a damn trying time to get a cab there as the few locals I ran into didn’t believe that flights out of there were a thing. A lady told me there is no flights there and you don’t have any business going there!

        The aircraft I was on got lasered on departure. Good times.

        The area around Mirabel has sure grown in with homes. Greater Montreal has expanded like wildfire and Autoroute 50 is busy busy busy. I actually think a new terminal there would make more sense these days than when the airport was first built.

        1. Mirabel the ultimate white elephant was a supreme waste of money and patronage to Quebec built by Trudeau senior. I remember the extreme wtf irony when they decided to rename Dorval after him instead of the airport he was actually responsible for.

          4. slapshot’s link is missing a “t”, as in “airport”; still a nimby story. Since 1987 l have lived under the north glide path, near the outer marker beacon for runway 17 at YYC in Calgary and hear complaints from new neighbours about the noise from the planes (so “bad” that the city council issued a restriction on new development that planes might fly over lest they get more complaints). When I bought the house, I knew darn well that there would by air traffic noise (and noise from the nearby CP railyard, and noise from the nearby Blackfoot Truckstop), and I just took it as a sign that people still wanted to come and go from Calgary.

        2. The Denver airport was built way out in the wilds. Nothing around for miles and miles.
          Then, slowly but surely, houses started being built. More and more of them. For no other reason that that the airport was there.

          The “interesting” thing is, as you fly in you will notice that all of the housing development is right under the glide path (or take off path, depending on wind direction). I can just see thee petitions from the residents about noise from the airport, wanting to restrict hours, then even close down the airport until the new electric silent planes are deployed.

          Or, when an inevitable crash occurs, it will hit housing, which had wide open spaces away from traffic lanes to be built.

          1. The same thing happened with the Calgary airport. When it opened in the late 1970s, it was out in the middle of nowhere north of the city. But, over the years, that space was slowly filled in with houses and commercial buildings.

    3. Then I guess you would like to see a 100 mile radius around every airport devoid of development eh.??

      Take the bus and silence theyself…

    4. Can’t help thinking of a trainload of crude that should be in a pipeline crashing into a town and setting it on fire.

  4. Jesse is a former CBC journalist, current journalism critic and blogger, but can’t be bothered to do five minutes of research. The planes were taking off at the time of the crash, not “stunt flying.” I’m also not surprised that he lacks the empathy and class to maybe wait 24 or 48 hours before flinging out such bile.

      1. Full Che, no doubt. His resume included the CANADALAND website, a far far far far fare left site of garbage and propaganda

  5. Today’s public wants to be locked up in their homes until the government can guarantee that they will never get sick or feel bad, the public is extremely risk-averse, these are not the people that built this country like when the Snowbirds first flew.

    He’s probably right about the Snowbirds going away.

  6. I think he was one of the knuckleheads who wanted to shut down all active displays of military aviation because it might “traumatize” our new “Canadians”. After all, they all come from war zones and sounds of formation flying will only remind them of their previous circumstances.

    1. Shut down all things, we have a model now.

      No more fun or haircuts or scary airplanes or hugs or Church or guns our Liberty or unstructured play.

  7. I love air shows and admire the pilots and teams behind the scenes who make this equipment fly at the edge of performance.

    What I hate is our busted, politicized, procurement system which keeps all our armed forces in creaking second or third rate equipment.

    Shutting down the snowbirds misses the point and will not fix how badly damaged our bureaucracy functions.

    1. If a first-rate military item can’t be made in Quebec…there will be craptastic ones whose parent companies are more than willing to license the production to Quebec. Case in point, the Iltis replaced the venerable WW2/Korean era jeeps in the mid to late-80s. Concurrentlly, the Americans replaced their jeeps around the same time-frame with the Humvee. In Canada, Chretien the Cretin decided against the Humvee and picked the Iltis (which failed all the operational driving tests the CF puts all vehicles through prior to procurement) because Bombardier was able to get a license from Volkswagen to build it in Quebec. The Iltis proved useless once the bullets started flying in Afghanistan–it wasn’t used outside the confines of the base in Kandahar. Conversely, the Americans cut a hole in the roof of their Humvees, mounted a .50 cal machine gun, put in a sling seat for the gunner, WELDED steel plates on to the doors for extra protection (prior to the up-armoured Humvees being produced) and attached a huge air-conditioner at the rear of their vehicles and drove it all over the place. See the difference between flexible and operationally useful versus “yet another perq for Quebec–who cares if the troops die”?

      1. Favill, re the Iltis. A relative who served in the Armed Forces followed the Iltis debacle , and found that the costs were wildly escalated when the Quebec company got the cotract to build them. I don’t remember the exact figures but they were in the ball park of : Made in Germany $10000, made in Canada $35,000.
        His research found the Canadian made vehicles were WAY higher priced but made exactly the same. Bombardier is of course complicit with the government in this as in SO many other instances.
        The Iltis manufacturing by Bombardier was begun in 1984 and continued to 1988, under the government of Quebec Liberal Brian Mulroney. It’s SO good to know that the corruption in Canada never ceases no matter which color of tie the PM wears.

      2. The Iltis is a not-very-upgraded Volkswagen Thing with a Rabbit diesel engine. It is too small to do anything useful, it is gutless and it breaks easy. Also completely useless off road, an inch of mud will get one stuck. But that was okay because it was basically used as a golf cart by officers cruising around Borden or Petawawa anyway.

        But the important thing was that it replaced the Korean War flat-head four banger Willies jeeps the CF were still driving. We’re talking a WWII design stretched into the 1950s by the Americans, standardized by the Canadian Forces and then maintained for about 30 years beyond its best-before date. It was always too small and it was always under-powered, but at least it was capable in the rough.

        Fast forward to now, what are Canadian Forces driving? Mercedes G-Wagens. Its a Mom car SUV with, again, a gutless diesel. Awesome for cruising Ottawa, less good for cruising north of Yellowknife in winter.

        Now try to imagine what’s been going on with the CF-18 fleet. Or the Navy. The mind recoils from the horror.

        1. I knew someone who had some association with the army during the mid-1980s (reserves, I think). He wasn’t all that impressed with the Thing.

          As for the Rabbit engine, I have some personal experience with the gasoline version. My first car was one and, as I remember, it had a 1.4 litre engine which put out less than 80 HP. It was gutless when passing on the highway.

          I’ve been driving its descendant, a Golf, for nearly 30 years. The engine is bigger (1.8 litres) and it puts out around 120 HP. That makes all the difference on the highway.

          But, by comparison, I inherited my father’s Dodge TurboRam 4 x 4 with a 6.7 litre Cummins diesel engine. Much better.

  8. If it saves just one life… I say ban all military assault style aircraft. That includes everything with a jet engine.

    1. We could ban all cars: they’ve crashed into houses and killed people.

      Same with trucks.

      Same with trains which go through populated areas all over the country.

      Let’s also ban electricity. Too many house fires started by electrical problems.

      Etc.

  9. As a comparison, the two passenger training aircraft used by the performance team is designed for ease of use. That’s what makes it a trainer, it gives the operator time to correct and learn how to fly a jet aircraft before getting into something less forgiving. This isn’t a dig at the pilots or the team. It’s a fact that we have very few actual combat aircraft to use for public affairs and have to make due with what we have.
    Compare and contrast to the USAF and USN demonstration teams that use actual fighter aircraft to demonstrate the power and capability of US air power.
    If our bureaucracy deems it sufficient to demonstrate our air capability by having our fighter pilots fly old model training aircraft I would concur that we are not fooling anyone so let’s call it a day and get serious about the tools we give the forces.

    1. LOOK no further than to the FRENCH LIBERAL COWARDS that have run this country’s military into the ground. Subs that only sink – no tanks to speak of – flying 50 yr old F-18’s that belong in museums – Bright green Camo in Afganistan where everything is dust brown coloured – Helo’s that were deemed unsafe in the mid ’60’s and we flew them till the mid 2000’s….Until 2010, no Air transport capability – the BS of Unification back in the 70’s…the list is endless and ongoing.

      Strange that I am unable to find ANY “French Military Victories’ over the past 500 yrs. In Fact Google used to ask you: “did you mean French military Defeats..?”

      RIP to those that lost their lives in this terrible accident. Kudo’s to those that keep flying….I SUPPORT you 100%.

    2. I agree with Joseph. The planes used by the Snowbirds, the Canadair CT-114 Tutor, are very old, reasonably quiet, easy to fly training planes, now phased out of service. Our demonstration team needs to fly a current fighter jet. Unfortunately, the Air Force doesn’t have any aircraft fitting that description. In that sense, the Snowbirds exemplify exactly what’s wrong with the Department of Defence, and by extension, the Government.

  12. I am saddened that a member of our armed forces has been killed in this incident and I realize that what follows may be considered to be nasty:
    I think that it is a metaphor for the ridiculousness of a Federal Cabinet and the near total absence of rational opposition in the handling of the circumstances Canada finds itself in.

    Apologies to Kate for going off-topic. Addressing that, I didn’t know anything about Jessie Brown until today. At first glance he appears to be what I would call a left-wing jerk. Certainly not my moral or intellectual superior.
    He can be a jerk if he likes. As long as he’s not getting any pennies from me to keep his schtick going.

  13. An aircraft taking off is not “stunt flying”. What an absolute idiot this guy is.

  15. Jesse Brown.

    Illustrating perfectly once again, the complete Shithole that the TWITTERverse is.
    1 Stupid Comment borne of utter ignorance and voila, the floodgates of MASS Leftist IGNORANT Arrogance piles on.

    RIP to the pilot – whom I fully believe did EVERYTHING possible to prevent a catastrophe…it’s called training. RIP to those on the ground that got caught up in this tragic accident.

    Per Ardua Ad Astra

    1. The pilot isn’t dead. And there were no casualties on the ground (unless you want to count the dead public affairs officer who was the passenger and died probably at impact with the ground or with something on the ground.) The pilot is expected to recover, at least physically. (I expect he’s going to have a hard time convincing himself he did everything possible to prevent a catastrophe, even if the investigation comes to that conclusion.)

  16. Brown is just trying to assume the role of the Simpsons character of a woman who interjects into every issue “but the children, who will think of the children”! I do hope he finds decent work some day, losers deserve a chance even if they are likely to blow it.

    1. The problem is that nobody’s hiring professional speed bumps.

        1. They can leave … the facilities behind. And the NATO training role. And as individuals they can stay, if they want to be one of us.

  19. Canucks gonna canuck.

    Maybe it is a good time to shut down the snowbirds. They represent the tyrannical forces of imperialist canada exerting her power and dominance over the state of Alberta and it’s citizenry. End Canadian hegemony now!

  20. This was the dominant Democretin attitude during San Francisco’s annual “Fleet Week” celebrations. Constant chatter … and even votes in the SF Board of Stuporvisors to SHUT DOWN “Fleet Week” demonstrations of WAR making equipment. As a result, the BRAC … base closing commission during the Clinton Admin. SHUT DOWN the Alameda Naval Air Station … and virtually every other military installation in the SF Bay Area. So now, the Bay Area is a “War making Free Zone” (although we still have Fleet Week celebrations).

    Canada should pull all military installations out of all Marxist Canadian cities. And take all the well-paying blue collar jobs with them. Who knows? Maybe you’ll find jet mechanics who actually LIKE what they do … and love the military … out in the hinterlands of Canada?

  22. Brown is a douchebag.
    I read further down the thread. Full of more douche bags.
    Some idiot stick said some immigrants hide under the bed. Pfft. They should be happy they have a bed, fucking ingrates.

    1. You heathen! That’s Canada’s very own Sarah Polley, Star of stage and screen, Road to Avonlea , no less!
      Sheesh, some people have no culture, others, no clue, lol!

      Oh, and /s if not obvious!

  23. The primary purpose of Leftists is to control others. They start by chastising anything & everything that others enjoy. When that doesn’t work, they then enact legislation to outlaw those things.

    Devolution of a Leftist:
    1. Daddy issues.
    2. Turn into yapping “Karens”.
    3. Lie to get into office.
    4. Seize whatever power they can to enact more crippling laws against the activities of others.
    5. Eventually, if allowed, use violence against all those who dare stand up to them.

  24. Non-flight safety officer comments, so I am speculating, or perhaps an educated guess.

    Listen to retired RCAF general and former Snowbird pilot describe why he thinks the striken Tutor veered off.

    To gain enough altitude to give more time to assess the situation, probably try a re-start, then eject if necessary.

    https://www.facebook.com/cbcnews/videos/243702050295562/UzpfSTExMTYzMjY4MzE6MTAyMjI1MDcxNTE4ODM2Njc/

    I can’t help wondering wondering about a bird strike. In any event, did Capt MacDougall stay with the aircraft too long?

    I doubt it for two reasons, as a flight safety officer once told me about these incidents, “it’s a busy time,” so we can’t be sure what he was up to, plus he had a passenger, so would have been more inclined to punch out.

    Check out this video of a single engine F16C cockpit camera when it encounters a bird strike, as the pilot then calmly tries to save the fighter, attempts a restart, while trying to gain altitude and failing that, has to punch out.

    What is most remarkable is once the decision is made how quickly the plan plummets to the deck. Eerie similarity imho.

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/5892/this-bird-strike-reminds-us-it-doesnt-take-a-missile-to-down-a-fighter

    1. The investigation will find the cause, but it looks like he lost the engine of take off and zoomed up to try to re-start and get into a better ejection envelope. Probably the worse place to lose the engine. Those old ejection seats are also nasty, by the way.

      1. Or an elevator failure, like the Galloping Ghost P-51 Mustang at the Reno Air Races in 2011, went into an uncontrollable climb, then pitched down, right into the crowd.
        I hope the Captain will be able to clear up all of our speculation once he recovers.

  25. well why not ban cars, people get killed in road accidents

    why not ban lawn mowers, people lose toes in lawn mowers accident

    let s ban everything and anything that may cause injury or death

    sewing needles, toothpicks ban all that, ban everything everything!

    let s do what the left wants, let s ban everything and become house plants and let s never leave our homes.

    oh and lets ban soap, some people step on it in the shower fall and die.

    let s ban everything!

  26. Not to disparage our fly boys, but as a message to Jesse Brown, the only reason you are allowed to spout the opinions you hold is because of men like these that fly weapons like these.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JESy0CnYPw

    If the majority of Canadians could put away their security blankets and teddy bears and pull their heads out of their *rses,perhaps our boys could be flying with these guys in a 21st. Century Arrow, instead of thirty year old Tudors. How great would that be!!!!!

    1. Your display is an ignorant opinion we can do without at this time; actually any time; that’s what we can ill afford.

    2. Hey Undork: Cretins like you & moron Liberals are an extravagance Canada’s military & electorate can’t afford.

  29. The Canadian military is underfunded by almost half, and equipment purchases are about 10% of that expenditure, somewhat under the NATO suggested 20% for equipment.

    I think a demonstration team is well within the ability of the Canadian military, the problem is that the Liberals / NDP don’t agree.

    Hopefully when the west separates we’ll have a demonstration team with some sort of current military jet. It’ll be helpful for our egos while the Old Canadian citizens are planting gardens where their front lawns used to be, so they don’t starve in the harsh Canadian winters.

    The western and newly free Canada made up of separated provinces, can fund this military primarily with funds they no longer send to the eastern welfare dependencies.

  30. You know what else flies over peoples’ homes and crashes into them? The CBC.

  33. You can get a brand new F15EX (new updated Strike Eagle) for somewhere around $100 million cdn give or take. Boeing might even give us a deal. Instead of paying Quebec to shut down our pipelines and hurl insults in our general direction, Alberta could buy 15 Boeing F15EX’s for air shows and have enough left over for operating expenses etc and have another 100 of them sitting around just in case. Yearly. (would Alberta have to pay GST?)

    With the price of fuel these days we could also afford to fly a 5 jet formation over Brown’s house a few times a day. Maybe go halfers with Saskatchewan even. 🙂

  35. Anyone else sick and tired of this national pride around giving our troops crap equipment? It always goes like this: our guys get junk equipment but are trained so much better than those damn Americans! Wow yeah be proud. Send them off to die for you under equipped. Then when they get home screw their pensions up. What a sick joke of a 3rd rate place is this? I want a new country.

    1. Poor little Omar is a war veteran and the government treated him well. (sarcasm = off)

    2. “…are trained so much better than those damn Americans…”

      I don’t believe it is so.

  36. So I’m thinking this Jesse Brown is all for banning military style arms also, as of the events a couple of weeks back, eh?
    Yah! He’s getting what he covets – notoriety!
    A$$wh0le!

  37. The vast majority of Canadians probably support having the Snowbirds. Even my wife and I wentb outside to see them fly over Frederic6on a few days ago. The anti-military left — well-represented in the corporate media — would want the Snowbirds to go for being “militaristic”, even though the hard left has succeeded in eliminating our military as a serious force. Mr. Watters is part of this group. Many in the conservative right, embittered by the loss of an effective military, don’t really care for having the Snowbirds.

    One problem is that conservatives and moderates have never bothered to organize and support a viable pro-military advocacy group. When Justin Trudeau went after Vice Admiral Mark Norman, the latter had to rely on his circle of friends to raise money for his defence. Norman had got into trouble with the Liberal government, for moving the construction of a desperately needed naval supply ship forward. The Liberals were so hysterically anti-military, they were trying to kill the supply shop after it had been approved. Yet outside of a few conservative writers supporting Norman, the establishment media and others looked the other way during the persecution of Admiral Norman.

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