The Bloc Quebecois will introduce a motion in Parliament Tuesday calling on the government to kill the proposed Frontier Teck mine in northern Alberta, the Western Standard has learned. Bloc leader Yves-François Blanchet will introduce a motion: “That the House call on the government to not authorize the Teck Frontier mine development, as this project can not be reconciled with the Paris Agreement targets.”
Sorry, link fixed.
This is excellent news.
WEXIT
Alberta + Saskatchewan need to go.
Separate, get your pipelines to go south, sell your oil, expand your wealth & keep your own money.
Everywhere east of Winnipeg is toxic for Saskaberta.
First, get rid of Kenney & Moe the #LibCons
#WEXIT
As I have said before, we need to separate at the MB/ON border, build a pipeline from AB to the port of Churchill, MB and get the product to market.
Totally agree. Hudson Bay has seasonal, not multi-year ice, so could be made into a 12 month port with icebreakers. The Russians do it, why can’t we?
The Russians can do it because they will. We can’t because we won’t.
Check out what Moe and Jason should do while we wait for separation! Hope the boys are on to this—–My comment at the end!
Perhaps the Honourable Member from Calgary Nose Hill could slip in an amendment to ban off shore oil imports for the same reasoning.
Yes, and not only a threat, should bring actual bill to debate.
And an amendment to ban a certain cement plant in the Gaspesie?
And then All Albertan MPs to quit the CPC Caucus and sit as Independent Albertan MPs if a single CPC member votes for it.
I agree. Who put these interlopers up to this heinous act of interference into another province’s business? They should mind their own business and clean up their own act.
Le Fleuve Saint Laurent n’est pas votre toilette. (~_^)
PS the Ab MPs would be too chicken to sit as independents should that happen!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/mcinnis-cement-plant-jobs-greenhouse-gas-1.4306422
– And then Jason Kenney should announce he’ll use the Notwithstanding clause to go ahead with it anyway. But I suppose, Jason Kenney should do anything, rather than the nothing he’s doing…
Close. I think an amendment banning the shipment of Alberta propane anywhere east of Manitoba – with the same rationale, supporting the Paris accorde – might be even better.
Jack – it’s absolutely what needs to be done.
Then they’ll just import it from the USA, and the USA gets handed a win again (while Canada loses, again). And they’re not even in this fight.
Import from the US? Yes, quite possibly, but remember the angst in la Belle Province last November due to a propane shortage? Over 80% of Québec’s propane comes, I think, come from the prairies and is shipped by rail. When CN staff went on strike, stopping the eastward flow of propane, they went nuts. Linking the PQ motion to block construction in Alberta to something they need daily would get their attention.
– And not even that – it gets better! If this nonsense continues, Alberta (or rather, ManSaskAlbWesternOntarioEasternBC) WILL separate. And the Canadian dollar will go straight down the pipe – < 50c U.S. – and never come back. And then the Easterners can all buy their propane in U.S. dollars and get HAMMERED on the exchange rate.
But they WILL have one consolation – no more need to try to block an Alberta oil pipeline.
Awwwwwwww…
And use the same reasoning to shut down manufacturing Canadair planes in Quebec.
This is one province basically declaring war on another. But of course Quebec will still expect its baksheesh.
We ain’t bribing you and the last I heard it wasn’t anywhere near Keybec so pound sand. The US under a real leader never signed on to the accord and they have outperformed all signatories on plant food generation. Remember Je me souviens…you LOST.
This is the exact reason why provincial governments were given exclusive domain of their natural resources. Quebec should not be allowed to control Alberta’s natural resources via the federal government. Teck resources abided by all the rules and regulations. Alberta wants it. The aboriginal people living in the area support the project. But the federal Liberal Party will only tally the votes gained or lost, a political game instead of a rules based decision. Anyone who doesn’t see the unfairness of this situation, where Quebec separatists get to control Alberta’s economy, must be blind and stupid.
It’s also why “social license” is bullshit. It’s a one sided deal where Alberta has to endlessly appease their enemies without any guarantee that the so-called social license will allow development. It’s just an endless blackmail shakedown.
Re: “The aboriginal people living in the area support the project. ”
A positive note, a local Metis band has stated they will sue the feds if the project is cancelled. They have signed an agreement with Teck regarding the project development.
Yes, pro-development aboriginal people need to have their voices heard. Liberal progressive eco-colonialist, with the help of the urban based media, are attempting to silence aboriginals who want the jobs, money and hope the come with economic growth.
The Alberta and Saskatchewan governments should offer funds to help the pro-development side with their legal challenges. After all, foreign entities are being allowed to fund the eco-colonialist side against pro-development aboriginal people. Why is the federal Liberal government harming aboriginal economic growth almost exclusively against bands located in western Canada?
If this motion is tabled, a petition needs to be circulated in Alberta demanding a referendum on a Unilateral Declaration of Independence from the post national state.
If Saskatchewan doesn’t go with it, I guess I’ll have to emigrate again.
Manitoba as well. We do have a port to offer.
Even the prospect of this kind of interference will kill future investment in anything.
The oil issue is just a symptom of the larger problem, Canadas abandonment of the rule of law. Can Canada be fixed, yes, but the effort would be huge and require cooperation from all, too many in the east would fight every step of the way to prevent and subvert all attempts at fixing Canada, so we should go, and let the East sort itself out after they collapse.
Geographically, the best place to amputate would be a straight line from somewhere on Hudson’s Bay east of the port of Churchill to some point east of Thunder Bay, giving us a port on the Great Lakes, too. Not as sure about other factors.
If Manitoba goes I will be delighted. If she doesn’t I’ll be moving.
A western Republic comprised of Alberta, Saskatchewan & Manitoba would be in a strong economical position. Churchill exports potash, oil & gas, they strictly enforce borders and immigration, keep their own revenues and prosper long term. No more welfare – unless you are handicapped, etc. No more foreign aid either.
A leader among western nations.
Separation is the correct response.
This country is absolutely screwed,there is no salvation or or even the will to turn it around. We can never satisfy the special people { IE: indigenous,immigrants and french kwebeckers } so its either abdicate all rule of law and what was supposed to be a confederation based on fair representation or get to he!! out ASAP. I want out.
Here is the link to the actual story in the Western Standard: https://www.westernstandardonline.com/2020/02/bloc-quebecois-to-propose-motion-to-kill-teck/
Don’t think this isn’t orchestrated by Butts. This gives Skippy the cover he needs to kill Teck without actually appearing to oppose it. We’re so totally fucked.
RJ you nailed it dead on Trudeau wants this tech project killed the Kermit’s are more than happy to help him out.
What a dump of a banana republic we’ve become.
We need to get the heck out.
Western Independence is so easy,when the “Brains” of confederated Can Ahh Duh are always promoting that result.
We are not leaving,the Eastern Extortionists left us decades ago.
For the future of our offspring,let us leave already.
Lets give them what they keep demanding.
We don’t care where you get our free money from – not our problem. Albertans must be getting a wee bit tired of working hard and making sacrifices to underwrite Quebec’s lavish socialism. If they could find a way to cut off the cash pipeline it would get the Feds attention real quick.
So why do we still buy Quebec products?
When shopping, start reading labels, don’t buy anything with a Quebec or BC address on the label.
Find out who owns the businesses, then decide if you should support them when products can’t get through.
Small gestures, but small things add up.
Get denied a pipeline by BC, but at the farmer’s markets, Albertans can’t get enough of that BC fruit.
– and Alberta should start producing cheese! Lots and lots of cheese! And dump it into every Province west of Montreal!
Davis, easy answer. Because conservatives are largely unorganized. There is no conservative group, in Canada that I know of, that has the savvy to organize any sort of boycott movement against Quebec or leftist corporations. This is problem with U.S. conservatives as well.
A case in point: AT&T owns the excreble CNN network, and Trump a year ago wondered if Americans could start pulling the plug on AT&T cable vision. But no conservative group yhst Iknow of has ever bothered to undertake a boycott of AT&T. Conservatives just whine and complain, and that’s it.
This comes back to the issue of cities, and how to break their power.
All citizens have a vote.
The largest population center, gets the most representation.
They wanted a “poverty” line? Weaponize it. No income? No vote. Paid no tax? No vote. Own no property? No vote. Accepted foreign money for political purposes? No vote. Government job? No vote. Belong to an organization that buys political ads? No vote (goodbye, Unifor, Ontario Teacher’s, SGEU, …). Gave money to a politician? No vote.
No more collecting homeless drug addicts to pad your riding’s vote count. What, you thought “safe injection” sites had a purpose outside of that?
Vancouver, by itself, has as many seats in Parliament as the rest of the province. So not buying BC apples, really doesn’t do much (if anything) to the people who vote for war with oil. Ditto for Redmonton; there have never been any suicides over an NEP in any government offices. Ditto Regina (king Ralph).
I am beginning to suspect that like BC, there is an enormous, but sparsely populated, economically productive area of Quebec that is simply continuously over ruled by Montreal and Quebec city.
Another thing we got to do, is eliminate defined benefit pension.
Every single private business, worldwide, that tried to keep it, went bankrupt. Trans World Airlines, General Motors, Chrysler, all the bankruptcies I can think of, all the bail outs, boiled down to one common factor; defined benefit pension.
What possible reason could ANY government have, to still offer these?
The “social safety net”, needs to go; it was never anything but a Trojan Horse. If you can’t take care of yourself, if you don’t have family or friends that will help you,
“Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.” ~ James Madison
Have you considered moving to the Texas Hill Country, we will give you a place to land until you can get on your feet. Our part of Texas seems to still be all right for awhile.
I should have considered it when I was younger but I thought Alberta would fight terdo the previous and his national energy program and we would win or I would die. Still waiting for that scrap to start. I’m too old to be much use in a fight now. How many ounces of gold for a tight cabin and a year round well on an acre of land that won’t blow away when the wind blows?
Not sure I believe this.
If true the blow back will finish the libranos. Even Ontario will see through this.
Yeah; not. gonna. happen.
Moronto, Redmenton, Vancouver, … there are certain places where the tick is dug in so deep, it can never be dislodged.
Outside of GTA and Ottawa, Ontario already sees that, unfortunately the electorate replacement process continues and the replacements see less.
Lots of talk.
K-becers love spitting in other peoples faces because nobody ever spits back.
Canaduh is a failed state.
Remember most of the traitorous Boch heads are first time MP’s. None of them have ever made this kind of money or had perks like they enjoy.
They also want to stick around for 6 years so they qualify for the gold plated pension.
They are in no mood to defeat the government.
So true.
That election was sooo rigged!
(Dey got dem Blocs right where dey want dem!)
If Alberta doesn’t respond with concrete action(not just words) then they deserve EVERYTHING they get(or don’t get) and my attitude towards them will change to “who gives a sh*t..
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I don’t believe the BQ can get this passed. Last night on CTV’s W-5, Lloyd Robertson hosted a high quality documentary of the October Crisis of 1970. Interesting to note that when Canadians were faced with anarchy, Pierre Elliot Trudeau had considerably more courage than his son. If he (JT) doesn’t wake up pretty soon, we may have to face the same dilemma
https://youtu.be/bNJkWLTU7ig
We know how Prinz Dummkopf has made kissy-kissy with the Bloc. Between the seats that the BQ hold and the Liberal minority, we can say farewell to the Frontier mine.
Screw ’em! Wexit! Rupertsland now!
(music) “And the flag was still there….”
Mine is still outside…it’s …even more beautiful in the winter…against the blue sky…flying… flying…flipping and clipping…
I’m sure Jason will puff up big like a bullfrog, croak some platitudes about nationalism, then say him and Freebeeland are besties and he can do big big deals with her, but not blackie, cause she’s cool. They are spitting in our faces now Alberta, what else must they do to wake us up?
My guess is the Teck mine gets kicked down the road. Some bullshit excuse or other will be used.
If the libranos think they can win re election by portraying Alberta as the boogeyman and pitting the rest of Canada against us they will.
AB.
I think Trudeau will offer killing the Teck mine as an enticement to the greens to end the rail blockade.
It will just embolden the greens.
There are plenty of ways to screw over Quebec and the West had better start employing them.
Western MPs need to reassure the BQ MPs that they heartily support Quebec separation from Canada as there is no way to reconcile productive western provinces living with an arrogant, parasitic, treacherous, bigoted and constitutionally inflated province that is politically key in the degeneracy of the nation. They should then go on to say that if we can’t convince Quebec to separate with our help, then we will henceforth not cooperate with the ROC and work on Western separation. If they keep the pressure up long enough, the Eastern cabal would cooperate in WEXIT as without Quebec, their control over the ROC would cease.
Vive Le Quebec Libre!
Quebec will never stand for any wexit proposal that includes Alberta. Those mercenary bastards need Alberta to stay in confederation because thats who pays for their $7.00 a day daycare among other social programs. They have zero intention of ever being without those subsidies. As things stand right now Canada is controlled by the unholy trinity of
aboriginals, french speaking Quebec, and foreign interests that want to control western Canadas natural resources and be able to do at fire sale prices.
Not coincidentally the Province of Quebec just announced a $4.7 billion deal with the James Bay Cree to co-develop the North.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/quebec-james-bay-cree-announce-4-7-billion-development-deal
Quebec is acting like a Federal Government – and doing a pretty good job.
In a sane country and society the treasonous blockheads would be arrested and thrown in jail and their supporters treated like the traitors they . If a war is necessary then we must have one, this continuous disruption to Canada as a whole has to cease, on every level in every province.
Putting aside who is being a disengenous sob, it appears the Bloc is leveraging a tense situation to undermine liberal support not just in Quebec, but in the other urban centres where the environmental religion tends to overtly influence the voters. Nothing puts a sense of panic in the laurentien Elite than the thought that they are about to be outbid.
Hate it when I have to add comments to a previous post. Should have it together first.
But I digress.
This is the Bloc leveraging a crisis to test liberal resolve in the cabinet.
About a week ago the media talking point was that “cabinet was divided over the approval of the Teck mine”. Using the media means test of what a division in cabinet can mean this could be all but the PM, or just one disgruntled cabinet minister that got demoted. Now regardless of the issue, because for the Bloc the issue is always secondary to the actual goal of political supremacy in Quebec, they are looking to disrupt the major opposition in Quebec. This is just the opportunity to achieve those ends. The conservatives got an easy path on this by opposing this motion, but it puts the types like a McKenna in a very difficult position when the cabinet will be forced to vote against an anti development motion. There are a good portion of cabinet that love to chant the green mantra, and it’s served them well politically for some time now. But this issue puts the liberals in a difficult position, the right thing, the only thing to do is have the blockades removed and approve Teck. But this deconstructs a Trudeau myth and he has so few left that he can’t legitimately defend his position even inside that cabinet room.
If the blockades persist and the project gets canceled, no amount of spin will be able to obscure how weak Trudeau is.
Once that happens there is a good possibility you will see some liberal MP’s making the “more time with family” ™ resignations from politics on the day that they qualify for their pension.
“project can not be reconciled with the Paris Agreement targets”
The Paris Agreement has very very little effect(*) on the total atmospheric CO2 content, and thus very little effect on temperature assuming sensitivity of 3K/doubling, so trying to meet the targets and making Alberta very very unhappy is bad optics.
*) Alberta’s total effect on temperature assuming IPCC AR5 true can be calculated. The result is such that you can be sure libtards are not so willing to say it aloud. But, they don’t pay for the damages either; libtards are always on your wallet and paying to you with your own money anyways.
Start with ending Equalization now!
Remember when Quebec was running out of propane late last year and Pembina stepped in to help Quebecers avoid a catastrophe? These are the people (who choose our PM more often than not) that “fair deal” Jason believes he can negotiate with and he begins that negotiation by taking separation off the table. I feel we’re about to get crushed by the Canadian consensus.
Is it not great that all Canadians work together in the best interest of their fellow Canadians and for their well being and prosperity.
Half my heritage is from Quebec and goes back a long way. And I say, if this is their attitude, then eff-’em, and their horses. The BQ has been at war with Canada since it was formed, and yet I’m sure they still dance to the tune of the Laurentian elite, possibly without realising it. The LE are apparent masters at playing off all sides against each other. So, eff-’em. All of them. They can’t make it any more obvious that they hate us. Cut off the flow of…everything…bound for Quebec. Move tax collection and other such financial stuff into provincial hands, as others have suggested. If that doesn’t work, then we’ll need to cancel the RCMP contracts, after which, we can get to the serious business of doing the right thing by rational westerners. I would suggest the divorce be so complete that not even a portion of our provincial names be retained. But the wrong people are in charge, if we want to get this done. This isn’t a red Tory operation.
– and to really rub it in, declare an Alberta Constitution and enact a Right to own, use and carry guns into it, and then Notwithstand everything Little Potato has to say about it.
You want to see Ottawa fly up to 80,000 feet and explode? – that should do it!
Heh.
Just adopt the US Constitution. The best document ever written outside of the Bible.
ACM
Alberta has a contract with Ottawa to supply rcmp policing until 2032. Cancelling it without a full infrastructure of policing services available to Albertans would be ludicrous. The logistics of the takeover itself are daunting.
I’m sure the terms of the contract stipulate that suitable notice must be given if either party intends to leave or not renew. Severe penalties would be involved. If Alberta intends to form a provincial police force it hasn’t indicated that intention to this point.
AB,what if the RCMP are in breech of contract?
Why are we paying for no law enforcement and compounding that with open abuse of citizens rights with the breathe testing at whim?
Another “High River” is awaiting us.
When seconds count every kind of cop is only minutes to hours away,complete with associated paperwork.
What if we abandon having the biggest street gang in the country and try out some more local solutions?
I am quite fond of what the Swiss do for government and military,maybe policing needs the same?
That and some of the small counties USA where “Carry” is in their bylaws and investigation is contracted to quite small police service or the State?
Funny how low their rate of violent crime is.
The other “crime” story is how a few idiots make up the bulk of reported crimes..perhaps if these belligerent hotheads wound up dead early in their careers,crime would not be a viable option?
Right now there is every indication the “Force” exists to protect their clients..from us the payers.
I’m not defending the rcmp. I advocated getting rid of them as a provincial police force in Alberta long before the “Firewall” letter was written 20 years ago. All I’m saying is it’s going to be very difficult.
The province should have done this in the 70’s when they had the money. There was some interest in it in the 90’s and they went so far as breaking ground for a new state of the art police college in Ft. MacLeod (?) before the project was suddenly scrapped without notice or logical explanation. They started the AB Sherriffs program but it has gone nowhere.
The breathalyzer laws are under the criminal code – federal law.
Well now…isn’t that part of the Firewall that mouthpiece Kenney should have been implementing 8 months ago…??
Fucking USELES BAG of Federalist WIND that boy
I’m not saying it’ll be easy or quick, but if we keep stalling because it’s neither, it’ll never get done. The key to solving big problems in a project is often starting with the little ones.
As a western, sovereign nation, though, I’m not sure how Ottawa would force us to pay anything to them. Theoretically. 🙂
If you never ask the question and demand a reasonable no B/S response then the answer is always NO!
Alberta already has a provincial police force. I got a, too fast, ticket from them last summer. I asked if they enforced the criminal code as well as traffic act. He said they did. I asked if they had been responding to much rural property crime. He indicated it was becoming more of a problem and that whether they or the RCMP responded to a call was determined only by who was closer. I asked him what he thought about the Gerald Stanley case. He was very careful with the wording of his answers but facial expression and tone of voice made his opinion quite clear. Later that day, on the same subject, I was really surprised by the clarity and vehemence of an RCMP officer in Saskatchewan who said, among other things, that JWRs comments were extremely unhelpful.
Seems to me that Quebec and Ontario get about half of their oil/gasoline/diesel/jet fuel from Alberta via exisiting pipelines and rail.
Turn it all off.
They get most of their natural gas from the west too. There is a giant ng pipeline just north of me as I type.
aha !!! so THAT is what the vive paris accord was for.
“the truth will out” tq Mr Shakespeare. you have a rich environment today for officialdom’s follies.
serious, can *anybody* point to another nation where this fcuking backstabbing continues regularly? hmmmm?
Nigeria?
Post national, post rational, post rule of law, … whatever you want to call it, you already have a new country. Whether you wanted it or not. A lot of people, really did not think it through when they cast their votes. And they won’t the next time either.
A whole lot of people got to be disenfranchised, if there is ever going to be change for the better. The system we got, based on what it has produced so far, guarantees change for the worse. That assertion cannot be argued against, if evidence and empirical data matter.
Too true Kev. All too true.
Those pipelines leaving Alberta going into lawless Can Ahh Duh must be shut down immediately.
Safety first,we must prevent a potential environmental disaster.
It is that precautionary principle again,there is no way that the national forces will prevent sabotage,vandalism and willful destruction of vital infrastructure.
Thus to prevent an un-avoidable future oil and gas leak,we must turn off the taps now and cannot reopen them until law and order is restored to the Eastern Wilderness.
“Think of the children”??
Try to fault that “logic”.
That is what brought us a Federal Carbon Tax,so it must be “smart policy”.
So shut off the lines,let the East Smart.
Hopefully these environmentalist whackos/terrorists dont go around blockading the valve stations and turning off valves for natural gas lines that go into reserves and other eastern cities.
The pity is, there will not be a single MP in the House with the courage to point out even one of Quebec’s many environmental hypocrisies.
Letter to Kenney, my MLA, my MP:
Use the Notwithstanding clause. And oh by the way, I’m done with Canada and AB politicians who pander to federalism. I am an Albertan looking for a way out.
What happens if Alberta starts collecting all taxes, then maybe starts getting a little backlogged in remembering to forward those to Ottawa? Are the feds gonna invade us? Get CBC to call us rednecks? Stop sending us equalization payments? Kick us out of Canada? Stop putting French on our cereal boxes? Maybe we blockade all feds from entering Alberta? Just hypothetical wondering.
The money pipeline would hurt Quebec more than the gas/oil ones. They’s suddenly be faced with a massive shortfall in supporting their social programs.
liberal minister “has hinte approval (for the mine) would be based on how Alberta approaches climate change.”
Isn’t this what they call “quid pro guo” south of the border and they impeach leaders for doing it. Couldn’t we impeach the whole federal liberal government over it? (tongue in cheek)
Quebec is sending the WEST into the line FIRST ( like WWII),,, They want the French separation in the background……Watch the CBC cover the Western (BAD GUYS) separation while Quebec sneaks out un-noticed… Poke the bear and watch him jump….
“The 1982 amendments of the Constitution Act , 1867 explicitly recognized provinces’ and territories’ constitutional rights to manage their own non-renewable natural resources, forestry’ and electrical energy———“!
Francois Blanchet has opened up a provincial domain——A suggestion to Moe and Kenny they should open up Quebec’s free ride with with Hydro electrical production!!!!! If opening up the Tech mine happens in the House of Commons it is done so illegally—-then equalization must be paid by Quebec on their Hydro!!!! Quebec would become a have province ——in the first time in history they would pay equalization!!!