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  3. I had always suspected the Harry Potter series was mostly enjoyed by awkward social outcast Queers. Huh!? Imagine that? I was right. And now Rowling’s Queer fans are turning on her. Yeah … I couldn’t care less. Nor is there any validity whatsoever for “trans” anything. Shove off with that nonsense.

    1. “I had always suspected the Harry Potter series was mostly enjoyed by awkward social outcast Queers. ”

      Those are best selling books for children in decades. They are enjoyed by a lot more… unless enjoying reading books qualifies one as a social outcast in today’s publik skulling…

      2. Those are best selling books for children in decades.

        The problem is that these aren’t children sharpening the pitchforks and lighting the torches.

        Rowling is a lot like Joss Whedon: a terribly overrated writer whose popularity is almost entirely due to pandering to an entire generation of insecure children raised in broken homes and desperate for some kind of model family to escape into.

        The books are very successful, yes. So was The Sorrows of Young Werther.

          2. Say what? When I learn about Marti Noxon I will stop liking Firefly, Serenity, Buffy, Angel? What did she do to make me dislike them?

      3. Books for children?
        These are great books for children, in no particular order: The Chronicles of Narnia, Watership Down, Charlotte’s Web. I can attest to them because I have enjoyed all of them, more than once. First, they must be able to delight a child. Second, they all have a certain degree of whimsy, paramount for children’s books. Third, they all contain a certain amount of morality, without being preachy about it. (The last book of Narnia, “the Last Battle”, is an exception, and I like it the least of the books.) Fourth, in the end, good triumphs, even though in Charlotte’s Web “good” is only saving a pig’s life. Speaking of which, there is a movie where a pig won the contest for being the best shepherd dog. It is called “Babe”, and it definitely fits the bill.
        While I enjoyed Alice in Wonderland et seq. as an adult, I think they are too phantasmagoric, rather than just whimsical, for children. And I don’t get a sense of underlying morality. MY criticism of the Henry Potter series appears elsewhere in this thread, but they follow the same lines.
        Don’t give me that stuff about “enjoying reading books qualifies one as a social outcast.” I enjoy immensely reading books. But from what I know of that series, I know I would not enjoy reading them. Does that qualify me as your social outcast for “not enjoying books”?

        1. “Don’t give me that stuff about “enjoying reading books qualifies one as a social outcast.””
          Don’t get your panties in a bunch. It was a sarcastic remark about the state of public schools today.

        2. “Books for children?”

          Yes, like, you know, books that average children actually want to read without being dragged kicking and screaming from the screens. As much as I think Rowling’s books are overrated crap they actually work because kids want to read them. That alone, in the age of Fortnite zombies is a huge success. They’ll get to more ambitious and worthy reads eventually. First get them hooked on reading. My twelve year old reads every day, for fun, and his first thick books without pictures were Hairy Pothead series.

          1. Sorry, but I’ve seen this “Potter as gateway drug to reading” argument before, and it’s a total crock. These kids are not more literate as a result of reading that trash, they haven’t gone on to better books (there are studies that show literacy levels actually declined post-Potter) and as for zombies, that is what the Potter books turned them into. You’ve read their posts on Twitter, screaming that “so-and-so is a total Snape” or a “Muggle” or whatever. Their brains work in simplistic categories as a result of reading Rowling, and they can’t think outside those categories to save their lives. To quote the most common Twitter reply to Potterheads: Read another book!

            As for Rowling herself, she fed this beast, so she deserves to be eaten by it.

          2. None in recent decades has hooked more kids on reading than JKR. The rest remains your opinion and off topic regurgitated claptrap. Start them with something they enjoy and feed them better things over time. A kid can start by reading seven crappy books first before he starts on a list approved by Bored of the Rings fans.

          3. When I was in 4th grade my friends and I began reading The Hobbit. Yes, 4th grade. We were already reading at a 9th Grade level, because we weren’t raised in an urban school district run by the teachers UNION. Our school district was run by parents … who valued educational excellence.

            My friends and I actually ran thru the oak covered hills, acting out scenes from The Hobbit, like kids used to do in the land before video games. But The Hobbit had a message of Good and Evil which was clearly defined and delineated. And messages of bravery in the face of daunting odds. It seems WWII informed British literature in a way that JK Rowling never knew. No, She was informed by geeks being “bullied” for their differences. Gays being mocked for their carefully cultivated affectations. She literally attacks Christian morality by replacing it with a certain moral relativity that makes all things permissible… except traditional culture.

            Yep. It’s good when kids read. But even more important is WHAT they read. Harry Potter is like Rowling’s Mein Kampf outlining her disdain for traditional culture, Christianity, and morality. I consider her books to be a subversive abrasive for the souls of children. Exposing them to a fantasy world of leftist thought and behavior. Yeah, yeah, I’m a “book burner”. Hardly. But I carefully curated my own children’s literature. My daughter read Laura Engels Wilder and my boys read Treasure Island, and then Moby Dick.

          4. Ok, let’s put it this way. When a kid reads only seven books in their life then it does not matter much what they read. When they read a lot more there is no damage if they also read HP or if HP started them on their journey.

            Moby Dick, Treasure Island? Oh yeah, mandatory.

    2. I am an avid fan of fantasy novels. When I was younger, I haunted bookstores to find anything worthy as follow on to the Lord of the Rings. Of course there were none, but I did read a lot of reasonably good novels, most of which are now out of print.
      But based on what I know about the Harry Porter series, I have never read one word of it, nor watched any of the movies, except once on an airplane with nothing else to choose from. That more or less confirmed my suspicions.
      There are two major faults with the series. First, it is very derivative. I once read an analysis of just how derivative it is, even the name of the major character. The second fault is while it is completely elitist, (they even have a derogatory name for non wizards) as befitting something penned by a progressive elitist herself, you do not get a sense of right and wrong in the battle between the protagonists and their adversaries. It just seems like the Bloods vs. the Crips, or whatever.
      There are several reasons I prefer fantasy to science fiction. I can easier suspend disbelief, and accept that reality is different in this other world (as long as everything is consistent and deus ex machina don’t pop up all the time). But I won’t accept pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo that supposedly is part of my reality. Secondly, most science fiction seem to point to a bleak future, as contrasted to most fantasy where at the end right does prevail. And that brings up the third point, in most fantasies there is a definite right and wrong. If you will, they are the continuations of national epics from the middle ages, such as Morte d’Arthur, Chancon de Roland, and Der Niebelungenlied, (all of which I have read) only in a fantasy time and place. Again, the Henry Potter series seems to deviate completely from all of that.
      So the progressives are conducting an internecine warfare. Fine. I don’t care one way or another. Rowling is a plagiarizing imposter anyway.

      1. I tried watching the first of the HP movies when it was shown on TV. I had to switch it off after half an hour as I found the plot irritatingly boring and stupid. I guess it was one of those flicks which were made for the fans only and only the fans would like it.

        1. I agree with that. I sat through them because my kid was allowed to watch them only after he read the relevant book. The first one was borderline watchable and it went downhill from there. Kid still liked them. And then he read another book and another.

        2. The intended audience was ten year old kids, not adults. Like Star Wars, kids of ten like it, most adults think its kinda silly.

      2. “I haunted bookstores to find anything worthy as follow on to the Lord of the Rings. ”

        Oh please. Bored of the rings. IMHO probably the most overrated book out there (ducks for cover). It does not hold the candle to Sapkowski’s Witcher series.

        “There are several reasons I prefer fantasy to science fiction. ”

        Urban fantasy? Sure. Bored of the Rigns type of fantasy. i.e. my wizard has a bigger staff than your wizard so we win. Because magic? “Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.”

        1. Obviously you are speaking out of total ignorance of the book. You have no idea of the actual plot line.
          It seems to me your criticism of “Bored of the Rings type of fantasy. i.e. my wizard has a bigger staff than your wizard so we win. Because magic?” is much more apropos for the Henry Potter series. That is what it is all about, a battle between wizards. That is actually NOT what LOTR is about. Its greatest hero, it turns out, is the least of the least. He is a gardener who serves his master as a valet, both being of the least significant species, and has no more magic than you or I.
          “As much as I think Rowling’s books are overrated crap …” You can give classics to them instead, which children also want to read. You get the best of both worlds. Books children love to read, which also introduce them to great literature, rather than “overrated crap”, your words. Watership Down, for instance, works for children a whole lot better.
          FWIW, LOTR was voted the greatest English language novel, of any genre, of the 20th century by British readers. As contrasted to HP series being “overrated crap”, rated by you.

          1. OldBruin mentions a great book I enjoyed as a child and parts of it I still read occasionally:
            “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrariwise, what it is, it wouldn’t be, and what it wouldn’t be, it would. You see?” Alice

          2. Yes I I’ve read them many decades ago so I don’t remember the details about which wizard called eagles to help in the final fight. Or whether this happened in Hobbit or LOTR. They were boring. These were probably the last books I have ever forced myself to read that I did not enjoy reading. I read them because everyone else said they’re great. They weren’t, they were boring. Proust boring.

            “It seems to me your criticism of “Bored of the Rings type of fantasy. … is much more apropos for the Henry Potter series”
            Equally, more, less, who cares? The value of Hairy Pothead lies in making reading cool. The value of LOTR is that they work well as paperweight and you can use pages to start a fire or level your table. :p

            “You can give classics to them instead,”
            Instead? Why instead? Let them taste both and then gently steer them towards more valuable works. HP are mere seven books, not seven years of back breaking labour in the gulag. Get hooked on reading and move on. He finished Tom Sawyer few weeks ago, and just started on Count of Monte Christo.

          3. To Colonista:
            You threw out a line as to why you dislike “Bored of the Rings kind of fantasy”, viz:
            Urban fantasy? Sure. Bored of the Rigns type of fantasy. i.e. my wizard has a bigger staff than your wizard so we win. Because magic? “Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.”
            Then when you are completely shot down, you claim:
            “It seems to me your criticism of “Bored of the Rings type of fantasy. … is much more apropos for the Henry Potter series”
            Equally, more, less, who cares?
            Who cares? Well, apparently you did, to bring it up as THE point of why you are bored of the Rings to begin with. But since your “point” has been shown by more than one person to be totally fallacious, you now claim “who cares?”
            BTW, your 12 year old kid who has gone from Harry Potter to hopefully better reading is a sample size of one. I bet if he had been introduced to reading via say The Hobbit and Watership Down, his appetite for reading would now not be any less. It seems he just likes to read, not even deterred by the horrible first exposure.
            As to the Lord of the Rings, yes we know you were bored to tears. It still does not explain the intense hatred you seem to harbor. Not that popularity is necessarily a gauge, JRRT himself never thought it was going to be popular at all, but it seems you are missing what most people find enjoyable, the book, or rather series, having been voted by the British readers as book of the century. Think about this, JRRT wrote the book for himself, never expecting it to be even published. It is as ars artis gratia as you can get. That he struck a resonant chord with so many people must have been really rewarding. In contrast, obviously, Rowling wrote for the lowest common denominator. That is why what she wrote is trash, as so much “modern art” and “modern music” are trash. They both got what they want. JRRT wrote the book of the century, not having meant to, and Rowling got filthy rich, proving Barnum’s dictum.

          4. Did anyone ever told you that you’re a tedious twat and a bore? They should have.
            HP works because kids want to read it more than they want to read other books. That is a fact. My kid is not a sample of one. He is a part of a sample of entire generation of kids who grew up on HP. That too is a fact.
            I don’t like HP, he does. I am an adult. He is a kid. He can like different things. Those are subjective preferences. So yes, I don’t care if my criticism of fantasy in general is more aporpos HP than Bored of the Rings. I don’t enjoy either. HP is for kids and it works. BOTR is painfully boring pompous and annoying (and so are a lot of BOTR fans as evident here).

          5. Okay, Colonista, you cannot face a logical discussion and resort to personal insults instead of reasoned replies. That is a trait usually found in progressives. Are you sure you didn’t make a right turn on the net by mistake, when you should have made a left turn?
            Why do you insist the HP series is crap but it’s good to fit it to children? Cat poo in a sandbox looks almost exactly like Maryland crabcake. It isn’t of course. But if it looks like it, maybe you should feed it to your kid and see if he will progress to crabcake. That is no different from what you did to him, feeding him crap and hope he’ll progress to better reading. There are plenty of great children’s books available. I read Watership Down to my children when they were very young, and they always insisted on more. Anyway, your contention that the HP series leads to better readers has been retorted elsewhere in this thread, to which you, typically, did not respond.
            So you don’t like fantasy as a genre. Fine. That is your prerogative. I love fantasy. That is my prerogative. Is that your general rule to heap insults on strangers whose tastes disagree with you, even something as benign as reading material? Do you prefer the color, say, green, and can’t stand people who prefer yellow? Do you prefer beer over wine, or vice versa, and can’t stand people with the other preference? Ad infinitum. Your friends must be few and far in between. I pity you.
            P.S. It is a truism that whoever resorts to name calling first has lost the argument. Thank you for your concession.

          6. The reason I insulted you, is bullshit like that above.
            You haven’t won any arguments, you bore. I did not dignify your bullshit with an argument. I don’t care about your preaching. As far as I am concerned BOTR still sucks donkey balls, and swallows, and gargles. It does not matter how much you love it. Same goes for sci fi vs fantasy. It is ok for someone to make fun of your preferences.

            You’re not an authority.

            Get over yourself hobbit fanboy.

            I made one serious point: HP works. Kids like it, read it and then are more likely to read other books. That is a fact. I don’t care if you have a whole list of books that you perceive as better in your mind. I have read enough books in my life to have the list that works for me. And if my list isn’t ideologically pure enough for you, then I am certain I will find a way to cope with it.

            I will still make fun of BOTR. I will still point out that HP works. And if you don’t like it, feel free to hug your walking tree action figure.

            “So you don’t like …/blah blah blah/ … I pity you.”
            Look up “projection” in the dictionary.

        2. Anyone who actually thinks the war in LOTR was “won by magic” is proving that he never bothered to read it. It’s the exact opposite of what happens in the book. Gandalf and the other wizards were forbidden to use their full powers in Middle Earth and the war is won by tiny hobbits who have no magic at all.

          1. Anyone who actually sees a quote from Han freaking Solo used as an argument and is unable to recognize a light hatred nature of said argument must by a Bored of the Rigns fan.

          2. To Colonista::
            Next time you claim irony, please so denote, before your argument gets shot down.
            You think your quote is so iconic that anyone at all must immediately realize where it came from, regardless of the fact that the quote has zero bearing on the subject being discussed.
            As to your iconic quote, it is rather ironic in its own way. You do realize that the light sabre is the essence of “Hokey religions and ancient weapons”, don’t you? And the light sabre, being the preferred weapon of the “ancient” order of Jedi knights, is symbolic of everything that is good and proper in the Star Wars universe.

        3. It does not hold the candle to Sapkowski’s Witcher series.

          That’s a funny way to spell Moorcock’s Elric of Melniboné.

          To quote you, “read another book”.

          1. It isn’t my quote. In any case, it is a valid advice. What is the point that you’re making? That Sapkowski isn’t 100% original? Is that it? Ok. So? Son of the Black Sword saga, unfinished as of yet, by Larry Correia isn’t 100% original either, and it is influenced by other works. Still it is freaking epic cool. One writer’s universe is influenced by another writer’s universe. I like Sapokowski’s style and flavor, the darkness, the sarcasm, the mistrust, the conflicting emotions, the imperfection of characters all set against a cruel world and sinister forces manipulating it, etc. You like something else. Books are fun. Enjoy what you like.

      3. “I haunted bookstores to find anything worthy as follow on to the Lord of the Rings”
        Did you ever read Christopher James Paolini, the author of The Inheritance Cycle, which consists of the books Eragon, Eldest, Brisingr, and Inheritance? A few too many battles but I did come across this line in one of the books that is not too bad:
        “If you have to chose between giving a man a noble disposition or teaching him to think clearly, you would do better to teach him to think clearly; too many problems in this world are caused by men with noble dispositions and clouded minds”

      4. I was a voracious reader in Jr. High, and in browsing thru our local library shelves under ‘science fiction and fantasy’ … I discovered Ray Bradbury. I developed a love for his work. He wrote about evil … in a way that didn’t sugar coat it. Evil that will completely consume you if you don’t recognize it and fight it. Ray Bradbury is a legitimate author of GREAT books, with IMPORTANT themes. JK Rowling is a crap writer about nonsensical make-believe crap with subversive messages poisoning children’s minds. IMHO.

  4. So she’s been blacklisted. Meanwhile, she cries all the way to the bank with all the royalties from her books.

    1. She’s been blacklisted by people who aren’t going to read her books anyway. Big deal.

      And I agree, she’s crying all the way to the bank.

  6. My favourite series growing up was Tarzan, now of course racist. I loved LOTR and enjoyed HP. Not too keen on Sci Fi but read lots of it. Anything to get the kids reading is worth it.

    1. One of the fondest memories I have of my kindergarten year in Sacramento CA … where our brand new suburb was surrounded by rolling plains covered in native poppies and lupine … was watching Tarzan movies on TV with Johnny Weissmuller every Saturday afternoon at my best friends house. We would run through those fields and creeks … grabbing branches, swinging (attempting to) and giving our Tarzan yells. Funny thing … we never ever thought for ONE SECOND about “racial” themes. All we resonated with, was a man … surviving in a very dangerous jungle wilderness by way of his; knowledge of nature, befriending of wild animals, raising a family (Jane was HOT! Even in kindergarten we could figure that out) … and doing GOOD.

      In the years since, our culture has become dark and cynical. Everything and everyone is baaaaad mmmmm Kay!? Our heroes have been replaced by anti-heroes. The good, and noble Western man as portrayed in shows like Bonanza, and Gunsmoke were replaced by spaghetti westerns where good and evil were blurred into a morass of universal depravity.

      Looking back, I must give thanks to those “awful” white people of the 1950’s who cared enough about their children to fill our heads full of clear and sharp delineations between good and evil, right and wrong. To teach morality as they entertained their children. There were NO school shootings … NONE. There was no rampant preteen pregnancy problem (despite me wanting to do ‘Jane’ in the jungle). Stoners were mocked in cringeworthy public service advertisements. Anyone who believes the culture of America TODAY … is better than those awful 1950’s … obviously didn’t grow up in the 50’s-60’s. They have NO IDEA what they’re talking about … because they’ve been force-fed a cynical, twisted, view of America.

      1. I came to the U.S. as a thirteen year old immigrant in 1956. (Full disclosure, I had attended an English speaking school for almost three full years before my immigration.) I went to a parochial school with mostly white, some Latinos, one black that I knew of in the class ahead of mine, and we elected him student body president. I gravitated to the best students in the school, who happened to have been white. The only overt racist remarks made towards me were by some of the Latinos.
        This was probably in a mostly blue collar workers neighborhood, though some kids were known to be richer. But what impressed me was that almost all the boys owned a run down jalopy, which they bought with their summer earnings, and they spent every weekend working on the thing. I asked one of the rich kids why he did that, instead of just having his father buy him a better car, and he looked at me like I asked him why he didn’t fly to the moon. Such a notion was just inconceivable to him. This showed me how little class difference meant in the U.S. (THEN!) Any kid going through that experience in high school would not look down on hard work or getting his hands dirty, or those who had to do that to make a living.
        Yes, it was in California, and maybe things were different in the Deep South. What did I know? But to me, America really exemplified the Jeffersonian ideal. Then came 1960, when the Kennedy/Johnson ticket won, and 1963, when LBJ became president, and pushed through his “Great Society” which took single mothers out of their parents’ house and put them in their own apartments. And that was the beginning of the downward slope we had been on since, only with a pause during the Reagan years.

        1. OB … every time you write about your US immigration story, and your melting into the American culture pot, I feel a certain pride in our nation and our people. When growing up, I was as “class-blind”, and “race-blind” as anyone can be. But now that means NOTHING because … white privilege. What utter stupidity. Fanning the flames of racism, by constantly harping on it as endemic in our society is just so much rubbish.

          When growing up with my fairly well-to-do grandparents, they had a Maid – Bea. My grandmother’s attitude toward Bea was loving, generous, and supportive … yet she put Bea in her place. Bea was nothing but sweet and kind and supportive to my brother and I. In some ways, I viewed her as a second mother (nanny at least). Bea’s own children excelled in the Oakland schools where she lived and went on to earn college degrees. Years later, I invited Bea to my (starter wife) wedding. My grandmother said “oh that’s wonderful Kenji, Bea will serve your guests”. I was stunned at her assumption. Absolutely NOT! Bea is invited as a guest, who holds a special place in my heart growing up. I had quite a struggle convincing my ‘bygone era of racial and class distinction’ Grandmother that Bea was to be an honored guest and nothing else.

          I put that down to generational differences. Growing up, a conservative, in the 60’s didn’t cause me to reject every part of my generations CHANGES. Nope. You can absolutely BE conservative (because it’s logical) and be socially ‘progressive’ (yecch, another mangled term). I just shake my head when leftists describe conservatives as racist. Like Obama, they’re clinging to outmoded, historic, social norms that haven’t existed since the 1960’s … IMHO since the 1950’s.

          I am beyond proud to call you a fellow American. And one who respects and reveres (the good parts) of his own culture and history.

          Oh … and congrats on being WORLD CHAMPIONS!!! Unstoppable Liverpool!

  7. 2nd the comment on having kids read. The family read LOTR, HP, Dragon Tattoo and then enjoyed the movies.

  8. I think this is fabulous. This is Peak Tranny, my friends.

    Think about it. The tranny movement was 100% back-burner before 2016, this weird thing that only Hollywood pervs knew anything about. Since then the thing exploded, and now we have genuine man-hating lesbian feminazis, the farthest Left freakoids out there…

    …begging Conservative white men for a safe venue to talk.

    https://phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2019/01/punch-terf-made-lesbians-angry.html

    “WASHINGTON, D.C. — Kara Dansky, a feminist lawyer and spokeswoman for Women’s Liberation Front (WoLF), spoke against the so-called “Equality Act” at the Heritage Foundation on Monday, denouncing the transgender and gender identity movement as anti-women and anti-lesbian in particular. Her remarks echoed the London Pride March sign declaring that “Transactivism Erases Lesbians.”

    The name you see there is “The Heritage Foundation.” They needed to speak at the Heritage Foundation because they were going to get physically beat up anywhere else by Antifa goons. Bunch of chunky middle aged women with short haircuts are afraid of getting punched out.

    Today, mega-billionaire author JK Rowling is afraid of getting punched out. For stating the obvious, no less.

    How long is that going to last? Not very.

    So IMHO the tranny-train is right at the tippy top of the biiiiig hill, the chug-chug-chug of gaining ground got them all the way up there, and they’re about to go rushing down the other side back to nowhere. 2020 will be the last year you hear about trans-rights.

    It may also be the last year you hear about glowball warming as a political platform, but that’s another issue.

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