Coulda Had Max

2019 Federal Election 120 Comments

And now they do;

After not initially meeting all necessary criteria, the Commission has decided to include Bernier, who formed the still fledgling federal political party in 2018 with a vow to run a candidate in all 338 ridings.
 
“Based on our further evaluation, I’m satisfied that more than one candidate endorsed by the party has a reasonable chance to be elected,” said Commissioner David Johnston in a statement.

I have my own suspicions about why the change of heart, and it isn’t for the reasons stated.

120 Replies to “Coulda Had Max”

  1. Just terrific news. It is called democracy. Glad the Commission has had a change of heart. I believe Bernier will impress a lot of people. Best of all, he will make Trudeau look like a silly lightweight. I will now watch. Without Bernier I was not planning to do so.

    1. “It is called democracy. ”

      Where majority of voters are below average IQ. And it shows especially among the cheerleaders of the Grand Maxipad.

    2. I suspect that Gerry Butts made a call to the “liberals” on the commission who decide who gets on the stage and told them to allow Max. They are looking for a few more Scheer supporters to switch to Max and divide the vote.

      That being said,I hope MAX focuses on Climate Emergency and points out what a load of bullshitz it is.

  2. All they need is Bernier to siphon off a few points from Scheer and they will have their beloved Trudeau back.

    1. “All they need is Bernier to siphon off a few points from Scheer”

      Exactly.
      from article: -Here is the money quote-
      “First, the Liberals hold a 15-point lead in Quebec and a four-point lead in Ontario, where dozens of seat results will mostly decide the election.(emphasis mine)

      This is why Trudeau has hired his fellow Quebecer, Bernier. To split the vote in dozens of seats such that the LPC wins those seats
      and the Election.

      1. I don’t believe it. Bernier is his own man, unlike Trudeau and Scheer.
        Scheer kicked Rebel Media out of the Conservative convention. That’s the guy you want as Prime Minister?

        1. ” Bernier is his own man”

          He sure is, and he’s trying to split the vote and return Trudeau to a second term.
          I want Trudeau turfed out. The CPC is the party that can beat the LPC. You don’t get it. It’s about beating Trudeau.

          1. Bernier is a far better candidate than Scheer. Trudeau didn’t even show up for the last debate. We were on the ferry, coming back from one of the Gulf Islands, a few weeks ago, and the black pickup ahead of us had a bumper sticker – “F** Trudeau.” Working guy. Don’t believe the polls. (Trump won. 🙂

          3. So what if Bernier is a better candidate than Scheer. Bernier’s “party of one” is not going to beat Trudeau’s presently governing Liberal Party of Canada. Do you want the Liberal Party of Canada to have another 4 years to wreak havoc?

          4. If the CPC wanted to run the country…they shouldn’t have picked a do-nothing tool like Scheer to run the party.

          5. Nah bro, you don’t get it. Scheer and Trudy are two sides of the same coin. Both want unlimited immigration, both want to subsidize their corporate buddies, both want their sweet government pensions. It’s raging paranoia to say your buddy Trudeau hired Max, you think he’s got a time machine, he went back and got Max to have a consistent positions for the past 10 years? The vote splitters are the people voting for a Progressive party that stopped being conservative years ago. The CPC is 90% of Trudeau and just a drop of Scheer, that’s not good enough.

          6. “Trudeau hired Max, you think he’s got a time machine, he went back and got Max to have a consistent positions for the past 10 years?”

            Consistent? So Bernier having to resign his position as Foreign Minister is your idea of consistency is it?
            My view is that Bernier is unserious, incompetent. Why have no other CPC MPs crossed the floor and joined Bernier?
            Don’t they want to be winners? Don’t they want power, prestige, and influence?

          7. Aren’t you tired of voting against someone. How about voting FOR something.

            It’s either Scheer or Trudeau is not a choice, they both have the same masters and are after the same small, CBC-watching public. Haarlem Globetrotters or Washington Generals. We’ll get the same for the next four years with either.

        3. Yes, Bernier is his own man. And the Liberals will try to use him. It might not work for them, but unless he stays out of it, it might.

          I expect he won’t quit, and the PPC won’t form the government. So whether you vote PPC or not, we are going to get either a majority government led by the LPC or by the CPC, or a minority government led by the LPC or by the CPC.

      2. And all the libcons need to do to make Bernier irrelevant is to abandon Scheerism.

        They deserve the beating the voters will give them. Maybe then they will try to bring in disaffected conservatives.

      4. “This is why Trudeau has hired his fellow Quebecer, Bernier. To split the vote in dozens of seats such that the LPC wins those seats and the Election.”

        Exactly.

        But I think we all are not asking the more important question: why the sudden change of hart? Libranos don’t do things like that by accident. So why did they change their strategy? Why not allow the Grand Maxipad to participate in the debates from day one? Allowing Maxipad into the debates NOW* (not from the start), must happen for a reason.

        I can only speculate, but one does not change a winning strategy… Looks to me like Libranos simply failed to paint Dairy Queen as the right wing extremist and upon realizing their failure are hoping that Maxipad will now drain votes from the Dairy Queen. But at the same time they are running the risk that the no longer extremist Dairy Queen will drain more votes from the wimpy center-slightly-nominally-right lobotomized voters. That may be a surprisingly good outcome for Conservatives in the end.

        *Note that they have changed their strategy after the empty chair debate. I’d love to see their internal polling before and after that debate. They may be doing worse than we think they are doing. You heard it here first folks.

        1. > But I think we all are not asking the more important question: why the sudden change of heart?

          Because Bernier’s team sent a compelling letter that addressed the commission’s interpretation point by point, including names of five higher profile candidates they believe have a head start on name recognition, and the commission’s polling confirmed that one or more of those do indeed have more than 25% support, and thus a chance of winning. I’m not a fan of how the Liberals unilaterally put these commissions together either, but there’s no conspiracy here, just following the rules as they said a month ago they were going to interpret them.

          1. Sure. The politbiuro got compelled by a letter and thus the appointed by Libranos gatekeepers decided to the right thing. And prior to that, the very same appointed apparatchiks objectively felt that not letting The Grand Maxipad to participate in the debates was the right thing to do. You’re beyond naive. You’re forgetting we’re a banana republic.

    2. Similarly, the Greens/NDP could siphon off votes from Liberals. That helps Scheer. A lot of people are put off by Liberals this time, and looking for alternatives. The hope (for them) would be that the Greens or NDP would hold balance of power and push something like proportional representation. Similarly, PPC could prop up a minority Conservative government. I think we are in minority territory. Because the PPC was not included in the formal debates, local groups seem to think it was ok to shut them out locally. They have some good candidates, so it is only fair to include them.

      2. Not sure who or what Kate is “dinging” about. The format is severely lacking. Following progressions of discussion is difficult.
        Even numbering comments would make reference easier.
        Comment chains do not have as definite a beginning and follow on as they could have.

        1. Expand your window wider and you can see how the comments line up underneath each other better. Kate is dinging to riffer73’s comment “all they need is Bernier to siphon off a few votes” which is what I’ve been saying every time the subject of Bernier comes up. Right wing minded voters in Canada are stupid. They’ll back a candidate that has zero chance of winning just because they think he’s ideologically better than the guy who has a chance of winning. Then they’ll spend the next 5 years complaining about the Liberal party that managed to win, yet again. Left wing voters, however, will abandon the NDP if it looks like a right wing party has a chance. Bernier LOST THE LEADERSHIP VOTE. He should NOT be earning ANY votes in this election. He should have sat down and shut up, and waited for the next leadership convention.

          2. You assume I would vote for Scheer. No, without Bernier, I wouldn’t be voting; there’s no point as the same will continue to happen as has been happening for some time, there is no difference between the two “leaders”

      1. Who cares about their platform? The PPC has 0.0000% chance of winning the election. The ONLY thing they can accomplish is to steal enough votes from the CPC to allow the Liberals another victory. Sorry to break the news to you, but a vote for Bernier is a vote for Trudeau.

        2. I agree with you pete. And I suspect the only reason that Bernie will be in the debate is that the commission who set it up with the hope that Bernie will look better then Sheer, siphon off a bunch of Conservative voters to the PPC thus helping the UN Puppet to get another 4 years.
          While I want trudeau out as much as anyone the only way that will happen is through the Conservatives. I agree with many of the points that the PPC claim to stand for but I realize that they have no chance this election cycle and if Sheer moves the party too far to the left I’ll vote Bernie next time around but this time, for the sake of Canada we’ve got to get rid of the liberals and only the Conservatives offer that as a possible outcome next month.

          1. Rob: EXACTLY!! Bernier should have waited until the next election…now we just hope and prayer that the Cons that want to vote for Bernier hear ALL CONS. CANADIANS yelling VOTE SCHEER or we get 4 more of Tru-Groper.

      2. “…here’s the PPC Platforms”

        How about instead of spamming the same retarded comment again, you actually try reading the response you always get? People don’t care what The Grand Maxipad promises because he will never be forced to deliver any of it. How hard is it for you understand that? I don’t care if he promises me sandwich sex with Charisma Carpenter and Christina Hendrix if he wins. Not even if they were to arrive in a Ferrari F40 and Porsche 959 and leave the keys with me when we’re done. No, not even if my wife does not object. He is not going to win. Period, end of story, how hard is it to understand that? Grow the f*** up and try making an own point instead of repeating the same drivel ad nauseum ad infinitum.

        P.S. Do they pay you per comment of per letter? Try getting a deal when they pay per comment as multi syllable words must be too challenging for you.

        1. How about instead of spamming the same retarded comment again, you actually try reading the response you always get? People don’t care what The Grand Maxipad promises because he will never be forced to deliver any of it. How hard is it for you understand that? I don’t care if he

          Why do you not feel the need to inform yourself. I did, I went and met the man. He has been saying the same thing for 12 yrs. Every question I asked, he looked me right in the eye and answered them. He is one very square shooter, a man as they used to say you could ride the river with.

          I know quite a few of the candidates and they like him are committed to the platform and
          Canada. The cons and every other party have to earn votes not expect them. It is not our fault if milkboy is incapable to deliver them. I will never vote for a globalist party.

          This election is our last chance to get it right. This election is all about globalism or a free Canada. We do not have four years to waste. If milkboy were to get in, in 4 years the UN will be in control of Canada. This is not fiction but fact. Do some reading and inform yourself. Read up on the UN 2030 mandate. It is all about the new world order. The PPC are the only non globalist party running.

          Why is it that when you do not agree with someone else’s train of thought you start calling them down, that is not how to have a discussion. In fact it just gets everyones back up. Please read all the platforms and compare them then vote according to your belief. Do not vote out of fear as that never works. And respect everyone else’s opinion. You right now are not what I would call an informed voter.

          1. “This election is our last chance to get it right. ”

            You do not stand a slightest chance of winning this election. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zero. It does not matter how right you are or how good your party platform is.

            You think I don’t know the PPC platform? You think I don’t know what his empty promises are?

            Bitch please.

            I liked Max when he run for the conservative leadership. I liked everything he said. I bought party membership to vote for him. I donated to him.

            He lost. Fair and square.* And so your straight shooter decided to betray all of us who voted for him and form another party, one designed to punish us for not electing him. He is a traitor and a Librano useful idiot.

            “Why is it that when you do not agree with someone else’s train of thought you start calling them down, that is not how to have a discussion.”

            Angel is not someone. Angel is something. A brain dead bot NPC incapable of responding to someone’s argument. He is not different from the “Orange man bad” crowd. He only is programmed by a different (not so different in effect) crowd. Of course the rest of Maxipads will circle their wagons around him no matter what a pathetic bot he is. This hive mentality is common among Maxipads.

            “vote according to your belief.”

            Nope, that is for Kamikadze losers. I play to win and when I cannot win I play to deny the enemy their win.

            “And respect everyone else’s opinion. ”

            Will in my oppinion you’re an idiot. You now are required to respect my opinion.

            *And no, it does not matter how much his fans will bitch about the mechanism of the leadership election process rules that he agreed to before running.

  3. “Still fledgling party” seems an awkward turn of phrase. Isn’t that for the voters to decide?

    These are the points I would hope Max might hammer home —

    (a) not an extremist option, just common sense policies.

    (b) it is not only okay for the people to decide the future of the country (and not elites) but necessary for freedom to survive.

    (c) we are not splitting the vote, that happened when the CPC decided to go with Scheer and quite possibly after a tampered process to get him elected. Don’t blame us for jumping that ship, it is going down anyway.

    (d) carbon taxes won’t work as advertised, and there is insufficient proof that human activity has created all alleged forms of climate change, also there is insufficient evidence that said changes have taken place (some claims are flagrantly biased, such as using one-off events to promote the fear of catastrophic change). Also large players in the emissions such as China are not forced to play on a level playing field, making our own participation ineffectual and counter-productive economically. We should just say no to carbon taxes and plan mitigation strategies instead, spending only when necessary, not in a speculative fashion to achieve tenuous non-results.

    (e) immigration needs to be reformed substantially. That does not make supporters of this party “racist” or anti-immigrant. In fact, some immigrants probably agree and will vote in favour.

    (f) the various left-wing options are all basically economic suicide on different time scales, some faster and more complete than others. If younger Canadians think communism or radical socialism are “cool” options, they should check with a generation of people from Eastern Europe who were their age under systems like that, and couldn’t wait to escape. The CPC options are just Liberal lite, if you want Liberal government, you should vote Liberal not CPC, the Liberals are the experts in delivering patronage I mean Liberal government. Scheer is an amateur and will mess it up. I mean, what use is half a globalist to anyone?

  4. When one is going to win an election by stealing it, who cares who’s in the debate? The outcome is already fixed.

    1. So you’re the kind of person that only has a Plan A. No Plan B or Plan C, eh? More poor you.
      By the way, Bernier is the ginned up explanation for why a riding that should have gone CPC has the vote split and instead goes LPC.
      The Liberals don’t have to “find” a bunch of fraudulent votes for the LPC to win a riding that should have gone CPC.

      They can just swipe some CPC votes and replace them with PPC, “Well! Max certainly was a Dark Horse.” Clever way to steal.

      1. Methinks thou dost protest too much. Since the debates are managed by Liberal hacks, and they know that the election is already over and who won, what do they care if Bernier participates?

        And, yes, I will cast my ballot even though I know my vote won’t make one bit of difference.

  5. In the linked article from CTV politics, does anyone else think the photo of Max Bernier looks altered to add a Hitler style moustache?

    Or does the sun shine that brightly in Ontario? (I know it shines from Justin’s derriere, perhaps that was overhead).

  6. The only reason they are including Max is the fact that they all looked like Trudeau clones at the last debate. None of them are offering a real alternative, and they think they can use Max as a pinata, and score virtue points by attacking the supposed Redneck.

    I’m voting Max. If we go down in flames, I’ll stick to my principles as much as I can. Sure, he’s a Quebecer which is a strike against him, or maybe he’s a passing fad, or an egotist, or then again maybe he’s here for the longer game, either way, I agree with him more than any other candidate.

      1. Indiana Jane
        Indiana Jones
        Being that thick that you don’t get it. No wonder you’re voting the 2% solution.

        1. Ever heard of Indiana Homez, Dumbass? Used to be a regular here for years. Jane showed up just after Homez ‘speared.
          Homez lived in Indiana. Yeah I know, difficult concept for a Dumbass newbie to grasp.

          1. I love archaeology, that’s why I adopted Indiana. Kind of like choosing the word Lighting if you’re a fast guitar player. You could simply ask why I chose a name instead of being an ass. And further to your inquiry, I am Canadian and vote only in Canada. Is that enough for you or do you require more tending?

          2. “Is that enough for you”

            I asked if you voted in both Canada and the United States. You are dissembling. Speak plainly. Do you or don’t you?
            Additionally, do you or did you personally know the person who posted here as Indiana Homez outside of this blog?

          1. Do you realize how idiotic your comments are becoming? Are we to assume you relocated from Kansas to some mythical world and are now voting in two areas as well? Are you from Oz? is it okay to look behind the curtain to see if there is a functioning brain there? Are you voting in Oz? Did you get a house dropped on your head? This is how you sound.

  7. Kate you really believe in polls when we three day ago played a fast one on a poll?

    Kate the Liberals will get decimated come election results everyone can’t stand him even Liberals.

    Canadians finally have an option of bringing in real down to earth Canadians MP’s who want to right what the the LibCons have done to our once great country.

    https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/platform

    Lastly

    From my PPC candidate that is running in my ridding.

    By Syl Sep 16 2019 11:46AM

    Canadian diversity is well represented in the PPC but they all Canadian first. The multiculturalism Act provides an outlet for Government funding to promote diversity, there’s many other things funding could go to considering multiculturalism is protected in our Charter of Rights and Freedom.

    We think promoting the sharing of our Canadian values is more important.

    If you are thinking of voting Liberal, expect to be fined if you don’t bother voting while voting Conservative also means paying more for everything touched by carbon taxes, more for dairy, eggs and poultry. Don’t be fooled, conservatives will only rename the tax, Mr. Chong confirmed it in our first debate.

    Syl Carle

    People’s Party of Canada Wellington Halton Hills.

    https://www.theifp.ca/news-story/9587897-4-candidates-running-in-wellington-halton-hills/

  8. Well first of all I wouldn’t believe any numbers coming out of Abucus data and David Coletto, he’s just another Liberal party eunuch like Nanos… . Including Bernier in the womans debate will only serve to take the heat off of Turdhole, instead of attacking Turdhole’s dismal record of corruption and authoritarian globalism the consortium woman will now focus their attacks on Max, deflecting attention away from the Turdhole… Max is a lot easier to attack then Scheer, but expect the Turdhole lady fan club consortium to associate Max and Scheer together… Max has been included to help keep the heat off the Turdhole, plain and simple. Turdhole could wipe his ass with the Maple Leaf Flag sell British Columbia to the commie Chinamen, obstruct justice, stand in the way of multiple investigations including an RCMP investigation and the insufferable turd will be re-elected by a feckless divided public only interested in their particular tribe.

  9. So Max will show up and Trudeau will skip another one? Maybe Max will be the only one to show up, and everyone else will skip it, as it is known to be unimportant…

    1. What is the point of showing up for a debate where you don’t get to spar with the Incumbent?
      Surely the point is NOT to fight over who gets to be the Top Loser.

  10. The debate commission is run by Groper and the Unifor media. This is just another Gerald Butt ploy to get everyone to pile on Max and Scheer at the debate and leave Justin alone.

  11. I want Max to win – his riding. The rest of his party is a joke. Other than a few thousand conservatives that are deluded into thinking that the nation has had a conservative-libertarian epiphany and they will suddenly see the light and vote for a party of people looking for their 15 minutes of glory under Max, it’s just a distraction. This election, like most federal elections in Canada is not about voting for someone you like. It’s about voting for the people of the party you hate the least and that have a chance at success. If the PPC picks up more than 10% of the popular vote, putting it within a couple of more election cycles of success, I’ll happily eat crow.

      1. It isn’t me you have to convince. If Max’s party had a chance, I’d happily vote for them. It’s the millions of people that vote in our elections that could care less about Max’s platform that count. I hate the conservatives, just less than the “only” other contender. Get out of this echo chamber and convert the masses of mushy middle and mindless voters otherwise you’re a broken record. I lived through Reform and the years it took to get anywhere and I don’t think Max’s party, if it lasts beyond this election, could do it any sooner.

        1. How come all the folks here who say vote for Scheer can’t give one simple link to the CPC Platforms?

          All you get when you asks is blah blah blah.

          But never a link to Scheers Platforms is all just smoke and mirrors.

          Vote PPC and take back your Canada.

          1. And what exactly does the platform signify? Or prove?

            I’ve never seen a Canadian political leader follow his platform after elected; nor do most of them even mention it afterwards. It’s electioneering; “Vote for ME and I’ll…” and then they don’t, ever. I think the best example would be Lyin’ Brian, who announced that the focus of his (last) term in office would be “Science and Technology” – make Canadian industry world leaders again! He announced this halfway through the term, i.e., after he’d already been in office for two years that time around, and he hastened to add that his government would be contributing no resources to it; Canadian industry was expected to put-in all the effort. Meaningless? A sad caricature of how governments should work?

            I prefer “typical” – after all, how much of Trudeau’s platform has he actually done? Or even mentioned?

          3. BERNIER CANNOT WIN THE ELECTION!!!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK, IDEOLOGICAL SKULL! A VOTE FOR BERNIER IS A VOTE FOR TRUDEAU!!!

    2. Ah, the old tried and true Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. No logical arguments to make, so appeals to emotion/authority/name calling.

    3. Quite wrong there. His party is not a joke. And many members are not “ex-conservatives”. The “ex-conservatives” in this race are the Scheer.

    4. Canada is a socialist country no matter who wins. Dump on Max all you want but he is the closest to being conservative than any other politician that I see out there. Canada cannot have what is left of it’s wealth squandered on welfare immigrants and so called “social programs”. We need to get back to work and that means developing our energy sector to the max and getting productive industry going again. No more BS made up government jobs.

  12. if the bible thumpers in the conservative party just chucked their bible BS, they would pick up a lot of liberal voters, simple as that to win

    2. Unfortunately what Canada is becoming is the result of too many “chucking ” their Bibles. You sure are not an example I would hold up as a person to emulate. You seem to be against that which made us civilized and peaceful. Our laws and moral values, that includes yours if you have any are derived from the Bible and the teaching of Christ. You may try and dismiss such a comment but it is true and only an illiterate fool could possibly think otherwise.

  13. Max should concentrate on the carbon tax. Make it simple for the voters. “Elect our party, no carbon taxes. We don’t support them and we don’t believe in the rationale given for them. Cheaper gas means lower prices on all consumer goods and services, not just gasoline itself.”

    In BC, the ridiculous Suzuki-wet-dream carbon tax has schools paying huge surcharges on their heating bills. Guess who pays for those. That’s what the other parties want for the whole country, totally bogus and unnecessary carbon taxes, and the real reason for them? not to save the earth, the politicians cynically know that they don’t work that way, the money goes straight into general revenues to pay for higher public sector salaries and pensions.

    That’s why they want you to believe in climate change, it makes them and their friends wealthier. It’s a scam.

    1. “In BC, the ridiculous Suzuki-wet-dream carbon tax has schools paying huge surcharges on their heating bills. Guess who pays for those.”

      The A-holes who live in B.C. and are blocking a pipeline from Alberta to the West Coast are, yes?
      BFD. They are paying the provincial taxes they voted for. Suck it up, Buttercup!
      Why didn’t they vote conservative? Would that be because B.C, has no conservative party whatsoever? Why is that? HUH?!

    2. Peter O’Donnell – “That’s why they want you to believe in climate change, it makes them and their friends wealthier. It’s a scam.”

      That’s IT. The carbon credits paid by western corporations help build up CHINA and INDIA. Our corporations have state-of-the-art plants built in China, rather than in Canada. Our corporations employ Chinese and East Indian workers. Climate change is a natural occurrence, ever since the Earth came into being. If politicians want to use ‘climate change’ as a political tool, use common sense and enact incentives for Canadians to move to places where population density is not already an issue.

      What I like about Max is that he lives in the real world. Trudeau doesn’t. Scheer is a wimp.

      1. “What I like about Max is that he lives in the real world.”

        Maybe Max does live in the real world, but you do not.
        Max lives in Quebec where it doesn’t matter which party wins the election, Quebec still makes out like Bandits.
        In the Real World Quebec and it’s benighted citizen Max don’t give a diddly damn about the rest of the country. They still get PAID.
        In the REAL WORLD Max can promise the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars and it doesn’t matter because Max Bernier’s one-man-party will never have the power to have to deliver or renege because Max WILL NOT WIN and become Prime Minister!

  14. Well the commissioner did mention polls. The he wasn’t quite as clear on which polls. I bet the liberal polls show the liberals heading for sure defeat so the liberal commissioner is attempting to split the conservative vote.

    1. The PPC isn’t splitting the vote it’s gathering it from all political parties for Canadians have had enough of the dreaded LibCons in power it’s all the same scams.

      Canadians know it’s time to get off the LibCons Clowns Globalist Corrupt Merry-Go-Round

      All the LibCons ever do is keep us circling the drain as they govern all Canadians to fall further into totalitarianism as per the LibCons Globalist Plans

      Canadians are done with the LibCons Clown Circus Show and they are not taking it anymore now that they finally have a real pro Canadian Party in the PPC and that is how the PPC is gathering the votes.

      1. “it’s gathering it from all political parties for Canadians”

        Liar. Quebecois who vote for the Bloc do not consider themselves Canadians.
        What does Bernier have to offer Leftists who vote NDP or Green to draw votes that their own parties do not already offer, eh? Nothing.

        Bernier is only splitting the Rightwing vote. Many who voted for the LPC may change to CPC, but Bernier is an unknown and they change their vote because they are disenchanted by the LPC knowing only the conservatives as an alternative,
        not because Bernier is some kind of ‘Political/Economic Epiphany made Incarnate’.

          1. Your game is siphone off the Rightwing vote to allow Trudeau to have a 2nd Term. I’m not playing your game.
            My goal is to prevent Trudeau from having a 2nd Term in the real world where people are hurting very badly.

          2. All I hear from you OZ is blah blah blah

            Just give us the link to the CPC Platforms

            What are you all so afraid of?

            Your acting like Scaredy Cat Scheer

          3. “All I hear from you OZ is blah blah blah”

            That is just because you’re glitching again Maxbot.

            Or is it too many syllables? Maybe you should try sounding off the longer words?

        3. No, he is gathering the libertarian vote and disaffected voters; many who usually don’t bother to vote because it makes no diffference. Vive la diference!

          As for teh “he’s from Quebec” BS, he actually HAS a plan to deliver pipelines across the country. Scheer doesn’t and the other three want to prevent them.

          Going along to get along has had its day; it has been the downfall of the conservatives since for ever. They never should have established the CBC; what was Borden thinking?

      2. Horseshit. No Dipper, Green or Lieberal is going to vote for Max and his party. EVER
        And no sane Not From K-bec Canadian would vote for another K-bec Prime Minister. 40 out of 50 years we’ve had an asshole from K-bec and look at the country: divided and debt-ridden with neo-Marxism marching as strong as ever.

          1. Not trying to be nasty Angel but I don’t know of any liberal, ND or Green that would vote for Bernie. The only people Bernie will attract is right side conservatives. I happen to be one so I understand the allure. However I also know that I am in a very small minority so voting for Bernie is a defacto vote for Justin . Life isn’t fair and politics is even less so but it is all we got. A vote for Bernie will be a vote for Justin.

          2. The PPC has members from every party they all came from somewhere else they didn’t just magically appear.

            So Joe the Albertan can you give me a link to the CPC Platforms for I have tried the CPC website and for some reason I just can’t find it, why is that?

          3. “else they didn’t just magically appear.”

            Finally you speak a small truth. They didn’t just magically appear. They don’t exist at all.
            Only a vanishingly few souls have bought into your humbug. They are but a figment of your propaganda and rhetoric.

          4. “Game on …”

            What game? You can’t address his points so you’re trying to change the topic again? Pathetic bot.

      3. No left wing voters are voting for Bernier. The only votes Bernier is getting is from right wing voters. Period. He’s splitting the vote. Give it up.

        1. Boy oh boy the PPC have former Liberals, NDP and greens.

          I’m sorry am I poking a big fn hole in your Scheer bubble?

          Truth always wins

          That’s why the PPC is going to win big.

          1. “That’s why the PPC is going to win big.”

            Sure, and if not will you agree to f*** off and don’t comeback?

        2. Pete, yes agreed. We all know these rabid leftard partisans, Im surrounded by them, and NONE of them would ever vote for someone not spouting leftwing, unions first, socialist drool.

          That outcome is OBVIOUS to all but the most ideologically BLIND….like the copy/paste bot on this board.

        3. Correct, no leftie will vote for Scheer either, but he keeps on trying to get their vote with left policies.

          No, he is gathering the libertarian vote and conservative vote and disaffected voters; many who usually don’t bother to vote because it makes no diffference.

  15. Max Bernier should bring “Madame-Madame Madame Madame Madame” on the hustings with him. She’s the woman who dared ask Trudeau a question about immigration last year at a corn boil in Saint Jean sur le Richelieu Q-bec. The great Leader, in his wisdom, chose to have a shouting match with her and his thugs tried to arrest her while man-handling her and bruising her arms. It would have been an embarrassment had they done so. Not good for Liberal business, and on camera, too!

    Bravo to Max for winning a rightfully deserved spot at the debate podium.

    Go ‘und’ get it Max!

    1. “Winning”

      LOL you Maxipads are amusingly delusional. You think that Libranos allowed him to run because they had a change of hart? Because they care about the rules? Because they did not want to be unfair? Grow up. The Grand Maxipad did not win anything. He was handed it down by Libranos because they changed their strategy.

        1. I can spell “brain cell” though. You should not be trying that without supervision and a helmet.

  16. Unfortunately, much as I supported Max down the line for the leadership, he has no regional or other demographic or issue-based concentration of support that would allow him to win even a few seats (maybe around the Quebec City area, but I’m not really seeing even that in the polling). He’s polling at about two or three percent overall, which is about one-fifth what the Green Party or the NDP is polling, and they’ll only win a couple of handfuls of seats each at the most.

    Quite apart from which, Max has not been anywhere near Preston Manning- or Nigel Farage-level effective, so far at least (and it’s very late in the day), at raising his party’s profile, except among some unsatisfied conservative-minded voters (I have considered voting PPC seriously, but see it as a pointless gesture right now). This is no different than most other previous elections that I can recall, which used to also feature a Family Coalition or Christian Heritage party, for example.

    So, I’m thinking that trying to apply the Reform Party or Brexit Party models to the PPC is not really plausible.

    Plus, who really knows how effective another debate or two with five or six party leaders is going to be as a source of information for the public? It was a waste of time in 2008, with the lot of them sitting around in a semi-circle, which had the net effect of making Stephen Harper look like the adult in the room by not being able to get a word in edged-wise.

    Scheer has had a good first week for a number of reasons, one of which was that he showed up to a three-person debate and performed decently within a reasonable amount of allotted time (calm, cool and collected is what most with whom I speak think). If Trudeau had showed up (another double-whammy unforced error on his part), the dynamic of a small number of participants being able to speak with limited unintelligible bickering among several of them would have been destroyed, rendering that part of Scheer’s advantage null.

    (Incidentally, in this last regard, what I’m finding at the door is that people aren’t so much angry at Trudeau — although there’s plenty of that out there, too — as they are concerned about whether he has the judgment to be prime minister. Not showing up to that Maclean’s debate did him no favours, believe me.)

    The night-mare scenario for the Liberals is where things start trending Tory (and we’re pretty close to that now; technically, I can’t remember any previous election campaign where the media and the Liberal Party were in full panic mode after Day 4 like they were on Sunday), and Trudeau decides to attack Scheer in a nationally-televised debate and gets shouted down by the other party leaders for his hypocrisy, while Scheer stands calmly and cooly, looking directly into the camera (maybe he gently throws up his hands, while adducing a mildly quizzical facial expression).

    So, overall:

    – The pipelines have to get built,

    – The carbon tax has to be removed, along with Gerald Butts (it has quite literally shocked me about the number of people I speak with who know that Mr. Butts is back in the picture and who are disturbed about it),

    – The PRC has to be confronted, and

    – The replacement for the CF-18s has to get done (to name but a few).

    The central question for me is: “Looking out over the next four years, which party and party leader is most likely to achieve, and be in a position to achieve, an agenda that looks like these points?”

    I’m of the view, at the moment, anyway, that, while I agree that the decision to include Max in the debate format may have been a cynical move made in a panicked moment, the jury is still out on its impact.

    And, frankly, I don’t really care, expect for the purposes of this discussion, which is an important one that people need to get with. I was a Max supporter and I’m voting CPC. If the intent is to create vote splitting, it will have zero impact around here: every Tory MP here in southwestern Ontario whose riding boundaries lie with 50+ miles of the 400-series highways (401, 402 and 403), to the east of the City of Windsor ON (we’ll also probably take back Essex) and west of the boundaries of the City of Hamilton ON (we’ll probably also get one or two in London and one or two in Kitchener-Waterloo) will be re-elected.

    1. What a load of bull.

      Another CPC vote against something instead of voting to elect real change.

      Well Davis Southam please provide a link to the Scheer CPC Platforms please or are you just another political hack trying to scare Canadians in voting for balless Scheer who Platforms mirror Trudeau’s Globalist Plans.

      My point for asking all you chicken shut scare mongering CPCers was to prove a point to all the readers on this site that you are all scared of Max and the PPC and so are the Liberals that’s why we call them the LibCons the party of one always lying and conning that’s all they do and their scare tactics will not work this time.

      The LibCons are both going to lose this election for Canadians have had enough of their totalitarian dictatorship governments period.

      Btw where’s the CPC link for their Platforms for the 2019 election why are they hiding it???

      It’s because the CPC can’t let you see them for who they actually are and that is Scheer the balless emperor has no clothes

      1. You can be ticked at that cold-water splash of Max’s actual election chances all you wish, but it doesn’t change them. Max will be lucky to win his own seat; he certainly won’t win any more than that. He was delusional to try & launch a national party in time for this election and try painting himself & his party as a genuine alternative to the Conservatives. He should’ve gone small, strategically picked a small number (20 at most, I’m thinking) of ridings, ran the very best candidates he could there, with the goal of electing 3-5 MPs. That would’ve been a phenomenal result for a new party and really given him something upon which to build.

        Instead, he’s going to embarrass himself nationally, his party’s going to flame out, and worst-case, he’ll cause a view close ridings to tip Liberal due to siphoning off just enough votes from Conservative candidates.

        AND I’M NO FAN OF SCHEER. He’s a limp-wristed pushover who won’t amount to jack spit as a Prime Minister. Even if he wins a majority (and he won’t), he won’t meaningfully change the course of the country. It’ll trod along just waiting for the next Liberal saviour to retake power and continue driving us harder & harder to the left.

        If you really want Trudeau gone, you have to vote Conservative. If you think it doesn’t really matter in the long run – and that’s where I’m at – it hardly matters for whom you vote. My riding’s going L by a landslide anyway.

  18. From what I can see, there is no appreciable difference between the CPC and the Liberals. The Libranos are relying on Trudeau’s hair, a dumb downed left wing electorate, and a bribed and paid for media party, for the win & Scheer seems to be flopping around every which way, depending the way the wind is blowing at the time as for what to support – subject to change.
    As for the PPC, they have put forth a common sense, realistic, Canadians first, achievable platform and are not afraid to discuss any issue, including political correctness, that has neutered our country of free speech.
    More of the same, or the lesser of two evils, just is not good enough.

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