Family endures heavily-armed RCMP takedown on Alberta farm
“I’m a guy with a young family. I teach piano for a living, I’m not a drug-dealing thug,” the 29-year-old told Postmedia on Wednesday.
“I thought they were going to kill my wife, my kids and I. Every time I close my eyes, I see a gun pointed at my head.”
In a statement from RCMP, which said they will provide “no further commentary” on the incident, the force said the tactics used were in response to the seriousness of the complaint.
h/t to Larry, who has more to say.
This isn’t the first such incident. It won’t be the last. If the mother, father and two toddlers were killed. Then there might be an apology and officers reassigned. But just as Premier Jason Kenny refuses to address the High River incident. This will be smoothed over and the RCMP and Crown Prosecutor’s will go to every length to get a conviction on anything, no matter how small to justify this SWAT team raid.
A few years ago, a pest control officer for the Town of Foam Lake came very close to being shot be an RCMP officer. How many cases don’t make the news ? That is a state secret ! Gun control is just one of the federal gov’t. steps for removing “settlers” from rural Canada, and, I’d argue, bringing into effect P.M. Justin Trudeau’s stated goal of making Canada, the first post nation-state.
David DeWolfe’s cell phone video here.
Problem being, those guys will be going with you to the new country.
You can blame the neighbor on this one a simple phone call or a visit would have verified what was going on.Then I blame the rcmp who could have stood back at a distance with binoculars and in minutes realized the terrorists were just shooting rodents.Hope the neighbor gets charged
If you are going to shoot guns on your property, notify your neighbors and tell them what the gun shots they are about to hear is all about and that you have their safety in mind.
A little friendly heads up would of stopped what came next.
Call the police and tell them as well just to be safe
So I have to call my neighbour before I shoot the coyote coming for my chickens or goats? And I have to inform the cops every time I want to plink? Get real.
That’s one shot maybe two at the most
How many multiple shots before the neighbor called the police?
When I was 12 I carried my pellet gun everywhere I went, those days are over, to many snowflakes
You must not have gophers on your “farm.”
Should have a national non-restricted gun march on Parliament Hill. Bring your favourite NS weapon obviously as per the law. Could work wonders if you could get enuff: 1. Women 2. Lawyers 3.Doctors 4. Teachers
Not every time, if you are a good neighbour with good neighbours. If you live in a place rural enough to shoot on your properties, you probably can let your neighbours know that it happens from time to time and that if they are ever worried that gunshots on your property might indicate something wrong, they are welcome to telephone you and check before they call for the police to waste time and taxpayers’ money.
Exactly. I was once on a friend’s acreage in the Sierra foothills as a young 7 yo kid in the early 1960’s … when all of the sudden it started raining buckshot on the metal roof of my friends home. There were a couple yahoos shooting at birds from a few hundred yards away … in the heavy oak woodland with no respect to the background. All that was needed was a verbal warning followed by a 45cal. Round into the dirt. (by my friends Dad)
However, I am certain that no SWAT team would have shown up to arrest the idgiots… more like the local sheriff lecturing the knuckleheads to think before they shoot.
This is a FARM. No neighbours are within gunshot hearing. NONE. For a farmer, you talk like you’re NOT a Farmer, but instead are in an Urban or Suburban zone and have no knowledge of how FAR a gunshot report carries.(not FAR given FARM distances)
I’m on a farm. I’ve had Elmer Fudd show up -literally- in my back yard with a dog and a shotgun. “Hunting rabbits” they said. In my back yard. I did -not- call the cops, because I didn’t want a freakin’ SWAT team driving a tank across my yard. I did ask the Fudds if it would be okay for me to come to their damn backyard in the city and “hunt rabbits.”
Maybe its different in Sask, but there’s not many farms in Southern Ontario that the neighbors can’t hear a gunshot.
Now, if you know your neighbors, you can make arrangements to let them know you’re thinning the groundhog population not starting WWIII. If your neighbor is some kind of lunatic, you can also call the local police detachment and let them know you’re shooting groundhogs. It is asinine that we have to do that, but guess what? We do.
Look up the Jonathan Logan case in Ontario. That’s what is standard operating procedure now.
I watched the video. That guy with the video camera is a dumbass. When the cops come to your place, you lie on the ground with your hands on your head and you say NOTHING. You let them shoot the dogs. Because a dead dog is better than a dead wife and kid. There’s nothing you can do about it. Shut up, keep that camera running, and pray the lawsuit turns out well.
They really will shoot you, your wife AND your kids. They will. Do not ever, ever doubt it.
Welcome to Canada.
The neighbour reported to police that they were shooting at his house. That requires emergency response. If someone is shooting at my house, I want emergency response. The neighbour will not be required to prove shots were fired at his house. If your neighbour bears false witness against you, the best lawyer in the world would need more good luck than could reasonably be expected, in order to get a favourable outcome. This is a huge win for your neighbour and may embolden him. If you can’t make peace or buy him out, you might need to move. Life is not fair. Justice is expensive and in this case probably unobtainable. Unless your friends did actually cause a projectile to pass within 100m of an occupied building, in which case justice will be done when the fine is paid.
I shall now take a few minutes to thank God for my good neighbours.
[Allegedly] the neighbour reported to police that they were [allegedly] shooting at his house.
FTFY.
One of two things happened.
1. Either the neighbor lied or
2. The JBTs lied.
In all likelihood both. The neighbor probably reported some people shooting and feeling unsafe because the neighbour hates guns. And that was excuse enough for the subhuman goons to terrorize an innocent family.
The neighbour was most likely the NDP-voting mistress of a rich globalist, who works in Calgary to pay for his darling’s hobby farm, purchased to keep her out of his hair and to keep his alleged heirs and successors (whom he may or may not have actually sired) as far away from “diverse” children as possible.
She panicked and called the Mounties, thinking it was Indian braves or other “diverse” thugs killing each other in her back yard. (In the city, it would have been.)
Women never lie, obviously, and the ones with rich sugar daddies can count on daddy’s spending as much on lawyers as necessary to make the consequences of their babies’ stupidity go away.
She won’t be charged. Consequences are for people who work for a living, believe in God and vote Socred or Wildrose or UCP.
If these cops were well-trained they wouldn’t be screaming at unarmed citizens. Or do the half-wits in Regina recommend screaming because it helps keep cowards from shitting themselves.
They were probably all puffy-chested afterwards, maybe some high-fives and BS with beers.
Making enemies of allies is a dead end game.
“When advised by DeWolfe that the encounter is being filmed, the unidentified officer can be heard to say, “Don’t be a retard.”
According to today’s politically correct rules,the RCMP Officer should immediately be dismissed for using the “R” word.
The RCMP are an army of occupation, they should have been replaced by Provincial forces years ago, but Provincial politicians love having an armed force on their side just in case. We’re still waiting for the High River investigation by either a federal Liberal or Conservative government,or a Provincial Conservative, NDP, or UCP government.
As larry says,there are dozens of these instances that don’t make the news. Someone here should ask the new Preem when the investigation into HR is going to start. You will undoubtedly be disappointed. Kenny the rebel? lol Just another comfortable member of the political establishment.
“The RCMP are an army of occupation, they should have been replaced by Provincial forces years ago,”
Oh yeah provincial police solves the problem. Just ask people in Caledonia.
Dude. You win the internets today. ~:D
Provincial politicians love not having to persuade their electors to cough up the extra taxes, (or forego some government largesse,) to fund setting up and maintaining a Provincial Police that cannot be guaranteed to provide more or better service than contract policing from the RCMP without the same problems or different problems that are as bad.
If a provincial government can’t get satisfactory policing done by the RCMP it is unlikely to have the capability to manage a provincial police force, let alone create one from scratch.
May I add to that? When the RCMP piss off the people the Prime Minister is down wind. When the Provincial police piss off the people the premier is down wind.
Mr. Kenney may have some idea of who dictates to whom in the RCMP – Turdo relationship. Which may give him pause when considering creating a similar monster.
Damn all those years of posting on SDA I always thought OZ was a real person. Yet he turns out to be just a voice in my head. LOL.
“You think we are not smart enough to see that who you really are?”
Who is that “we”? Maxbots are one.
RCMP. The only reason you need to justify your own provincial or municiple police. And they just gave them assault rifles. So scary. I have seen their course of fire training. Minimal.
Gerry K.
Practiced shooters are more of a threat to the establishment, because we can accurately shoot back, and are therefore more of a threat if the SHTF. Having goons in full battledress is meant to intimidate, and keep us all pliant. This happened on a farm in Alberta! I would imagine gunshots are a regular occurrence in that Province. If that caused a full squad attack, without considering the reality of the locale, then you can bet it was deliberate. By the way, even the newly minted Alberta Gov, is still sidestepping enquiries into High River, hmmm I wonder why? Dennis Young can’t get much disclosure from them, anymore than he could from the prior inhabitants of the Legislature. Lets face it, There is Govmnt, and Goons, then there is us, being nicely kept divided by our political masters. Dig deep enough and they are all the same. Keep us in beer and hockey and thus keep us controllable. They don’t like it when we get uppity!
K Division (Edmonton HQ rcmp) answers to Ottawa. They don’t have to explain themselves to some pissant Alberta politico even if it’s the Solicitor General.
The Provinces that utilize the rcmp get billed by the feds. Apparently it’s a discounted rate for policing but who would know as I doubt the feds could even come up with an accurate calculation. You think Alberta’s rate would be the same as the rate in say PEI or NB?
The debacle that took place in High River might never have been explained (by the rcmp) to the Alberta government (Redford). In situations like this the rcmp typically tells the government to go pound sand. “We don’t answer to you,” is their customary response.
RCMP worried about gopher hunters but let indians ransack farms. And then we have Groper bringing in ISIS fighters, but Ralphie says they will get a 15 minute telephone interview every now and then.
“Do we love you?
Yes we do.
I’ll sent my love in a Molotov cocktail…”
Joy Division ,maybe.
Can’t remember the name of the band,that will come to me much later.
The limitation of Government,is one of those tricky arguments.
How much is the citizen willing to do for themselves?
How to limit the combined force of the mob,thats government, to just educating the fools and bandits of each generation?
Theft by government is justified in many ways,yet always ends up with this,individuals on their own property causing grief to no one,wind up under the gun.
Is it trespass when the cops do it?
Yes we need a New Country” but how shall we restrain the fools and bandits?
Is the Small town solution of the South for us?
Open carry,every resident is expected to enforce the agreed upon rules?
An armed society is a polite society.
The failure of government force to deter crime,their failure to enforce our laws and their own blatant lawlessness all are telling us the obvious.
Justice is not ,when the bureaus hold it hostage.
Do not steal ,your government hates competition.
Do not have firearms,your government sees that as their exclusive right.
Which leaves the age old question.
“What is a weapon?”
If I enjoy using a forge,am I a weapons manufacturer?
Or if I can sling a rock?
Two hands?
Or the Liverpool kiss?
Where does it end?
This was another case except the person was killed. What the report doesn’t tell you is why they went there in the first place with a full tactical unit. In short – he owned a rifle.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/no-charges-after-lengthy-investigation-into-2014-police-shooting-death-1.3864824
As always: routine stonewalling, cynical abuse of the system, and complete lack of transparency.
Worthless sociopaths, jackbooted thugs one and all. Getting their rocks off acting like an occupation force.
Good Lord, how things have changed. I remember plinking in the countryside when I was a kid. We would go into the fields to shoot gophers with our .22s without fear of being called thieves, bandits or terrorists. But that was more than 60 years ago, when the world was much saner and snowflakes only showed up in winter.
We did it too in late September after school hunting squirrels. I took dads nylon 66 with a full box of 22 shells I never came back with many left. We where young and the older ladies would see us walking down the backstreets guns in hand they would smile and say hello we said hello back and walk 3 or 4 miles having the times of our lives . The freedom we had and to me so Canadian ,mind boggling how its all faded away maybe by design.
How I miss those times. Whenever we killed a groundhog or a fox we draped it over a fence post and 9 times of ten there would be a box of whiz bangs on top of that post next time we came by.
Speaking of changing times … today, you’d all three be reported by PETA for thinning the rodent herds. The RCMP would pay you a visit to discuss the “illegal” taking of rodents out of season. And lecture you about “biodiversity”, “endangered species”, and the food chain of raptors. And if you persisted in slaughtering living creatures (which PETA consider as equal -if not superior- to humans) … a group of animal rights goons will show up with bullhorn outside your home.
Has anyone ever seen the RCMP try to de-escalate even the most trivial matters. They are always pushing to take it to the next level. The swine just want to kill anybody.
Bingo. They’re getting their rocks off terrorizing people who they know are innocent. Jackbooted thugs one and all.
I have.
An incoherent young man (mid twenties) came up my driveway in the wee hours and my dogs told him he was unwelcome. He kept coming and I told him he was unwelcome. He insisted and I called 911. The dispatcher said they had a previous complaint and a unit was on route. I eventually got his name and gave it to 911. They knew him. One unit showed up and he fled into the bush. Two more cars and three more cops showed up. After a short chase, They coaxed him out of the bush. Nobody drew a gun. The cops spoke in reasonable tones and after five or ten minutes he turned to be cuffed and got into the unit with only gentle guidance.
I am privileged to live near a town the cops refer to as Mayberry.
You are lucky. In most places if he was carrying a stick he’d have been shot.
It is not all luck. I chose this place with great care and I work to keep it a nice place to live. The NCOIC here is a reasonable guy and whenever they send him a pig, he sees to it, that it is not here long. I know that in most places that poor mental cripple would have received much harsher treatment which would have escalated perhaps to a fatality but he didn’t pick up a stick and at least one of the cops had de-escalation training. That happened a few months ago.
The question was have you ever seen, and I have seen and not just once this is the second moon bat pursuit begun in my driveway. The previous one wielding an axe and yelling at people no one else could see. If he had taken three more steps in my direction I might have ventilated him myself. As it was, he took my shotgun seriously and went up my neighbour’s driveway just as the cops (3 of them) came up mine. Where is Arron they yelled. I pointed. They ran after him…… DROP THE AXE! DROP THE AXE! DROP THE AXE!……..a few thumps, bumps and grunts…….a few minutes of conversation that I could not make out and Arron left in the back of the unit glaring daggers at me. One of the cops was nice enough to walk over and tell me that Arron would not likely be getting bail and that they would call me if he was getting out. That was four years ago. I haven’t seen him since. I don’t think any of those cops had de-escalation training then. Arron is still alive. No cops were hurt. Seemed like officers performing their duty to me.
That is believable. When it comes to trespassing or property crimes the JBTs tend to be very understanding and gentle. However had you tried to defend yourself or your family from the POS that invaded your property the same JBTs you fellate so eagerly would have persecuted you in a heartbeat.
[tone it down. I’m going to be doing cleanup in here, and I don’t appreciate the extra work. – ED]
They only answer to all this gun grabbing nonsense is a Gun Owners Million Man and Woman March on Parliment Hill
Ya I can see how “another three steps” would have led you to believe he was closer to me than he was. How close would you let a phyco with an axe get to you? You have decided I am a liar and I have decided you are a coward. I bet you don’t insult people in such terms when they can reach you. You are unworthy of further notice. Hater.
Just be happy the RCMP don’t return in the night to burn down David’s barn.
They’re good at that.
You don’t want the RCMP in your backyard?
Separate from old Canada. It’s the only way.
I have a .45 cal replica handgun. It looks and hefts like a real Western shootin’ iron. It is not a converted handgun, rather its barrel was plugged in manufacture. It will fire .22 starter’s blanks, but that’s it. It’s complete with a Western belt and dummy loads. I used to bring it out for Stampede and wore it everywhere; to the Stampede, of course, into the bank, the airport (yes, really), to work and cowboy bars. Never a problem and I never drew and pointed it. Ever. Needless to say I haven’t brought it out in decades. That may be one reason why I’m still around.
I believe replica handguns are now illegal in Canada. It’s about appearances not real threats. That’s why Asian martial arts weapons are all prohibited. Someone watched too many movies.
As far as I can tell, (this is not a legal advice) replicas are legal to own, however, if you display it in a manner that a low IQ thug in blue deems threatening (read: any manner) you will face charges and possibly get killed (the killing will be followed by a lengthy investigation of cops by cops that will declare that cops did nothing wrong).
As for Asian martial arts weapons, swords or daggers are legal, however due to the epidemic of ninja starring and drive by nunchaking, ninja stars and nunchaks are illegal. Certain types of knifes like butterflies and switchblades are also illegal because libtards and keeping soccer moms happy.
A whole lot of hypotheticals being thrown around in the comments. I guess if you believe the police are jack booted thugs out to seize all guns then it is easy to fill in all the blanks in this story.
In the original live stream video of Dewolfe’s arrest, he says the police just told him that his neighbour reported he was “shooting at their house”. If this is the gist of the information the police received (not a report of gopher hunting) then I’d say they acted appropriately. One good comment above stated that yes, if someone is shooting at your house you should demand a heavy police response.
Very possible the complaint by the neighbour was made maliciously, or could be a truthful mistake. Or maybe the complaint was legit, and Dewolfe’s friend did something dumb or
dangerous with firearms.
One important lesson around Michael Brown or Colton Bushie you ought to have learned is careful who you make into a martyr for your cause. When the full truth about those incidents came out, their fanatical supporters looked awfully silly. In this case, my instinct says that Dewolfe likely isn’t a great martyr to the cause of gun rights. And I certainly don’t see the anti-police angle in this story.
Still waiting for any media at all to try and talk to the neighbours, get their side of the story. Don’t let yourself get hoodwinked by 1/2 the information, no matter how emotionally or forcefully it is delivered. Dewolfe’s claim of police pointing their guns directly at his wife and children’s heads certainly already has me doubting him.
Seek professional help Jack.
Res ipsa loquitur
“Roszko was a thief, a fraud, a petty drug dealer and, at the end of his miserable life, a murderer. When he took his own life, he removed nothing of value from this world.”
I doubt that someone, like you just pretended to describe, would take their own like.
I also doubt that anything we know about him was true, given that the MEDIA’s only source was the same cops who murdered him.
Hmmmmmm let’s see. Chinese immigrants off the hook in various cases, antifa never touched, terrorist families rewarded millions, settlers constantly rounded up and harassed, I think I see a pattern here ….
[You’re not welcome here, Jack. – ED]
How things have changed.
For me and my friends, a typical Sunday summer afternoon fifty years ago involved hopping in a pickup, driving into Quebec to pick up a cold two-four, and then driving around the backroads of our home township shooting groundhogs.
On one of those days we were driving down a narrow sideroad and were met by a cruiser with one of the cops from the local OPP detachment.
“Who owns the beer?”
(slow show of hands)
“Anybody twenty-one (legal drinking age)?”
Head shakes
“Who owns the guns?”
Two hands went up.
“Hunting licences?”
Head shakes.
“Alright. Put that *&^%$#g beer in the back of the truck till you get home. Put the g-d guns behind the seat and leave them there too till you get home.”
And then we got a dressing down about the absolute stupidity of hunting on Sunday because (a) it was against the law, and (b) it caused city people with country places to call the police.
I wonder how that all would have played out today.
What a beautiful story. Thanks for that. It seems like there was a time when police knew who they served and were given leeway in how the dealt with those who were breaking the law. I guess we have activist lawyers and human rights to blame for the current state of justice.
pffft what do you really expect from an organization infested with sex offenders?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/rcmp-sexual-harassment-lawsuit-100-million-settlement-1.5203683
and THIS one in the works:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/rcmp-bullying-harassment-claims-lawsuit-1.4720126
ah, but ‘cops are tops’ eh?
who serious trusts ANY cop with more than milk money? hmmm?
‘oh derrs lotsandlotsandlots uv gooooooood cops’. well how can you tell? the rotten ones get away with the rottenness because the ‘good’ one engage in the cop version of Omerta E-V-E-R-Y T-I-M-E.
Ive been saying this for about 15 years, NOW the truth is getting out about their malfeasance REGULARLY.
I trust most cops to do what is in the best interest of them collecting their pension. I will happily pay what it costs to keep them between me and the criminally insane. When I was in my late teens I thought the cops had to obey the law. It took years for them to knock that foolish idea out of my thick skull. Generally speaking, they stick a lot closer to the law than I would if I had to do that stinking job.
You are quite right about the omertà thing.
“stinking job”
LOL no other job combines that much pay and benefits, with that much job security, that little oversight, that little accountability, that much opportunity to act out your high school bully fantasies, and that low IQ requirement.
It is this tacit approval of abuse combined with no oversight that leads to cops behaving like an occupation force except with less restrictive rules of engagement.