Coulda Had Max

2019 Federal Election 144 Comments

I’m seriously considering sitting the next federal election out.

Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer is not going to win the Oct. 21 election if he’s running scared of Liberal fear-mongering about Islamophobia by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
 
An indication that’s happening is the party’s recent veto, without explanation, of Salim Mansur from seeking the Conservative nomination in London North Centre.

Simply appalling.

144 Replies to “Coulda Had Max”

  1. Scheer always finds a way to retreat from possible future confrontation. Any risks involved? Retreat! No principles can stand in his way.

  2. The Conservative party has been dead to me for 10 years.
    Real conservatives and libertarians are few and far between in this country.
    Canadians don’t believe in paying debt, national defence or individual rights and freedoms.

  3. “Just not ready” has morphed into “We’re not quite as bad”. This is a winning strategy for a loser party without a leader particularly if you consider an invertebrate as having backbone.

    1. I am the point where I don’t care who wins. We are already on a runaway train heading to oblivion.
      Scheer is a phony a fake, a coward. He is no less an opportunist and no more ‘ready’ than the little twat, Justin Turdoo.

      Canada is addicted to stupidity and socialism, but I repeat myself. Canada will need to hit rock bottom before it can get better. But by then it may not be salvageable as a sovereign state. We may wind up as part of the EU before this is over.

      We won’t likely join the USA because they are about due for a full-blown and much needed civil war. So we will need to wait that out. it may not turn out well either.

      The world wants rid of America and the western world. Most in the western world either don’t know that yet, or they are in denial.

      4. Good comment,Duke!

        The Great Scheer is here in Kelowna for Canader day, the CPC sent me an E-mail on this but didn’t mention what TIME Scheer and local candidate Tracy Gray will grace us with their presence. I suppose we’re expected to go downtown and hang out all day waiting for Our hero to show.

        Wtf was the CPC thinking when they elected this guy?

  4. If a conservative defends himself/herself in a public forum, they will be mercilessly attacked by the biased, leftist media. The media will form a negative narrative, and blast it wall to wall, 24/7, until no one who is listening to them will even consider voting against the Liberals. It does not have to be true or honest — it probably won’t be — but the noise will be sustained and deafening. The media has almost totally taken away the conservative ability to speak and make the case for conservative outlooks and values. I agree that Scheer’s approach looks gutless; perhaps it is. But I think that standing up for himself at this point will destroy the electoral prospects for him and the party. The tactic seems to be to hide in the weeds, and let Juthtin destroy himself. This plan might work, but if it doesn’t is there a “Plan B”?

    1. You left out that the conservative platforms are a mirror image to the Liberals.

      If you vote cons your technically voting Libs.

      That gets us nowhere but the status quo.

      I’m done with the LibCons for they are both equally to blame for the shit show that Canada is.

      We don’t need weak leaders as in Trudope and scaredy-cat Scheer.

      Max and the PPC are the only party standing up fro my free speech as a Canadian and I’ll be dam if I will let the LibCons take that away from me, my family and community.

      Canadians need a fresh start, a new party that isn’t controlled by the UN Globalist leftist sjw’s.

      This was posted on another thread and it’s worth repeating and it’s enlightening.

      Why David Haskell Chose The People’s Party and Not The Conservative Party

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vl_PPc6bcw0

      David M. Haskell:

      Attacks on Freedom of Conscience and Speech in Canada

      Published on Jun 28, 2019

      Showing how Canadians’ freedom of conscience and speech has been eroded under Trudeau’s Liberals,

      David M. Haskell discusses the People’s Party’s plan for restoring those fundamental freedoms.

      The Liberals’ abortion attestation, Bill C-16, M -103, and other issues are also highlighted as is Andrew Scheer’s refusal to stand up for conservatives’ right to free expression.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A0mYyPZfFA4

    2. “But I think that standing up for himself at this point will destroy the electoral prospects for him and the party.”

      The epitaph of the whole ‘conservative’ movement.

    3. “The media will form a negative narrative, and blast it wall to wall, 24/7, until no one who is listening to them will even consider voting against the Liberals.”

      Media formed 100% negative view of Ford, another Ford, Trump etc. Meanwhile when conservatives fight back they win. When they don’t we get Eves, Tory, Hudak. Push back twice as hard, mock them and never apologize. Attack the media, people hate the media, personalize your enemies (Alinsky). Loudly denounce MSM as Trudo’s sycophants (which they are). Boycott them, go to alternative media.

      And (on a personal note), can the Dairy Queen please learn to shake hand like a man?

      2. COLON, to yer question NO F’n NO, the dairy queen ain’t no man!!!

        DQ had a discussion going on face book, trying to ell us how he was accused of being too young to run for PM. So he was trying convince people of him being qualified. I told him it wasn’t his age, but that he wasn’t competent. He never showed up on my FB again. I also e-mail my rep., telling him the same thing, and my rep no longer loves me. Peter principle in full force with many of these so-called-cons.

    4. I agree, and the Scheer-phobics are missing your point. And I will be damned if I will vote for another Quebec pm. He could be the second coming, I don’t care. All I want to see is the end of this pantywaist of a pm. Then we can deal with Scheer.

      1. That’s true, but if Dairy Queen continues alienating and insulting his base in order to appease his enemies he may end up wrestling the defeat from the jaws of victory.

      2. Not vote for another Quebec PM??? Scheer has spent almost his entire life in Ottawa, he is a river crossing from being a Quebecer. Scheer is as much of a “westerner” as I am a “Newfie”

      3. Your nothing but a racist.

        Max has been consistent for over a decade and if you can’t give a man like Max a break over your racist beliefs as an individual man that Max is like you well I pray you’re not judge with the same unprincipled thinking that you stated above, you have no heart.

        1. “Your nothing but a racist.”

          F the Fwench and F Quebec. Go away, separate already. That way we can have a reasoned discussion about a wall and you can become Venezuela of the north.

          P.S. Max is Turdo’s useful idiot.

        4. F*ck Quebec and f*ck you. Calling people racist is the mark of a weakling. I am voting for Max.

          1. Well I respectfully disagree with your voting choice, other than that you’re 100% spot on. LOL.

      4. Ahhh your an idiot for Scheer is Trudeau in a blue suit.

        Stop being a fool led by the LibCons.

      5. Yes Agreed, getting rid of PM Stupid Sox Beta peoplekind is the prime directive.

        Vote for Scheer and his red Tories, then we would best benefit from an internal putsch in the CPC like the Aussies and Brits have done. Mind you, even that strategy is batting 500, as the Aussies seem to have righted their ship, but the Brits ended up with May, and she has clearly been a worse choice than Cameron.

        And still, the CPC keeps up with its doddering “Still not Ready” commercials………..good GAWD CPC. There is too much material with Juthtin speaking his mindless drivel, dancing like a tard as Mr Indian Dressup, etc, than repeating the same previosu failed message. The CPC had an opening here, but it is slowly closing up, with nary a fight. And yet, the dumb, stupid, short attention span Canadian electorate once again, migrates to SIlly Sox, for no apparent reason whatsoever, other than bribes, payola and ignorance.

        Still Trudope MUST be deposed this time around, despite how mushy the Milkman is. This country is barely recognizable as it is, and as for July 1st, well, its JUST another day so long as Trudope is still around. Maybe I will try and dig out an old Red Crimson somewhere and celebrate Dominion Day instead!

      6. How would you “deal with Scheer” when he he is in pwoer, continuing Liberal policies and still paying the $600 million to the non-CBC media and $1.4 billion to the CBC?

      7. Agreed…it is way easier to get rid of a party leader than it is electing a Prime Minister, no lamestream media to get in the way as I don’t know too many (any?) conservatives who pay them any attention.

    5. Scheer shivs the only media in Canada that did support him, Rebel Media.

      Kevin Waugh, MP for Saskatoon Grasswood, spoke in support of the CBC.
      Do they not understand that the CBC hates them?

      1. Stan – “Scheer shivs the only media in Canada that did support him, Rebel Media.”

        Bingo. And Scheer dumps all over conservatives who speak the truth.

    6. “The media has almost totally taken away the conservative ability to speak”

      Bullshit. They’ve lost their balls – that’s the problem. If they spoke out and said what should be said the media would damned well print it.

      1. The Conservative Party of Canada’s maxim “Pension Before Principal”.

        The People’s Party of Canada’s MAXim “Principal and Canada First”.

  5. “I’m seriously considering sitting the next federal election out.”
    But why?
    Never have we been so free to vote for whatever we like.
    Our choice appears to be some deeply unpatriotic parasites or a long shot.
    I did not leave the Conservatives,they left me.
    Nothing of what they espouse,represents me.
    No room in their “big tent” for any of the serious problems and potential problems facing this nation.
    Before Max split from the federal conservatives,not one of the elected beasties spoke for my concerns of a lawless bankrupt state running unchecked.
    A massive cull is required of our so called helpers,there is no middle class left in Canada except those employed in feeding at the trough.
    My Liberal,old style, friends have the same choices,that being none at all.it is just like voting for Lizards.
    May the best lizard win.
    The divide in the country has never been so starkly illuminated.
    Big Government for all?
    Or restrict the State to a minimum?
    Most seem to chose,more even as it costs them their futures.
    We are accelerating into a state imposed lawless chaos,where we will actually have endless laws and regulations that will only apply to the “little people”and other such enemies of The State..
    Oh wait,we are already there.
    So force will become the only recognized authority.
    Truth NOT being a defence ,when you are attacked by the Bureaus.
    Means the only response to state intervention will be tribal violence.
    Better reinstate your Clan linkages in preparation?
    These kind of trends and questions are unacceptable speech in Canada.

    Logically when you shut down speech,other tools will take it’s place.
    2000 bloody years wasted,we do not learn from history.
    Speech and open discussion were the least violent tools we developed to resolve differences between groups of people.
    So is it the intention of our Human Rights Tribunals,Supreme Courts and Politicians to spark a new round of civic violence?
    This question bugs me,Malice or Incompetence?
    We have more “better educated people” than any previous time in our nations history,yet these so called educated persons are setting us on a predictable and very dangerous path.
    They have chosen to not argue their position, but to (attempt to) impose it,by silencing all who question them.
    This has never worked in our past,the repercussions are predictable as sunrise, yet this is the wisdom of our “elites”.

    There is something vaguely pathetic about the non-tool using section of a society,declaring open war upon their tool users.
    As our “Civil servants” have done in Confederated Canada.
    Climate Emergency?
    Good Governance?

  6. In related news Trudeau’s Toronto Star reports that UNIFOR will be spending a truck load of money to defeat Conservative candidates. Gee, isn’t UNIFOR on Groper’s panel to bribe journalists??

    1. Ontario John – the influence and contributions of labour organizations do not necessarily compute to individual votes.

  7. Oh, Andy will win. Chairman Xi’s contempt for Justin is proof of that. Andy will just do what his paymasters in Beijing tell him to do.

    The People’s Party was never going anywhere. (Come on. They’re running Renata bloody Ford.)

    I’m increasingly convinced the PPC is a bogus party set up to give the real rulers of this puppet state the option of splitting the right in the unlikely event that either

    A. the Dairy Queen somehow grew a backbone, or

    B. the Dauphin had somehow got that pipeline to China started and redeemed himself.

    One day we’ll find out what was in it for Max. Preview: there is no such thing as an honest French Canadian politician.

    I decided to sit the election out ages ago. If you’re not Chairman Xi, nobody in Ottawa gives a rat’s ass what you think about anything. In any party.

    1. “There is no such thing as an honest French Canadian politician.” Absolutely 100% agree. The last thing Canada needs is another French Canadian politician, especially in the Conservative Party. Didn’t we learn our mistake with Mulroney? As for Salim, he’s a hot potato for the left to rail against. Scheer would be much better off to do something like name him as a judge than to have him run in the party. The average Canadian will only hear how he doesn’t believe in the 97% consensus science and he’s an Islamophobe. Do you want to win the election or do you want Trudeau for four more years? The NDP just ousted one of their pet Muslims because she said exactly the antiSemitic stuff she thinks. We all know that is how 95% of the NDP think. They aren’t fooling anyone and neither is Scheer. This is all about getting into power and in politics that has nothing to do with truth.

    2. Another stupid racist, can’t give Max the opportunity all you do is just give up.

      Thank God you were not part of the great generation that defeated the Nazis twice.

      We would of lost with you.

          1. So now anyone who doesn’t vote Liberal or liberal Lite are vote splitters? Does that include the NDP and Watermelons?

          1. “A Canadian, you R a idiot.”

            he’s been that under his previous 2 monikers as well . Hope you didn’t just notice!!!

      2. The history of Quebec politicians is poor, when it comes to honesty, there’s no doubt there is no french word equivalent.

        Jean Charest, Mulroney, Trudeau, Trudeau, Bouchard, Chretien, Martin…………………..hmmmmm, there’s a pattern here.

        Why would Max be different, he’s another self-serving Quebec clown. Too many thinking, that this time will be different. WHat’s that saying about trying the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result?

  8. When you legislate in favour of unions, you sanctify organized crime. UNIFOR and others such as CUPE are the organized criminal thugs of the institutional left. Imagine the zeal if they were organized against an actual conservative party.

          1. Nope

            Mulroney took a bag of cash for the Air Canada euro Air Buses.

            Max is not like that Joe.

            It’s ok Max is the best earl deal for Canadians just like Trump is.

            You fools that Actually Think Globalist Scheer on your side will be in for a big surprise for there is no difference either a Trudeau or Scheer Governments I’m voting Max for my and and family rights to be able to speak free speech you Scheer fools go ahead and cut your throats to spite your convictions and racism towards Max.

            You all judge Max that he is emboldened with every French speaking Canadian that ever lived sin.

            Well I know your all trolls.

            Voting for conservative convictions over hatred wins every time and I believe that Canadians are prepared to stand up finally for their God given rights.

            It’s called hope something you racist have know idea about for the hatred you hold inside corrupts you.

          2. Angel, calling everyone who doesn’t agree with you a racist, is so Liberal.

            Thought Max was supposed to be better than that. I guess I was wrong.

  10. Do not sit this next election out! And, as much as I wish to vote for Max, we all must stay with Sheer.
    My son said he will vote for Max to make a statement because the CPC will win with a landslide in his riding anyway. I thought that maybe I would do so as well. Then it hit me like a gong! That is exactly how we got the ‘accidental’ NDP government, in Alberta. I am so gun-shy after those bad years that I can feel it viscerally and I implore you not to make that mistake.
    After, there has to be a concerted drive to change the leader, otherwise we wasted the effort to go from PC to CPC.

      1. NEO, I think you may have principle and reality mixed up. In any case, this is politics and not Sunday school. We need your vote.

        1. He believes in moral victories, they are like real victories except for that “victory” part. Also know as “French victories”.

    3. The sole objective of the Election, for all of us, must be to get rid of the Libranos in a massive rejection of everything they espouse. We can deal with Scheer after the Libranos have been wiped from the political landscape. Who can disagree that Scheer is a spineless and uninspiring “leader”, but we are stuck with him. If the Libranos remain in power Canada as we know it is lost.

      1. Exactly. Or to put it in other words: “when you can’t get what you want, make sure the enemy does not get their preferred choice either”.

    4. CPC will not win with Scheer the man that stands for nothing but the status quo of the Liberal Party transgressions against Canadians.

      1. Transgress against Canada?

        I’ve asked this question five times and Max refuses to answer. Will Max do anything about the “deal” that sees Quebec get $1.7 billion a year from Churchill Falls, whilst Newfoundland gets a paltry $65 million?

    5. I look at Scheer the same way I looked at Kenney here in Alberta. I held my nose and voted to get rid of the NDP, and now we’re delighted that he’s behaving the way a Conservative should. Vote-splitting to support Max is a vote for Trudeau. Sad, but true.

      But since the west (outside the lower mainland) has no place in Canadian confederation anyways, we aren’t represented by the Canadian flag that shows Liberals wherever there’s maple trees as being the important part of the country, if you want separation to occur faster then let the major parties prove that they’ll sink the west. Don’t interfere with your enemies when they’re making mistakes. So if the government of Canada is the high-level enemy, regardless of who’s in power….

    6. Robert Weder, speaking of being “gun-shy”, one item Scheer DID promise was that he would roll back any UN inspired confiscation of our guns that is currently being planned by Bill Blair and the Liberals. The LPC is currently conducting and “end run” by giving responsibility for gun laws to the cities so left-wing councils in all our major cities can ban guns outright.
      Much as I don’t like the guy, Scheer, not Sheer, is the only real alternative in this election,and we are lying to ourselves if we think otherwise. This is Canada, NOT the USA,and while the Yanks area rebellious bunch, we are and have been sheeple in this country since the WW2 generation aged out of relevance.

      Max has NO hope of winning more seats than the Greens. Yes,the country IS run by the Uniparty, and we peasants can’t do a damned thing about it. Revolutions are NOT won by keyboard warriors. And to those who intend to sit out this election, we OWE it to the past generations to exercise our right to vote,for them if nothing else.
      There are usually about nine candidates in each Riding to vote for, many decent Independents if you don’t like the Party politicians. GTF out and vote in memory of the guys who paid for this country.

  11. Scheer is a stuttering cowardly ass and he will most assuredly lose the next election, on purpose, just like Harper. Harper and the Cons wanted to lose the last election so they ran the most uninspired campaign in the history of campaigns… The Con campaign slogan should’ve been “Whatever”… The Cons want Justine to win again so they let the Quebek Dairy Mafia choose Scheer as the new Con patsy, I mean, leader. I’ve seen no evidence that the Cons want to win the next election, or that they should, so Turdholes corrupt one party Post National State is safely in the hands of the most corrupt and the dumbest. Peeairs country is a mess, as planned.

  12. Shortly after Scheer gained the CPC leadership, I had the distinct impression that the only reason he even ran was that his handlers promised him he would never have to worry about the stress of actually becoming PM. To my mind now, his decisions seem more like those of a liberal plant who’s mission is to thwart and kill what’s left of the conservative movement in Canada. You know, the same damn mandate the CBC itself has.

    Kate, here is something I do not believe I have ever confessed to here before. After Harper’s utterly depressing showing as a minority PM, I could not bring myself to support what turned out to be his majority victory. I paced back and forth in front of my local polling station for about 20 mins, anguishing about what to do, then just went home. There was no other option for a Conservative voter at that time, and I HAD TO respect my own beliefs. Where I wish I was dead wrong, sadly I was right and Harper absolutely pissed away the fortunes of Canadian Conservatives during his reign. I did support him last election, but that was ALL about keeping another prick of a Trudeau from being PM. And what did we get for supporting Harper? He was an uninspired embarrassment that election, virtually handing the little shit Trudeau the crown.

    Now, I find myself in a similar situation with the unenergetic, go-along to get-along Scheer.

    But this time I do have an alternative, a party and leader who seem to be as angry about the status quo as I am. Max may be a long shot, but at least he is someone fighting back at the leftist stranglehold on our once great nation. On the other hand, Scheer repeatedly demonstrates himself as a pitiful coward who is quite happy with the status quo. As for “sitting out the next federal election”, there is absolutely no reason to now, with a rare CHOICE for us righties this election.

    1. “Max may be a long shot, but at least he is someone fighting back at the leftist stranglehold on our once great nation. On the other hand, Scheer repeatedly demonstrates himself as a pitiful coward who is quite happy with the status quo.”

      Absolutely. Scheer & Co. have no balls – that’s the problem. If they spoke out and said what should be said the media would damned well print it.

      1. Go Max go!

        It’s the PPC or nobody for me.

        The other parties are: the cowards, the evil, and the insane.

        1. It’s the PPC or nobody?

          Actually by voting for Max someone else, likely Turdeau, will become PM. If that is ok with you, then vote Max. But all votes have results as Wild rose and Conservative voters found out in Alberta in 2015. They voted their “principles” and instead got the party furthest from their “principles”.

          1. Sheers is no better than Trudeau. Lib – Con two side of the same coin. Makes little difference.
            Does not matter who one votes for … The government still gets in …

            If voting really produced results, the powers that be would have made it illegal long ago …

    2. I do not defend PM Harper’s performance in his last, majority govt. and your frustration is understandable.

      But, as you know, a PM with a clear majority has way more power and leeway than a PM with a minority, two opposing parties and a ridiculously biased media. How should a Conservative PM who has won 2 minority governments govern in order NOT to depress voters?

      Remember, it was the foolish way Joe Clarke acted when he had a minority govt that gave us Pierre Trudeau, yet again, and thus, the opportunity to impose the constitutional swamp we now live with.

  13. Despite Scheer being an uninspiring, tepid, beige, milquetoast leader, he is the least bad option. Trudeau has proven himself to be an arrogant, preening, self-aggrandizing, western Canada-hating (except BC) mental lightweight; Max has relegated himself to the fringe, potentially splitting the conservative vote in the process; the NDP repeatedly hamstring or destroy every economy that they touch; and the Greens want nothing less than the imposition of a country-killing enviro-totalitarian regulatory state. If you think it’s been bad under Trudeau’s Liberals, imagine what the NDP and/or Greens in positions of Federal power/influence would do. That’s what Canadian Federal politics have come to: the least bad options.

    But on the bright side we know that there are no saviours available to lead us to sanity (we’ve always known that, TBH). We must hold them all accountable and impose that sanity from the ground up. Easier said than done, I know, but we’ve seen grass roots action work before, albeit to limited effect… meh, grass roots movements invariably are hijacked (see e.g. every Canadian First Nations or environmental group funded by American money) or misrepresented (see e.g. the American media’s portrayal of the Tea Party movement of a decade ago) so it’s not gonna happen. Thus we’re back to the least bad option: Scheer’s PCs.

  14. As much as Scheer may be a bit of a eunuch, another Liberal majority or worse yet, a minority with the NDP or Greens holding the stick would be absolutely disastrous. Wishing and hoping it were otherwise gets you nowhere.

  15. Canada’s like a bad drunk who needs to completely lose everything and hit rock bottom before quitting the booze.
    Canada’s addiction is Big Government Of and For K-bec.
    We need to kick those thieving bastards the f**k out and cut them the f**k off and anyone who sides with them.

  16. I won’t vote for anyone who doesn’t promise to drive a stake through the heart of the CBC, bury it in a coffin full of garlic, and do it in broad daylight!! That’s just day number one in power. Then the the real work starts cleaning up this bloody Lieberal mess.

  17. All the “protest” votes are worst option votes.. I am aspissed as anyone with this pos we have in power,and I read somewhere today that climate twat gave another 200mil of tax dollars away today. So Don’t vote/Max vote, all you are doing is helping the enemy.

      1. I am a realist living under a gov. run by soros and I want no part of it. I am too old to servive under 4 more years under the thumb of a western hating closet queen. I tear my hair out everday, and to be inundated by vote splitting whinners, many who I used to respect(mind you there are many regular voices staying quiet here. Is dis-heartening.

  18. My vote is not to be taken for granted by a party; I won’t be voting for Scheer’s group. If he reminds me of any former Tory PM, it’d have to be Kim Campbell.

  19. In truth the Party one votes for is lying to you. The guy you choose as the leader you want is lying to you. His party is lying to you. I just hope one of them turns out to have some common sense. The current party in control doesn’t seem to have it.

  20. Several times I have checked out the PPC website to find Max’s position on Canada’s military.

    Under election platform you’d think there would be something.

    Didn’t see any thing, but perhaps I’ve missed it.

    Anyone got a link to the Max position on defence?

    1. It’s coming but he already stated he would do more than Harper or Trudeau ever did.

      Patience Max is on his honeymoon and a well deserved break who else in Canada has ever built a national party in one year.

      No one other than Max…

      Just think about hat he can get done when he becomes. Prime Minister.

      Alberta pipelines will be built and well kick out the SA oil wether Irving Oil likes it or not.

      We need to stop buying billions of dollars worth of Islamist Oil every year that only supports the Islamist Sharia agenda in the west.

  21. I am a realist living under a gov. run by soros and I want no part of it. I am too old to servive under 4 more years under the thumb of a western hating closet queen. I tear my hair out everday, and to be inundated by vote splitting whinners, many who I used to respect(mind you there are many regular voices staying quiet here. Is dis-heartening.

  22. This is the freest choice we have had in decades.
    The collapse of Reform and the banishment of all conservative principle from the “Conservative Party of Canada”under Stephen Harper’s guidance should have opened the eyes of voters.
    There are no individual rights in Canada.
    The choice is Thief1,Thief 2or Thief 3 from the ranks of the Uni-Party of Canada or a long shot.
    Whether Max and Company mean a single word of their platform hardly matters,having a genuine Conservative Meme to vote for is a gift.
    Instead of sitting it out,spoiling my ballot or choosing the “least evil”, I can cruise into the voting booth and vote “F.U.” to the status quo.
    I fully expect the PPC to have a full slate of candidates by election time and would note to the nay sayers and “Split the Vote” fear-mongers, to build a party in less than a year is both an impressive effort suggesting widespread ground support, voter dissatisfaction and an indication of how times have changed.
    The old playbook is not working.
    “But you will split the vote”.
    Mighty weak argument,especially from conservatives with nothing to conserve.
    I note with great sarcasm,todays conservatives are as conservative as todays Liberals are liberal.
    John Stuart Mill would be an ALT RIGHT Zealot in todays media.
    From the West,Notley all gone, Trudeau Two’s reelection is a near certainty,whether as Justine or Andrew no one will know the difference.
    Money talks and what it says is Confederated Canada has; No Future that residents of Alberta and Saskatchewan can afford.
    If we want a future for our Grandchildren or even to keep more than 1/2 of our paychecks,we need to ditch the Welfare Queens of the East.

  23. There is not a dimes-worth of difference between never-trumpers and those conservatives who won’t vote CPc.

      1. And they would never see power – Hillary in Washington and Justin in Ottawa for a generation.

        Classic cutting off one’s nose to spite ones face.

        I’m amazed that Kate is part of this group.

        1. Bord Gulk, I’m amazed that you are even stupider than I thought. Go do sum reading on what “democracy” is, and then go look in the mirror. Yer comparison of never trumpers and never cpc’rs just showed me how stupid you are. You are a classic example of what is wrong with the cpc. I’v been trying for a long time to convince the cpc rectums of the errors of their choose of leader. No one return response. Are you like libtards, and simply ignore the pee-ons??

        2. Gord, I love you to death but your analogy is upside down.

          Scheer is the never-Trumper.

          1. Kate:

            Trump is a very moderate conservative on many many issues.

            Just a few examples:

            Ethanol subsidies
            Deficits and debt
            Healthcare reform
            Some areas of foreign affairs

            And he is running for office in a country where about 50% of the voting population is conservative versusless than forty in Canada and he has the luxury of running by himself on the ticket – scheer does not.

            Never trumpers and max supporters /never scheers are too pur Laine to vote fir the most conservative option THAT HAS A REALISTIC CHANCE IF WINNING.

            Politics is the art of the possible.

            President trump became possible because he was more moderate on a range of conservative issues and more importantly the Dems had gone too far left under Obama (Obamacare) and nominated THE WORST DEM since McGovern.

            I fully expect the cpc to run to the centre between now and October. And god-willing if they get a majority they will govern significantly to the right of that.

      2. Just like Wild Rose and Conservative voters in Alberta in 2015. They voted their “principles” and got Nutley’s NDP.

        Nutley was about as far away from conservative principles as anyone can get.

        The conservatives of this country have a wide range of political positions. Unfortunately if they don’t get everything they want, they splinter off and end up getting the opposite of what they want.

        1. The conservatives in Alberta at that time had no principals; it was merely the pathway to a pension. How do you explain the last leader of the Albertan “conservative” party, red liberal Alison Redford? The Red Witch from the West?

          1. Jim Prentice was the last leader, other than interim leaders.

            I couldn’t stand Redford. But Nutley was worse, which is my point.

            Now, having run across Jim Prentice in some business dealings, I found that I could not vote for him. I voted Wild Rose and had to live with the consequences; Nutley and her band of sozis. Which were much worse than Stelmach, Redford, or Prentice.

        2. yah joe, the cons have a wide range of political positions, and none of them are conservative!

          1. NME.

            Just look at the range of positions advanced by SDA readers.

            Most will never strike common ground with other conservatives and people in the centre. So enjoy life in the political wilderness as left wingers collaborate and rule.

    2. Maximum BS GT.

      Never-Trumpers in the US are equivalent to Never-MAXimums in the Dominion.

      i am a MAXimum.

      MAXimum Liberty!
      MAXimum Economy!
      MAXimum Canada!

      1. Trump was/is far more moderate than ted Cruz. Ditto scheer vs bernier.

        Would you have supported Cruz if he had run as an independent? His politics are far closer to yours than trump’s.

        Also Trump supported ethanol subsidies in exactly the same way scheer treats supply management.

    3. The never PPC-ers are the never Trumpers: both refuse to discard the failed policies of their party. Surprised to hear you don’t think slavish devotion of the CPC to the Liberal Party’s leftism and cultural Marxism is an immediate problem for Canada.

        1. Now that the Cons have embraced PET as a model PM, it is clear that voting CPC is voting Liberal.

          Once they are knocked further into minority – say, 2 seats in – a re-building effort can begin. That’s what it took last time.

  24. Andrew Scheer, after being elected, set about driving out or defeating in nominations, all the competent M.P.s , he was able to force out.

    He then set about replacing competency with mediocrity. Choosing, as it we, those made in his image.

    So if, he should become P.M., is there enough competency in caucus and cabinet to provide real political leadership, to even understand difficult issues and then to make principled decisions… ?

    Having enough heavy hitters, who can right the ship of state, steer her through storms and into calm seas and favourable winds. That requires an able crew, without which, the risk of capsizing continues.

  26. At the time of the leadership vote, I voted Max but was quite happy to accept the candidate who won. But the “winning” candidate was not prepared to accept th e vote; couldn’t accept that the party may, because of the result, have to accept Max and some conservative slant on the party.

    Scheer is a professional politician, a pandeerer. He puts his pension before principal.

  27. The voters outside looked from liberal to conservative, and from conservative to liberal, and from liberal to conservative again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

  28. Do you few ‘Scheercophants’ even hear yourselves?

    You are so obsessed with removing someone from power that you seem oblivious to the responsibility of voting someone in who is competent. And then one of you have the mega-hypocrisy to compare people who are considering supporting Max to never-Trumpers? Stunning, stunning hypocrisy.

    Over the past many months, I and others have listed many quality reasons for supporting Bernier and NOT supporting Scheer, so why don’t you give us just 5 quality reasons why we should vote for Scheer…. and don’t bother listing vote-splitting because it’s about the only reason we’ve ever heard and we’ve heard it about a thousand friggin’ times, already. What exactly are Andrew Scheer’s bonafides to save this nation currently floundering in a storm of progressivism, globalism, socialism, eco-tardism and social-justice based race-baiting? Hmm?

    Because JUST getting rid of that little shit Trudeau is nowhere near enough to stop the ideological carnage and destruction currently erasing this once great nation.

  29. Don’t sit it out, vote PPC so the so-called Conservatives know who beat them. Their immediate response will be of course to vituperate the PPC, but also to change their platform in important ways to re-captured their former voters who split for the PPC. Oh, and Andy Sche(m)er and his failed approach will be gone.

    1. I am an outspoken conservative in my BC community and have already paid my dues with lost friendships and confrontations with hate-filled leftards.

      Maybe you can get away with it in Calgary, but I will not advertise my vehicle as a target for vandalism here.

  31. maybe some one could drag the dairy queen in here to read how some of us don’t think he’s up to the job of governing as a conservative, or evn governing as anything else. The retard needs to understand his lack of qualification. Just not ready!!!!

  32. DHL, AHH!, all the rest; I will put it to you in simple terms that even glue sniffing brain dead morons might be able to understand.

    NOT.
    BEING.
    JUSTIN TRUDEAU.
    IS.
    NOT.
    ENOUGH.

    There has to be some policy difference. There has to be something else. There has to be principle (not principal). There has to be a willingness to fight for said principle. There has to be a willingness to shed blood for what you believe in. There has to be the possibility that a single thing would change.

    Scheer, Trudeau, a new government under either one will be indistinguishable from what he currently have. Neither will get pipelines built. Neither will change anything about immigration. Neither will stop grabbing guns. Neither will defend free speech. Neither will defend property rights.

  33. The CPC is actually running an ad that elevates Pierre Trudeau — that Justin is “not his father”.

    Jesus H Christ.

    1. I’m beginning to fear the idea of a Scheer victory. He could do more damage to the Conservative brand by being in office, apologizing to the CBC for not being quite as progressive as they want, compromising away any conservative policies and essentially being the reincarnation of Kim Campbell. At least in opposition Scheer could be blamed for losing and the party could replace him. The other issue is Scheer isn’t clever enough to be this stupid. There are spin doctors behind these disasters that couldn’t be worse if they were paid for by the Liberals.

    3. It’s actually very clever. I despise PET as much as anyone. But there is no denying his decisiveness – he was a leader.

      So the ad isn’t elevating him. In fact it’s driving home the point that those who voted for Justin thinking he was like his dad were wrong to do so.

      Running ads that both right and left can agree on regarding Justin. Could be very effective politically as this election is rapidly shaping up to be a referendum on Justin and the party that backs him.

    1. I momentarily forgot, there is also the choice of voting for three Soros toads, one being the current pm.

  35. Carter led to Reagan, Obama led to Trump, maybe another dose of Zoolander will lead to Max.

    Another Trudeau win will be a disaster, but even as stupid as he is a huge number of voters support him.
    Another four years of stupidity might teach them something. They are obviously slow learners.

    1. This confederation cannot survive four more years of LPC rule (even worse if they win a majority).

  36. I am still of the opinion that those of us who live in ridings where a liberal or NDP candidate will clearly win, should vote for Max. This, and notes to fund raisers and no-show and small donations for fund-raising events influence the CPC.

    Those of you in swing ridings have a more difficult choice. Personally, I would vote CPC. I can not tolerate any more international embarrassments and egregious ethical lapses, let alone more crappy bills.

    1. Makes sense to me. Vote strategically in your riding.

      In the riding where I live if the CPC put up the neighbour’s collie it would win.

  37. I’m not voting for someone who tucks his tail and cowers whenever he is given a chance to defend even the faintest of conservative ideals.

    If the PPC didn’t exist this election I would vote Elizabeth May before Scheer. At least she drinks and has balls.

    Luckily, the PPC does exist and I can vote PPC and have a clear conscience.

    1. Johnboy, vote Elizabeth May?

      I guess you plan to buy an electric vehicle if you don’t already have one.

  38. I cannot sit this one out, I never have and never will.
    Trudeau needs to be defeated.
    A vote for Max is a vote for Trudeau.
    I don’t trust Max either, I think he’s bought off (well he is from Quebec!)
    The timing of the PPC is just to convenient, I’m sure it’s a Liberal insurance policy concocted by Power Corp and other elites to protect the Liberals.
    The dismissing of Mansur’s was probably done with the view he may of cost the CPC Muslim votes. In order to capture the PMo you need centre voters so controversy has to be kept to a minimum.
    The morons supporting the PPC can say whatever they want because they will never be held to it.
    Anyway, the only vote to rid us of the entitled little tyrant is Scheer.
    Sitting out or voting for anyone else will just make it easier for that moron to continue the destruction of the country.

    1. Actually a vote for Scheer is a vote for Trudeau.

      Why call me a moron for supporting a conservative?

  39. “I don’t trust Max either, I think he’s bought off (well he is from Quebec!)”. Oh Yah, I’m sure the special interests are lining up to buy off a libertarian long shot who campaigns to end corporate welfare, not!

    If “Conservatives” think the “Muslim vote” is important to them, is there anything they won’t stoop to to get into power. A government is only as good as what they have to do to achieve power.

  40. The coming election is going to be a twofer.
    1) I get a genuine conservative candidate to vote for,first time in decades.
    2) I get to participate in the creation of a new country,where rule of law and private rights reign supreme.
    For most of Confederated Canada will vote United Parasites League, the so called “Established Political Parties”.
    Who have well established their loyalty to the Kleptocracy of Canada.
    Their self interest is the policy of the land.
    As for those stupid producers? Shut up and pay.

    Combined Confederation message to the West,
    “Screw you suckers,now really get ready to PAY”.

    Just as none of you “BUT you will split the vote” CPC promoters can make a positive case for supporting Scheer and company, no one seems able to make the case for Confederation.

    What benefit does being in Confederation bring Western Canadian Citizens?

  41. At this point, voting for the PPC is a protest vote against Scheer. They have no hope of winning but they might be able to prevent the “conservative” embarrassment of a minority Scheer government. The Greens appear poised to displace the NDP as third place party which, given that based on the zealotry of the greens within the NDP, is a moderation of green theocracy rather than a strengthening. In my riding, the PPC candidate is a believer in climate change and he thinks that teachers should be paid more according to his twitter strings, more evidence that Max is a leader without a party, more a collection of populist carpetbaggers. I might vote for the PPC if it appears that the incumbent NDP is ahead of the Conservative who, for this part of the Left Coast has a chance of success particularly if the Greens are peeling away NDP votes or, if Scheer continues to foul the Conservative brand.

    If voting for a populist carpetbagger as a protest vote against a castrated husk of a leader of the Conservatives is what Canadian politics has come to, hell, I may just vote Libertarian if there is one on the ballot.

  42. Don’t worry Bob. If you live in Western Canada your vote doesn’t matter anyhow. Unless feeling good about yourself matters.
    Remember Brian M won majorities with out needing any western seats.
    Manning too vetoed the biggest Reform riding vote. North Shore and Doug Collins. He was smarter than 1500 delegates!

  43. Know what? I don’t care who wins anymore. Even a PPC majority government would only postpone the inevitable. Canada as a county is a failure. Actually, Trudeau would be ideal as he’s the weakest opponent and least able to rally support against a Western UDI.

  44. You can’t seriously use the term ‘globalism’ and expect to be taken seriously. Salim Mansur’s place is in writing, Scheer was right to veto him right out. Now if Scheer would just focus on making a serious platform. As it is some of his policies are actually worse than Trudeau’s ex exempting home heating from GST.

    1. “You can’t seriously use the term ‘globalism’ and expect to be taken seriously. ”

      Seriously, you’re an idiot. Seriously you are. Seriously.

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