We Are All Treaty People

Who needs a pipeline, when money flows in rivers from Ottawa?

Members of southern Alberta’s Blood Tribe voted in favour of a multi-million-dollar settlement claim on Tuesday regarding a century-old dispute about cattle management.
 
They will be receiving $150 million from the federal government as compensation for losses the Blood Tribe suffered in the late 19th century and early 20th century.
 
Three-thousand-fifteen eligible voters cast their votes with 2,966 voting in favour of the deal and 49 against.

I’ll assume the 49 thought it wasn’t enough.

Update: Check the comments for more on the litigious history of this band.

50 Replies to “We Are All Treaty People”

  1. This is just one of many claims this reserve is working on: there is another ‘cattle’ one, a timber one and the ‘BIG’ one where they argue that that own the town of Cardston: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/blood-tribe-court-federal-land-dispute-claim-alberta-kainai-1.4934806

    Page 10 of this link has a summary of the current ongoing claims: http://bloodtribe.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/December2018.pdf

    A couple of years ago they won the ‘Akers’ claim also:
    http://bloodtribe.org/Administration/2416

    1. Just WAIT till some of TrueDope’s team of crackerjack economists calculate the reparations $$$$ OWED for all the Beaver Pelts taken, nay STOLEN by the French trappers!!

      This is where I remind you that my chosen Indian Guide name was … ‘Swims with Beaver’.

      1. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/high-price-of-buying-in-oil-friendly-indigenous-groups-are-disparaged-as-sellouts/ar-BBUL6k3?li=AAgh0dA
        The other side of the coin.
        “And the chief is comfortable with the environmental hazards of having a pipeline run through his community, saying he’s confident the risks can be mitigated. The way he sees it, Indigenous communities will likely become part of more energy projects, and that won’t please a lot of people. “I don’t know why people think First Nations are homogeneous and we should all agree on the same things all the time—that never happens at the House of Commons,” he says.”

    2. Timber lawsuite? What, the evil government cut down all tye trees on the prairies, making the traditional Indian way of life untenable, which is why they became nomadic stone tool hunter/gathers?

      1. This happened in the 90’s of the past century.

        If you drove the hwy 1 between Calgary and Banff you would see logging truck furiously at top speed carrying logs from Morley reservation to wherever. You could actually see the part where they were cutting the trees from the hwy.
        The proud tribe were making money without lifting a finger.
        Eventually the government shut it down.

        What happened after is something from the theatre of bizarre.
        The proud tribe sued the government of Canada for letting them cut down the damn trees.

        Fault here lays only half with the proud tribe, it is the bottom feeders that masturbated the proud tribe to sue and make a lot of money in the process.

        One wonders how much do the proud tribe clear after the bottom feeders take their cut.

  2. “A portion of the funds will also pay back loan funding used from the government for the years of research and legal fees.”
    Lawyers get the 125 Million that the Government provided the Blackfoot tribe in Suing themselves… Corruption….
    The Indians have requested forgiveness of those loans that paid for years of Indian research & legal fees… WOW

  3. In the original Treaty they were each given the equivalent in today’s terms of a fully equipped and stocked farm. How about giving the same to all young WHITE people who want to go farming. It was a very big settlement for back in that era. When Alberta goes Independent and uses the UDI all Indian claims will be extinguished permently . They will get exactly 1 vote per voting age Indian like everyone else. If that is not what they want they can vote with their feet and FO. If enough guilt and Bullshit just FO

  4. Of course it wasn’t enough. That’s less than $50,000 per voter! How can they to be expected to maintain a middle class lifestyle on such a pittance?

    1. Yup. New big screen TVs and 4-wheel-drive pickup trucks aren’t cheap.

  5. So they sat on their asses…let the Bureau of Indian Affairs do the work….then did nothing when the cattle starved to death

    ..and they get paid for it

    Where do I sign up?

  6. Well, things should be pretty exciting here in the Bridge in the next few months!

    1. Yeah, just imagine all the upcoming DUI’s.

      How are things in L A these days, Chris? I used to travel there monthly for many years for business. Do the Oilers fans still outnumber the Flames fans there?

      The video Kate put up earlier this AM on the semis blown over in Texas reminded me of those days. The overpass from Hwy 3 that leads to Vulcan was a prime spot for that. I particularly remember one trip back to Calgary where I passed by a semi on lying it’s side at that spot and the wind was so bad S. of Champion that the resulting dust storm even obscured my own hood at times. The first tumbleweed that hit me, I was sure I must have been sideswiped by someone. Scarier than any blizzard I ever drove through.

      1. Ha! Those Texan lightweights! That’s a typical day around here.
        Yes, still way more Oiler fans than Flames. Even though the standings aren’t much to cheer about.
        Bridge always just seems to truck along. No big booms, no big busts. Just slow and steady. Unlike the wind, which is fast and steady!

        1. Every time I go to the Bridge it is dead calm!!! Had a crazy wind at Taber though.

          1. I exaggerate of course. The geniuses that threw away millions of dollars on the giant bird killers realized that even in Southern Alberta, the wind doesn’t always blow!

  7. Maybe they should have been fighting for ISIS. That’s worth 10 M each to the Canadian Government. They should thank themselves lucky they’re not veterans. Wouldn’t have got anything for asking too much of their country.

  8. So, taxpayers that aren’t born yet but ultimately choose to work for a living will be responsible for “compensation” of people who are long dead but whose racially pure enough descendants whether or not have chosen to work for a living will happily receive on their behalf. Thanks to continuing apartheid and the legal “profession”, we can expect to see unlimited and unending liability until the racial purity of successive generations of “Indians” has been diluted beyond what, 1/64th, 1/132…….

    1. I had a Metis woman whining to me how she was discriminated against because she was Metis. Not in a million years would I have guessed she was Metis. Mind you I once asked an Indian if he wanted to shoot some out of season elk on my place because they were raising hell with the bales. His reply – I don’t know if we should be eating them because of BSE. He spent a lifetime in the oilpatch and could be picky. I once knew a red haired Metis who was pissed off because US border guards wouldn’t believe her Metis card on her way back to her job in the US. And then there’s Jody Wilson Raybould who showed up in Ottawa with an Irish chalk-white compexion with freckles looking like Howdy Doody. Once people noticed she seems to have discovered spray tan.

  9. They just sued the federal government for the weather and the government settled. Mind you they give $10 million to random Muslim terrorists.

    1. Spending by this government is out of control. Buying off people who claim to gave been wronged just breeds additional claims. Khadar’s ten million resulted in about seven others coming forward and quietly being paid similar amounts. No doubt we will at some point be paying the Blacks who came to Canada reparations for their unfortunate experiences. Does not matter that we were not responsible. We were not responsible for this cattle deal either, or the Khadar fiasco. Trudeau is slowly but surely destroying the country. I have lost hope.

      1. I concur. A country with this sort of shenanigans will not last long. best to prepare a backup plan or an escape route.

  10. Meanwhile Big Chief Justin is sending private bill collectors after senior citizens who built this country, because the government screwed up and overpaid them CPP.

  11. No worries. If we all work a little harder we can pay for that no problem.

    The government is always right. We must work harder.

    Sure be nice to say: ” Move to canada if you don’t like it in Alberta.”

  12. So are we going to have to play these tribe members grandkids and great grandchildren Compensation years from now for the damage this kind of settlement is going to cause them?

    End the Indian act. That’s the best thing we could ever do for them.

  13. No doubt, along with the 150 million dollars of our money there will be 3015 life time Liberal memberships dealt out. Just in time for the May election announcement to be made on Budget Day later this month,

  14. I’d worry about that money buying their votes if I thought they’d actually cast the votes at all.
    Those of them that do vote most likely vote Liberal anyway. Can’t buy them twice I suppose.

    1. Heh. Much like paying 600 mil to the already left-leaning media elite. Sweet tap dancing Jebus, we’ve established what the media are, now you’re just haggling over the price.

  15. “I’ll assume the 49 thought it wasn’t enough. ”

    Gee. That’s a pretty big band council, eh?

  16. Indians had no concept of animal husbandry. They acquired horses by the mid 18th century but they didnt know ‘straight up about a cow’ as the old punchers might say.

    The winter of 1906 was one of biblical proportion. Settlers/ranchers had not seen anything like it. Many ranchers in southern AB didnt winter feed in those days thinking that cattle could rustle through. In a mild year they could.

    The winter of ’06 changed all that. Cattle loses were 100% in many areas and I suspect the rez herd was wiped out, hence the 1905 cut off in the lawsuit.

    Wallace Steigner wrote a short fictionalized story about the winter of ’06 in his book Wolf Willow.

    The federal government did make promise to the tribes to provide cattle and did supply seed stock. The buffalo were gone and the Indians who were wards of the state were starving. The feds had responsibility.

    1. BFD, my family came to Alberta in 1905 and homesteaded a 1/2 section. Did any of you ever read those treaties? They were given, more less a complete farm set up seed, animals and the same equipment as farmers of the era. The only way it will ever be settled is by our grandchildren going to war with them. Wipe them all out. Same as the current Indians did to the tribes that were there before them that they wiped out. Have at er again only this time no deals, no prisoners.

      1. Watcher: That should have happen the first time round then we wouldn’t have had Indian Reserves. I read a piece of history about NFL Indians all killed or escaped to Labrador, now I understand they are coming back????? The Indians only would have gone south….as there were no boundary’s for Indians. They are nomadic, so claiming ONE piece of land is ludacris.

      2. Watcher

        I have read treaties. Not all of them of course but enough to know that great disparities existed.

        The natives signed treaties but for the most part could neither read nor write. They relied on the explanations of the very people who wrote them. You think there wern’t misunderstandings?

        As for giving natives ‘farms’ complete with seed horses and equipment, that did them no favors as they were not farmers. They had no tradition of growing crops. They didn’t have a clue.

        So where do we go from here? We made certain guarantees aka treaties. The natives are asking that the terms of the treaty be lived up to by our government that made them.

        We wouldn’t be in this position if our political leaders had lived up to their promises. We took the cowards way out and are now paying the price by having courts interpret what it was the wording intended 150 years ago.

        Talking about going to war and annihilation is nonsense. We made deals and now we’re called upon to honour them. That’s what you do in a modern first world country.

    2. “The federal government did make promise to the tribes to provide cattle and did supply seed stock. The buffalo were gone and the Indians who were wards of the state were starving. The feds had responsibility.”

      In 1844, the trading posts of the Hudson Bay Company in Canada took 75,000 bison robes in trade. Between 1871 and 1874, an estimated 1.4 million hides were shipped east by the railroads (Topeka, Santa Fe, Kansas Pacific, & Union Pacific). Most of the hides were from cow bison, as they were worth more than bull hides, and for each hide that was traded or sold, it’s estimated that 3 animals were killed. In 1873, a buffalo hide sold for $1.25 and a buffalo tongue sold for 25 cents. The rest of the animal had no value and was left to rot. A railway engineer of the Santa Fe railroad observed that along one stretch of railroad right-of-way, one could step from one bison carcass to another for 100 miles without touching the ground. Bison herds west of the Rocky Mountains, (which were never large to begin with) disappeared. Bones from the carcasses left by buffalo hunters were later collected and sold to make fertilizer, fine bone china, and to refine sugar. Bison bones brought anywhere from $2.50 to $15.00 a ton. Between 1868 and 1881, in Kansas alone, $2.5 million dollars worth of bones were sold. Based on an average price of $8/ton, and assuming it takes 100 skeletons to make a ton of bones, this represents the remains of more than 31 million bison.

      By 1884, only 325 bison could be found in the United States.

    1. Rita: Thanks for posting. I have read the article before and yes that is what Lead Now is about to land lock Alberta and stop the flow of oil by many that are in Lie-bral gov’t I do believe their are 40 main players with 2 in every dept. So we Canadian’s have to vote them out in 2019. VOTE OUT THE LIE-BRALS IN 2019! VOTE OUT TRUDEAU IN 2019! I heard by the grape vine it could be as early as May be prepared. VOTE OUT THE LEI-BRALS!!!

    2. Thank you. I passed this on to many contacts. Most people do not read the Financial Post or know who Vivian Krause is or the great work she has done.

  17. If you Read the Court Decision… The need for Social Justice was paramount… Sick Justice by legal fraudulent Whores…
    Canada is on a slick slope of crap….Wake the fU** up

  18. “I’ll assume the 49 thought it wasn’t enough.”
    =====
    Wow.
    Nobody can accuse Kate of pulling her punches 🙂

  19. ” I find his decision not to do so unreasonable because of the deficiency in the intelligibility and rationality of his decision and reasons, exacerbated by his failure throughout to consider the opportunity for his decision to promote the process of reconciliation between the Crown and the Band, as the law requires. ” Judicial babble used to feed the Lawyers

    To promote the process of Reconciliation trumps the rule of LAW…..Corrupt to the core

  20. The Blood Indians have oil & gas on their land and judging by the financial news should never be short of cash.
    They were going to sue Notley because the provincial cut-backs in production were hurting their royalties.

  21. If we’re all treaty people then, where’s my share of the 150 mill…….ooops I forgot as a white treaty person by part in the treaty is to pay…pay…pay….pay….untill I have nothing left. The federal government must also be treaty people because I seem to be constantly paying them as well.

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