28 Replies to “Remembering the Greatest Generation”
Ah yes… that’s right. On this day in 1941, people were heard to say there’s a little nip in the air
Were they really the greatest generation? It is their progeny that has basically spent the last 70 or 80 years screwing civilization and the world. It would have been the greatest generation that were all the professors who started the slide to what we call education today; that told the weather underground that they were right…
Thank the Frankfurt School for that.
I intend to watch the video later.
Yea….well for many of us born between 1950 and 1960, we had very little say in what happened…particularly the push to allow public servants the right to organize and unionize.
THAT in my opinion, being the absolute root cause of all the Marxist-Communist Leftist Filth we are surrounded with today…every (expletive deleted) bit of it.
De-Certification of those UNIONS is a goal we should ALL Stand behind, for that leftist thinking has infested each & every department of each and every “democratic” government on EARTH.
My mother’s first husband was killed when his ship was torpedoed in 1942. Her second husband, my father, fought from Normandy to Zwickau.
As a progeny (sic), I was raised in situational poverty on the farm, did 18 months in Viet-Nam (side trip to Cambodia), and worked the night shift (double shifts on weekends) through university. I worked from the age of four, when I could toddle out to the chicken yard to collect the eggs, and at 70 I am still working, paying taxes to support your whining, stereotyping self.
What’s your story, princess?
I like that … situational … poverty. I’ve known that myself. I pray you can finally STOP toiling for the leftist government and reap your reward for a life well-lived. Unless you enjoy your work, of course.
But, don’t you realize you benefited from all your WHITE PRIVILEGE ?
/sarc
I believe they missed a chance to call the millenials The Weakest Generation
situational poverty.
bulls eye sir.
jeezuz murphy, we lived in the sticks and I didnt even *know* how poor we were.
grew up in an uninsulated wood frame bldg that had no central heat.
that’s why, *to this day* I have a very high tolerance for cold.
and can make a glutton of myself chomping down all those ribs and roasts and burgers, and gain NOTHING.
my metabolism evolved to burn it all off in body heat.
see how adversity is only temporary but the lessons and benefits last all our days?
it’s called white privilege for the uninitiated.
What did the President know and when did he know it?
How U.S. Economic Warfare Provoked Japan’s Attack on Pearl Harbor
the U.S. government engaged in a series of increasingly stringent economic warfare measures that pushed the Japanese into a predicament that U.S. authorities well understood would probably provoke them to attack U.S. territories and forces in the Pacific region in a quest to secure essential raw materials that the Americans, British, and Dutch (government in exile) had embargoed.2
The claim that Japan attacked the United States without provocation was . . . typical rhetoric. It worked because the public did not know that the administration had expected Japan to respond with war to anti-Japanese measures it had taken in July 1941. . . . Expecting to lose a war with the United States—and lose it disastrously—Japan’s leaders had tried with growing desperation to negotiate. On this point, most historians have long agreed. Meanwhile, evidence has come out that Roosevelt and Hull persistently refused to negotiate. . . . Japan . . . offered compromises and concessions, which the United States countered with increasing demands. . . . It was after learning of Japan’s decision to go to war with the United States if the talks “break down” that Roosevelt decided to break them off. . . . According to Attorney General Francis Biddle, Roosevelt said he hoped for an “incident” in the Pacific to bring the United States into the European war.
So … Imperialist Japan (every bit as atrocious as Nazi Germany) should have been left alone to expand their Empire? What sort of nonsense is this? Ask the Chinese, Philippines, and every other SE Asian country what they thought about the Japanese EMPIRE. And BTW … my WWII Veteran father informed me from the age of 5yo that FDR KNEW ahead of time that Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor. But that’s just how leftists roll … break a few friendly eggs to make an omelet. Collateral damage in rush to go to WAR.
“So … Imperialist Japan (every bit as atrocious as Nazi Germany) should have been left alone to expand their Empire? What sort of nonsense is this?”
Whatever Japan had, the Communists did not have. Letting Communists take over former Japanese colonies led to the worst human rights abuses in human history — Great Leap Backward, Cultural Revolution, Cambodian Killing Fields, Vietnamese Boat people, North Korean famine etc.
It’s not nonsense — it’s realpolitik.
“Ask the Chinese, Philippines, and every other SE Asian country what they thought about the Japanese EMPIRE.”
Go ask them what they think about the mother of all tyrannies — Communism.
*precisely* kenji.
they were going to do it all ANYWAY. excuses come in handy when itching for war. ask hideki ‘toejam’ tojo
Paul Tibbets lived to a wonderful old age with an absolutely pristine conscience knowing full well and confirmed countless times including japanese later, the 10s of 1000s of instant deaths his mission caused saved multiple MILLIONS on BOTH sides.
japan was itching for a fight. they had no thought of negotiating trade deals or wtfever to obtain the all important resources.
they wanted to STEAL it all and enslave and commit mass murder which they promptly DID SO starting january 1942.
alas, along comes the big oopise aka midway island encounter.
aye the best laid schemes o’ mice and men . . . . .
alas, along comes the big oopise aka midway island encounter
Actually, it started even earlier with the Doolittle raid. The B-25s scared the dickens out of the Japanese high command because they didn’t expect that the Americans would strike back, even though they didn’t do much damage, and do it so quickly after the attack on Pearl Harbour.
That prompted the move to engage the Americans at Midway. If nothing else, the plan was to take out the three remaining aircraft carriers in the Pacific, Enterprise, Saratoga, and Lexington.
After that, Japan was in retreat.
Actually, I got ahead of myself.
Enterprise, Saratoga, and Lexington were at sea 76 years ago. (The other carriers in the USN were deployed elsewhere.) The fact that those ships weren’t in port when the attack on Pearl Harbour took place would cost the Imperial Japanese Navy dearly a few months later.
Hornet was the one that was used in the Doolittle raid but it, along with Enterprise and Yorktown participated in the Battle of Midway.
Greatest generation by far the sacrifice these young people made will never be equaled.
One of my favourite Internet memes consists of two pictures. One is a famous photo of an American landing craft approaching a Normandy beach. The other is of two modern-day soyboys.
The first photo has a caption that goes something like: “In 1944, 18 year old men were jumping out of airplanes and storming beaches, going into certain danger.”
The second photo’s caption is like: “In 2015, 18 year old men need safe spaces because words can hurt.”
Even the civilians made sacrifices. My father, for example, would go scrounging for food after a bombing raid to help feed his siblings and parents. That stuck with him for the rest of his life as he made sure that my mother and I were well-provided for.
If you are glad Hitler and his Socialists were destroyed thank a Russian. The US and all the Allies combined lost less than 1 million men. The Russkies broke Hitlers back at a cost of 20 million men. The real unsung hero’s of the WW2. The useless incompetent Brits would have all been speaking German if not for Canada and later the USA.
Stalin was Hitler’s ally for the first two years of the war.
From 1939 until 7 December 1941 the English were alone against the Fascists. They would never have surrendered. As one Brit said to the Nazis, “Don’t dictate to us until you’re marching down Whitehall. And even then we won’t listen.”
Given that some of my family and their friends were fighting in RCAF and RCN, and on merchant marine convoys in both 1940 and 1941 I’ll take exception to “the English were standing alone”. I know what you mean, but since Canada had proportionally more war war 2 deaths than the US did I just wanted to remind people.
I’ll be honest and say I have mixed feelings about Russia in WW2. You are right that Stalin was Hitler’s ally. The Soviets invaded Poland along with Hitler and the Soviets slaughtered thousands of Poles, When you read about Stalin’s killings in Ukraine, his purges of Russian military and society and so on, you realized the left in Russia was unspeakably evil. I do feel bad that millions were killed in the name of Hitler and Stalin. And then along came another leftist, Mao, who’s killing sprees made Hitler and Stalin look like boy scouts
And America lost 650k men in the Civil War. Which is why we don’t fight wars by marching men in straight lines to their deaths any longer. We learned all we needed to know about warfare from the lessons of the Civil War and WWI … sadly … Communists see human life as CHEAP. As a means to an end … nothing more.
In my opinion, if the Allies were not fighting the Germans, Hitler would have defeated Russia.
The Allies (not Russia) bombed Germany from the air, and fought Germans on the sea. Do not under-estimate the effort required to fight the naval and air wars. Do not underestimate the effect of the bombing on Germany and it’s war making potential.
For example: Germany built something like 26,000 88mm and larger anti-aircraft/anti-tank guns. The vast majority were used in anti-aircraft defense. Imagine if the Allies had not bombed Germany. Many of these guns could have been used as anti-tank guns or put in additional tanks. For the record, the Germans put only 1800 88mm guns in tanks (Tiger I, Tiger II and jagdpanther). Also imagine if the German fighters were attacking the Russian air force and Russian tanks instead of fighting allied bombers!
When the United States entered the war, its vast industrial capacity ensured the outcome. Just look at the number of ships, airplanes, tanks, trucks, etc that the US produced compared to everyone else.
correctamundo.
just saw a blerb about the superguns hitler developed which sent a shell some 80 friggin MILES, ie british cities once again.
and the allied mission to utilize a brand new ‘earthquake bomb’ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_bomb
jeezuz murphy. talk about ‘silencing’ the opposition.
regarding russia’s involvement, WW II was sadly very necessary in order to expend all that war making capability and potential
stalin had. and to put sufficient allied personnel in europe until things normalized and just a matter of time soviet communism has its big fail in 1989.
there was a LOT of communism in europe in the 20th century:
communist victories in 1930 german elections
ussr of course
communist led civil war in greece right after
more recently:
communist double agents waaaaay high up in british spy circles: philby, burgess et al
fwance commie riots 1968 ‘danny the red’
eye-tie communist politishuns 70s 80s whatever
LOTS of communist sympathies in the old world which needed a good pasting to keep it in check.
CBC likes to trumpet the fact that the Russians won the war. Their favourite revisionist historians, the McKenna brothers said that according to Russian generals they needed a six to one advantage in the attack in order to be victorious against the Wehrmacht. We often beat the Germans in offensive encounters where there was zero manpower advantage. Things the Russians had little or nothing to do with in World War Two. The war against the Japanese, the Battle of the Atlantic, the bombing campaign against Germany and fighting in Italy, Africa and Western Europe.
Today is the 77th anniversary of the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Unbelievably, there has been NO mention of it anywhere, that I have found, in the media. Nothing. Little wonder today’s younger generation has no idea what their forebears sacrificed so that they can carry on in ignorance.
So what did you do about it? Complain?
we won the war and have spent the last 73 years giving away our freedom and our country.
Ah yes… that’s right. On this day in 1941, people were heard to say there’s a little nip in the air
Were they really the greatest generation? It is their progeny that has basically spent the last 70 or 80 years screwing civilization and the world. It would have been the greatest generation that were all the professors who started the slide to what we call education today; that told the weather underground that they were right…
Thank the Frankfurt School for that.
I intend to watch the video later.
Yea….well for many of us born between 1950 and 1960, we had very little say in what happened…particularly the push to allow public servants the right to organize and unionize.
THAT in my opinion, being the absolute root cause of all the Marxist-Communist Leftist Filth we are surrounded with today…every (expletive deleted) bit of it.
De-Certification of those UNIONS is a goal we should ALL Stand behind, for that leftist thinking has infested each & every department of each and every “democratic” government on EARTH.
My mother’s first husband was killed when his ship was torpedoed in 1942. Her second husband, my father, fought from Normandy to Zwickau.
As a progeny (sic), I was raised in situational poverty on the farm, did 18 months in Viet-Nam (side trip to Cambodia), and worked the night shift (double shifts on weekends) through university. I worked from the age of four, when I could toddle out to the chicken yard to collect the eggs, and at 70 I am still working, paying taxes to support your whining, stereotyping self.
What’s your story, princess?
I like that … situational … poverty. I’ve known that myself. I pray you can finally STOP toiling for the leftist government and reap your reward for a life well-lived. Unless you enjoy your work, of course.
But, don’t you realize you benefited from all your WHITE PRIVILEGE ?
/sarc
I believe they missed a chance to call the millenials The Weakest Generation
situational poverty.
bulls eye sir.
jeezuz murphy, we lived in the sticks and I didnt even *know* how poor we were.
grew up in an uninsulated wood frame bldg that had no central heat.
that’s why, *to this day* I have a very high tolerance for cold.
and can make a glutton of myself chomping down all those ribs and roasts and burgers, and gain NOTHING.
my metabolism evolved to burn it all off in body heat.
see how adversity is only temporary but the lessons and benefits last all our days?
it’s called white privilege for the uninitiated.
What did the President know and when did he know it?
How U.S. Economic Warfare Provoked Japan’s Attack on Pearl Harbor
the U.S. government engaged in a series of increasingly stringent economic warfare measures that pushed the Japanese into a predicament that U.S. authorities well understood would probably provoke them to attack U.S. territories and forces in the Pacific region in a quest to secure essential raw materials that the Americans, British, and Dutch (government in exile) had embargoed.2
The claim that Japan attacked the United States without provocation was . . . typical rhetoric. It worked because the public did not know that the administration had expected Japan to respond with war to anti-Japanese measures it had taken in July 1941. . . . Expecting to lose a war with the United States—and lose it disastrously—Japan’s leaders had tried with growing desperation to negotiate. On this point, most historians have long agreed. Meanwhile, evidence has come out that Roosevelt and Hull persistently refused to negotiate. . . . Japan . . . offered compromises and concessions, which the United States countered with increasing demands. . . . It was after learning of Japan’s decision to go to war with the United States if the talks “break down” that Roosevelt decided to break them off. . . . According to Attorney General Francis Biddle, Roosevelt said he hoped for an “incident” in the Pacific to bring the United States into the European war.
https://mises.org/library/how-us-economic-warfare-provoked-japans-attack-pearl-harbor
So … Imperialist Japan (every bit as atrocious as Nazi Germany) should have been left alone to expand their Empire? What sort of nonsense is this? Ask the Chinese, Philippines, and every other SE Asian country what they thought about the Japanese EMPIRE. And BTW … my WWII Veteran father informed me from the age of 5yo that FDR KNEW ahead of time that Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor. But that’s just how leftists roll … break a few friendly eggs to make an omelet. Collateral damage in rush to go to WAR.
“So … Imperialist Japan (every bit as atrocious as Nazi Germany) should have been left alone to expand their Empire? What sort of nonsense is this?”
Whatever Japan had, the Communists did not have. Letting Communists take over former Japanese colonies led to the worst human rights abuses in human history — Great Leap Backward, Cultural Revolution, Cambodian Killing Fields, Vietnamese Boat people, North Korean famine etc.
It’s not nonsense — it’s realpolitik.
“Ask the Chinese, Philippines, and every other SE Asian country what they thought about the Japanese EMPIRE.”
Go ask them what they think about the mother of all tyrannies — Communism.
*precisely* kenji.
they were going to do it all ANYWAY. excuses come in handy when itching for war. ask hideki ‘toejam’ tojo
Paul Tibbets lived to a wonderful old age with an absolutely pristine conscience knowing full well and confirmed countless times including japanese later, the 10s of 1000s of instant deaths his mission caused saved multiple MILLIONS on BOTH sides.
japan was itching for a fight. they had no thought of negotiating trade deals or wtfever to obtain the all important resources.
they wanted to STEAL it all and enslave and commit mass murder which they promptly DID SO starting january 1942.
alas, along comes the big oopise aka midway island encounter.
aye the best laid schemes o’ mice and men . . . . .
alas, along comes the big oopise aka midway island encounter
Actually, it started even earlier with the Doolittle raid. The B-25s scared the dickens out of the Japanese high command because they didn’t expect that the Americans would strike back, even though they didn’t do much damage, and do it so quickly after the attack on Pearl Harbour.
That prompted the move to engage the Americans at Midway. If nothing else, the plan was to take out the three remaining aircraft carriers in the Pacific, Enterprise, Saratoga, and Lexington.
After that, Japan was in retreat.
Actually, I got ahead of myself.
Enterprise, Saratoga, and Lexington were at sea 76 years ago. (The other carriers in the USN were deployed elsewhere.) The fact that those ships weren’t in port when the attack on Pearl Harbour took place would cost the Imperial Japanese Navy dearly a few months later.
Hornet was the one that was used in the Doolittle raid but it, along with Enterprise and Yorktown participated in the Battle of Midway.
Greatest generation by far the sacrifice these young people made will never be equaled.
One of my favourite Internet memes consists of two pictures. One is a famous photo of an American landing craft approaching a Normandy beach. The other is of two modern-day soyboys.
The first photo has a caption that goes something like: “In 1944, 18 year old men were jumping out of airplanes and storming beaches, going into certain danger.”
The second photo’s caption is like: “In 2015, 18 year old men need safe spaces because words can hurt.”
Even the civilians made sacrifices. My father, for example, would go scrounging for food after a bombing raid to help feed his siblings and parents. That stuck with him for the rest of his life as he made sure that my mother and I were well-provided for.
If you are glad Hitler and his Socialists were destroyed thank a Russian. The US and all the Allies combined lost less than 1 million men. The Russkies broke Hitlers back at a cost of 20 million men. The real unsung hero’s of the WW2. The useless incompetent Brits would have all been speaking German if not for Canada and later the USA.
Stalin was Hitler’s ally for the first two years of the war.
From 1939 until 7 December 1941 the English were alone against the Fascists. They would never have surrendered. As one Brit said to the Nazis, “Don’t dictate to us until you’re marching down Whitehall. And even then we won’t listen.”
Given that some of my family and their friends were fighting in RCAF and RCN, and on merchant marine convoys in both 1940 and 1941 I’ll take exception to “the English were standing alone”. I know what you mean, but since Canada had proportionally more war war 2 deaths than the US did I just wanted to remind people.
I’ll be honest and say I have mixed feelings about Russia in WW2. You are right that Stalin was Hitler’s ally. The Soviets invaded Poland along with Hitler and the Soviets slaughtered thousands of Poles, When you read about Stalin’s killings in Ukraine, his purges of Russian military and society and so on, you realized the left in Russia was unspeakably evil. I do feel bad that millions were killed in the name of Hitler and Stalin. And then along came another leftist, Mao, who’s killing sprees made Hitler and Stalin look like boy scouts
And America lost 650k men in the Civil War. Which is why we don’t fight wars by marching men in straight lines to their deaths any longer. We learned all we needed to know about warfare from the lessons of the Civil War and WWI … sadly … Communists see human life as CHEAP. As a means to an end … nothing more.
In my opinion, if the Allies were not fighting the Germans, Hitler would have defeated Russia.
The Allies (not Russia) bombed Germany from the air, and fought Germans on the sea. Do not under-estimate the effort required to fight the naval and air wars. Do not underestimate the effect of the bombing on Germany and it’s war making potential.
For example: Germany built something like 26,000 88mm and larger anti-aircraft/anti-tank guns. The vast majority were used in anti-aircraft defense. Imagine if the Allies had not bombed Germany. Many of these guns could have been used as anti-tank guns or put in additional tanks. For the record, the Germans put only 1800 88mm guns in tanks (Tiger I, Tiger II and jagdpanther). Also imagine if the German fighters were attacking the Russian air force and Russian tanks instead of fighting allied bombers!
When the United States entered the war, its vast industrial capacity ensured the outcome. Just look at the number of ships, airplanes, tanks, trucks, etc that the US produced compared to everyone else.
correctamundo.
just saw a blerb about the superguns hitler developed which sent a shell some 80 friggin MILES, ie british cities once again.
and the allied mission to utilize a brand new ‘earthquake bomb’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_bomb
jeezuz murphy. talk about ‘silencing’ the opposition.
regarding russia’s involvement, WW II was sadly very necessary in order to expend all that war making capability and potential
stalin had. and to put sufficient allied personnel in europe until things normalized and just a matter of time soviet communism has its big fail in 1989.
there was a LOT of communism in europe in the 20th century:
communist victories in 1930 german elections
ussr of course
communist led civil war in greece right after
more recently:
communist double agents waaaaay high up in british spy circles: philby, burgess et al
fwance commie riots 1968 ‘danny the red’
eye-tie communist politishuns 70s 80s whatever
LOTS of communist sympathies in the old world which needed a good pasting to keep it in check.
CBC likes to trumpet the fact that the Russians won the war. Their favourite revisionist historians, the McKenna brothers said that according to Russian generals they needed a six to one advantage in the attack in order to be victorious against the Wehrmacht. We often beat the Germans in offensive encounters where there was zero manpower advantage. Things the Russians had little or nothing to do with in World War Two. The war against the Japanese, the Battle of the Atlantic, the bombing campaign against Germany and fighting in Italy, Africa and Western Europe.
There is a Canadian charity involved in a similar project:
https://www.historicacanada.ca/thememoryproject
Today is the 77th anniversary of the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Unbelievably, there has been NO mention of it anywhere, that I have found, in the media. Nothing. Little wonder today’s younger generation has no idea what their forebears sacrificed so that they can carry on in ignorance.
So what did you do about it? Complain?
we won the war and have spent the last 73 years giving away our freedom and our country.