The BIG problem is of course, that CSA is a fiefdom. A big, unaccountable, closed-door fiefdom with access via Treasury Board and the Ottawa bureaucracy, to all the money they want. They don’t care about being assessed owing costs – they’ll just appeal again, and again, and again until they get a favourable Ruling, and they’ll never pay costs because “they’re considering further appeals” – and if they ever find themselves up against a wall and HAVE to pay the costs, well, it isn’t their money anyways, and they can always get more.
I lay this one at the door of the bureaucracy; and like the mandarins in dynastic China, they last forever no matter who’s in power, and take care of their own. And EVERYTHING they do is precisely correct – just ask them – and the fault ALWAYS lies with the outsider. Their jobs, golden parachutes and civil service pensions depend on it remaining that way.
Good on you, PS Knight, but I really don’t think it’ll make a difference. Or rather, I really don’t think it’ll make a difference, but good on you, PS Knight!
I fully expect CSA to appeal in all cases (or twice in all cases, as it appears in the final paragraph at the link) until this arrives at the SCOC. In which case, all bets are off, because remember the “interprovincial beer ruling” and that part of the constitution of Canada that outlines interprovincial free passage of goods. Well that didn’t work out so well did it.
*Of course I have a copy of Knight’s Canadian Electrical Code 2018-2021.
Hopefully someday, they’ll publish a natural gas – propane, and plumbing code as well…. sayin’
Thank you again Kate; The active reach out by SDA over the decade(s) is and was a significant factor in starting the “righting” of the Ship-Of-State.
An example of ensuring each and every appointment, especially in the critique and processing of “Law of the Land” must be made separate from the Political Arena; certainly not to be used for Cadre Sinecure.
Seems like an Ecksian purge of the CSA is in order.
Stats Canada will soon be playing the same game (unfortunately).
I knew it. as soon as I saw the post title ‘regulator’ it had to be the goddamn csa.
re: ” . . . with costs payable to the Respondents”, how long is THAT going to take?
and if it wasnt for Kate and this blog, I would know nothing of this repugnant situation.
As someone who uses CSA Codes on a regular basis, albeit not the electrical one, I would never have known of this either…. Good on you Kate..!!
An Industry dreamed up out of thin air …. pretty good gig if your the first inline no.?
Seems to me this is nothing but LAWFARE… Wearing out PS Knight by attempting to bankrupt them.
I fervently hope that wont happen.
Go publish the boiler and pressure vessel code while you are at it.
Sweet
I am going to guess the csa is never giving up.
The BIG problem is of course, that CSA is a fiefdom. A big, unaccountable, closed-door fiefdom with access via Treasury Board and the Ottawa bureaucracy, to all the money they want. They don’t care about being assessed owing costs – they’ll just appeal again, and again, and again until they get a favourable Ruling, and they’ll never pay costs because “they’re considering further appeals” – and if they ever find themselves up against a wall and HAVE to pay the costs, well, it isn’t their money anyways, and they can always get more.
I lay this one at the door of the bureaucracy; and like the mandarins in dynastic China, they last forever no matter who’s in power, and take care of their own. And EVERYTHING they do is precisely correct – just ask them – and the fault ALWAYS lies with the outsider. Their jobs, golden parachutes and civil service pensions depend on it remaining that way.
Good on you, PS Knight, but I really don’t think it’ll make a difference. Or rather, I really don’t think it’ll make a difference, but good on you, PS Knight!
I fully expect CSA to appeal in all cases (or twice in all cases, as it appears in the final paragraph at the link) until this arrives at the SCOC. In which case, all bets are off, because remember the “interprovincial beer ruling” and that part of the constitution of Canada that outlines interprovincial free passage of goods. Well that didn’t work out so well did it.
*Of course I have a copy of Knight’s Canadian Electrical Code 2018-2021.
Hopefully someday, they’ll publish a natural gas – propane, and plumbing code as well…. sayin’
Thank you again Kate; The active reach out by SDA over the decade(s) is and was a significant factor in starting the “righting” of the Ship-Of-State.
An example of ensuring each and every appointment, especially in the critique and processing of “Law of the Land” must be made separate from the Political Arena; certainly not to be used for Cadre Sinecure.
Seems like an Ecksian purge of the CSA is in order.
Stats Canada will soon be playing the same game (unfortunately).
I knew it. as soon as I saw the post title ‘regulator’ it had to be the goddamn csa.
re: ” . . . with costs payable to the Respondents”, how long is THAT going to take?
and if it wasnt for Kate and this blog, I would know nothing of this repugnant situation.
As someone who uses CSA Codes on a regular basis, albeit not the electrical one, I would never have known of this either…. Good on you Kate..!!
An Industry dreamed up out of thin air …. pretty good gig if your the first inline no.?
Seems to me this is nothing but LAWFARE… Wearing out PS Knight by attempting to bankrupt them.
I fervently hope that wont happen.
Go publish the boiler and pressure vessel code while you are at it.