When Ryan Boyko was in high school, he saw a documentary about the Ukrainian Canadian Internment during the First World War. Boyko, a descendant of Ukrainians, was curious to find out more so he asked his teacher.
“And he said, ‘you mean the Japanese internment during the Second World War? And I said, ‘no, I mean the Ukrainian internment during the First World War,’ ” Boyko says. “He said, ‘that never happened.’ ”
But I thought Ukrainians were white, so white privelege?
My German relatives were simply required to periodically report and some of them hid their guns instead of turning them in. The Ukrainians that were interned likely broke some rule they may not have been aware of, like not turning in their guns or trying to travel to the US. They had poor recognition of the fact that Canada viewed them as enemy while the Germans were painfully aware of the fact. Internment of Ukrainians (WW I) and Japanese (WW II) was an attempt to save Canadian lives. People second guessing historical motives are idiots. Only an idiot would assume that 100% of Japanese immigrants to Canada were traitors to their own country.
“People second guessing historical motives are idiots.”
Yeah? Explain Mao Tse Tung.
Wow. That’s really something. They covered it up, and it vanished until now. Unbelievable. I never heard a whisper of this before this post. Not a whisper.
What the hell are they doing and covering up for today? Should we keep trusting the same system that produced not just one mass-internment but two? Should we wait for the -inevitable- mass-internment of Mooselimbs before cutting the government down to a more reasonable size? Get them small enough that they can’t do it, even if they want to.
And before some pinhead troll says “that could never happen in Multicultural Paradise Canada, all socialistic and racial justicey,” Ukrainians are -white- people. You can’t tell a Ukrainian from a Scotsman by looking at them. So much easier to arrest and intern everybody in the country with a decent tan, and that is exactly what they’ll do. The second it is politically advantageous, they will do it. You can tell, because that’s what they’re doing with guns right now.
That’s what the word “totalitarian” means, you Lefty morons. Who’s a Nazi now?
My Great Grandfather was interned. Double whammy as he was both Ukrainian from Austria-Hungary and had served in the military. During his internment he lost all his children but one (probably to flu), my grandmother.
So what. A bunch of bad people did bad things over 100 years ago. All of them are dead and it has no relevance whatsoever to today.
That is why I hate all these moaners so much. “Everyone has a sob story”.
riffer, well said. I agree with your sentiment. My father spent time in a C camp, should I now hate all Krauts:-)))
Thinking just give leftist revisionists headaches. It’s better to deny and lie when inconvenient or alternate facts arise.
When that doesn’t work, move on to insults. When that doesn’t work, move on to violence.
When that doesn’t work ………?
You know what? To hell with that guy. It’s called war.
Do you know what makes me physically ill? That “Ukrainian” Jew-killers died rich and happy in western Canada and that the granddaughter of one of them passes as our foreign minister. It is an outrage against all that is good and decent that Michael Chomiak survived the war and that Chrystia Freeland was ever born.
A few thousand ignorant Little Russian peasants got free room and board for a few years courtesy of the Queen of Canada. Even money says the same swine were toasting the extermination of the old country’s Jews a generation later by guzzling the best vodka they could afford till they fell over and choked on their own vomit. Proof there is no justice in this world.
“courtesy of the Queen of Canada”
You meant to say the King of Canada. There is a line of thinking concerning Jews and Communists, and the death of 12 million Ukrainians that need not be repeated here. Whether the stories are true, the sentiment was real. Ukrainians and Germans were allies of necessity. The Russians just finished killing 1/3 of them.
I did mean the King of Canada. I wrote that in a hurry. I stand corrected.
I don’t know, Queen seems appropriate.
Further to your comment, ‘A Canadian’, being interned may well have saved their lives! OK; it obviously wasn’t a picnic in the camps but they weren’t being gassed, mowed down by machine guns, or drowning in the mud of Europe.
I’m guessing a lot of Canadian kids fighting in the trenches would gladly have traded places.
“A few thousand ignorant Little Russian …”
Hate to break it to you, but Ukrainians are not Little Siberian Mongols.
Oh goody – something else to feel guilty about. My wife’s family came to Canada before WWI as Ukrainians on Austro-Hungarian passports. They weren’t interned, in fact one uncle (who had deserted from the Austro-Hungarian army) joined the Canadian army only to be discharged after a training injury. We don’t need another tearful apology from Trudeau.
“one uncle (who had deserted from the Austro-Hungarian army) joined the Canadian army”
Check his WWI file. A lot of Austrian Galicians claimed Russian birth to join the army.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/search.aspx
He didn’t get to WWI in uniform, he was invalided out in the summer of 1914, so no WWI record. BTW, he joined the army to learn the English he wasn’t hearing on North Main in Winnipeg.
WWI was one of the most ambiguous and from a historical perspective, meaningless slaughter of humanity under the definition of wars. That certain ethnic people were interned while others less discriminated against were sent overseas to become machine gun fodder or trench inhabiting disease bait evokes no feelings of guilt for me but only the reaffirmation that wars are the ultimate horror in human existence, and sometimes necessary for the existence and “health” of the state.
I wonder if Turdeau will cry before the cameras when he apologizes for this one.
There is a plaque in Fort Henry in Kingston to commemorate the internment,
So, let me get this straight.
Canadian government.
Japanese Internment
Ukrainian Internment
Residential schools
forced sterilization by Tommy Douglas
So this is the government that NPCs want to give all power over everyone and everything to?
“So this is the government that NPCs want to give all power over everyone and everything to?”
Yeah. Pretty much says it all, Kevin.
I think that NPC meme is about the most solid representation of Leftists to come along in ages. They’re not even idiots, just computer generated scenery that talks.
The real story is not of internment. Not of false imprisonment, but of a government that tried to hide it’s past. Canada’s system of government is one that can be abused and used by whatever power holds the reins. There are few checks and balances with little to no oversight from other sources. Whatever party holds the house controls everything, so when they feel the need arises to change history and expunge one part or another from within it’s confines they are free to do so. This is not an issue that resides on one side of the aisle or another, they both want the game to continue the way it always has. The eventual end to this scenario is one of oppression, poverty, enslavement, and death. Maybe not in 10 years of even 50, but the fate is already in progress.
We need an elected senate that re-balances the country. We need a senate that actually has powers to regulate and remove some of the powers the current house contains, and we need to remove the charter, and replace it with words that enforce the power and will of the citizens. As Chretien, like or hate him, once said, “Canada is a Monocracy”.
I don’t think anyone is trying to hide the past. It’s just a rather minor event that happened a long time ago, that if you weren’t personally involved in you likely didn’t care that much about it, and everyone who was personally involved in it is now dead. 60,000 odd Canadians were killed in WW1, and likely twice that many came home permanently crippled. In terms of number of people involved it is the biggest shared event in Canadian history, and it really isn’t that surprising that among all the things that happened, this one tiny event got missed from most history books.
Indiana Jane: “The real story is not of internment. Not of false imprisonment, but of a government that tried to hide it’s past.” This is EXACTLY what bothers me the most about Canadian governments – past, present and probably future. They disappear history. Claiming that privilege takes some large gonads.
Two of my best friends growing up were Japanese Canadians who’s parents were interned. Great people and great Canadians. All that said the precautions taken in 1941 were necessary. My biggest regret was that the Japanese Canadians had much of their property confiscated and not compensated for. It sounds very bad but considering the times when many families were losing loved ones overseas the feelings were running high. According to my friends their parents were not abused during confinement.
When discussing Ukrainians how about the millions who were repatriated to the Russian communist in 1946-47. Millions were killed by the Red Army as they were received. Estimate 2 1/2 million killed. Brisitsh, French, Canadian and USA forces took part. The only known refusal to march these people to their deaths was a USA Army unit who sat down and refused to carry out the orders to march these people across a bridge to Red Army death squads.
Interesting to note that in Ottawa, at Pinecrest cemetery, there is an Eastern Orthodox section nearer to Greenbank, that contains the remains of Russian, Polish and Ukrainian soldiers…some have stones tended by the Commonwealth, some have Russian military designated stones and I saw one that indicated that the man was a member of Vlasovs Army! Now there is a survivor!
Great. Another group of “victims” to appease.
Let me guess…. a few million will make them feel better ?
There are no victims of this still around to be appeased. Just people claiming associate victim status. Also no one left to blame who was actually responsible for the decisions or who participated in carrying them out.
Just a bunch of us who weren’t even born then but who can stand in and turn out our pockets on their behalf.
History ,written for the convenience of those who rule.
The internment is no big deal,the erasure of the event is business as usual from Ottawa.
Just wait until Western Separation takes off,then some truly incredulous media spin will emerge.
Orwell was not making his tale up,he had lots of real world material to work from..
Then of course Canada,who still brag of their Apartheid System for “controlling” Natives.
As they use “free healthcare” to bankrupt the taxpayer.
But we are the “virtuous ones” in our media narrative.
Fascinating!
The war ended in 1918. The camps were not closed until 1920. Why the delay?
“The war ended in 1918. The camps were not closed until 1920. Why the delay?”
Took Canada Post that long to deliver the news.
Fighting the Bolshies until 1920 I’d guess.
Deniers!!!
My first job out of college was for a Japanese small business owner who spent WWII in the Tule Lake Internment camp. His family lost everything … their Salinas, CA farmland and every possession they owned. Upon release, he immediately went to UC Berkeley, married, and started a career culminating in his own very successful small business. Did he ‘like’ his internment? Like his complete loss of family wealth? Of course not. But did he become crushed by the experience? No. It only made him TOUGHER, and more resolute to rebuild his families legacy. And he did. Every one of his 4-children became wildly successful in their own right. All of them, highly educated, 1%-ers. Yes, he took the various reparations payments along the way … but he never complained about the experience, and was one of the most dedicated patriots to America I’ve ever met.
The Japanese American interment was brought to you by that great, big-hearted, liberal and Democrat governor of California : Earl Warren. Too bad Eisenhower didn’t realize what a sad piece of work he was, before he appointed him to the Supreme Court.
This is the first I’d ever heard of this. Wow.
And if you believe the NFB, the only armed uprising by Canadian troops on Canadian soil (modern era) occurred in Terrace BC when a bunch of Ukrainian conscripts heard that they were going to be shipped over to fight the Japanese. My grandmother passed through Terrace on a regular basis by train because she was part of the local school board. She grew up speaking Ukrainian. Funny thing for the NFB, she’s sure that all the Ukrainians in Terrace only spoke French because they didn’t understand a word she said…..
Though not everything she said could be counted on, she told me that one of the reasons for the Ukrainian internment was the Ukrainian archbishop of Canada telling all of his loyal subjects to go fight for their emperor. Unfortunately there wasn’t a Ukrainian Orthodox Church until after the war was over.
As long as I can remember, there has been an official Parks Canada (NPC way back then) plaque on the shore of Lac Beauvert across from the Jasper Park Lodge commemorating the Ukrainian internment camp there. There also has long been a similar plaque along the Bow Valley Parkway in Banff park. One can argue that that this episode is not well-enough known, but it has surely not been suppressed.
Imethisguy
In one sense, Boyko’s teacher was absolutely correct: no “Ukrainians” were interned, subjects of Emperor Franz Josef of Austria-Hungary were. The Dominion government wasn’t concerned with ethnicity; it was concerned with nationality. Ethnic Ukrainians who were subjects of the Czar were not interned.
And it was not only Austro-Hungarian subjects of Ukrainian ethnicity who were interned. So were those of German (Austrian), Hungarian, Czech, Slovak, Polish, Slovene and Croat ethnicity.
Well put JJM.
I wonder if Ryan Boyko’s teacher knew that and just didn’t want to get into it. This is a painful topic. Reparations are being tossed about these days inequitably. How sad, especially when there are denials by governments that any atrocities ever existed.