62 Replies to “Art Of The Fail”

  1. Seriously, Harper? Canada generally plays by the rules? Seriously? So Canada has not been funneling Chinese products into the US by circumventing NAFTA rules?

    1. Yes. That was the practice that was permissible under the old rules because it wasn’t spelled out clearly as a disallowed practice.
      It was a case of not breaking the rules, but violating the spirit of the rules. The US had very good reason to be concerned about that and to put a stop to that, despite Soi Boi’s silly media events at steel mills.
      Juthtin and his Libs are tight with the Chinese, but they, like all those affected by TDS, still vastly underestimate the skills, intellect and strategic genius of Trump.

      1. Correct.

        And let me add that leftist Americans are … uncomfortable … with a level playing field. They agree with Obama that America should be … taken down a notch … because we are sooooooo RICH … sooooo Privileged… soooo arrogant. Of course they are only thinking of themselves … not the vast majority of Americans who barely survive paycheck to paycheck

      2. “The US had very good reason to be concerned about that ”

        No it didn’t. Those Chinese imports are all positive no negative.

        1. Other than the fact that their steel is inferior in quality and inconsistent. To have it stamped with a Canadian flag and sent Stateside does not make it out high quality steel.

          That is a Yuge difference.

        2. Wow, you just made it tough for anyone else to satirize you.
          Who else can come up with a more cutting parody of you than you just did?

      1. Allan S.
        My understanding is the argument goes something like this.
        People who know better feel free tto jump in.
        Under NAFTA Canada would import steel aand aluminium and then repackage it as Canadian and sell it to the USA.
        Thereby avoiding Usa import rules / taxes on Chinese product
        Against the spirit of NAFTA but in compliance with the rules.
        The USA tried to work this out with Canada, bbut Canada ignored the Americans for a year so they just put the tariffs on

        1. 1) theres no evidence that was happening. That myth only exists on Trump supporting blogs.

          2) we could just turn the aluminum or steel into value added product and avoid the tariff, it only applies to unfinished product.

          So whats the point?

          1. still beating your dead horse?

            You better get on the red phone and straighten this out. /sarc

          2. Allan: You don’t read a lot do you. Everybody else seems to know what has been happening…CANADA HAS BECOME A DUMPING GROUND FOR CHINESE STEEL!!! Do you get it yet!!! DanBC: You are so right thanks for pointing it out about Allan!!!

          4. Allan, perhaps you can explain this:

            “(Bloomberg) — Canada is applying quotas and a 25 percent tariff on steel imports from China and other countries to avoid becoming a dumping ground for steel in the face of metal levies imposed by U.S. President Donald Trump.

            Canada will erect new barriers to any flood of shipments of seven types of foreign steel, and will issue refunds and exemptions to some Canadian firms on tariffs paid on imports from the U.S.”
            October 11, 2018
            https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canada-announces-25-safeguard-tariff-on-steel-imports-from-china-1.1151129

            Yeah, the article has some spin to it…… but isn’t it really an admission of what has been going on.

          5. Canada already does that with aluminum. ingots from Quebec go to Ogdensburg NY, then are sent to Kingston ON, then back to NY.

      2. Because it doesn’t matter if the aluminum or steel comes from China or Canada – the American importers still have to pay 25% more and this makes American aluminum and steel more competitive.

        1. Its hard to make American aluminum and steel competitive when most of the mills are outdated and they have to import aluminum ore or use low quality domestic iron ore.

          2. The US imports over twice as much steel from Russia as Canada imports from China (2.0mt vs 0.8mt respectively). Assuming Canadians were the devils that Trumpsters believe them capable of and we “funneled” every single tonne South, it would be less than 1% of US steel consumption. WTF!

            Trump is brilliant at politicking on the false hopes of protectionism re-igniting the smokestacks. He would be more effective if he cleared the regulatory minefield to allow focus on growing natural advantage upstarts and re-training assistance for workers from noncompetitive legacy industries. Trump is no better than the Spawn / Scheer defending the dairy cartel. The difference is Canada has no negotiating strength due to being overly tied to the US market. Trump wanted a “win” and the Spawn had to comply or lose Ontario’s auto sector.

          3. alla stupid, friend of mine worked in steel for 30 years , sales, and yup, Chinese steel dumping happens according to him. A customer worked all metals , till health issues stopped him. And again, he confirms that there is steel and aluminum dumping. You really need to get out more, most of your posts on anything show your lefty stupidity.

          4. Nowhere did I say chinese dumping doesnt happen. It just doesnt happen in Canada to circumvent NAFTA.

            There are many forces at play that make American aluminum and steel uncompetitive. Chinese dumping is just one of them.

        2. “this makes American aluminum and steel more competitive.”

          Actually this makes those aluminum and steel producers less competitive because there is now less reason to compete. Just another reason to not invest in the US: why would you want a more expensive set of raw materials? D

          Didn’t Australia get exempted from these idiotic tariffs?

          1. Why would anyone want to invest in the US? Access to the US market, the worlds largest and richest. Duh.

  2. Trudeau routinely gets kicked to the sidelines while representing Canada.
    He returns home to Canada, and feeling the beatdown, takes it out on western Canada.

    Sophia then says to him, “good boy, I’m proud of you”.

    Election in a year, and hopefully Mr. Sheer doesn’t peak too early…. 😉

    1. This next Canadian election will shape up much like the last US election. If the right splits the vote or refuses to vote because the leader isn’t perfect, you will get 4 MOAR years of socialism, by a corrupt government that hates productive people.
      There’s no way Max can form a government, but he can sure help Juthtin get elected the most. That’s a very inconvenient truth. I can say that Scheer isnt my idea of a perfect leader, but on his worst day, he’s still far more preferable than Soi Boi Juthtin and his vagina government

      1. If Max stays in Quebec he could win many seats and form a coalition with Scheer. The Liberals need to win Quebec and Ontario.

        1. Steve,

          It is far more likely that Max splits the vote in Qbec, and the cretinous Liberals win going up the middle. You are hoping for a complete collapse of the CPC in Quebec. That’s a bridge too far.
          Because, I agree, the Libs form government by winning Ontario and Quebec, the Maritimes are too beholden to Liberal largesse and dependency, to ever vote any other way. Any party that wins both provinces, will likely get a majority government, save for the PMSH exception of not winning Qbec. The battleground is Ontario.
          I like Max’s ideas, however, the media will Trumplicate him to defeat him, no matter how many lies or distortions it takes, we saw in the last election, that the Canadian media, much like their American counterparts, are dyed in the wool liars and distortion artists.

        2. Steve from Rockwood: EXACTLY this is what I’m hoping for…that Max will pick up the Liberal right as the Lie-bral left are socialist. I think we will see Soros and Obummer get involved in our politics using outside money to pay our MEDIA against the Conservatives and The Canadian People’s Party. With Just in Tru-groper handing out VOTING CARDS to all whom have come across the border…will make a nightmare out of our voting system. Diversity is NOT OUR STRENGTH it is our WEAKNESS…..UNITY AS CANADIANS and our VALUES makes us CANADIANS!!!!!! VOTE OUT THE LIE-BRALS IN 2019! VOTE OUR LIE-BRALS IN 2019!!

  3. Personally I think the USMCA is good for Canada and Canadians. If it stops the exporting of Canadian jobs to China and increases Canadian worker participation in the Canadian economy and increased wages then it is good for Canada. I am not a fan of monopolies and the dairy industry has been running a monopoly for a very long time. It needs competition to improve and keep its prices/costs down.

    1. I think Joe you just pointed out some wins that will filter down to Canadian families. The losers are the middlemen who facilitated NAFTA abuse by foreign interests and Canadian consumer gouging monopolies. Long term trade agreements don’t survive when partners are taken advantage of. Trudeau should be happy that there’s still a trade agreement with the U.S. given the sneaky stuff that happened under NAFTA.

    3. “If it stops the exporting of Canadian jobs to China ”

      DEY DUN TERK MA JERB

      We’re gonna automate your job away anyway.

      1. “We’re gonna automate your job away anyway.”
        A variation of Obama’s “Those jobs are never coming back.”?

        “DEY DUN TERK MA JERB”
        A variation of Hillary’s “Basket of deplorables”.

        Stop paraphrasing. Use original sources.

  4. Prime Minister Stephen Harper advised Canadian Voters during the 2015 Federal Election the Leader of the Liberal Party– Justin Trudeau — was not ready to become the Prime Minister of Canada. P.M. Harper has been proven correct.

    The “proof is proven in the proof” as stated by the former Liberal Prime Minister; Jean Chretien; who was exposed for corruption through the Gomery Investigations.

    The mistake of the Canadian Voters during the 2015 Federal Election was compounded by not recognizing the craven practices of CBC to use significant bias against Conservative Policies, in order to increase, actually double the Bi;;ions of Tax-payer Funded Subsidies as promised and subsequently provided by the Proven Liars of the Justin Trudeau Administration.

    Canadian Citizens now recognize the many ways, from abandonment of Canada’s Culture and Vaues, to setting up a Federal Cabinet dominated with Islamic Cabinet Ministers with an Agenda. An Agenda which is contrary to the Social Contract between Canadian Citizens and the abandonment of Canada’s values. Encouraging and actively moving toward the “islamic gender apartheid” -published by Phyllis Cheslwe in 2017 describing the future for Canadian Women & Girls based on Ms.Chesler’s personal experience and forty (40) years of preparing and providing Reports to the Human Rights Tribunal @ the Hague and Reports to Human Rights Commission of the United Nations describing the –Barbraiem of Islam/Mus;im treatment of Women and Girls in Muslim Dominated Cultures throughout the World.

    Such a Barbaric Culture to replace Canada’s Culture and Values is now the Agenda driven Islamizts and the weak, supplicant non-Muslim Cabinet Ministers only concerned with Personal self-interest.

    1. Michael McCallion Sr., Just in Tru-groper thinks DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH…but it is NOT…UNITY AS CANADIANS IS OUR STRENGTH with Canadian Values!! UNITY…UNITY AS CANADIANS with our Canadian Values makes us CANADIAN!!! VOTE OUT THE LIE-BRALS IN 2019….VOTE OUT THE LIE-BRALS IN 2019!!!

    2. Justin Trudeau is a globalist. But it is notable that the two main globalists, Macron of France and Merkel of Germany are both in big trouble at home.

      Merkel’s main coalition partner just got hammered in Bavaria and Macron’s popularity is almost a zero. It’s not surprising that Trudeau is also having a bad moment. We will soon know if the globalist movement is really fading….. after the midterm elections in the U.S.

  5. I am kind of meh on the whole thing and I don’t think the Cons can make much out of it. While I think the analysis is correct, no major wins. The main objective of ANY Canadian PM with the US is to maintain access, and thus prosperity, for our Goods and Services. So that means a C grade. That the aluminum and steel tarrifs didn’t come off likely makes it a C Minus.

    Could the deal have been better, maybe. We will never know. I think a better deal was possible pre G7. Be nice to know what was on the table at that stage. If it turns out there was a better deal on offer earlier and we passed it by then PM and Minister Freyland have some serious questions to answer. Perhaps some enterprising reporter or interested third party can piece it together, hypothesis and suspicion is yes but need some facts here.

    1. The ongoing tariffs are a special poke in the eye to Juthtin and the Harridan, for Juthtin’s doublecross at the G8.

      The tariffs will stay for some time, as a reminder to every country, what happens when you negotiate in bad faith with the New America. MAGA.

  6. They got a deal at the eleventh hour, that’s their bragging point. We will find out in time what we really got out of it, by then we will have a new government, if we don’t we are fools.

    1. Liz J: Your are EXACTLY right about that…their bragging points! If we don’t have a new gov’t we are FOOLS!!!

  7. If Canada hadn’t spent a year jerking around with their gender, indigenous, and environmental bs a better deal likely could have been signed. I think the US team finally realized what they were dealing with and that’s when the gloves came off. They figured out that Canada’s trade team couldn’t seem to shit or get off the pot so a little pressure was required to get the deal completed.

    1. I’m just a simple moron who comments on blogs but I recall posting on this site that Trump was concerned with China more than Mexico or Canada. Trudeau could have used the opportunity to strike a better deal. I believe that Trump gave him a lot of time. When Trudeau back-stabbed Trump after the G8, that is when the gloves came off. America would force Canada to support it’s escalating trade war with China. Trudeau used gender, indigenous and environmental smoke screens to appeal to voters at home, probably hoping it would carry him through the next election. If the Republicans withstand the blue wave in November I expect Trudeau is going to get his Liberal clock well-cleaned in 2019.

      1. Couldn’t agree more, except for the last conclusion.

        Juthtin has the corrupt and bribed media to protect and promote his idiotic policies, while carrying on their lies and distortions of the CPC and opposition to our Lithping Leader with cute sox.

        It wont be a cakewalk, unless the CPC fights fire with fire, in Ontario, equating Korrupt Kathleen’s Libs to Jihadi Juthtin’s Liberals. They are the same, however, Ontario seems to vote schizophrenically. And I don’t trust the CPC to truly fight the good fight. I expect more like the disastrous PMSH cash register promotion…………………remember, this fight has to combat the aura of handsome Juthtin and his huggy, touchy, feely, smiley, sunny ways, an impenetrable force field for millions of deluded Canadians.

      2. I hate to have to tell you that the split in the conservative vote along with the flight from the NDP thanks to the LOSER JAGMEAT SING. …. means
        Another four years of Canadian deterioration.

  9. Mexico has a president who fought to get Mexico the best deal possible. The U.S. has a president who fights for the U.S., not Canada, nuff said, all good. The problem is Canada has a Prime Minister who also fights against Canadian interests. The country is being triple teamed.

    1. Let’s acknowledge that the Mexicans negotiated in good faith as well, contrary to Jihadi Juthtin and Harridan’s duplicitous strategy. That’s why the Mexicans did, in fact, get a good deal, (along with being respectful!) and why our country got a worse raking (ongoing tariffs for one) than it could have gotten, if there was a seasoned and knowledgable team representing Canada. Instead, Freeland and her virtue signalling stupidity.

    2. “The U.S. has a president who fights for the U.S”

      No he doesn’t. Fight for the US = unilateral free trade. No tariffs at all. Trump only (ineptly) fights for cronies.

      1. Any national leader is supposed to fight for his own country’s best interest.
        The rest of your comment is simply Trump Derangement Syndrome.

      2. Your darling Trudles fights for the Davoisie, starting with George Soros, an unrepentant bag man for the German’s late Fuhrer.

  10. When you elect a clown .. you get a circus.
    A clown surrounded by toxic feminists.. what the hell did anyone expect?

  11. The Altering of the Deal

    Same tactics as the Aldrich Plan vs. the Congressional plan to establish the Federal Reserve. Both the same plan with minor differences…

    NAFTA 2.0 – Globalism Rebranded

    ‘The proposed USMCA has been widely portrayed
    as a replacement for NAFTA, which supposedly will no longer exist.
    Yet an honest look at the new agreement shows
    that what will no longer exist is the highly unpopular NAFTA name.
    In fact, not only does the USMCA retain
    sovereignty-diminishing provisions found in NAFTA,
    but it actually strengthens and expands them.’
    -Christian Gomez, 10-1-18

    ‘The USMCA looks to be the trade pact formerly known
    as NAFTA plus 10-20%. Hope it becomes a precedent for TPP.
    I suggest the US-Pacific Trade Agreement (USPTA). What matters
    is that the US joins it; doing so would bolster our
    strategic position vis-a-vis China and our economy.’
    -Richard Haas (president of the C.F.R.), 10-1-18

    “[From] some of the reads I got over night, two-thirds of this agreement
    is essentially going back to TPP…All they did was take so much of
    the language of TPP and implement it here, as it pertains to Canada.”
    -Bruce Heyman (former U.S. Ambassador to Canada), 10-1-18

    ‘[NAFTA]will represent the most creative step toward a new world order
    taken by any group of countries since the end of the Cold War, and the first step
    toward the even larger vision of a free-trade zone for the entire Western Hemisphere.’
    -Henry Kissinger, 7-18-93

  12. So I see neither you people nor Harper understand how trade works or what the point of it is.

    The entire of exports is to finance imports. That’s it. Imports are the point of trade. They are prosperity. No country has ever been harmed by cheap imports.

    Another thing: pretty sure the USCMA still needs ratification by the Congress. I am not sure this would happen even if the GOP weren’t about to get shellacked.

    1. you know U\unDork, you keep honking off about others who don’t understand things, while proving it is you who doesn’t understand. When I took my IE course, if you had been in it, you would have been laffed out of it. Butt girly boy, you do not have the intellectual capacity to have been in my course, it was a hi achievers course, and you are just effin stupid, allan S stupid!

  13. I miss Harper. He and his Finance Minister were a relative pillar of strength during the financial crisis.
    I haven’t heard a diplomatic word from the Feds since Trudes and his radical and inexperienced cohorts entered stage left. Our lizard overlords in the media gave Harper no credit. Canadians wished for Obama instead of the adult we had. The international community sees Trudes for the fop he is. Would that my ‘country-persons’ were so astute.

    Scheer is another shill for our ruling class. Still, he is better than the alternative bottom feeders. He won’t run from one mosque to the next during a campaign. He won’t stab our allies in the back.
    He is more likely to hire people with a suitable resume. He will show up for work, as evidenced by his quiet trip to India.

    Harper and Trump would have had mutual respect, and Trump would have found a way to make him look good with a better deal for a good neighbor.

  14. Harper is right, Canada got snookered. Has anyone anywhere suggested USMCA is a better deal for Canada than NAFTA was?
    It’s been said the US and Mexico are better off but no one has suggested Canada is.

    Lets face the facts bongo’s strategy didn’t work. He started by squandering the goodwill Canada had enjoyed with the US and then appointed the most acerbic mean spirited person he could to lead our negotiating team. A person without a lick of sense. I don’t give a damn what she did as a reporter she was a fish outa water on this file and Canada will wear the consequences of this for decades to come. The world must be laughing at us.

  16. 3 and 4 years ago we made several trips to Vancouver by car. At the time I wondered why I saw so many semi trucks hauling iron pipe and rods east . Now I know it came from China I don’t think the lower mainland of BC has a heavey steel industry.

  17. Fact – You can’t MAGA importing Chinese junk.

    New Fact – 2019 – MAGA, “Make Alberta Great Again”!

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