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  1. Excellent news…

    I think Premier Ford should use the NWS clause in all the bills passed by his gov’t, including bills such as changing the parking rules around Queens Park.

    All of them, all the time. Until the courts of Canada understand that elections have consequences, and the people that elect their representatives decide this.

  2. Everyone in Canada should use that little tool until the charter explodes and we go back to the BNA based system. The Charter was a dead man walking before it entered the room. Fuddle Duddle 1.0 rushed it to get a legacy. No mention of property rights and no input from real Canadians, means it was foisted, not created.

    1. “Who will be the next group to be brushed aside, their charter rights disregarded?” asks the Star.

      Well. Jean Chrétien himself suggested it could be used against “hate speech” and child pornography. Perhaps Premier Ford can consider clamping down on anti-Semitic, Islamic and homosexual propaganda, and challenge the NDP and what remains of the Libranos to campaign openly as the parties of Jew-haters, terrorists and perverts.

    2. Quebec used it and that is why English is forbidden. Time to put the courts in their place. Overriding the provincial constitution and law is not a perogative of any court in the province.

  3. The notwithstanding clause, of course, was put in the Trudeaupian constitution to allow Quebec governments to simply ignore court rulings that their attempts to ban the English language and drive the f@#king English and f@#king Jews out of their “country” were unconstitutional.

    What took good men so long to use it against activists in judicial robes is beyond me.

    Another sign that the English are waking up.

    1. Incorrect. The NC was insisted upon by advisors to Peter lougheed. He went along with them and thus it was AB that put in this ‘out’ clause.

      1. I stand corrected.

        Of course, Alberta really needed the clause in 1935 when the courts were overruling the Social Credit party’s attempts at real reform.

        In heaven Rev. Aberhart is smiling.

      2. “insisted”?

        ”
        Justice Minister Jean Chrétien agreed to the notwithstanding clause in the Kitchen Accord.
        The clause was included as part of what is known as “The Kitchen Accord”. At the end of a conference on the constitution that was poised to end in deadlock, Jean Chrétien, the federal justice minister, as well as Roy McMurtry and Roy Romanow, both provincial ministers, met in a kitchen in the National Conference Centre in Ottawa and sowed the seeds for a deal. This compromise ultimately caused two major changes to the constitution package: the first was that the Charter would include the “notwithstanding clause”, and the second was an agreed-upon amending formula. They then worked through the night with consultations from different premiers, and agreement from almost everybody. However, they notably excluded René Lévesque, the premier of Quebec, in the negotiations. At any rate, he refused to agree to the deal, and ultimately the Quebec government declined to endorse the constitutional amendment. Chrétien would later say on the notwithstanding clause, “Canada probably wouldn’t have had any Charter without it.”[2]

        According to Chrétien, in 1992, Trudeau blamed him for the notwithstanding clause, saying “you gave them that”. Chrétien replied, “Sorry, Pierre. I recommended it. You gave it.”[2]”

        1. Those were interesting times back then. Readers’ memories are correct that the hype around “re-patriation” was stirred up by Trudeau, as part of his response to the 1980 Quebec referendum. Although there had always been a recognition among politicos in the country that it was inconvenient to go the the “imperial parliament” in the UK every time they wanted to tinker with the constitutional plumbing, it really wasn’t a burning political issue except for Trudeau. There had been many previous discussions, particularly after the Statute of Westminster in 1937, and there was near-agreement in 1970 in Victoria, but it never came off.

          When Trudeau convened another conference after the referendum the western, non-socialist premiers of the day, Bennett, Lougheed, and Lyon, teamed up with Levesque in an alliance to oppose Trudeau. With the exception of the druggie-pederast from NB, (a friend and great admirer of Trudeau’s), and Ontario’s Davis, (Upper Canada being the bedrock of Confederation of course), Trudeau had no provincial allies, on public record at least.

          To get some bargaining leverage, Trudeau went to his friend Bora Laskin, the chief justice of the SC, and said “Bora, help me out here, throw me a bone.” Bora delivered, but it was a weird pronouncement: the federal government had the exclusive legal right to go to Westminster to request changes to the BNA Act but it would be really nice if the feds acted after consultation with the provinces. Trudeau then threatened the premiers he was now armed the weapon he needed and they needed to start “negotiating” or he’d act unilaterally and they could fuddle-duddle off.

          The Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia this was NOT. The provinces, even collectively, were not viewed as equal partners, (as were, nominally, the colonies Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and PEI prior to 1867 Confederation).

          The majority of the Premiers in private felt they had been coerced, and Levesque publicly accused all of them of betrayal of their pact against the hated Trudeau.

          As for Trudeau blaming Chretien for the deal he had hastily concocted…well that’s just vintage Trudeau. He never did any heavy-lifting in his life, and was intellectually and emotionally unaccountable for anything. Push him too far and he was always ready with the finger and the f-bomb. The establishment pseudo-intellectuals perceived this as profound moral depth and revered him for it. They still do.

          When Trudeau (very reluctantly) realized he was un-electable in 1984, (after consulting with pollster Martin Goldfarb and Keith Rainmaker Davie the man who, along with Maurice Strong had created the Trudeau political mirage), he sorrowfully announced his retirement. The non-intelligentsia in the country rejoiced from coast to coast. Truly there was joy in the land. Aside from his 12% national approval rating, the lowest EVER at that time, he was the most viscerally hated man in Canada.

          This truth has been expunged from the collective memory by our ruling elites, and they have systematically cultivated a false memory of Trudeauism through cultural propaganda and other rubbish ever since. Our current regime is a testament to their successful brain-washing.

  4. Yay, is the science is settled? Good for Ford, he will recall the l
    Legislature to invoke the ‘notwithstanding’ clause to overide a court decision striking down his government’s law to cut Toronto council in half. (section 33 of the Constitution)

    Wonder what la PM will think about this?
    Wait till Andrew Scheer hears about this!

      1. “Who is Andrew ?
        A milkman. A con man. Hope his constituents vote him out for that during the next election.

        1. “Milkman”. Nice. 🙂
          Presuming a better starting point (a reach, I know), I suspect Scheer’s turn as Speaker softened his brain against any ability to think critically. Or even ideologically. I had no opinion on him prior to the leadership convention, but I was surprised he won. Since then, I have come to the conclusion that Ambrose, for all her faults, performed far better as interim leader than he ever will as the “true” leader.

          1. Another Calgary Marc:

            You’re right, that’s exactly what I ‘ve been thinking – he says so little –
            probably only ..”order…order…order…
            …all rise now,”

            As for Ambrose she was honest about the Green Gang wanting to put people out of earning a living.

            Harper is probably not surprised, this new crop – all career politicians, bet ya Harper is happily retired.

  6. Ford upstaged TruDOPE as well, decisive leadership.

    This is what PM Soy Boy should have done in regards to the KM pipeline, if he REALLY felt that strongly about getting it built.

    1. Turdeau and Notley do not want the TMX pipeline. The recent federal court decision is just one chapter of the endless delay game. Even if additional consultation is done, there are a whole series of additional lawsuits sitting in the wings waiting to be pursued. And Horgan is just sitting in the wings content to let the court delays occur before invoking the not withstanding clause to deny bitumen to be transported through BC.

      However, kudos to Ford for telling unaccountable activist judges to shove it.

    2. Dan, your assertion that the PM could have taken decisive action is entirely true. He has available a huge arsenal of leverage that he just refused to use, which to me was always revelatory of his true intentions. Judge not a “man” by his words, but by his actions. Unfortunately, joe is also correct: Horgan chose this as his hill to die on. Our best hope there is that it drags on long enough for BC to realise how badly they effed up in their electoral choices and destroy these two parties in BC for decades to come. The pessimist in me, however….

    1. Shove off. We already have a Bill of Rights, passed in 1689. Best of all, the right to bear arms it confers can’t be misconstrued as a state national guard provision: it says “bear arms for their defence according to law”.

      Additional note: that Bill of Rights was passed by a free and sovereign Parliament with no Trudeaupian Charter in the background.

  9. I’ll get literary and quote Frank McCourt. I wouldn’t give a good judge the “steam of my piss”. A Khadr lover is a whole order of level beneath that.

  10. This is a good decision. It limits the power of federal judges – appointed by the prime minister – from running over the provinces. It should be used often until the constitution is changed to make the courts more respectful of provincial jurisdiction amoung other things.

  11. So now there will be eight communists running Toronto instead of twenty?

    That’s a tremendous improvement. /s

    1. Whoooooosh

      Now the communists fighting Ford are outed as nothing but entitled apparatchiks while Ford remains the champion for taxpayers.

  12. FINALLY! As a long time, born here, citizen of Canada, I have long ago tired of self appointed holier than thou judges overturning our duly elected officials legislation. We elect these people to do a job, finally a politician ready to use all the tools available.

  13. “Doug Ford is trampling on the rights of all Ontarians”
    At least that’s what The Laurentian Star thinks. Indeed they and the few people they represent have been trodden upon along with their snowflake collective. But the majority, I would venture, are not trampled as snowflakes; they are massaged as hard working people at the end of a long day.
    Evidence here: (Historic, liberal, poignant)
    https://reviewcanada.ca/magazine/2012/01/the-collapse-of-the-laurentian-consensus/

    1. They seem to forget that the people of Ontario recently had a provincial election, the people of Ontario gave Premier Ford a democratically elected parliamentary majority. The long suffering tax payers of Toronto, who in a CTV Toronto poll voted 87% in favour of this action (before it disappeared off the CTV site), probably don’t feel at all trampled on, except maybe by the judge.

  14. Judge Belobaba also ruled against the widow of the soldier that Khadr killed. He refused to have the money Trudeau awarded Khadr frozen.
    “People might have a lot of opinions. But this is not a coffee shop. This is a court of law,” Belobaba said during the hearing. “We don’t, thank goodness, in Canada have one law for Omar Khadr and one law for all other Canadians.”

  16. Idiot libtards. The more they fight it the better the optics for Ford. Outcome is pretty much irrelevant. Either way they come out as entitled apparatchiks and Ford will come out as one fighting for taxpayers. If they had any brains they would quit while they were behind. This may well result in a bloodbath election at the municipal level.

  17. Kind of sad to see Ontario suffering less…
    They are the ones who elected Trudeau, Wynne, McGuinty, Rae, Trudeau, …
    They are the province who fired Mike Harris, …

    Democracy is the theory that Ontario knows what it wants, and deserves to get it good and hard.

    2. Harris retired. His successor was backtracking all over the place. Still better than a liberal, but not as good as the original. Don’t run your mouth until you elect a premier as good as Ford.

  18. Go Ford! By my count thats at least 3 Canadian men, (Dr. Peterson and Max Bernier being the others) that are brave enough to fight back against the pricks of progressivism/fascism and their maggot comrades of the corporate Media Mafia. Go Ford… oh yeah, fu3k Trudeaus Charter… I never voted for it, and neither did anyone else.

  20. Quite the conundrum for the charter party isn’t it?
    They advocate doing away with sec 33 they then have to contend with Quebec’s bill 101.
    They say nothing, it not only proves Ford is completely justified, but that the liberals have been employing activist court decisions to do what they can’t do through legislation.
    There seems to be pattern repeating since Nov 2015.
    The progressives are being made to live by the rules they put in place and they are finding it very difficult to adjust.
    More please.

  21. The word of the day yesterday was “DANGEROUS”.

    He is setting a “dangerous” precedent.
    A “dangerous” political move.
    “dangerous” to our democratic principals.
    A “dangerous” intrusion into the necessary oversight provided by the courts.

    And last but not least….from a “legal expert” handpicked by CTV:
    “… threatening and “dangerous” to our democracy, which is after all, a fairly delicate system.

    1. FUD. How do you expect a tyranny to maintain control over its populace without resorting to fear? Ford creates a nice, big Other for them to take aim at. If Ford Derangement Syndrome hadn’t already been put under way, this would likely be considered the starting point. In no time at all, he’ll be “literally Hitler”.

  22. Apparently Mike Harris once remarked he wouldn’t over ride the Charter. Now idiot lefties are quoting him – apparently he’s not hitler anymore.

  23. Ford said it all, he was elected, the SCC is appointed, this is a democracy. The SC can give their interpretation on each Charter case presented to them, a government elected by the people should have the right to reject it otherwise it weakens our democracy.
    We need to have Judges elected, it’s a far more urgent matter than worrying about an elected Senate.

  24. Premier Ford could go further and do away with the electoral map and force Toronto to elect every councillor at large.

  25. The not-withstanding clause was developed and promoted by Premiers Sterling Lyon of Manitoba and Allan Blakney of Saskatchwan.

  27. Honestly, I’m kinda on the fence about this one. I love that he’s pushing back, and hard, but I think he has to be careful how he does this going forward. Using this weapon gives the other side a lot more licence to do the same thing when they get back into power, so the weapon should be used judiciously. And this is the same for any legislative weapon: any law you make can be used against you at a later time. However, this action serves as good notice to the judicial system that they better be sure they want to throw down the gauntlet, b/c they’ll get slapped in the face good and hard. Spurious reasons for striking down laws and rules best not be used, or the sheriff’ll come gunnin’ for ya.

    1. Then if sec 33 is open to abuse and the only thing keeping it from being employed is public opinion then we can also accept the guy that is credited with the creation of this charter screwed up.
      Anyone remember who that was?

  28. Well done ” Premier Ford” and I use that title with great respect. I knew in ’82 that the new constitution was bad news for Canada and that has certainly come true, the NWC may be one of the few usablel parts of the constitution and it appears that most premiers were afraid to use it. Hopefully Premier has opened the gates to make other provinces think about using it to stop ill conceived laws that are more politically motivated then good for the country.

  29. A judicial robe does not give someone (probably a Liberal) the right to dictate government policy and regulation and law, to over ride an elected government. Glad to see Ford lay down a marker for all the other special interest groups who are already employing Lawfare to oppose the democratically elected government’s policies.

  30. Doug Ford did this? to/in Tranna?
    what better than someone located in that set of geographical coordinates to know who needs to get punched in the face.

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