Trying to do some economic research here and would very much appreciate your insights and participation.
104 Replies to “What’s the Market Value of a Non-Leftist, Traditional Woman?”
Priceless
You beat me to it… though I would have referenced it as the MasterCard advertising tagline.
“employed”
Why isn’t she cooking and helping to take care of the younger kids in the family?
You do other stuff.
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I would say she’s worth about half your earnings at 35-45 given that’s otherwise when you’d be getting divorced.
I have been married to an educated conservative woman for 42 years. No drugs and only a social drinker. She’s smart, hard-working career oriented, always dresses nicely, has no tattoos, is not fat, doesn’t use bad language, is friendly a polite to everyone, (even leftists) takes shit from no one!
That is what I like and respect in a woman.
I wouldn’t trade her for ten leftist whacks no matter how pretty or cool or hip … which they usually are not. They are usually in need of therapy.
Hope that helped.
You’re a lucky man.
I’ve been married to a slightly different version than yours … since 1982. My wife is as sweet as can be, and can fall prey to those who prey on such good hearted souls. I have had to “encourage” her to stand up for her rights, her opinions, and not get trampled in this dog-eat-dog world. I have also had to slowly convert her to a rabid right winger … by simply exposing her to critical thinking and truth … over shallow “feel good” policies that do more harm than good. Her sweet nature skews toward the liberals who promise all manner of won-der-ful goodies … until she learns who gets HURT in the process.
And she is “aging” much better than her nasty, bitter, leftist RESISTer sister. All that HATE is inscribed on her sisters face and body, despite her veganism and obsessive personal attention. My wife looks great for a 61yo! Remember those anti-smoking advertisements, where “smokers face” was used to deter smoking? The conservatives need to run a similar ad campaign (illustrating the angry, ugly, contorted, faces of unhinged liberal women) with the tagline … liberalism RUINS your looks. Like a meth-face covered in sores.
Employed = check
Debt free= check
I love my tattoos.
I would think that “virginity” would only hold value if both partners remain chaste and value it. As a conservative woman, I don’t put a lot of value in hypocritical double standards.
I would think that it would be pretty important to a man to ensure he isn’t attaching himself to a leech, even if financially dependent might fall into the “traditional” category. Market wise, men are waaaay more vulnerable financially to women with “traditional” standards of who ends up on the financial hook. If I were a guy, I would be wary. Both parties need to go into a relationship with eyes wide open about who gets screwed and how if the relationship ends. Traditionally, if that is what we are valuing here, women can kneecap a guy financially if he is the sole provider.
I am non-leftist to the core, but experience has taught me to pick and choose from the traditional pile. It has served both me and my husband well, lo these many years.
This is how deep the rot goes, Gentlemen. Be careful out there.
Hahaha! I’m the rot? Fair enough, then…
One person’s opinion …
To the extent that you position yourself as a non-leftist, conservative woman while reading off talking points from a 1970’s “progressive” feminist flash card deck yes. If you hadn’t done that I wouldn’t have taken any particular notice of your comment. As we used to say back in the day, “Do your own thing.” But if you are conserving something, it’s Betty Friedan.
Disclaimer of Bias: I am not a conservative or traditionalist either, but I know one when I see one, and I ain’t lookin’ at one.
Young men looking for a conservative woman to settle down and have children with, Aaron put “no tattoos” on the list for a reason beyond aesthetics. They are a dead giveaway for the faux-conservative, feminist woman. Remember this and you can avoid being blindsided months into a relationship when she suddenly starts to sound like a recording of Gloria Steinem.
I was more responding to Aaron’s “Market Value” question. Since I’m married and believe in small government and individual values as opposed to “group/identity” based values, I am no leftist.
I was really just suggesting that some of the more traditional ideals of women can end up being financially costly to a man. I’m not saying that I have or would do it, as I am actually independent, apparently negating my conservative credibility, but I thought it could factor in to his Market Value analysis.
Market wise, $3,400 per month in child support and alimony would be a negative outcome in my books. If I were a man. And if I were using such things to value women. Traditional can have its drawbacks.
Based on my beliefs and voting history, I am conservative. Based on my tattoos and lack of virginity, clearly I’m somewhere between NDP and Green Party.
“I was really just suggesting that some of the more traditional ideals of women can end up being financially costly to a man.”
That is correct, but I note that when those ideals were part of the tradition men got some compensatory authority to go along with the responsibility, the so called “oppression” of women. In the current social milieu the responsibilities have been ramped up to the level of women’s fantasy ideals, while the authority has been stripped.
“Based on my beliefs and voting history, I am conservative. Based on my tattoos and lack of virginity, clearly I’m somewhere between NDP and Green Party.”
Right. A fairly typical woman of the current age who is so imbued with progressive ideas that she has no idea how far to the traditional left she really is, and so can position herself as a “conservative” because she wishes to conserve the point of “progress” 20 years ago.
You are correct; the compensatory authority is gone. Legally so. Alas, for the good old days.
So, if we are operating in the modern age, with the current legal rights, and not subject to sharia law, then, yes, I am still conservative.
And if you wish to conserve the point of being “conservative” to some ideal whose time passed more than 60 years ago, you will find the conservative movement to be quite limited also.
Aaaaaaaand, that’s where I came in to this movie.
Agreed. You tried to warn others of us tree hugging hippies posing as “not-leftists” by nature of our current financial and social independence.
Semantics aside, I am likely still going to refer to myself as conservative, and I’ll even vote that way for as long as I am at leisure to do so under this current lax regime.
Wish I could upvote kfg’s bullseye-splitting comments above and below. No male traditionalist is pining for a woman with “financial and social independence” to have a long-term, child-bearing relationship with. He wants his genes to live on and his kids to grow up happy and healthy in a traditional environment. He doesn’t care about her “small government” beliefs.
In fact, he knows his traditionalism is only going to make a resurgence by fellow statists promoting those horrible “group/identity based values”, anyway.
So, to the traditional man, these allusions to “sharia law” and “60 years ago” are actually features, not bugs. Who cares how much she likes “muh free market”? Every corporation today promotes the same globo-homo agenda that every traditional man like himself hates. The fact she puts any priority on political opinions at all is the first red flag.
If women are just as capable as men in the political realm (voting, running for office), then they are at best, redundant. And that’s okay. She *could* just do her biological duty and raise the next generation if she is so “conservative”. An actual conservative wouldn’t be offended by that. Or she could just come to terms with her inbred “leftism” she hates so much. Seeing as she isn’t a big fan of purity anyway, the diverging convictions shouldn’t be a bother for her.
To be fair, the amount of propaganda catapulted at women by the rootless, cosmopolitan, international European-style socialist elite for the last 100+ years, it’s practically a miracle that any are even remotely close to traditional. *Kate exempt from all the above, hail the queen
“No male traditionalist is pining for a woman with “financial and social independence” to have a long-term, child-bearing relationship with.”
I included it as relevant based on the fact that being employed/debt free was one of Aaron’s markers. While it may be preferable to a male traditionalist, I was pointing out that it can and will be financially crippling in the event that the man’s traditionalist charms don’t entice her to stay in the marriage.
Not just financially inconvenient, I mean life altering.
While your pining for the conservative lifestyles of the past may provide you emotional comfort, I have seen great men brought to their knees by believing that somehow their marriage was indestructible.
Obviously, your mileage may vary. And best of luck to the lucky woman who lands you. May she ever embrace your 1940’s ideals of a pure conservative woman…
One out of three but she’s speeeeeshul.
AWALT.
Tattoos on a woman are a very large neon sign saying “I’m desperate for attention, I like pain, and I have a very short future time horizon when making permanent life choices”.
It will be interesting to see how things will be 50 years from now. Imagine all those seniors homes filled with tattooed elderly women…..
Given that social security will collapse in less than 50 years I would not worry about too many senior homes …
there will be a new game called quess what the tatoo was.
Hahaha! I guess I will have to give up my modelling career once I hit the senior’s homes…
All kidding aside, my tattoos mean something to me and my husband. Since I am not planning for a future as a nude model, it won’t affect my ability to earn a living. In my opinion, if you find the right woman for you, and all that is holding you back is that she has a flower on her shoulder or some such nonsense, you might miss out. Love is pretty great, regardless of people’s imperfections. Or maybe because of them. Either way, I landed a winner with my husband and I have zero regrets about my “lowered market value”, or the hit I will take to my conservative credentials 🙂
Looking at it at a more fundamental level, body modification is not conservative, it is transformative.
Traditionally a tattoo was given (NOT gotten) to symbolize a personal transformation that had already taken place, such as a Rite of Passage into adulthood or being accepted into a guild. In the 1600s a tattoo on a European signified that the bearer had traveled under sail ’round the horn and to the South Sea islands. A century or so later, after Europeans had learned the art of tattooing themselves and so you didn’t have to go to the South Seas to get one, the standard was relaxed to having crossed the “line” (equator) under sail.
That’s why in Europe tattoos have been traditionally associated with sailors. And they had to earn them. A tattoo not earned is a form of stolen valor.
Good news. My valor is genuine, based on this rule of maritime law!
Good girl.
There are tattoos … then there are tattoos. A woman with a cute flower on her ankle hasn’t really besmirched God’s creation … but a woman with a ‘sleeve’ creeps me out. It seems to me that most people who perform body modification, are consciously or subconsciously mocking God by inscribing graffiti on his canvas. Just my opinion, but I don’t HATE tattooed people.
And TBH … I’ve never really “gotten” the whole “virginity” thing. What does that mean anyway? A totally intact hymen? Partially intact? Not to be gross, but I doubt my own daughter had much of a hymen by age 12 from playing competitive soccer (and perhaps some … uh … personal exploration). So what? I’ve never understood the obsession. It seems a weird misogynist thing … like Muslims tenting their women or having the Imam do a “virginity check” … gross!
Her price is far above rubies. Proverbs 31:10. You would do well to read the description of the virtuous woman in full (Prov. 31:10-31).
Perhaps higher mathematics can be more specific than Solomon. But his accounting is good enough for me.
Debt free? Yes.
No tats? Yes
Virgin? What, are you 15? No thanks, I like naughty girls.
Which is perfectly natural . . . until you start thinking about marrying one.
Heaven forbid! Then you would be STUCK married to someone you enjoy having sex with…
Precisely.
Amen! The corollary to that is painfully obvious.
Prior to reliable birth control, there may have been some element of self preservation. But in this day and age, few folks are really looking for a ‘Surprise!’ (Wait…what?! You hate sex?)
…or
(Wait…what?! you have a penis…too?)
Or “I will not do that, I kiss my children with those lips”
Or “Not like that, turn off the lights at least”
Or a 29 day long headache every 28 days.
Or “After children I lost interest in sex…”
Or “Not there eeeeeeew”
Married one more than two decades ago (no not because of pregnancy). Have always been faithful. Neither of us were saints before.
Agreed. Idealism can be a pretty long life sentence.
Character and compatibility all the way.
A life sentence combined with torture for kids.
Before allowing people to get married I would require them to live together under one roof for at least a year. Then ask if they still want to do that. You’d cut the divorce rate by half.
Actually, strictly in terms of divorce rate, traditional arranged marriages are the most durable and living together first the least.
Yes of course arranged marriages do not end in divorce. My property cannot divorce me either.
Hahahahaha! Agreed. If you have no say in the marriage, you likely don’t have a lot of say in the divorce…
Yup. When she starts stepping out on you with a drug dealing bimboy, and they start planning together how they are going to spend her cut of your money, you’ll start wondering whether that naughty girl was worth it…
Don’t get me wrong – I love “naughty” girls too – they are a total riot! But they are NOT marriage material. Not ever. At best, you “see” them for a few months. Till you start banging one of their hot friends. But you NEVER let them move in. EVER.
“At best, you “see” them for a few months.”
Based on his posts, this has not been Colonialista’s experience for 20 years.
You might just be confusing “past experience” with “shitty people in general”.
Inexperience is not a determiner of future loyalty.
“Inexperience is not a determiner of future loyalty.”
However demands for inexperience may well be a sign of insecurity, not always but often.
Yay, we only got more than two faithful naughty decades of track record and you got your certainty because you know better. Somehow I feel secure.
The virgin thing and the youth thing and looking for certain secondary sex characteristics as a sign of health and fecundity is very old. It’s about passing on one’s genetics and putting all one’s life force into raising same vs someone else’s offspring. Genetics (testing, understanding) and reliable birth control have only barely existed in the course of human evolution. If for 199,980 years, give or take, big boobs meant a well fed child with a better chance at life and big hips meant a mate that probably won’t die giving birth. It’s going to take time for that former reality to fade in how mates are best selected. How much is anyone’s guess until there is actual data. Some things might always be an issue. It turns out many of these things on the “old fashioned” check list are related to health, probability of fidelity, fecundity and even gene expression. For example telegony was thought to be a superstition until they proved it with fruit flies. Molecules of the semen of the first mate are absorbed by the female’s immature eggs. The future offspring are genetically influenced. Badaboom. Is this true for humans, and is it only the man that snatches virginity or does every partner leave a legacy? Does it ultimately matter in modern society? These are questions time will answer but I certainly don’t blame the men for deeply ingrained darwinian drivers any more than I think virginity is a marker for sexual repression or frigidity (take for example Colonialista’s #1 and #5 – and potentially #2 have nothing to do with virginity).
You missed my point. I think it is madness to plunge into a life long commitment without knowing if you’re compatible. You never know 100%, but for people like I, the more you know the better. Again some people luck out, they marry their first love and live happily ever after. Great, more power to them. Others want to know their potential spouse much better before they make a commitment… and you never truly know a virgin. Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited.
Very interesting! Quite a bit of Biblical text is found to have fundamental biological logic behind it. … and … modern science/technology have mitigated many of those Biblical imperatives. Birth control only became reliable and widely available for the last 60years. That’s a lonnnnnng human history with sex being inexorably linked to pregnancy (the ultimate human responsibility). Not to mention venerial disease. How many famous historic figures died of syphilis? Perhaps there was a common sense, Biblical, epidemiological admonition for men to keep their peckers from falling off, and infecting faithful wives?
Re virginity; I would say just don’t be a slute. To me … a virtuous woman is one who doesn’t sleep around purely recreationally prior to marriage. Kind of cheapens the beauty of sex … which I insist is about 90% mental/emotional … 10% physical.
I’d say it is 50-50. But there is nothing wrong with just 50 if no commitments are broken or implied and both participants are interested in just 50.
There’s the rub (pun intended) … “both interested in just 50”. In my personal experience … the odds of that actually happening are very long indeed.
In my experience the odds of that happing weren’t particularly long in the 90s, maybe things changed since then. Don’t know, and am no longer interested in finding out.
I wouldn’t know about the 90’s or how things have changed, since I’ve been (mostly) happily married since 1982. I suppose I am a sexual outlier in the modern world as I am fiercely monogamous and loyal. Not to psychoanalyze myself, but perhaps this is due to my parents early divorce and my mothers abandonment of her children. That hurt so much, that I don’t believe ANY child (esp. my own) should be exposed to that. However, prior to marriage … let’s just say that I wasn’t a “model Christian” in that regard. I do LOVE the female form … and all those fun bits and pieces. I am rabidly heteroNORMative.
Hear ya load and clear, you have just checked quite a few boxes of my life story…
In my experience, this is a far more realistic evaluation:
Also: if her wedding day is going to be some HUGE event – and some women claim it is THE day of their life – then boy, you better run. I know of a guy whose future wife turned down a very large house down payment that she could have taken from her parents instead of the big wedding they ended up getting. Both fools.
” . . . some women claim it is THE day of their life – then boy . . .”
. . . by definition every day thereafter is downhill. Think about that.
I’ve often wondered why the emphasis on a wedding–the bigger and flashier the better–considering the chances that the marriage will last more than 5 years.
Just over 40 years ago, I attended a wedding. I knew him from my freshman days and she seemed to be a nice young lady. It turned out that they split up less than 4 years later. What was the point?
It’s a class and women’s circle status thing. The modern big wedding isn’t traditional, it’s faux Royal. A conspicuous display of being a higher social class than they really are, which creates actual social status within the circle.
It doesn’t matter if they get divorced 4 years later, the wedding was the thing and it isn’t taken back by mere divorce. Some women like to have lots of them for even more social status bonus points.
Remember the words of Zsa Zsa: “I’m a housekeeper. Whenever I get divorced, I keep the house.”
The modern big wedding isn’t traditional, it’s faux Royal. A conspicuous display of being a higher social class than they really are, which creates actual social status within the circle.
Yup. It was like that in the town I grew up in. (That place was so small during the time I lived there that people often knew what one had for breakfast.) The wedding business there became much like the nuclear arms race and that competition could have been different families, friends, relatives, or even siblings. Whoever had the biggest whoop-up, the largest number of bridesmaids, or the fanciest gown was the winner.
I got to see some of that arms race first hand. My mother did some sewing on the side and she made a lot of wedding gowns as well as bridesmaid dresses. The stories I heard….
“Also: if her wedding day is going to be some HUGE event – …. – then boy, you better run. ”
Run far, run fast, burn every bridge, lay minefields behind you, change identity.
A number of years ago, I attended a wedding and it came time to the traditional tossing of the bride’s garter. The groom flung it into the crowd and the thing was heading at me like an incoming Scud missile. Fortunately, someone else caught it, and I breathed a sigh of relief, thinking “Better you than me, mate.”
Ha! Your “iron dome” took it out!
Which makes me think that some ‘University’ should study the multiple organisms found on the average Brides garter … ewwww!
I’ve done wedding photography for the BIG deals type. As soon as I hear “big wedding” I get into the personalities of the wedding party real quick and deep.
Bridezilla and Mother of the Bride are realities, not nifty horror movie titles. Bad as they are, the Event Coordinator is the beast in the sheep’s clothing.
I’ve walked away from some big contracts after the interviews, I need my sanity and health more than I need their money. There was always a more pleasant contract for the same time anyway. It was a paying hobby, so it had to be fun for me. Don’t even have wedding photography on my website anymore.
Don’t like attending big weddings either, not good at handling the phony anymore. Comes with age and experience.
For the topic: Married 41 years to my last high school sweetheart. Nothing else on the list really matters.
On the open market that girl would fetch anywhere from $800,000 to $2.7 million.
Although the market would be in a traditional location for such a traditional transaction.
“pricing” a female, isn’t that what Sikhs and mooslimbs do???
I hope this thread is a joke cappy, as I see it’s just bull$hit
This is a joke for rich people. So step to the sidelines.
The operative to finding the one can be summed up this way.
There may be something that got you attracted to the other person but consider the other features they have and ask if you can live with that the rest of your life.
It could be a niggling little habit that you didn’t pay any attention to at the beginning, but its the one that some day you will bring up at exactly the wrong time.
Wrt to the thread title, there are people that try very hard to be something they are not to the point they forget how to be themselves. A sjw has a tendency toward pretense and tries to be something they think the potential partner desires.
Its a recipe for a short union.
Smart? – like. Has money? – I should be so lucky (so should she), but okay – like. Takes no guff from nobody? – I find I really like girls who stand-up for themselves; all my favourite video game girls kick @$$ and take names – so yeah, like (red hair would be nice too).
Virgin? – what business is that of mine? She’s with me, and we get along fine – and I’ll be watching for strays and unexplained absences; I know she’ll be watching me for same. And if we’re still together 39 years from now, with grandkids, so much the better. Maybe I’m the “denatured boy” (oops – really dated myself with that one; was my face red!), but I always sorta’ thought a marriage license was an arrangement for living together, not a woman’s title deed.
She sees it that way too, and she’s got no time for “the Crusher” – been a good 39 years.
“I always sorta’ thought a marriage license was an arrangement for living together . . .”
You would be incorrect. A marriage license is a certificate of license from the state permitting a marriage to be formed. A marriage is not an arrangement for living together – living together is not even a required element of marriage. A marriage is an arrangement for inheritance.
We’ll decide that – you got 39 years on yours? 😉
Your response is non sequitur. I said nothing subject to opinion or directed at how you make your living arrangements.
Just the facts, which are arranged by law.
– DELETED – life`s too short.
It took me 18 years to find the right one…
hah, finally met her in a bar – imagine dat eh..??
April 05, ’89
Me 36, a Dutch Canadian – She 30, an Argentinian Calabrese, both of us immigrants – Engaged 2 weeks later.
Married 8 mo. later – Small Low cost Wedding – 80 guests. I helped Her dad make the vino – wicked hootch – good time had by all..!!
Wedding dress was a beautifully remade, by her mom, 2nd hand one.
No marital change since – No regrets whatsoever. Great partner & best Friend(s). 2 Awesome beautiful Adult Girls
Conservatives all.
Steakman – Congratulations. It sounds like you won the life lottery!
I’m finding that some of the ideas on here of what conservative women should or shouldn’t be would be pretty limited if I bought into the nonsense. I don’t believe in one mold for all conservative women. I’m happy you found your happiness.
What kind of horribly insecure adult would require their partner to be a virgin?
I think tattoos are sexy as hell, and I like an ambitious woman who can look after herself.
I find it odd that so many commenters and contributors here seem to want a docile, subservient little housewife… on a blog started and run by a strong, opinionated woman.
It’s the free market at work, why so socialist?
WhoDat – Agreed.
I don’t understand that tattoo craze.
Especially tattoos on women, it does not make them look better or cooler or more attractive, it makes them look like damaged goods, used damaged goods,
and tattoos are unfeminine.
yeah unfeminine.
and when a woman has many tattoos, like the entire arm covered it looks like one of those people who survived a fire but their skin is all burned and half scarred and will never look normal again
from a hundred feet away a fully tattooed arm looks the same as a burn victim
and piercings…oh my god the horror! especially a nose piercing…all it does is make me think of the snot and boogers caught in the earring
why the hell would anyone pierce their face, they eyebrow, their lip or their nose?
they look like crazy people who escaped the crazy house
and pierce their genitals?
why ??????
pardon the graphic details but if I am going to pleasure a woman I do not want metal hardware to be in the way…that is like eating soup and find nuts and bolts in your soup
what the hell are piercings doing on your genitals???
has everyone lost their freakin minds???????
in some rare case tattoos in small number may look good on a man who is very muscular, but that is it
piercings look good on nobody they just look like you have mental problems
the pink, green or blue hair confirms it
+100
“Especially tattoos on women, it does not make them look better or cooler or more attractive, it makes them look like damaged goods, used damaged goods,”
Sadly, I work with too many women who have added too many tattoos. Yuck!
Well those are some points to check out but none of them is a huge value add. Here are a few which are. Wants to have kids. Likes dogs. Has a sense of humour. Can argue a point but not quarrel. Is a bit vain. As smart or smarter than you are. Has really good manners. Reads books.
The list is endless and highly personal. And, I am afraid, it is a very inefficient market. So price is driven by scarcity. There are lots of women, and lots of men, out there; but there is a diminishing small number who will hit your idiocentric criteria. If you find one… Marry her.
Thirty four years of friendship and real life with my sweet wife, and neither of us have tattoos or fishing tackle on our faces. As for intimacy, it is best when kept private and, well, intimate. Priceless and time tested mature love. Try it.
I don’t know, but it definitely has value. Two of our four are successfully and happily married meeting through their university affiliated days but the remaining two have had a succession of bad experiences so much so that they have asked for our help/guidance/advice in helping them find life mates who want to build a family and supportive structure like the one they were raised in.
We are looking at trying to find connections for them and the most promising sources all seem to be outside of the US and Canada.
Your response is non sequitur. I said nothing subject to opinion or directed at how you make your living arrangements.
Just the facts, which are arranged by law.
“What’s the Market Value of a Non-Leftist, Traditional Woman?”
Are you buying a slave, Aaron? We don’t do slavery anymore and women have their own ideas, these days. No tattoos and a virgin, all that says is you want a blank slate to impose your weak will on. Not to worry, the Japanese are working hard on lifelike robots that will meet your every pathetic desire soon enough.
Ha! You miss the point of his post entirely.
And if you know anything about Aaron, you will know he has huge respect for women.
What I know about Aaron is he’s the poster boy for the MGTOW movement and his “respect” for women is self-serving. Now he probably doesn’t think “self-serving” is an insult considering every post of his includes some level of not-so-humble brag about how successful he is and how women only leech of “good” men like him. Why he gets to use this platform to spew his low-level hatred is beyond me, but I guess I’m just weird for thinking a woman like Kate is capable of making her own decisions.
Frankly, I am tired of reading Aaron’s self-serving screeds about his own brilliance, and his skill as ballroom dancer. It’s pathetic. Worse, though, is his pleading for us to buy his books. “Captain Capitalism” indeed.
Lighten up. Truly.
Damn. When the Captain nails it he really nails it.
He says the value of such woman has gone up exponentially. He is absolutely correct and it is something I have explained to my daughter.
My daughter is tattoo and piercing free (except for the standard ear piercing in each ear for earings), conservative, dresses nicely, hard working, cares about how she looks, etc. And I remind her from time to time that decent successful men will kill for such a woman today.
She just has to play the field a little longer to see which male admirers are actually getting somewhere in life.
Speaking of tattoos, why do some woman do that to themselves?
Was in the grocery store last week and saw a woman who was stunningly attractive, beautiful skirt, slender, feminine manner. Was a sheer pleasure to admire her from a distance. And then she turned and one of her arms was completely covered in tattoos. Man how that instantly changes the appearance of a woman for the worse!
Do young women not realize how many men they exclude from possible mates when they ruin their bodies like that?
Thankfully my daughter and her friends are all tattoo free and have zero interest in disfiguring themselves like that.
If this is a genuine question, I guess I have my reasons for each of my tattoos. I have my mate. I am 100% good with excluding potential other mates with my tattoos. He loves them. I love them.
Not everyone does. I get that.
“Speaking of tattoos, why do some woman do that to themselves?” I can answer that –
“Because they want to.”
Their face – and I imagine they care more about what THEY find attractive, than what YOU do. Women are funny like that! =D
Women who are over tattooed, over pierced, obese, strange hair, leftist, constant anger, is the real reason for ED in men.
women will pay $90 for a tiny little jar that contains about a teaspoon of some cream/lotion that will keep the skin on their face young, but they will cover their arms and legs with large ugly tattoos that make their skin repulsive and makes it look old and worned out.
That is irrational , illogical
they spend a fortune to keep their face young looking and spend money self mutilating the rest of their body with tattoos and piercings
Feminism gave women liberty, freedom, choices, and women chose to self mutilate , to destroy their body.
In the next installment: What employed, debt free, tattoo free, and, let’s just say virtuous women, want in a man.
A self ascribed asshole isn’t going to cut it.
Tattoos on a woman is like paint on a house; not really necessary, but when done right, it looks good.
Have had the attention of different women over the years, and what was on the inside was important, not the outside.
So long as she is happy and content with herself, she will make you more happy and content with yourself.
debt free? nope.
virgin? ha ha ha !!!!
tat free? except for the HUGE one on my back, a Cdn flag on the front of my left shoulder, a peace sign extolling peaceMAKERS on my right thigh aaaaaand a cute little combined oriental zodiac on my right abdomen
guess I need not worry about being approached by some besuited pencil neck.
You probably dodged a bullet, there… Hahaha!
Saved by your tattoos and free will!
you do know the distinction between the blue helmeted peace ‘keepers’ and a peaceMAKER?
what does it take when incoming ordnance and enemy personnel are all over the place?
a peace MAKER.
and what exactly does the peaceMAKER do about this?
lots of things.
among them ‘a rain of ruin the likes of which’.
consult Wm T Sherman regarding his most widely (that is, roughly 100 miles wide) known example of MAKING the peace.
the peace sign tat has this wording entwined in the ‘spokes’:
“blessed are the peacemakers”
Mt 5:9
the concept is biblical. those who put it on the line, those who kill every enemy combatant that lines up in the crosshairs, the bombardiers who instinctively ‘feel’ when its the exact correct moment to adjust for wind, the factory workers who do overtime to make sure every artillery shell has the exact consistent amount of propellant etc etc are all peaceMAKERS.
it’s biblical. read it yourself, I just gave the reference. Ive seen it worded other ways but never ‘blessed are the peacekeepers’.
crikey, that doesnt even sound right . . . . .
and note, the passage is in the NT, so it cant be brushed aside as of the ‘old covenant’.
Paging Allan S. Allan S. please come for your spouse.
Allan S. please come get your spouse.
Trying to do some economic research here and would very much appreciate your insights and participation.
Priceless
You beat me to it… though I would have referenced it as the MasterCard advertising tagline.
“employed”
Why isn’t she cooking and helping to take care of the younger kids in the family?
You do other stuff.
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I would say she’s worth about half your earnings at 35-45 given that’s otherwise when you’d be getting divorced.
I have been married to an educated conservative woman for 42 years. No drugs and only a social drinker. She’s smart, hard-working career oriented, always dresses nicely, has no tattoos, is not fat, doesn’t use bad language, is friendly a polite to everyone, (even leftists) takes shit from no one!
That is what I like and respect in a woman.
I wouldn’t trade her for ten leftist whacks no matter how pretty or cool or hip … which they usually are not. They are usually in need of therapy.
Hope that helped.
You’re a lucky man.
I’ve been married to a slightly different version than yours … since 1982. My wife is as sweet as can be, and can fall prey to those who prey on such good hearted souls. I have had to “encourage” her to stand up for her rights, her opinions, and not get trampled in this dog-eat-dog world. I have also had to slowly convert her to a rabid right winger … by simply exposing her to critical thinking and truth … over shallow “feel good” policies that do more harm than good. Her sweet nature skews toward the liberals who promise all manner of won-der-ful goodies … until she learns who gets HURT in the process.
And she is “aging” much better than her nasty, bitter, leftist RESISTer sister. All that HATE is inscribed on her sisters face and body, despite her veganism and obsessive personal attention. My wife looks great for a 61yo! Remember those anti-smoking advertisements, where “smokers face” was used to deter smoking? The conservatives need to run a similar ad campaign (illustrating the angry, ugly, contorted, faces of unhinged liberal women) with the tagline … liberalism RUINS your looks. Like a meth-face covered in sores.
Employed = check
Debt free= check
I love my tattoos.
I would think that “virginity” would only hold value if both partners remain chaste and value it. As a conservative woman, I don’t put a lot of value in hypocritical double standards.
I would think that it would be pretty important to a man to ensure he isn’t attaching himself to a leech, even if financially dependent might fall into the “traditional” category. Market wise, men are waaaay more vulnerable financially to women with “traditional” standards of who ends up on the financial hook. If I were a guy, I would be wary. Both parties need to go into a relationship with eyes wide open about who gets screwed and how if the relationship ends. Traditionally, if that is what we are valuing here, women can kneecap a guy financially if he is the sole provider.
I am non-leftist to the core, but experience has taught me to pick and choose from the traditional pile. It has served both me and my husband well, lo these many years.
This is how deep the rot goes, Gentlemen. Be careful out there.
Hahaha! I’m the rot? Fair enough, then…
One person’s opinion …
To the extent that you position yourself as a non-leftist, conservative woman while reading off talking points from a 1970’s “progressive” feminist flash card deck yes. If you hadn’t done that I wouldn’t have taken any particular notice of your comment. As we used to say back in the day, “Do your own thing.” But if you are conserving something, it’s Betty Friedan.
Disclaimer of Bias: I am not a conservative or traditionalist either, but I know one when I see one, and I ain’t lookin’ at one.
Young men looking for a conservative woman to settle down and have children with, Aaron put “no tattoos” on the list for a reason beyond aesthetics. They are a dead giveaway for the faux-conservative, feminist woman. Remember this and you can avoid being blindsided months into a relationship when she suddenly starts to sound like a recording of Gloria Steinem.
I was more responding to Aaron’s “Market Value” question. Since I’m married and believe in small government and individual values as opposed to “group/identity” based values, I am no leftist.
I was really just suggesting that some of the more traditional ideals of women can end up being financially costly to a man. I’m not saying that I have or would do it, as I am actually independent, apparently negating my conservative credibility, but I thought it could factor in to his Market Value analysis.
Market wise, $3,400 per month in child support and alimony would be a negative outcome in my books. If I were a man. And if I were using such things to value women. Traditional can have its drawbacks.
Based on my beliefs and voting history, I am conservative. Based on my tattoos and lack of virginity, clearly I’m somewhere between NDP and Green Party.
“I was really just suggesting that some of the more traditional ideals of women can end up being financially costly to a man.”
That is correct, but I note that when those ideals were part of the tradition men got some compensatory authority to go along with the responsibility, the so called “oppression” of women. In the current social milieu the responsibilities have been ramped up to the level of women’s fantasy ideals, while the authority has been stripped.
“Based on my beliefs and voting history, I am conservative. Based on my tattoos and lack of virginity, clearly I’m somewhere between NDP and Green Party.”
Right. A fairly typical woman of the current age who is so imbued with progressive ideas that she has no idea how far to the traditional left she really is, and so can position herself as a “conservative” because she wishes to conserve the point of “progress” 20 years ago.
You are correct; the compensatory authority is gone. Legally so. Alas, for the good old days.
So, if we are operating in the modern age, with the current legal rights, and not subject to sharia law, then, yes, I am still conservative.
And if you wish to conserve the point of being “conservative” to some ideal whose time passed more than 60 years ago, you will find the conservative movement to be quite limited also.
Aaaaaaaand, that’s where I came in to this movie.
Agreed. You tried to warn others of us tree hugging hippies posing as “not-leftists” by nature of our current financial and social independence.
Semantics aside, I am likely still going to refer to myself as conservative, and I’ll even vote that way for as long as I am at leisure to do so under this current lax regime.
Wish I could upvote kfg’s bullseye-splitting comments above and below. No male traditionalist is pining for a woman with “financial and social independence” to have a long-term, child-bearing relationship with. He wants his genes to live on and his kids to grow up happy and healthy in a traditional environment. He doesn’t care about her “small government” beliefs.
In fact, he knows his traditionalism is only going to make a resurgence by fellow statists promoting those horrible “group/identity based values”, anyway.
So, to the traditional man, these allusions to “sharia law” and “60 years ago” are actually features, not bugs. Who cares how much she likes “muh free market”? Every corporation today promotes the same globo-homo agenda that every traditional man like himself hates. The fact she puts any priority on political opinions at all is the first red flag.
If women are just as capable as men in the political realm (voting, running for office), then they are at best, redundant. And that’s okay. She *could* just do her biological duty and raise the next generation if she is so “conservative”. An actual conservative wouldn’t be offended by that. Or she could just come to terms with her inbred “leftism” she hates so much. Seeing as she isn’t a big fan of purity anyway, the diverging convictions shouldn’t be a bother for her.
To be fair, the amount of propaganda catapulted at women by the rootless, cosmopolitan, international European-style socialist elite for the last 100+ years, it’s practically a miracle that any are even remotely close to traditional. *Kate exempt from all the above, hail the queen
“No male traditionalist is pining for a woman with “financial and social independence” to have a long-term, child-bearing relationship with.”
I included it as relevant based on the fact that being employed/debt free was one of Aaron’s markers. While it may be preferable to a male traditionalist, I was pointing out that it can and will be financially crippling in the event that the man’s traditionalist charms don’t entice her to stay in the marriage.
Not just financially inconvenient, I mean life altering.
While your pining for the conservative lifestyles of the past may provide you emotional comfort, I have seen great men brought to their knees by believing that somehow their marriage was indestructible.
Obviously, your mileage may vary. And best of luck to the lucky woman who lands you. May she ever embrace your 1940’s ideals of a pure conservative woman…
One out of three but she’s speeeeeshul.
AWALT.
Tattoos on a woman are a very large neon sign saying “I’m desperate for attention, I like pain, and I have a very short future time horizon when making permanent life choices”.
It will be interesting to see how things will be 50 years from now. Imagine all those seniors homes filled with tattooed elderly women…..
Given that social security will collapse in less than 50 years I would not worry about too many senior homes …
there will be a new game called quess what the tatoo was.
Hahaha! I guess I will have to give up my modelling career once I hit the senior’s homes…
All kidding aside, my tattoos mean something to me and my husband. Since I am not planning for a future as a nude model, it won’t affect my ability to earn a living. In my opinion, if you find the right woman for you, and all that is holding you back is that she has a flower on her shoulder or some such nonsense, you might miss out. Love is pretty great, regardless of people’s imperfections. Or maybe because of them. Either way, I landed a winner with my husband and I have zero regrets about my “lowered market value”, or the hit I will take to my conservative credentials 🙂
Looking at it at a more fundamental level, body modification is not conservative, it is transformative.
Traditionally a tattoo was given (NOT gotten) to symbolize a personal transformation that had already taken place, such as a Rite of Passage into adulthood or being accepted into a guild. In the 1600s a tattoo on a European signified that the bearer had traveled under sail ’round the horn and to the South Sea islands. A century or so later, after Europeans had learned the art of tattooing themselves and so you didn’t have to go to the South Seas to get one, the standard was relaxed to having crossed the “line” (equator) under sail.
That’s why in Europe tattoos have been traditionally associated with sailors. And they had to earn them. A tattoo not earned is a form of stolen valor.
Good news. My valor is genuine, based on this rule of maritime law!
Good girl.
There are tattoos … then there are tattoos. A woman with a cute flower on her ankle hasn’t really besmirched God’s creation … but a woman with a ‘sleeve’ creeps me out. It seems to me that most people who perform body modification, are consciously or subconsciously mocking God by inscribing graffiti on his canvas. Just my opinion, but I don’t HATE tattooed people.
And TBH … I’ve never really “gotten” the whole “virginity” thing. What does that mean anyway? A totally intact hymen? Partially intact? Not to be gross, but I doubt my own daughter had much of a hymen by age 12 from playing competitive soccer (and perhaps some … uh … personal exploration). So what? I’ve never understood the obsession. It seems a weird misogynist thing … like Muslims tenting their women or having the Imam do a “virginity check” … gross!
Her price is far above rubies. Proverbs 31:10. You would do well to read the description of the virtuous woman in full (Prov. 31:10-31).
Perhaps higher mathematics can be more specific than Solomon. But his accounting is good enough for me.
Debt free? Yes.
No tats? Yes
Virgin? What, are you 15? No thanks, I like naughty girls.
Which is perfectly natural . . . until you start thinking about marrying one.
Heaven forbid! Then you would be STUCK married to someone you enjoy having sex with…
Precisely.
Amen! The corollary to that is painfully obvious.
Prior to reliable birth control, there may have been some element of self preservation. But in this day and age, few folks are really looking for a ‘Surprise!’ (Wait…what?! You hate sex?)
…or
(Wait…what?! you have a penis…too?)
Or “I will not do that, I kiss my children with those lips”
Or “Not like that, turn off the lights at least”
Or a 29 day long headache every 28 days.
Or “After children I lost interest in sex…”
Or “Not there eeeeeeew”
Married one more than two decades ago (no not because of pregnancy). Have always been faithful. Neither of us were saints before.
Agreed. Idealism can be a pretty long life sentence.
Character and compatibility all the way.
A life sentence combined with torture for kids.
Before allowing people to get married I would require them to live together under one roof for at least a year. Then ask if they still want to do that. You’d cut the divorce rate by half.
Actually, strictly in terms of divorce rate, traditional arranged marriages are the most durable and living together first the least.
Yes of course arranged marriages do not end in divorce. My property cannot divorce me either.
Hahahahaha! Agreed. If you have no say in the marriage, you likely don’t have a lot of say in the divorce…
Yup. When she starts stepping out on you with a drug dealing bimboy, and they start planning together how they are going to spend her cut of your money, you’ll start wondering whether that naughty girl was worth it…
Don’t get me wrong – I love “naughty” girls too – they are a total riot! But they are NOT marriage material. Not ever. At best, you “see” them for a few months. Till you start banging one of their hot friends. But you NEVER let them move in. EVER.
“At best, you “see” them for a few months.”
Based on his posts, this has not been Colonialista’s experience for 20 years.
You might just be confusing “past experience” with “shitty people in general”.
Inexperience is not a determiner of future loyalty.
“Inexperience is not a determiner of future loyalty.”
However demands for inexperience may well be a sign of insecurity, not always but often.
Yay, we only got more than two faithful naughty decades of track record and you got your certainty because you know better. Somehow I feel secure.
The virgin thing and the youth thing and looking for certain secondary sex characteristics as a sign of health and fecundity is very old. It’s about passing on one’s genetics and putting all one’s life force into raising same vs someone else’s offspring. Genetics (testing, understanding) and reliable birth control have only barely existed in the course of human evolution. If for 199,980 years, give or take, big boobs meant a well fed child with a better chance at life and big hips meant a mate that probably won’t die giving birth. It’s going to take time for that former reality to fade in how mates are best selected. How much is anyone’s guess until there is actual data. Some things might always be an issue. It turns out many of these things on the “old fashioned” check list are related to health, probability of fidelity, fecundity and even gene expression. For example telegony was thought to be a superstition until they proved it with fruit flies. Molecules of the semen of the first mate are absorbed by the female’s immature eggs. The future offspring are genetically influenced. Badaboom. Is this true for humans, and is it only the man that snatches virginity or does every partner leave a legacy? Does it ultimately matter in modern society? These are questions time will answer but I certainly don’t blame the men for deeply ingrained darwinian drivers any more than I think virginity is a marker for sexual repression or frigidity (take for example Colonialista’s #1 and #5 – and potentially #2 have nothing to do with virginity).
You missed my point. I think it is madness to plunge into a life long commitment without knowing if you’re compatible. You never know 100%, but for people like I, the more you know the better. Again some people luck out, they marry their first love and live happily ever after. Great, more power to them. Others want to know their potential spouse much better before they make a commitment… and you never truly know a virgin. Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited.
Very interesting! Quite a bit of Biblical text is found to have fundamental biological logic behind it. … and … modern science/technology have mitigated many of those Biblical imperatives. Birth control only became reliable and widely available for the last 60years. That’s a lonnnnnng human history with sex being inexorably linked to pregnancy (the ultimate human responsibility). Not to mention venerial disease. How many famous historic figures died of syphilis? Perhaps there was a common sense, Biblical, epidemiological admonition for men to keep their peckers from falling off, and infecting faithful wives?
Re virginity; I would say just don’t be a slute. To me … a virtuous woman is one who doesn’t sleep around purely recreationally prior to marriage. Kind of cheapens the beauty of sex … which I insist is about 90% mental/emotional … 10% physical.
I’d say it is 50-50. But there is nothing wrong with just 50 if no commitments are broken or implied and both participants are interested in just 50.
There’s the rub (pun intended) … “both interested in just 50”. In my personal experience … the odds of that actually happening are very long indeed.
In my experience the odds of that happing weren’t particularly long in the 90s, maybe things changed since then. Don’t know, and am no longer interested in finding out.
I wouldn’t know about the 90’s or how things have changed, since I’ve been (mostly) happily married since 1982. I suppose I am a sexual outlier in the modern world as I am fiercely monogamous and loyal. Not to psychoanalyze myself, but perhaps this is due to my parents early divorce and my mothers abandonment of her children. That hurt so much, that I don’t believe ANY child (esp. my own) should be exposed to that. However, prior to marriage … let’s just say that I wasn’t a “model Christian” in that regard. I do LOVE the female form … and all those fun bits and pieces. I am rabidly heteroNORMative.
Hear ya load and clear, you have just checked quite a few boxes of my life story…
In my experience, this is a far more realistic evaluation:
http://math.bu.edu/people/murad/Why_I_Will_Never_Have_a_Girlfriend.htm
At least it reduces the possibility of meeting someone like this:
https://www.craigslist.org/about/best/phi/471580402.html
Also: if her wedding day is going to be some HUGE event – and some women claim it is THE day of their life – then boy, you better run. I know of a guy whose future wife turned down a very large house down payment that she could have taken from her parents instead of the big wedding they ended up getting. Both fools.
” . . . some women claim it is THE day of their life – then boy . . .”
. . . by definition every day thereafter is downhill. Think about that.
I’ve often wondered why the emphasis on a wedding–the bigger and flashier the better–considering the chances that the marriage will last more than 5 years.
Just over 40 years ago, I attended a wedding. I knew him from my freshman days and she seemed to be a nice young lady. It turned out that they split up less than 4 years later. What was the point?
It’s a class and women’s circle status thing. The modern big wedding isn’t traditional, it’s faux Royal. A conspicuous display of being a higher social class than they really are, which creates actual social status within the circle.
It doesn’t matter if they get divorced 4 years later, the wedding was the thing and it isn’t taken back by mere divorce. Some women like to have lots of them for even more social status bonus points.
Remember the words of Zsa Zsa: “I’m a housekeeper. Whenever I get divorced, I keep the house.”
The modern big wedding isn’t traditional, it’s faux Royal. A conspicuous display of being a higher social class than they really are, which creates actual social status within the circle.
Yup. It was like that in the town I grew up in. (That place was so small during the time I lived there that people often knew what one had for breakfast.) The wedding business there became much like the nuclear arms race and that competition could have been different families, friends, relatives, or even siblings. Whoever had the biggest whoop-up, the largest number of bridesmaids, or the fanciest gown was the winner.
I got to see some of that arms race first hand. My mother did some sewing on the side and she made a lot of wedding gowns as well as bridesmaid dresses. The stories I heard….
“Also: if her wedding day is going to be some HUGE event – …. – then boy, you better run. ”
Run far, run fast, burn every bridge, lay minefields behind you, change identity.
A number of years ago, I attended a wedding and it came time to the traditional tossing of the bride’s garter. The groom flung it into the crowd and the thing was heading at me like an incoming Scud missile. Fortunately, someone else caught it, and I breathed a sigh of relief, thinking “Better you than me, mate.”
Ha! Your “iron dome” took it out!
Which makes me think that some ‘University’ should study the multiple organisms found on the average Brides garter … ewwww!
I’ve done wedding photography for the BIG deals type. As soon as I hear “big wedding” I get into the personalities of the wedding party real quick and deep.
Bridezilla and Mother of the Bride are realities, not nifty horror movie titles. Bad as they are, the Event Coordinator is the beast in the sheep’s clothing.
I’ve walked away from some big contracts after the interviews, I need my sanity and health more than I need their money. There was always a more pleasant contract for the same time anyway. It was a paying hobby, so it had to be fun for me. Don’t even have wedding photography on my website anymore.
Don’t like attending big weddings either, not good at handling the phony anymore. Comes with age and experience.
For the topic: Married 41 years to my last high school sweetheart. Nothing else on the list really matters.
On the open market that girl would fetch anywhere from $800,000 to $2.7 million.
Although the market would be in a traditional location for such a traditional transaction.
“pricing” a female, isn’t that what Sikhs and mooslimbs do???
I hope this thread is a joke cappy, as I see it’s just bull$hit
This is a joke for rich people. So step to the sidelines.
The operative to finding the one can be summed up this way.
There may be something that got you attracted to the other person but consider the other features they have and ask if you can live with that the rest of your life.
It could be a niggling little habit that you didn’t pay any attention to at the beginning, but its the one that some day you will bring up at exactly the wrong time.
Wrt to the thread title, there are people that try very hard to be something they are not to the point they forget how to be themselves. A sjw has a tendency toward pretense and tries to be something they think the potential partner desires.
Its a recipe for a short union.
Smart? – like. Has money? – I should be so lucky (so should she), but okay – like. Takes no guff from nobody? – I find I really like girls who stand-up for themselves; all my favourite video game girls kick @$$ and take names – so yeah, like (red hair would be nice too).
Virgin? – what business is that of mine? She’s with me, and we get along fine – and I’ll be watching for strays and unexplained absences; I know she’ll be watching me for same. And if we’re still together 39 years from now, with grandkids, so much the better. Maybe I’m the “denatured boy” (oops – really dated myself with that one; was my face red!), but I always sorta’ thought a marriage license was an arrangement for living together, not a woman’s title deed.
She sees it that way too, and she’s got no time for “the Crusher” – been a good 39 years.
“I always sorta’ thought a marriage license was an arrangement for living together . . .”
You would be incorrect. A marriage license is a certificate of license from the state permitting a marriage to be formed. A marriage is not an arrangement for living together – living together is not even a required element of marriage. A marriage is an arrangement for inheritance.
We’ll decide that – you got 39 years on yours? 😉
Your response is non sequitur. I said nothing subject to opinion or directed at how you make your living arrangements.
Just the facts, which are arranged by law.
– DELETED – life`s too short.
It took me 18 years to find the right one…
hah, finally met her in a bar – imagine dat eh..??
April 05, ’89
Me 36, a Dutch Canadian – She 30, an Argentinian Calabrese, both of us immigrants – Engaged 2 weeks later.
Married 8 mo. later – Small Low cost Wedding – 80 guests. I helped Her dad make the vino – wicked hootch – good time had by all..!!
Wedding dress was a beautifully remade, by her mom, 2nd hand one.
No marital change since – No regrets whatsoever. Great partner & best Friend(s). 2 Awesome beautiful Adult Girls
Conservatives all.
Steakman – Congratulations. It sounds like you won the life lottery!
I’m finding that some of the ideas on here of what conservative women should or shouldn’t be would be pretty limited if I bought into the nonsense. I don’t believe in one mold for all conservative women. I’m happy you found your happiness.
Change the picture
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/04/article-0-12780C61000005DC-59_306x478.jpg
All your required qualifiers intact.
I think you’re missing something.
What kind of horribly insecure adult would require their partner to be a virgin?
I think tattoos are sexy as hell, and I like an ambitious woman who can look after herself.
I find it odd that so many commenters and contributors here seem to want a docile, subservient little housewife… on a blog started and run by a strong, opinionated woman.
It’s the free market at work, why so socialist?
WhoDat – Agreed.
I don’t understand that tattoo craze.
Especially tattoos on women, it does not make them look better or cooler or more attractive, it makes them look like damaged goods, used damaged goods,
and tattoos are unfeminine.
yeah unfeminine.
and when a woman has many tattoos, like the entire arm covered it looks like one of those people who survived a fire but their skin is all burned and half scarred and will never look normal again
from a hundred feet away a fully tattooed arm looks the same as a burn victim
and piercings…oh my god the horror! especially a nose piercing…all it does is make me think of the snot and boogers caught in the earring
why the hell would anyone pierce their face, they eyebrow, their lip or their nose?
they look like crazy people who escaped the crazy house
and pierce their genitals?
why ??????
pardon the graphic details but if I am going to pleasure a woman I do not want metal hardware to be in the way…that is like eating soup and find nuts and bolts in your soup
what the hell are piercings doing on your genitals???
has everyone lost their freakin minds???????
in some rare case tattoos in small number may look good on a man who is very muscular, but that is it
piercings look good on nobody they just look like you have mental problems
the pink, green or blue hair confirms it
+100
“Especially tattoos on women, it does not make them look better or cooler or more attractive, it makes them look like damaged goods, used damaged goods,”
Sadly, I work with too many women who have added too many tattoos. Yuck!
Well those are some points to check out but none of them is a huge value add. Here are a few which are. Wants to have kids. Likes dogs. Has a sense of humour. Can argue a point but not quarrel. Is a bit vain. As smart or smarter than you are. Has really good manners. Reads books.
The list is endless and highly personal. And, I am afraid, it is a very inefficient market. So price is driven by scarcity. There are lots of women, and lots of men, out there; but there is a diminishing small number who will hit your idiocentric criteria. If you find one… Marry her.
Thirty four years of friendship and real life with my sweet wife, and neither of us have tattoos or fishing tackle on our faces. As for intimacy, it is best when kept private and, well, intimate. Priceless and time tested mature love. Try it.
I don’t know, but it definitely has value. Two of our four are successfully and happily married meeting through their university affiliated days but the remaining two have had a succession of bad experiences so much so that they have asked for our help/guidance/advice in helping them find life mates who want to build a family and supportive structure like the one they were raised in.
We are looking at trying to find connections for them and the most promising sources all seem to be outside of the US and Canada.
Your response is non sequitur. I said nothing subject to opinion or directed at how you make your living arrangements.
Just the facts, which are arranged by law.
“What’s the Market Value of a Non-Leftist, Traditional Woman?”
Are you buying a slave, Aaron? We don’t do slavery anymore and women have their own ideas, these days. No tattoos and a virgin, all that says is you want a blank slate to impose your weak will on. Not to worry, the Japanese are working hard on lifelike robots that will meet your every pathetic desire soon enough.
Ha! You miss the point of his post entirely.
And if you know anything about Aaron, you will know he has huge respect for women.
What I know about Aaron is he’s the poster boy for the MGTOW movement and his “respect” for women is self-serving. Now he probably doesn’t think “self-serving” is an insult considering every post of his includes some level of not-so-humble brag about how successful he is and how women only leech of “good” men like him. Why he gets to use this platform to spew his low-level hatred is beyond me, but I guess I’m just weird for thinking a woman like Kate is capable of making her own decisions.
Frankly, I am tired of reading Aaron’s self-serving screeds about his own brilliance, and his skill as ballroom dancer. It’s pathetic. Worse, though, is his pleading for us to buy his books. “Captain Capitalism” indeed.
Lighten up. Truly.
Damn. When the Captain nails it he really nails it.
He says the value of such woman has gone up exponentially. He is absolutely correct and it is something I have explained to my daughter.
My daughter is tattoo and piercing free (except for the standard ear piercing in each ear for earings), conservative, dresses nicely, hard working, cares about how she looks, etc. And I remind her from time to time that decent successful men will kill for such a woman today.
She just has to play the field a little longer to see which male admirers are actually getting somewhere in life.
Speaking of tattoos, why do some woman do that to themselves?
Was in the grocery store last week and saw a woman who was stunningly attractive, beautiful skirt, slender, feminine manner. Was a sheer pleasure to admire her from a distance. And then she turned and one of her arms was completely covered in tattoos. Man how that instantly changes the appearance of a woman for the worse!
Do young women not realize how many men they exclude from possible mates when they ruin their bodies like that?
Thankfully my daughter and her friends are all tattoo free and have zero interest in disfiguring themselves like that.
If this is a genuine question, I guess I have my reasons for each of my tattoos. I have my mate. I am 100% good with excluding potential other mates with my tattoos. He loves them. I love them.
Not everyone does. I get that.
“Speaking of tattoos, why do some woman do that to themselves?” I can answer that –
“Because they want to.”
Their face – and I imagine they care more about what THEY find attractive, than what YOU do. Women are funny like that! =D
Women who are over tattooed, over pierced, obese, strange hair, leftist, constant anger, is the real reason for ED in men.
Greenlights in women…
https://twitter.com/AJA_Cortes/status/1029059867347017728
women will pay $90 for a tiny little jar that contains about a teaspoon of some cream/lotion that will keep the skin on their face young, but they will cover their arms and legs with large ugly tattoos that make their skin repulsive and makes it look old and worned out.
That is irrational , illogical
they spend a fortune to keep their face young looking and spend money self mutilating the rest of their body with tattoos and piercings
Feminism gave women liberty, freedom, choices, and women chose to self mutilate , to destroy their body.
Stupid does not begin to describe this.
I have the perfect woman for the captain.
In the next installment: What employed, debt free, tattoo free, and, let’s just say virtuous women, want in a man.
A self ascribed asshole isn’t going to cut it.
Tattoos on a woman is like paint on a house; not really necessary, but when done right, it looks good.
Have had the attention of different women over the years, and what was on the inside was important, not the outside.
So long as she is happy and content with herself, she will make you more happy and content with yourself.
debt free? nope.
virgin? ha ha ha !!!!
tat free? except for the HUGE one on my back, a Cdn flag on the front of my left shoulder, a peace sign extolling peaceMAKERS on my right thigh aaaaaand a cute little combined oriental zodiac on my right abdomen
guess I need not worry about being approached by some besuited pencil neck.
You probably dodged a bullet, there… Hahaha!
Saved by your tattoos and free will!
you do know the distinction between the blue helmeted peace ‘keepers’ and a peaceMAKER?
what does it take when incoming ordnance and enemy personnel are all over the place?
a peace MAKER.
and what exactly does the peaceMAKER do about this?
lots of things.
among them ‘a rain of ruin the likes of which’.
consult Wm T Sherman regarding his most widely (that is, roughly 100 miles wide) known example of MAKING the peace.
the peace sign tat has this wording entwined in the ‘spokes’:
“blessed are the peacemakers”
Mt 5:9
the concept is biblical. those who put it on the line, those who kill every enemy combatant that lines up in the crosshairs, the bombardiers who instinctively ‘feel’ when its the exact correct moment to adjust for wind, the factory workers who do overtime to make sure every artillery shell has the exact consistent amount of propellant etc etc are all peaceMAKERS.
it’s biblical. read it yourself, I just gave the reference. Ive seen it worded other ways but never ‘blessed are the peacekeepers’.
crikey, that doesnt even sound right . . . . .
and note, the passage is in the NT, so it cant be brushed aside as of the ‘old covenant’.
Paging Allan S. Allan S. please come for your spouse.
Allan S. please come get your spouse.