“Wink wink nudge nudge” — Trudeau rewards BC with a $4.1b cheque
Aren’t the folks in the B.C. NDP government the bad boys and girls of Confederation in this painful pipeline drama. Aren’t they the ones getting in the way of Alberta crude?
Aren’t Trudeau and his pals telling us they’re real committed to a pipeline and are looking for ways to get the B.C. NDP government to stop playing silly buggers, using every trick in the book to delay Kinder Morgan’s pipeline expansion to the west coast?
If that’s all true, what the hell is this?
The Trudeau Liberals sign on to handing over $4-billion-plus over 10 years to the B.C. NDP government for construction projects.
Related: Saskatchewan also considering cutting off the gas over pipeline delay
I lived in B.C. partially under NDP mismanagement – the expensive ‘High Speed Ferries’ that had to slow down through Active Pass, which totally defeated their supposed purpose….etc, etc.
If B.C. residents are dumb enough to re-elect the NDP, then they, like the ROC who put Justin in office, deserve to pay the price – and pay they/we eventually will.
If B.C. residents are dumb enough to re-elect the NDP
The problem with B. C. is like that with the country as a whole. Lotusland chooses the provincial government as that’s where the majority of voters reside.
I have to travel to NE B. C. as part of settling my father’s estate. I’ve yet to meet anyone who supports the NDP provincial government. That area is dependent on the oil and gas industry as well as construction on the Site C dam. I seriously doubt that there’s much support for the Watermelon Alliance in Victoria.
I don’t know, there’s a lot of Greentards here in Victoria, their whole life revolves around their bicycles, zero waste, eating organic, hybrids and e-cars, enabling needle exchanges and more homeless freebies, wondering why government doesnt do more.
The arrogance of these 10 year deals….ENDP governments never last that long, and if this current regime keeps up its ideological extremes, they will lose the next election in a breeze. A ramp up of gas prices will ensure that, despite Horgan’s Mr Innocent routine. Sure, his true believers will play the blame game and believe it, but the rest of the province, will know that Horgan started a fight that he didnt consider the unintended consequences of. Typical socialist, no economic judgement whatsoever.
You’re right. Southeast and south Vancouver Island is dominated by that very large collective called the BC government and by that other collective called the University of Victoria.
UVic has been ground-zero for the environmental movement in BC for years plus it has an enormous impact on southeast Vancouver Island.
Think Andrew Weaver, a professor at UVic and the current leader of the Green Party. John Horgan, who has lusted for power for years and with his minority government situation, is giving Weaver far too much power and influence on this whole situation.
I hardly go into town anymore, but yesterday we went for lunch. I didn’t see a single bike using any of those expensive new bike lanes.
I lived on Salt Spring – recall being at the Fulford Ferry Terminal one morning, coincident with a “Save The Forests’ protest, or somesuch, in Victoria.
A workday, (for those who worked), but non applicable to the sign wavers (cardboard signs, wooden handles…oh, the irony), all of whom appeared to be in one person to a vehicle, oil emitting beaters.
Notley and Horgan are NOT fighting each other. They are ideological friends, they are working together. Their goal is and has been to shut down the oil sands. It is a major goal of the left to kill the oil sands supply.
This fake fight is simply to gain Notely some street cred (you know, election coming) with the oil crowd. Nothing more.
If you ever start believing that the NDP support alberta oil and support the alberta economy then you may as well move to victoria and start smoking turdeau dope.
I was rather vague in my comment. What I should have written was that there’s not much support for Victoria’s Watermelon Alliance among the people in NE B. C.
We need more push back and sooner. There is no point in being polite. You don’t win with the Marquis of Queensbury rules. The lIberals are scum and they play dirty. We need to play dirty too. Let’s see what you’ve got Sask and Alberta. We know what BC has …. a gang of colluders with the feds. The green people, the people who have no idea where their social program funding comes from.
That which is rewarded is repeated, that which is punished is not likely to be repeated. It is pretty obvious what 4.1 Billion is supposed to be.
We all know that it was all purely coincidental….
This is what happens when you don’t show up to protest.
I think that Alberta and SK are absolutely right to shut off the taps, but not only that, they are right to pay the way for all out of work oil workers to go to Vancouver and disrupt any shipments of oil into the province from abroad – by (almost) any means necessary. I think there’s enough oil worker boats in the 2 provinces that they could easily disrupt tanker traffic to and from the refineries down there. If they don’t want prairie oil then they don’t get foreign oil either.
Bribes from the most “transparent” government in the country’s history.
If my “spidy-sensor” is tingling correctly, I believe that Morgan and Notley have, through the NDP network of travelling rental ministers and appointees, conspired to turn the pipeline into a government owned enterprise (NEP II), driving the private sector out through either bankruptcy or their bottomless legal challenges and roadblocks.
Think ICBC pipeline! Union government jobs galore, amazing benefits and longterm employment.
What more could NDP socialists like (S)Notley and Morgan (&Trudeau) wet dream about. I believe they have back-roomed/paper-bagged this deal for a very long time, creating the disaster and solution. They can take a lot of criticism and fake shame, so long as the plan is in place and being executed.
Don’t expect any sympathy from southern Ontario and southern Quebec. Those regions have long held Alberta in contempt for not automatically handing over its oil for next to nothing like the good little serfs we’re supposed to be.
I think that Alberta needs to hit BC back with the exact same “rules” that they claim they are playing by.
For example: Alberta doesn’t have any rats, but BC does. I know that Alberta wants to make sure that no BC rats get a foothold in Alberta agricultural lands. One way we could do that is to stop every train and truck at the border that is carrying goods from BC through Alberta to inspect it to make sure that there aren’t any rats stowed away. We just want to protect our environment. We have to right to control what is entering our borders to make sure that it doesn’t cause irreparable environmental harm to us.
Same for all shipments of agricultural products. BC doesn’t enforce the same noxious weed controls that Alberta does – especially with regard to bindweed (“lily of the valley”) and knapweed. Alberta should inspect every shipment of fruit and other products coming out of BC to make sure that they aren’t inadvertently introducing noxious species to Alberta.
I’m sure there are other examples – but you get the idea.
Of course – the whole point being to grind everything to a halt and make it painful for shippers to route their goods through BC. There’s a whole lot of Chinese products that would find another way to get shipped to Ontario and Quebec than through the Port of Vancouver.
I have given up BC Wine and have asked other people to do the same (I have also given up purchasing South African wine and fruit, but that is another story).
The only way to get the boot of equalization off yer face, is separation. All that money is coming out of Alberta and Saskatchewan; it is the reward for siding with Quebec.
I give Moe 25 years of threatening to close the valves, while never actually doing it. Just like Notely. If Moe felt any anger over the way Saskatchewan is treated, action would have been taken swiftly already.
The appearance of fighting back is all Moe is interested in. He wants no part of an actual fight.
Alberta needs to separate. Alberta has never gained anything from confederation and it never will.
(and yes…I fully understand that this will never happen)
Being from Ottawa I wouldn’t blame Albertans a bit and would support them – then I could retire there.
Hey, speaking of rewarding anti-pipeline types, check out this especially egregious move by an Alberta (!) institution:
http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/david-suzuki-one-of-13-people-to-receive-honorary-degree-from-u-of-a
I’m a U of A alumnus and I’ve long stopped donating to my alma mater. Now I have another excuse to continue my boycott.
I’m reminded of what H. L. Mencken said about the subject:
“The honorary degree is a way of honoring a pompous ass. No honest person would accept a degree he hadn’t worked for. Honorary degrees are suitable only for realtors, chiropractors, and presidents of the United States.”
It seems that the only thing the Liberals are really willing to do to solve problems, is throw money at them.
No long-term resolutions of difficult problems. Just band-aid them with money.
Perhaps we’ll all end up with so much money that we’ll be able to wallpaper our houses with it.
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/banknotes-german-hyperinflation-1923/
eventually it will be worth less than wallpaper.
Bongo has allowed this to become an existential crisis. His inability to read a situation or be a leader has the chicken coming home to roost (from Peru). The libranos have announced the red Rachael and Whoregan have been summonsed to Ottawa to meet with his excellency this weekend.
So grave is the situation now that it has spun completely out of control that this week the librano cabinet had an unscheduled emergency meeting and bongo hizself has had to return from holidays (exile) to try and force a settlement. They assigned the inept Morneau to meet with red and talk to Whoregan but as you might expect, he couldn’t get it done.
Bongo’s career hangs in the balance. He has pledged the entire weight of the government in support of KM. He cannot allow this to fail for if it does so does he.
I don’t see Whoregan wavering. Why would he? Bongo may offer a bribe of a big appointment or some cash but I think it wont be enough. He has plenty of support in the Lower Mainland and the Greens have gone to the whip on him.
Bongo has pissed off everyone. His supporters, his enemies it’s laughable.
I’m not sure what red can add to this equation. She’s played her cards. It’s up to bongo to assert the authority of the confederation. If he can’t it’s lights out not only for him but the country.
Maybe the scam that is our Prime Minister has finally been outed. His crap has finally caught up with him. Looks good on him.
Way to go bongo!
At this point the only two possible outcomes for Canada are Venezuela or Chile, And it’s not looking good for the Chile option.
Today the BC Chamber In partnership with other BC organizations hosted a press conference to announce their collective position on the Kinder Morgan pipeline. For the details and to express your support you can go to http://www.confidenceincanada.com/
I guess BC is the new K Bec. Act like an Eh hole and get cash from the Liberals.
Not to worry everyone as I have been assured by various Media assholes that Juthtin will be holding a photo op with the Premiers of BC and Alberta… that should help, said no one ever… The charade continues.
I have an idea …. Why not have Alberta stop importing oil and natural gas from NE BC.
There would be no market for oil and gas, and the BC government would be forced to build a pipeline to market. They would have a hard time convincing enviroMENTALists and the NDP/Green Party.
NE BC has the same problem, and they are forced to “pipe” it through Alberta to get to market.
(I am not in favor of this, and know many from NE BC that do not support the NDP/Green Party. They are like the rural Alberta – they did not vote them into power.)
NE BC has the same problem, and they are forced to “pipe” it through Alberta to get to market.
Actually, there’s a pipeline that runs south from NE B. C. through the Pine Pass. It was originally owned by Westcoast Transmission (later renamed Westcoast Energy), became part of Duke Energy when it bought the firm more than 15 years ago, was one Spectra Energy’s assets when Duke spun off that company, and now belongs to Enbridge when it took over Spectra.
The company can make things lousy for Lotusland by shutting down one of the compressor stations along the route.
Alberta doesn’t “import” BC nat gas from NE BC, Canadian companies (mostly) trans ship it from NE BC to markets in North America on existing pipeline systems. BC exacts royalties on gas or oil as does Alberta on it’s side of the provincial lines. What could be done to stick it to BC is charge a “green tariff” or do a Christy Clark & demand a cut of BC’s royalties to trans ship gas (it’s sour, mostly so “dangerous” to fearful idiots on both sides of the border), just like CC wanted a cut of oil royalties to push Gateway across BC. Bongo has cashiered that project leaving Trans Mountain a a final nail in the coffin called Confederation.
I’m predicting a “fail” on Sunday to get any agreement between Notley or Horgan & Mr Dressup (he’ll be wearing a suit on this trip), as all three are in on the deal to kill oil & gas industry in Canada, starting with the biggest one…..Alberta. Notley is playing her part only because she can’t pay her supporters, .gov union workers without a viable energy industry or agri business in her province, to stay elected. Collectivism doesn’t work in jurisdictions where you aren’t able to print money, so she has to go “conservative business friendly” or she’s outta of a chob.
Horgan is an union commie idiot, who is a “one & done” in BC, if not sooner with Weaver pulling his chain in their arrangement. Kenny should just SFTU & let Notley hang herself on this “social license=pipelines” idea. She should know better, being a half arsed commie herself & a known anti oil/carbon crusader from eons ago. People have photos. She listened to Tzeporah Berman. Bad move, Rachel, real bad. She’s “one & done” #2 in this bunch. Bongo….well do I need to say anything at all about him & his Chretinous Cabinet?
Sit back & watch the wreck of the good ship Canaduh. It’s better than Little Mosque on the Prairie. Canaduh is done, because the damage & animosity brewed here on just this little exercise can never be repaired. Trust me on that.
Memories of NEP I haven’t faded here in Alberta. A lot of voters are itching for revenge not just for that but also NEP II.
PM Peter Pan, Red Rachel, and Weaver’s buddy remind me of a group of freshman undergrads who engage in late-night rag-chews in their dorm rooms, discussing life, the universe, and everything. They know the solutions to everything and how to implement them, formulating them between beers or whatever mind-altering substance(s) they are consuming.
But all three got older and found themselves elected. Now that each of them are in power in their respective jurisdictions, they can go about and impose their late-teen fantasies on an unsuspecting (and undeserving) world.