Remember the professors who were recently interviewed by Jordan Peterson? One of them, David Millard Haskell, has just written a stinging article about The Shiny Pony:
Under the new rules, applicants must agree — by marking a box on an electronic form — that they respect charter rights, including “women’s rights and women’s reproductive rights.” The office of the employment minister has said without the confirmation, an organization will not receive funding.
Religious organizations — churches, youth camps, aid groups and so forth — that hire students to assist them over the summer are frustrated. That’s because many, especially conservative Protestant and Catholic organizations, believe a child in the womb is as valuable as a child born, and they see abortion as immoral. To give assent to abortion, even via a check mark on a government form, betrays their values and conscience.

Diversity is our strength. Except in the Trudeau’s Canada where diversity of opinion will not be tolerated. I always wonder why there aren’t any good Catholics left that will recommend that Trudeau be excommunicated.
Automatic excommunication for abortion (CIC 1398) applies not only to the woman who has the abortion, but to “all those who commit this crime with knowledge of the penalty attached, and [this] includes those accomplices without whose help the crime would not have been committed” (Evangelium Vitae 62).
And THIS is the WAR on Christianity (and all other religions as well). Forced compliance. Economic coercion. You WILL call a he a she … period. You WILL call a fetus a lump of disorganized cells.
It won’t work. People eventually tire of behaving as told by the man holding the gun to their heads.
sooooo if I got this right, the lieberal rule is in canaduh, one must KILL children for money. their OWN money by the way, its ALL from the taxpayers. even the ‘stuff’ from gubbamint owned operations, because, where did they GET the money in the first place to buy/start up/seize/whatever the business operation in the first place?
war it is. the want to play hardball? okidoki mr lieberal mp. batter up !!!
p.s. I am NOT a catholic. I dont even go to chuch anymore since for some reason I really dont like to be in the company of pompous hypocrites.
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“kenji says… THIS is the WAR on Christianity”
no, kenji… you must be mistaken. i’m sure pm justin castraux
has made certain his 50,000 unvetted syrian refugees all
had to sign this pledge before being unceremoniously dumped
on the canadian taxpayer… right?
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*snicker* … yeah silly me for posting (and all other religions as well). We both know that is not true.
Kinda like how “the gays” couldn’t seem to find a Muslim Bakery to sue.
There is no difference between the authoritarian left and the authoritarian right. Authoritarians are bullies and tyrants who are viciously intolerant of anyone who refuses conformity or resists being meekly compliant. The mantra of authoritarians is always “shut up, do as you’re told…or else” and the “or else” gets more and more oppressive.
I suppose that Muslim organizations can get around this by invoking taqqiya but the reality is that this is just one of many reasons why government, and particularly the federal government shouldn’t be in this kind of business. The majority of federal ministries shouldn’t exist. Robbing Peter to pay Paul is always wrong. However, if Muslims make a fuss, I’m sure the Spawn will change it.
Justin should include NOT speaking against FGM as well, you can never tell when one of these organizations might say something unkind about that!
I have news for the Pony, his much mouthed “diversity is our strength ” is an oxymoron. Diversity in a country is a dividing force, we stand for nothing. Trudeau has no clue of what he speaks any time he opens his gob. We will soon be a nation of communities if we are going to keep electing leaders not qualified for the job. Trudeau is probably the least qualified leader in the history of this country.
I believe he has already adopted Islam as his religion
“To give assent to abortion, even via a check mark on a government form, betrays their values and conscience.”
Well, now they all know that supporting the Liberals socialist program is a bad idea, because that little checkbox has been implied since the 1960s at least. It has always been waiting in the wings to be deployed until the right moment. Prime Minister Hairdoo decided this is the moment, and the churches better damn well check that box.
Socialists don’t like religion. They view it as competition.
Well isn’t this a coincidence?
The sock monkey seems to be getting some unwanted attention from the right to life in the US just as he is set to visit three cities in the US.
What could possibly go wrong?
I don’t think that Islam is in conflict with the Liberals on this. IIRC, infanticide is acceptable to the age of 16 for males and never expires for females (though the terminology changes to uxoricide upon marriage).
Just for the record, this is affecting Islamic organizations too; Islam is just as firmly against abortion as Christianity. Only the other day, I saw an image in a newspaper of a meeting of religious leaders discussing how to confront the government over this. Prominent among the attendees was an imam.
So now our Dear Leader and his oh-so-clever policy wonks end up alienating Muslim groups as well. This is all too redolent of their last genius master stroke: trying to inject “progressive” issues into international trade talks.
It would be all too funny if it were not so unbearably pathetic.
As I keep saying, abortion is here is incidental (an issue Canadians do not understand as they don’t understand that budgets don’t balance themselves).
If Trudeau can make ANYONE sign away what they regard as right or wrong for ANY reason, he can and will do it EVERY time.
Liberals enjoy making people beg for their money (RE: parents, autism, Ontario, Wynne is a b!#ch). It’s time that not only is Trudeau made to eat this paper but that the private sector step into cases like this and pick up some of the slack.
I don’t remember tge oart of the Charter which mentions “woman’s rights and eoman’s reproductive rights”. I do, however, remember the freedom of Religion part.
It is the fatal flaw of the Canadian Constitution that renders it as worthless as any other law “giving you a right”.
Rights don’t come from government. They are consistently trampled on by governments and inter government agencies everywhere.
The limits put on your rights, all come from governments encroaching upon you.
If you want your rights for you and your future children, the only way is to limit government involvement in what is yours.
Starve the beast.
The American Constitution, is an example of freedoms gained, even while those rights have been eroded by their governments for +200 years.
The fact remains, don’t allow the government to set your rights as they’ll always take them from you when they see fit.
Starve the beast.
“Trudeau is probably the least qualified leader in the history of this country.”
Probably? How about definitely? And he will continue to wear this title forever since it is inconceivable that a worse leader could ever be elected in the future.
If the situation wasn’t so pathetic, it might even be somewhat humorous. It’s too bad because Canada could be a great country and contribute much to humanity as a whole but with this tool at the helm … not a chance.
“Diversity is out strength” How? I’ve seen the catchy message on t-shirts worn by young 20 somethings but do you have any idea how strength is obtained? To me it’s a bunch of horsehockey fantasy pablum that feeds progressive numbskulls.
Strength comes from UNITY. Tucker Carlson said last night, it’s Unity from common beliefs that brings people together even if those people come from diverse backgrounds, education and ethnic origins. Where in nature does diversity make anything stronger without some general unifying influence? Diversity on its own causes chaos and conflict. Even the progressives who preach “Diversity is strength” don’t believe it otherwise conservatives and liberals would be one big happy family without having to first find common ground. The strongest organizations will always be ones where everyone pulls hard in the same direction.
At the same time, religious organizations recognizing women as unequal to men can apply for federal funding:
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cntrng-crm/crm-prvntn/fndng-prgrms/scrt-nfrstrctr-prgrm-en.aspx
And yet, attendees at the various town halls let him get away with obsfucation on this. His claim was that the legislation is simply aimed at abortion activist groups. If that is the case, they need to revise the application process which casts a wide net.
Erin O’Toole sent out a good letter on this. The letter makes it clear that Trudeau is disengaged and that the country is being run by the back-room boys. We knew this, but many Canadians do not. Canadians need to wake up.
There’s a serious tactical aspect that most of you are missing. All of you noting the constitutional aspects of this abomination are correct.
However, what this is about is the next election. This is Socks effort to drive a wedge issue among conservatives. There are two likely outcomes:
1. there’s a split among conservatives over those opposed to abortion as against those who believe in a woman’s right to choose. Doesn’t matter to Socks how it turns out; the conservatives will have been divided against themselves for the next election; or
2. conservatives unite against this, and he’s able to portray all conservatives as being against women’s rights and he as the great defender of such. This shores up the leftwing new Liberal voters which he has to have to win the next election.
Either way, it’s a heads-I-win-tails-you-lose proposition for him. The only downside for him is any division created within his own party, and he can always hit back with party discipline “Do you want to remain the governing party, or not?”
For my own part, I’m pro-choice, but this is so cynical in essentially invoking a law which does not exist, that we have to stand united on this matter.
The hallmark of a totalitarian government,demand public displays of ideological loyalty and imposed ideological oaths
In related news, some muslim groups are petitioning Trudeau to declare Jan 29 the national day to recognize islamophobia. Or as I call it now islamofauxbia. (I got that somewhere, might have been a commenter here?)
Looks like the Vatican won’t be excluded.
Red Francis honors Dutch abortion activiist.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/01/17/pope-francis-honors-dutch-abortion-activist-with-pontifical-medal-of-knighthood/
But if it is good enough for part-time and casual employees, shouldn’t it also apply to full-time employees? Why not?
All government employees, in fact anyone who receives tax dollars should have to pass the Liberal Purity Test!
Maybe a good wave or arm thrust to signify you’re onboard.
The same type and colour(let’s say red)uniform for everyone in the Club.
A snazzy moniker and greeting in praise of comradeship.
It’s all been done to death.
Of course, I also believe that anyone who voted for Little Potato requires a sanity test!
I learned the correct spelling, islamofauxbia, here, from Bill commenting on Clock Girl.
It is not a good wedge issue. It is not just Conservatives he is dividing– it is the country. Moreover, when asked, most Canadians think there should be some kind of abortion law in place. I think it would be very dangerous for him to try to make this an election issue.
And at the same time in the USA – Trump decries ‘permissive’ U.S. abortion laws at rally
See https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-abortion/trump-decries-permissive-u-s-abortion-laws-at-rally-idUSKBN1F814H
And also in the US at the same time – U.S. is issuing a new regulation aimed at protecting healthcare workers’ civil rights based on religious and conscience objections
See https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-religion/u-s-health-agency-revokes-obama-era-planned-parenthood-protection-idUSKBN1F820T
Every time conservatives are ahead in the polls the left trotts out abortion. What I fail to understand is why our “conservative” politicians are afraid to say they oppose the murder of 90,000 babies every year.
In case you were wondering that’s 8 times the number of gun murders in the states each year.
Harper had an answer to the abortion question that diffuses it as a wedge issue. He said something like, 1) my position on abortion is complicated and will anger both pro-choice and pro-life advocates 2) regardless of my beliefs, a Conservative government will not revisit this issue. The Conservatives should also add in your view, correct imo, that bringing up the abortion issue again is a cynical political ploy (the stale hidden agenda card).
…various town halls.?…uh, you mean the discussion groups always situated on a University Campus filled with indoctrinated 20 something SJW’s..those “Town Halls”..?
Scripted Softball BS…period. And anyone who dares to pose a real question to the pissante with the rolled up sleeves, they are nearly immediately escorted out as Trudeau replies while NEVER EVER actually answering their question.
The Next election is going to be interesting to say the least. It will in fact have a major bearing on whether I remain in this soon to be, and sad to say, Leftist SHIThole of a country.
I don’t know why anyone with ethical principles would want their payroll subsidized at taxpayers’ expense anyway.
This whole issue should have been avoided when Sock Boy first declared that he wouldn’t sign nomination papers for Liberal candidates who opposed abortion. This despite him declaring that it was an “open” nomination process. He received very little pushback from his party which proves again why we always say to never trust a Liberal as they will say and do anything to get elected. Liberal candidates knew that the new golden boy was their meal ticket back to the trough and went along proving again that Liberals have no principles. The Liberal party no longer exists, it has become a personality cult.
If the Trudeau tries to make abortion an election issue, the Conservatives should hit back with ads showing that Pierre Trudeau would not be allowed into today’s Liberal party run by his son.
the sad reality is that there are many many stupid Canadians who will vote for this drama queen again regardless of what he does.
PREcisely sir.
‘diverrrrrsity is strength’ sounds like something out of a ‘1984’ remake.
imagine fighting a pitched battle with your footsoldiers engaging in lots of diversity. wandering all over the place with no cohesive coordinated plan. everybody following agenda, whim and adventure.
furthermore, and I know there are those here feel the same way, there WILL be an atonement for those in gubbamint, those supporting, and those engaging in killing the unborn.
jeezuz MURPHYYYY!!!! talk about *defenseless*. this is one of those situations in nature, in life, that comes with its own limiting aspect.
sonograms reveal the unborn child is female.
the child is aborted in the patriarchal society.
one less female covered by the ‘right’ to abortion because *another* female exercised the *right*.
my entire take on abortion changed in a matter of seconds way back late friggin 60s, chemistry class. saw an image of a 7-8 whatever weeks old fetus, repleat with little hands, fingers, toes, mouth, eyes, ie completely recognizable as a HUMAN.
it took a matter of SECONDS dear sda and my attitude has NOT wavered. Im talking half a century later.
By discriminating against a groups religious values (in this case Christians), it would appear that our perpetually ethically challenged government is now also guilty of a hate crime.
They do not count ballots anymore. It will always be a liberal majority from here to eternity. We are a dictatorship post national thing and will be like Venezuela very soon. No food, no jobs, people starving. It is to reduce the population numbers and follow the script of Karl Marx and agenda 21. Wake up we are in the worst nightmare of thugs governing who hate you. We are in such trouble and people don’t see it. You might realize it when the gov finds a way to seize all your assets, please people, believe it. We need an antidote to save ourselves. I am so fearful everyday.
cgh For my own part, I’m pro-choice,
Another one of those EVIL Canadians who believes killing a baby is just fine. Sick.
Eff-off and grow up Loner. cgh is allowed an opinion here and I don’t totally disagree. Why would we welcome thousands of babies that can not be looked after by the parent(s) – most likely parent (singular and already on welfare)?
I do not support abortion as a means of birth control at all. That’s disgusting and brought forth by people (not just women) too lazy to use REAL birth control.
Also, if life is so important, why do ‘we’ on the right hate abortion but support capital punishment? And the left supports abortion but wants to rehab evil doers? Is not ALL life sacred to our religious friend here? I do approve of capital punishment in this day of DNA and other ways and means just so you know I am transparent.
I know I will get flamed here for this comment but I can’t be like a lefty and defend one option while condemning another.
Have at it.
Brian
i’m ok w this so long as they also MUST draw a cartoon muhammed pbah…