Enemy Of The People

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There’s more than one way to skin a fake news publisher.

If you think President Trump has an antagonistic relationship with the press now, just wait until his administration slaps a new 30% tax on newsprint.
Seriously. That’s the threat America’s newspaper publishers are warning about, with the Commerce Department’s International Trade Administration set to issue a preliminary determination by March 7, 2018 on whether Canada’s export into the United States of “certain uncoated groundwood paper” meets the legal tests to qualify for countervailing duties under the Tariff Act of 1930.
[…] it’s hard to escape a certain amount of humor in the whole situation. A lot of the newspaper owners who are now complaining that Mr. Trump’s newsprint tax could put them out of business or raise prices for their customers are the same ones who spent the past few months issuing editorials ridiculing efforts by President Trump and Congressional Republicans to cut taxes on businesses.

39 Replies to “Enemy Of The People”

  2. So let me get this straight …the same people that run article after article and puff piece after puff piece and junk stats on how mandatory minimum wages and higher taxes are better for businesses (15$/hr minimum wage in Seattle ect ect ) are now complaining because a 30% tax is going to put them out of business ..lol but yet they ignored the restaurant owners tears when they said they would have to lay off and or go out of business if the cities (all over usa and canada)forced essentially a 30% tax(living wage /15$/hr minimum wage) onto the owners and customers of the restaurants …
    GET BENT!! schadenfreude, worlds smallest violin is being played in your honor, ect ect …to bad so sad …your getting it good n hard and you deserve it all ..and personally i hope news print goes out of business for good!! save the trees n all!!

  5. This is not about newsprint. It’s about stifling free speech. Whether the news are fake or real, whether the movie you are watching is fact or fiction, and whether the headline on the National Enquirer’s cover about Donald Trump’s past is exaggerated or underrated, the people who write have the right to free expression. Or should I say ”HAD” the right to freedom of expression before the idiot got elected.

  6. I don’t like seeing a 30% tax on anything. Not something to celebrate. I also don’t like any reference to Hoover’s Tariff Act without spitting.

  7. “….. the people who write have the right to free expression.”
    They will still have that right. They just may have to find another distribution vehicle. Most, if not all news media have on-line access. They may have greater reach, and can always comment on blogs like SDA, just as you and I do. Perhaps their time has come, like it did with buggy whip manufactures.

  8. Oh cool someone on SDA who isn’t economics illiterate.
    The GOP needs to depose Trump already. He’s not getting any less senile.

  9. I hope so. I own shares in a Canadian toilet paper corp. Kruger, serving both sides of the border. We might just arrive at where Venezuelan’s ended up on stupid stuff like this, sooner than we all think. Out of toilet paper, because the companies making stuff like this, serving ALL of North America, the US being their biggest customer, went out of business.
    You want a Soviet brand, to replace them, I’m thinking to those posting here & especially Mr Gerald commie Butts, who seems to share folk’s laughing demise of “useless, tree killing paper”. Amazon might have some issues on that….shipping containers, boxes, made from pulp. I could name a few more Canadian corporations serving THAT market that could be at risk. RICHARDS PACKAGING, INTERTAPE POLYMER.
    Stupid Canadians shooting themselves in the foot & costing Canadians JOBS on anti-American rhetoric & one upmanship. Hey, Gerald Butts gets paid still when Kruger employees are out of work. Yeah, green jobs are gonna save them. F%cking idiots!
    Kruger Paper Products, Canada’s #1 toilet paper & tissue manufacturer. Think: Cashmere, Scotties, Purex, Sponge Towels Ultra, White Cloud brands.
    Kruger Products employs 2,500 people in 8 manufacturing plants located across North America. Including the USA.

  10. “Stupid Canadians shooting themselves in the foot & costing Canadians JOBS on anti-American rhetoric & one upmanship. ”
    It is not the fault of Canadians that America elected a protectionist idiot for president.

  12. This will help to create good jobs and build the middle class.
    Remember, this is the oft repeated talking point for every other Liberal/NDP government mandated kick in the teeth.

  13. Uh, oh! Sask Watch is referring to Stupid Liberal Justine.
    “before the idiot got elected.”

  14. Yeah, that’s who I want to hear from, the Ross Rebagliati School of Economics. Canajian, eh?
    This pulp/lumber issue has been around since the 1930’s dick head, can’t read? Figure we should do a better job on negotiations? Think milk products sport, protectionist much? How about chicken, cheese. If you think you might be dealing with a “protectionist” US elected President (we don’t have a hand in that despite all your efforts), maybe change your negotiating tactics & keep your anti-American smugness close to your chest?
    I cheerfully watched pot stocks crash this morning on the TSX & thought of you, when that old reprobate Sessions put a crimp in the tokers’ futures in WEED-T. It had nothing to do with Canadian weed stocks, but when the US elephant rolls over, sometimes we up here get crushed.
    Keep cheering stupid. You want to venture to Floreedah anytime soon, you might have to wait a bit at the border.

  15. Canada is the best. I wish with all my heart and mind that the purported “friendliest border in the world” really were just that. I wish the border security on both sides had little more to do than hand out Tim Horton’s or McDonald’s discount coupons and wish everyone a happy visit. I wish we had a GROWN UP as president south of the 49th. I wish there were no trade or employment barriers.
    And I’m going to continue working on that.
    God bless Canada.

  17. Let’s wind the tape back to see what really happened.
    If the Commerce Department rules for the 30%, that means newspapers have been buying newsprint at an unfair low price from Canada for some time. Obviously, Canada interfered in the presidential election by contributing to newspapers that tried to impose the election of Hillary. Will Democrats be appointing a special prosecutor to investigate everyone who spoke to a Canadian before the election?

  18. It’s not stifling free speech. Everybody will still be free to say what they will. The right to free speech is not the right to have people’s money taken away from them (taxes) and spent on ensuring there is an economy or a market that pays for some people to get their free speech published and/or transmitted.

  19. you apparently have about zero fvcking clue as to free speech. The news papers were/are part and parceled of getting Trump elected. There are consequences to fvcking lying, spin and libtard bull$hit, and you are just starting to see those consequences are just starting to kick in. Real muting of free speech is the lies the MSM spews, silencing voices of those of us on the blogs, we don’t have the audience the MSM has, so we go unheard because we don’t agree with their lies, now fvcking grow up
    BTW; I can go to hufpo if I want to read garbage as you and Unthing post in here

  20. That all you got, sport? No expose on how we can circumvent all this US protectionism that we, north of 49 have had to deal with since 1867?
    I’m an “incoherent fascist”? The US “system” is private sector driven. Unlike there we can’t own land, the Crown does. New Brunswick might be different, but who knows. Irving sure does. So the Crown pick winners & losers based on who pays them to gain access to land. It’s all controlled by power brokers with connections to .gov. Our “Constitution” of 1982 stripped the rights to property from us, eliminating private ownership of land from the equation of who gets what in this country. Forever. The Crown, in bed with Big Lumber/Logging/Pulp can then demand a lower price for access than our market neighbors to the south (probably because they check), because down there, they deal with private landowners for most access.
    Anything produced from wood fibre, in this case pulp, is suspect down there to price manipulation….by the Crown up here. The Yanks don’t like that stuff, so what do you propose to do about it, smart boy?
    Ignoring the situation will not make it go away, hence the constant bargaining since the 1930’s. We lost the latest lumber dispute didn’t we? Not talked about in the media much. Says a lot about our business acumen, when we can’t even deal with Chinese lumber requirements & are stuck sending raw logs to their mills, because we won’t cut to our customer’s requirements. What does that stupidity cost us in shuttered mills & lost jobs?
    Over to you smart boy.

  21. “wish there were no trade or employment barriers And I’m going to continue working on that.”
    Ok, lets get started
    Abolish supply management in dairy.
    Abolish carbon tax.
    Abolish mandatory French and metric labelling.
    Abolish alcohol and tobacco taxes.
    I’m not sure what your definition of a GROWN UP is, but if it’s Hillary (blame the video) Clinton you are not qualified to talk politics in public.

  22. Uncoated groundwood paper exports to the US from Canada amount to 1.3 Billion US/ year primarily from Catalyst and Resolute Forest Products (the company that successfully sued Greenpeace). The US can’t produce that volume themselves so the complainant, a Washington State company, Norpac, has managed to seek, and likely acquire some rent, thanks to Trump and his populist protectionism. The Newspaper and other customers will pay more only if no other producers (Scandinavia, for example) displace Canadian suppliers, otherwise it becomes our (Canadian economy) loss through loss of market and or revenue.

  23. “Our “Constitution” of 1982 stripped the rights to property from us, eliminating private ownership of land from the equation of who gets what in this country. Forever. ”
    As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about. The Charter did no such thing. Really, the charter didn’t do squat. It’s an empty letter.
    “The right to free speech is not the right to have people’s money taken away from them (taxes) and spent on ensuring there is an economy or a market that pays for some people to get their free speech published and/or transmitted.”
    Strawman down.

  24. Over to you, smart boy. That’s all you got, says P.O’d in Alberta, can’t think of anything because you don’t have anything.
    Hello? Hello? Did the cat cut your……

  26. Any extra tax or tariff levied on a productive sector of your country or a productive sector belonging to your largest trading partner is wrongheaded but when you remember that our dead tree media has always been front and center lecturing us that taxation is always good because it brings us the good things in life and makes our society superior to a ‘dog eat dog world of unbridled capitalism’ well spare us the crocodile tears in this particular instance.

  30. I can’t remember the last time I read a newspaper. Fact is, the last time I read a newspaper was around the time I cancelled my cable TV in May 2000.
    Sure, I don’t get some of the pop culture references. I freely admit this. Pop culture isn’t the same as grass roots culture. Pop culture is just drek. It’s about people who don’t have their own opinions getting their opinions dictated to them by TV emptiheads who are told what to think and disseminated by their TV Exeds.
    I still live a full life. It just happens to be my life with my views. It’s easier and better for me. Try it, you’ll like it.

  32. someone mentioned property rights. riddle me this, just who has property rights anywhere where said property is taxed by government? stop paying said taxes and see how long you have the right to your property.

  33. These are just opening moves in the NAFTA negotiations — the beatings will continue until some more mutually beneficial agreements are made (which should have happened a long time ago, but it really is too easy to support a socialist domestic policy off of Uncle Sugar…but in return you have to carry, ehem, certain elements’ water for them as nobody rides for free…and what do you do when some of those other pesky southerners decide to turn off the spigot?).
    Maggie Thatcher had a point about what happens when the money dries up.
    My advice? Get rid of Trudeau and his pals; try to find somebody who can actually turn the course of your country around — forget conservatives or whatever your loyal party of opposition is; you need someone who is really going to upset the apple cart imhao. I really do hope you can do it, even though I’m no longer fond of Canada in any way (thanks for that) — still, for purely selfish reasons it would be best to have our northern neighbors a little more stable and secure, and you know good will towards man and stuff.
    Until then: have fun with the Chinese (and your new Canadians); invest in Georgia Pacific!
    Hey Sask Watch: do like this sort of free speech? Maybe you should clear it with Kathleen Wynn and Ontario first, huh?

  34. Good catch WalterF.
    Perhaps the next Russian connection to be investigated will be JT and company.

  35. hey a$$hole, you do not have land ownership in canada, you have “right to use”, and that is a huge difference from ownership. If you take a mortgaging course, as I did, you will find that they drive that point home really hard, cuz it’s very important. If you take your real estate sales course, as I did, they also drive that point home. If you study real estate legals , they also drive that point home. Now Unthing, you’v exposed yourself as a dimwitted uninformed jerk for a long time in here, now FO, your stupidity gets tiring.

  36. When referring to the written word, lies and slander are two totally different issues.
    I can lie about the popularity of Justin Trudeau if I write, ”In my opinion, less than 30% of the people want Trudeau as their PM.”
    If on the other hand, I write ”Justin Trudeau was caught shoplifting sunglasses at Shopper’s Drug Mart last night,” and it can be proven that I did that out of malice towards JT, then that becomes slander.
    Huge difference. As for Trump, when he hit a low of 35% pop. at the same stage in his presidency as when George W. Bush was running at 85%, he should have maybe behaved as an adult and tried to stay out of the press. Trump is an embarrassment to Conservative politics, to the American people and to the free world.
    http://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

  38. That’s besides the point, which was about the charter. Further, America has this thing called ‘Eminent Domain’ that makes a joke of their supposed private property rights.

  39. Now it will cost 30 percent more to line the bottom of bird cages, the finest use for most newspapers.

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