25 Replies to “Heh”

  2. Here is somebody who knew something about rope measuring…
    “We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”
    ― Benjamin Franklin
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group ‘True North’

  3. You thinking of the “King’s Colours flag” ?
    It flew from 1606 – 1801, the Union Jack followed to present, similar, but different.

  4. I’m descended from many Americans (Mayflower etc.) and distantly related to a President or two (John Adams being one) but, being as contrary as I am, the ones I liked reading about in early records were those who deserted from the revolutionary army and came north. One of my husband’s ancestors was a spy for the British.

  5. Take out the worthless Irish saltiers and you have a real flag of Canada, the flag of union that the loyalists fought the rebels under.

  6. A good one at Ace’s too:
    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/happy treason day.jpg
    And Mike’s reference is to the 18th Century British flag used throughout the American Revolution only having the English and Scots saints’ crosses on it and not the Irish (as still used to this day) until 1801.
    And, of course, my Captcha code is all in French!

  7. The St George Cross (red cross on white) was flown by the British for over 400 years and it was the flag Cabot and Drake used on their voyages.

  9. Benadict Arnold was a hero, not a traitor. An 18th. century secret agent man.

  10. “The St George Cross (red cross on white) was flown by the British for over 400 years and it was the flag Cabot and Drake used on their voyages.”
    The St George Cross was never flown by the “British”: it was, and remains, the flag of England.
    I know there’s an age-old tendency to conflate Britain with England but there was no Britain as a sovereign state until Scotland and England formed the “Kingdom of Great Britain” (as it was known until 1801).

  11. The Saint George’s Cross, the Saint Andrew’s Cross, the Saint Patrick’s Cross – all beautiful in any combination.

  13. I give the Brits cred for the Magna Carta and the Battle of Britain, enough said. I detest the British monarchy, especially their part in WW I and what that did the evolution of Canada. So many young Canadians killed in a war they should never have fought.
    Watched the 1812 War doc the other night. Had to laugh as they discussed the Canadian settler’s weighing of options as to joining the USA invaders or not. No acknowledgement that there were uprisings in favor of joining the USA. The Molson family of beer fame being part of a group from Lower Canada. IMHO British subjects in Canada circa 1812 should have joined the American invaders and united the continent under one republican government. America could have thrown out the last vestiges of the Euro sickness.

  14. “And Wales…”
    Poor old Wales, the Rodney Dangerfield of the United Kingdom: it just don’t get no respect.
    Constitutionally, Wales is a principality of England (hence the Prince of Wales). That is why it does not show up in the Union flag.

  15. Correct. I admire the current flag of the UNITED KINGDOM; historical and colorful.
    Canada’s flag is colorful but it seems to me that the original complaint against it still has validity. There is nothing historical about it and it looks more like a logo than a flag.

  16. “I give the Brits cred for the Magna Carta and the Battle of Britain, enough said. I detest the British monarchy, especially their part in WW I and what that did the evolution of Canada. So many young Canadians killed in a war they should never have fought.
    Watched the 1812 War doc the other night. Had to laugh as they discussed the Canadian settler’s weighing of options as to joining the USA invaders or not. No acknowledgement that there were uprisings in favor of joining the USA. The Molson family of beer fame being part of a group from Lower Canada. IMHO British subjects in Canada circa 1812 should have joined the American invaders and united the continent under one republican government. America could have thrown out the last vestiges of the Euro sickness.”
    My, that was quite the diatribe! You must feel so much better for getting it all off your chest.
    That’s the great thing about events that never happened: you can bloviate forever about them and never be held to account.
    Because they never happened.

  17. The United States of America began in treason and betrayal, and despite its great accomplishments is melting down into treason and betrayal.

  18. The traitors of 1812 were few and far between. I suspect my g-g-g-grandfather was one of them. His father was a Green Mountain Boy in the Revolution but he moved to Ontario where his first couple kids were born. He then served in the New York State Militia during the War of 1812, returning to Canada some years later. My family tree shame – father and son traitors – why couldn’t it be whores instead?

  19. Spy against the traitorous colonials. Remember we Canadians were governed by the same people and did not rebel. And the Yank invaders were chased out right quick. de Salabery is a hero up here.

  20. That is interesting. My ancestors came north in 1801 so were considered ‘Late Loyalists’. They were not allowed to append UE(United Empire) to their name like the true Loyalists who came north immediately after the war ended.

  21. It’s only treason if you lose.
    “Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason? Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
    – John Harington

  23. Canuckistan resoundingly BEAT what was to become the biggest military power in all civilization. even the ‘mercuns much more recently acknowledge this.
    https://amhistory.si.edu/starspangledbanner/the-war-of-1812.aspx
    and we weren’t even a country yet. don’t fcuk with the Cdn military. google the following:
    deadliest WW I sniper.
    Juno beach
    George Beurling
    record sniper kill
    etc etc.

  24. Re the 1812 War, every county along the border had a militia which took part in the battles in their area. Go to any library in eastern Ontario and read all the names of area men who fought against the Americans.
    Don’t believe every documentary you view. You should have learned that by now.

  25. “Canuckistan resoundingly BEAT what was to become the biggest military power in all civilization…”
    Well, it’s worth remembering that the Canadian colonies did have a couple of advantages over the Americans, namely, the Royal Navy and the British Army.
    It doesn’t much matter that the US was to become the biggest military power sometime in the future. In 1812, the biggest military power was the British Empire and the Canadas were part of it.
    The Americans clearly believed that they could take advantage of a Britain preoccupied with fighting Napoleon in Europe.
    Bad move – and they had their brand new capital on the Potomac sacked as a result.

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