“Allahu Akbar” and so far nobody really knows anything. Which is why I’ve been following and not speculating. I’ll leave that to our kneejerk media. Meanwhile, beware of fake reports if you’re scanning social media. Journos are falling thick and fast for those as well.
Probable fake. Al-Taweed is the name of a Syrian rebel group. https://t.co/2F8v81U5vJ
— Katewerk (@katewerk) January 30, 2017
Update: @stephen_taylor TVA reporting on vague descriptions of suspects: one of QC origin, one of Arab origin.
As of this morning, no new information has been released identifying the suspects. How completely Canadian.
Update: Mohamed Belkhadir, the man police arrested as a suspect in the mosque attack, was just trying to perform first-aid.
Things you’ll never see on the CBC.
Suspect Alex Bissonnette's FB page was just taken down. His page likes include: Parti Quebecois, NDP, Rob Ford, Jack Layton, Marine Le Pen
— Stephen Taylor (@stephen_taylor) January 30, 2017
Or the Globe and Mail.
Let me get this straight.
The perpetrators are recent Syrian immigrants?
The same immigrants that were used by the Canadian Media to assault the Conservative Party and steal the election?
Who went unvetted in the name of Liberal optics?
There’s your root cause.
Too bad there wasn’t an alternative news to report it.
And a Conservative one to scream it from the rooftop.
If the killers had been of the Caucasian persuasion, this info would have been released the minute they were apprehended.
Butts is prolly meeting with the MSM pimps to nail down the narrative before sending their presstitutes out to spread the word.
One thing is certain; the perps are moose limbs.
More please!
So now we need to bring in more unvetted So called Syrian muslim refugees because of Trump?.The irony is palpable.Trudeau quick to call it Terrorist attack er what happened to “militants”.As soon as Trudeau came on after Trump ban welcoming more Muzzies that was code word for Muzzies to attack.
Dailymail has it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170500/Five-dead-GUNMEN-open-fire-Mosque-Quebec-City.html
imagine this will now quiet down in the MSM, nothing to see here just muslims killing muslims
“one had an AK-47 automatic weapon in his possession…..”
But, but, but owning an automatic AK-47 is illegal in Canada!!!!!!!!!
Kind of ironic, listened to a bit of CBC’s Cross Country Check-up yesterday, the topic of course the US Ban on Muslims. The “alternative” facts where just a flying. Some of the more interesting ones, an Iraqi caller said “There has never been a terrorist attach in Canada” one of the guests said “Trump is the first president ever to have a travel ban” Sorry not quite true.
Trudeau is having trouble with Trump’s “just watch me” moment.
Liberals love this and want more of it, that’s why they are always advocating for it and softening the inevitable deadly consequences.
If it turns out to be Muslims killing other Muslims (perhaps for lack of devotion or other heretical activity), the CBC and Justin Trudeau will turn themselves inside out trying to explain how it had nothing to do with Islam.
No, the mental illness card is the go-to in these instances. If we find out one of the culprits was the mosque janitor, it’s “workplace violence”. It’s always scrubbed of the truth. Always.
Just two lone wolves is all. Just happened to be in the same place at the same time.
Alexandre Bissonette and Mohamed Kadir! A french Canadian white supremacist and a Morrocan Muslim working in concert. Who’da thought?
A tough riddle for the little potato.
What follows is not made up:
Wife and I at brunch the other day.
Young female server from Quebec presented some stuff on the restaurant’s Facebook.
I told her “we don’t do Facebook” and asked her if she’d heard about the 3-hour gang rape by Afghani “refugees” in Sweden streamed live on Facebook.
As God is my witness, her response: Trump is a fascist.
The foregoing was not made up.
I mentioned the Mohamed co-efficient in an earlier post last night and wake up this morning to find that it is 50%, unless the MSM are having a Marc Lepine/Gamil Garbi moment. We can only wait and see. In the meantime the MSM and the Liberals will be all over this like a wet blanket trying to spin it to strengthen their own agenda, which is more diversity, more refugees, more gun controls. Canadians being dumb as a bag of hockey pucks or moronically stupid (take your pick)will swallow their BS and will knuckle under. How much more are we willing to swallow before we say enough is enough.
What just does not JIVE what soever…
one of the suspects called 911……Really.? how the F does that even happen…? Unless…..
RIP to those that were killed…senseless except that it makes total sense in that it was Muslims Killing Muslims.
Thanks to our PIssante Progressive Prime Minister Pansy….of the “All Cultures are Equal” mentality…
We are going down the same road as Europe, the UK and Scandinavia.
Watch for limitations on Free Speech, more Cyber spying and more anti Hate laws designed to limit free Speech.
We are led by Ideologicaly driven Morons defiantly denying the TRUTH – ISLAM is incompatible with Western Culture.
A guy was stabbed and robbed in downtown Winnipeg a couple nights ago. CTV’s description of the perp: Blue jeans, a hoodie and big earphones.
That’s it….
If the government(s) involved (Canada, Quebec) know that this is factional Muslim violence, then their long delay in confirming that amounts to criminal irresponsibility, and relevant persons should resign immediately.
News management is for banana republics like Cuba or managed states like China. That might explain the above.
The virtue signalling going on in North America at this point has reached the critical load of Chernobyl five minutes before all the Ivans ran away. Time for Canadians to wake up and demand responsible government.
MND said: “As God is my witness, her response: Trump is a fascist.”
There’s a lot of that going around lately. I hope you didn’t eat anything there, because the b-tch probably spit in it.
Anyone know the French fellas new Muslim name since he perverted to Islam?
The Globe has the story. Please ignore most of the previous 74 shotgun theories.
Seems there is a new spin on things and maybe it was a white guy that did it alone. I’m calling my politician and demand protection from the backlash that may come from Muslims.
Fascinating to follow the various mental contortions, escalating paranoia, cognitive biases, and desperate hoop-jumping on display in these related comment threads, all in the service of preserving the purity of one’s anti-Muslim views.
It’s like watching the real-time birth of a conspiracy theory.
So….all you white Canadian men, are you ready to look inward and find your share in responsibility for this? You are about to be blamed and found guilty.
The Globe has the story.
That’s it then. If The Globe says it, it must be true.
well eli, it’s hard to get facts from the LLSM and Unionized cops, so guessing is the game, kinda like libtards in here don’t cha think?
Bull.
The police described Mohamed El Khadir as “armed”.
Either the Quebec police are lying or incredibly incompetent.
Well Eli, this turn of events IS surprising as 99.9% percent of past outrages have been an Islamic generated event. Come to think of it, this might be a first. I have no love, respect or tolerance for the hate filled supremacist Islamic faith, that much is true. Your Virtue pose is standard leftard ignorance in action. I’m not impressed.
kuzo >
“Greg Fergus, tweeted:….Words matter and hateful speeches have consequences!”
Maybe he meant words like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKUH2LkNZSU
On the fact that someone previously left a pig’s head with a “Bonne appetit” (sic) note at the doorstep of the Quebec Islamic Cultural Centre last June, a straw poll:
Do you:
A) condone
B) condemn
this act of mischief?
Don’t be shy now!
Like the 18 that were going to behead PM Harper on CBC?
Or has that fallen down the memory hole?
Eli >
“Anti-Semitic graffiti spray-painted on Machzikei Hadas synagogue”
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/swastika-machzikei-hadas-synagogue-1.3854868
Do you:
A) condone
B) condemn
this act of mischief?
Don’t be shy now!
“Bosnian Muslim SS”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8N2W74AULc
I wholeheartedly condemn that act of anti-Semitic graffiti, and all others like it. Your turn!
Does anyone keep track of the following after a Muslim is identified killing others?
1) Time taken after religion identified for Media to drop story
2) Time taken for Media to advise us “not to judge Muslims this way”
3) # of times we’ve been told not to associate religion with these episodes
Eli >
Easy, I’ve always condemned hatred of any kind, most pointedly that of the Liberal Progressive left, the most vile of any hateful totalitarian ideology working against western democratic society.
When you are quite done being smug, take some time to reflect on the larger picture.
Muslims kill each other ALL THE TIME. No one says anything.
Where is the outrage?
When they kill Buddhists, Hindus, Jews and Christians, there are myriad reasons BUT Islamism and these attacks are rare and lone wolves whose motivations are never known and let’s forget all about it.
Just like that.
People are told to get mad and they do so.
But who does so for the morally correct reasons?
I suggest not the people relieved that Bissonnette’s accomplice has disappeared from public view.
How quickly Canadians have forgotten Air India 182 (a Sikh extremist act but still a governmental muck-up), the attempted beheading of Harper, the shoot-out at the House of Commons and rise of political Islam and Trudeau’s comfort with it.
Their outrage and memory is selective.
Clearly, Canada needs to have strict gun control laws.
What? Oh……
From Montreal Gazette..
“The second man arrested Sunday night but later released is speaking out about what happened.
Mohamed Belkhadir, a 29-year-old engineering student, told La Presse that he was trying to provide first aide to shooting victims when police mistook him for a suspect. But he doesn’t hold it against police.
Belkhadir, who had called 911 after hearing 15 to 20 seconds of gunfire, said he fled when he saw someone with a firearm. He thought it was the shooter; in fact, it was a police officer.
“I understand, I respect, that they caught me,” he told La Presse. “They saw me flee, they thought I was suspicious, that’s normal. For them, someone who flees is a suspect.”
I am confused here.
1) Various witnesses stated there were 2 masked shooters. Where is the 2nd one and nobody in media is even asking.
2) Earlier story had Alexandre Bissonnette being “the caller” for 911 and “confessing” that he did something really bad.. So did Mohamed call also?
3) So police arrive the the scene and he is performing first aid and sees a guy with a gun ( police) and flees the building unopposed…
Why was he arrested is just performing first aid.. In error? Sure all the mosque congregation could have vouched for him. Why were no others arrested in error.
Would be interesting to know if Alexandre Bissonnette & Mohamed know each other..
There is something not right about this story…
aanirfan.blogspot.ca
This where it gets really interesting … Bissonnette has a twin brother
“Muslims kill each other ALL THE TIME. No one says anything.”
What are you on about? Have you not been paying any attention? A central argument for taking in refugees from the ME is the recognition that innocent Muslims are disproportionately the victims of both jihadist and state-sponsored violence in the ME. Everyone condemns IS. Everyone says so all the time. The difference is that most people are able, and willing, to distinguish between innocent Muslims and terrorists.
Are you? Are others here?
“Their outrage and memory is selective.”
If so, then no more than yours, and many others’ here. Where, after all, is SDA’s unqualified outrage over this Quebec City shooting? What was the intent and insinuation behind the “Centre Culturel Islamique de Québec” post preceding this one?
And no, Canadians haven’t “forgotten” Air India 182, or the “Toronto 18”, or the attack on Parliament Hill (do you actually have any evidence otherwise, or is this simply something that you’d like to be true?), though I have a sneaking suspicion that yesterday’s shooting will seldom be mentioned again on this blog.
“There is something not right about this story…”
…in that it doesn’t conform to my pre-existing biases against Muslims.
..in that it doesn’t conform to my pre-existing biases against Muslims
Oh deep thinker .. Project much?
Why not comment on the actual subject of the post…
George Bolger >
It would be interesting to know where Mohamed Belkhadir was certified in Canada for First Aid.
Otherwise it does seem surprising that various unanimous accounts of multiple attackers evaporates unanimously overnight with some Liberal Canadian political reflection.
Yet when we look at the various players defining the finalized story, Liberal Party, Islamic community, MSN, and whatever politicized Ottawa police department, it’s not surprising that average Canadians may have a problem with the sudden new narrative.
Got Adscam, and a few extra billion for a failed gun registry?
The people who died in San Bernadino and at Fort Hood probably thought they could tell the difference between terrorists and “ordinary Muslims.” Whoever gave truck keys to that guy in Nice probably did also. Just being smug does not make one smart or even right. But it is the only necessary requirement for victue signalling.
Maybe you should check the facts like I did before you shoot your foot off.
Eli, the killing of muslims by muslims is as old as Islam it’s self, the question I would ask, if they know they may become targets, why keep being a muslim and contributing to an ideaology that may wind up killing you. Same goes for catholics that are horrified their young son was molested by a priest. It’s being going on for a long time, so why do they expose their children to that possible abuse. And same goes for women that keep going back to an abusive relationship. Once you answer that, you may understand that many are cautious about letting people into the country who will go right back to the same old same old. If they were really interested in the violence to stop, they would disassociated themselves form Islam. They don’t, they just come here and change gears. Yes there are some who integrate in western cultures, just not that many.
Over a hundred comments and most of them are idiots sniping at each other, trying to prove that Carlin was right.
‘Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.’ George Carlin
“the question I would ask, if they know they may become targets, why keep being a muslim and contributing to an ideaology that may wind up killing you.”
Because they don’t see, or manifest, their religious faith that way. Youmight think it’s a self-evident fact that Islam is an ideology of violence, but the very existence of millions of your fellow Canadians/Americans who are Muslim and who have yet to murder you is proof of the fallacy of your thinking.
If you want pictures of Alex, go here:
http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-mosque-gunman-photos-pictures-facebook/
Okay. Now that it’s established that one Alex Bissonnette, a regular guy though somewhat introverted, is the perpetrator, here’s my question to anyone who reads this.
Where does a regular Joe get an AK47 in Canada?? It’s a serious question.
There are hings being reported that don’t make sense. Gun, witness accounts of multiple shooters, lack of carnage given the weapon allegedly used, and more. It’s curious.
Bissonette does not really sound like either one — jihaidst or anti-Muslim extremist. This whole story is very puzzling. Someone posted this link earlier and the profile of the accused shooter does not fit with the usual white supremacist, racist claims. (http://aanirfan.blogspot.ca). I am not even sure he is right wing, although he does seem to enjoy taking an alternative view on some issues (kind of like you, eh, Unome?) Lots of people do that. But this guys interests were elsewhere — he liked chess, for example. What is beginning to make some sense is an MKUltra type of mind control, using drugs. This story just does not fit the usual left or right narratives. Another issue is that today’s story from the police does not fit the narratives from last night that came directly from witnesses who claim TWO gunmen — and some say 3.