You won’t believe how Catherine McKenna expanded native territory ignoring facts, history and reason.
42 Replies to “Is it all native land now?”
I’d believe any politician would say anything rather than their prayers or the truth.
I’m not surprised. McKenna’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Brian, Is there some link to an article that goes with this? Perhaps you can tell us what Catherine McKenna is supposed to have said.
It gets worse.
My son’s Grade 8 graduation ceremony started with the school principal thanking the local natives and thanked them for “sharing their land with us”.
Her statement mentioned that all York Region District School Board gatherings and ceremonies now include this sort of acknowledgement.
A Liberal racist playing identity politics and making up shit as she goes along. “Liberals” like to believe that they can use Indians as a tool for their Marxist agenda, instead of “class warfare” they use “race warfare”… It helps the Liberals destroy or indefinitely delay any rational energy policy, it certainly isn’t because “Liberals” believe Indians are “special”, far from it, more like the soft bigotry of low expectations, useful idiots for the cause, divide and conquer. MacKenna is quite possibly even dumber than Justine the prancing Turd or that ignorant little troll Monsef, not to mention that McKenna has the most irritating voice I think I’ve ever heard, she sounds like she’s been kicked in the head by a unicorn everyday of her life, or maybe a magic beanstock fell on her head, a female Ed Grimly, “I must say”. She gives lispy Justine a run for the most irritating person in the history of people. MacKennas Indian name is “crazy white woman that you wish would shut the hell up”…. I must say.
Progressive politicians acquire Stockholm Syndrome when dealing with the Apartheid community. Here on the Left Coast we should begin every public meeting involving that community by reminding them that if it weren’t for the Royal Navy halting the routine genocide, slavery and cannibalism that kept most non Haida and Bella Coola tribes cowering and running from them, they most likely would be either Haida slaves or non-existent. The Haida have never forgiven them (us) and the rest, save a few elders, now adhere to a revised history when they aren’t guilting progressives and the SCOC into more reverse apartheid.
This is getting ubiquitous. I went to a play today, and the program and the moderator “respectfully acknowledged” we were on Algonquin land. First time I have seen that. I think we are being set up for something, what with signing that UN aboriginal rights thing. Whatever it is, I am pretty sure it will cost money.
Crimeny !! I thought they’d all be satisfied with hundreds of Casinos across the country.
“… I am pretty sure it will cost money.”
And much else.
if it weren’t for the Royal Navy halting the routine genocide, slavery and cannibalism that kept most non Haida and Bella Coola tribes cowering and running from them, they most likely would be either Haida slaves or non-existent.
very interesting… where is this documented? Not that I’m questioning your credibility, but when mentioning it I’d like to provide a more credible reference than ‘some guy on an internet blog said it’
About 30% of the Haida population was made up of slaves.
Slavery was widespread.
ojs.library.ubc.ca/index.php/bcstudies/article/viewFile/1792/1838
very interesting… where is this documented? Not that I’m questioning your credibility, but when mentioning it I’d like to provide a more credible reference than ‘some guy on an internet blog said it’ Just one of over 200. Google is your friend. You should try it yourself,instead of being lazy.
Having been involved in treaty negotiations while in local government and representing forest companies and government clients in (FN) consultations one picks up things, especially from actual (non blue-eyed blond ones with Scandinavian names) Indians and particularly elders passing down oral history. What I described above is relatively common knowledge to grey haired people from the Coastal resource sector. It isn’t politically correct so one doesn’t hear it discussed in “polite” company. There is a book (title escapes me) that describes the experience of Spanish sailors captured on Nootka Island who were kept fresh by be being buried up to their necks in beach sand until it was their turn to be eaten. The one that got away wrote about it.
No doubts about slavery as it was widespread among many aboriginal groups. However it was the cannibalism claim that I questioned since it’s highly disputed by the anthropological and historical researchers. While most historians and anthropologists today readily accept at least the possibility of ritual cannibalism, such as the tasting of blood or flesh of a fallen enemy or an executed captive, the more outrageous stories circulated among the competing fur traders and also recorded by some rather gullible Spanish observers who interviewed Europeans without actually visiting the Natives do not merit much attention. Indeed, more thoughtful English, Spanish, and other commentators who actually studied the question of indigenous anthropophagy dismissed the idea of
gustatory cannibalism. from Christon Archer’s commentary on Aboriginal Slavery on the
Northwest Coast of North America by Leland Donald
Yes. We just spent a couple of days on Vancouver Island, in particular in Campbell River, visiting my wife’s cousin. The cousin’s wife is fifth a generation Campbell River resident. She had a carved black stone slave club which was used to kill slaves or other miscreants with.
“Indeed, more thoughtful English, Spanish, and other commentators who actually studied the question of indigenous anthropophagy dismissed the idea of gustatory cannibalism.”
Yeah. Apologists for Injun history those folks were.
I know Injuns. They know their ancestors were cannibals, and not just the Mohawks, either. http://www.academia.edu/5099231/Iroquois_Cannibalism_Fact_Not_Fiction
I know personally a Blood(tribal name) Injun, from northern Alberta who talked of his people’s cannibalism and excused it as being religion based.
The last man hanged for cannibalism, Fort Saskatchewan Alberta 1879.
Cree Indian. http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/hanged/swiftrunner1.html
Yup, it’s very non-PC to talk or write about the Injuns being cannibals these days.
When I was a child, libraries, even ones available to children such as me in elementary schools, contained written accounts of Injun cannibalism in the early centuries of settlement. Of course now these writings have all been expunged from libraries and mostly the internet and the so-called “scholars” all claim that it was never true.
Even proof is very difficult to find. http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20000907&slug=4041058
Native land?????
Must be talking about Bingo halls….
“and thanked them for “sharing their land with us”.
During our local elections last fall, the first candidate stood up to do the obligatory “thank you to our native brethren for allowing us…”. Then the second candidate, naturally felt obligated to do the same. And the third.
And so on and so on.
I guess there are more broken down snowmobiles, fridges, and washing machines that need a lawn to be stored on.
Don’t laugh, McKenna has been touted as one of, if not the brightest in the Trudeau cabinet.
There is no behind that a Liberal will not kiss in order to stay in power. Facts mean absolutely nothing in the tsunami of unthinking, illogical narrative. And telling them to stop it is a waste of time because there is no block of voters that they won’t buy, verbally or substantially.
“Whatever it is, I am pretty sure it will cost money.”
You can bet on it.
From what I just read on the Internet
Typing in haida, cannibal
The journals of Captain Cook and his contemporaries would give an answer that the cannibalism was beyond ritual
From what I just read on the Internet
Typing in haida, cannibal
The journals of Captain Cook and his contemporaries would give an answer that the cannibalism was beyond ritual
From what I just read on the Internet
Typing in haida, cannibal
The journals of Captain Cook and his contemporaries would give an answer that the cannibalism was beyond ritual
* “The chief of the Squamish First Nation, Ian Campbell, said Wednesday that the
well-known downtown park should be renamed Xwayxway — pronounced
kwhy-kway — as it was known for thousands of years.”
Please… no more of this “oral history” bullshit… Christopher Pauchay couldn’t
even remember where he left his kids.
*
I come from Sarcee country. Sarcees don’t live there any more. The Cree chased the Athabascan Sarcee out of their homeland and now live by Calgary. So the Athabasca Valley is Cree and Stoney by the fact that they were more numerous or better killers. So are there rights by conquest or not?
When the cameras aren’t rolling and you are behind closed doors and talking one on one with low key small tribal hereditary leaders, you hear some interesting history, some verifying the role the British warships and Captains had in halting the genocide and slavery. I agree with former Chief Justice McEachern that Oral History is inadmissible in Treaty negotiations and land claims, but his wisdom was completely excised from the politically inspired subsequent and unending processes that followed.
From what I just read on the Internet
Typing in haida, cannibal
The journals of Captain Cook and his contemporaries would give an answer that the cannibalism was beyond ritual
The next time some insipid university administrator or minor official rises to “acknowledge our presence on unceded [name tribe] land, someone should get up to urge that everyone leave immediately and demand that the place be returned to the [name tribe] immediately. It’s now more common than “O’Canada” or whatever the national anthem is currently called.
Hydro One is selling 12 million shares to ‘natives’ @ $18. Current value is $26/share. What’s that another $100million+ gift?
“whatever the national anthem is currently called”
Hasn’t the wording been changed to “Bend Over White Man.” Saskatchewan Indians apparently have a third world AIDS rate. Just because they were allowed to be queer doesn’t mean they have to be queer. Someone explain it to them.
By doing this she ignores the 350 year war settlers and the colonies had with the Indians. The first mistake made by them was their first treaties with the French, which got them into a fight with the British before the Revolutionary War. After that, some treaties were made, broken by both sides, and the famous Supreme Court ruling maintaining the rights of the Cherokee, which the President said at the time” They have their ruling, now let us see them get it enforced.” In Canada the tribes did treaties with the Crown, they are still in force, until the windowlicking bedwetters try to cry them away. We have our Charter which the supreme court read into it that we have to consult, okay assholes we are going to build a pipeline right along here, you don’t like it? Sod off and by the by, we are cutting off all of your money that is derived from other pipelines. Oh and just a small favour, stop raping your female children on and off the reserves because as sure a shite, it aint a white guy doing it and where the hell are the mothers of these victims? I could tell you, but I would be called some very bad names. The reserves embody the Ferguson Effect and have so for decades. These are cultures of envy theft and rape, and they are still pissed that we stopped their time honoured acts of slavery. We are supposed to a land of laws, we have the indian get out of jail free card and the 30 minutes of sweat lodge versus 10 years in the slammer, which is the proper sentence. The continued existence of the culture of freemen under God and Law tells the indian everyday that theirs is a culture of failure. For a people who state that they had an intimate understanding of their environment with a 10,000 year headstart on the rest of us is proven daily, that they did not know jack shit. Where is their man on the moon? Where is their internal combustion engine? I will give them medium marks for pine tea which staved off scurvy, and a shout out for low volume production of maple syrup, but not much more than that. It took a bunch of drunken mean Scotsmen and their cohorts to tame this country, and we did, hey nice railroad you have there.
Agree that what you say is true. I’ve seen it and heard about the “rape” culture. more than once from people who have lived on reserve I can’t understand how small communities survive in provinces across Canada but these people can’t seem to help themselves and their communities are in dire need of assistance. By the way, look at the smiles…they love McKenna. She’s a blonde.
When forensic evidence is discovered and published showing that Canadian aboriginals were butchered and eaten then there will be proof of cannibalism. Until then it’s just conjecture and folktales to validate some people’s preconceived notions. Science requires proof, folktales only need consensus. Consensus doesn’t cut it, as you will recall from our discussions on GlobalWarmingClimateChange.
“When forensic evidence is discovered and published showing that Canadian aboriginals were butchered and eaten then there will be proof of cannibalism. Until then it’s just conjecture and folktales to validate some people’s preconceived notions. ”
Hogwash. If DNA evidence was the only acceptable proof, then 99.99 percent of recorded history that relied on nothing but eye-witness testimony and supporting circumstantial evidence would fall into your “conjecture and folktales” files.
Cannibalism was certainly not a “pan-Indian” practice. But as noted by scholars Diamond Jenness, George T. Hunt, and a host of others, the Jesuits (despite all their many other faults) were scrupulous documenters of fact – and they recorded numerous instances of ritual cannibalism among some Iroquoian tribes.
The word `Mohawk` was in use long before Columbus and Co. hit the Continent. It comes from the Narragansett (Atlantic-coast Algonquin tribe) word mohowawog – the literal translation of which is `man-eaters`.
And it wasn`t just the Jesuits, and it wasn`t just certain Iroquoian tribes, and it wasn`t just confined to Canada. Explorers witnessed it in the West, Mexico, Central America, and South America as well.
If DNA evidence was the only acceptable proof,
…and of course that is not the case and therefore the whole argument is spurious.
Some people understand the science of forensic anthropology, the person who made that statement is obviously not one of them. Maybe they’re drinking too much hogwash.
This is forensic evidence:
Neanderthal bones uncovered in a Belgium cave show unmistakable signs of butchery, and scientists said they are the first evidence of Neanderthal cannibalism in northern Europe.
Archaeologists pieced together 99 bone fragments to identify five distinct Neanderthals, four adults and a child, who lived between 40,500 and 45,500 years ago. Markings on the bones included indentations from hammering (likely to remove bone marrow), and cut marks from carving the flesh away from the bone. Also in the cave were the remains of horses and reindeer, which had been similarly butchered. http://www.livescience.com/55343-neanderthal-cannibalism-northern-europe.html
One of science’s most puzzling mysteries – the disappearance of the Neanderthals – may have been solved. Modern humans ate them, says a leading fossil expert.
The controversial suggestion follows publication of a study in the Journal of Anthropological Sciences about a Neanderthal jawbone apparently butchered by modern humans. Now the leader of the research team says he believes the flesh had been eaten by humans, while its teeth may have been used to make a necklace.
Fernando Rozzi, of Paris’s Centre National de la Récherche Scientifique, said the jawbone had probably been cut into to remove flesh, including the tongue. Crucially, the butchery was similar to that used by humans to cut up deer carcass in the early Stone Age. “Neanderthals met a violent end at our hands and in some cases we ate them,” Rozzi said. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/may/17/neanderthals-cannibalism-anthropological-sciences-journal
Embrace your ethic specialty, we are all Metis now.
So what tribe was Jeoffry Dahmer?
I actually went to listen to my local luvvies and that minister talk about climate change.
Left after 2 minutes, the “minister” spoke first; Bragging about her ignorance of climate, weather and history.
Citing her “experience” working for the UN.
Only in Canada.
Where arrogance,ignorance and zero work experience are “credits”.
According to this minister,CC is real and the science proving it is at Environment Canada’s Website.
I looked, they have moderated their stance,no more”Environment Canada’s Science”, I guess someone told them how stupid that expression was.
No explanation of how they know the era of 1948 -2013 is special warming caused by man, yet the 1880-1948 period was natural.
But they are Liberals;We have always been at war with Oceana.
“Some people understand the science of forensic anthropology, the person who made that statement is obviously not one of them. Maybe they’re drinking too much hogwash…”
Heee, heeeeee, that would be me.
But you’ve lost credibility again jean. Just like your statement a few days ago that real estate agents often recommend energy audits.
Fact is, and everybody knows it, cannibalism was practiced by some Indian tribes in Canada. Big Deal. It isn’t right or wrong, it’s just history.
I’d believe any politician would say anything rather than their prayers or the truth.
I’m not surprised. McKenna’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Brian, Is there some link to an article that goes with this? Perhaps you can tell us what Catherine McKenna is supposed to have said.
It gets worse.
My son’s Grade 8 graduation ceremony started with the school principal thanking the local natives and thanked them for “sharing their land with us”.
Her statement mentioned that all York Region District School Board gatherings and ceremonies now include this sort of acknowledgement.
A Liberal racist playing identity politics and making up shit as she goes along. “Liberals” like to believe that they can use Indians as a tool for their Marxist agenda, instead of “class warfare” they use “race warfare”… It helps the Liberals destroy or indefinitely delay any rational energy policy, it certainly isn’t because “Liberals” believe Indians are “special”, far from it, more like the soft bigotry of low expectations, useful idiots for the cause, divide and conquer. MacKenna is quite possibly even dumber than Justine the prancing Turd or that ignorant little troll Monsef, not to mention that McKenna has the most irritating voice I think I’ve ever heard, she sounds like she’s been kicked in the head by a unicorn everyday of her life, or maybe a magic beanstock fell on her head, a female Ed Grimly, “I must say”. She gives lispy Justine a run for the most irritating person in the history of people. MacKennas Indian name is “crazy white woman that you wish would shut the hell up”…. I must say.
Progressive politicians acquire Stockholm Syndrome when dealing with the Apartheid community. Here on the Left Coast we should begin every public meeting involving that community by reminding them that if it weren’t for the Royal Navy halting the routine genocide, slavery and cannibalism that kept most non Haida and Bella Coola tribes cowering and running from them, they most likely would be either Haida slaves or non-existent. The Haida have never forgiven them (us) and the rest, save a few elders, now adhere to a revised history when they aren’t guilting progressives and the SCOC into more reverse apartheid.
This is getting ubiquitous. I went to a play today, and the program and the moderator “respectfully acknowledged” we were on Algonquin land. First time I have seen that. I think we are being set up for something, what with signing that UN aboriginal rights thing. Whatever it is, I am pretty sure it will cost money.
Crimeny !! I thought they’d all be satisfied with hundreds of Casinos across the country.
“… I am pretty sure it will cost money.”
And much else.
if it weren’t for the Royal Navy halting the routine genocide, slavery and cannibalism that kept most non Haida and Bella Coola tribes cowering and running from them, they most likely would be either Haida slaves or non-existent.
very interesting… where is this documented? Not that I’m questioning your credibility, but when mentioning it I’d like to provide a more credible reference than ‘some guy on an internet blog said it’
About 30% of the Haida population was made up of slaves.
Slavery was widespread.
ojs.library.ubc.ca/index.php/bcstudies/article/viewFile/1792/1838
very interesting… where is this documented? Not that I’m questioning your credibility, but when mentioning it I’d like to provide a more credible reference than ‘some guy on an internet blog said it’ Just one of over 200. Google is your friend. You should try it yourself,instead of being lazy.
Having been involved in treaty negotiations while in local government and representing forest companies and government clients in (FN) consultations one picks up things, especially from actual (non blue-eyed blond ones with Scandinavian names) Indians and particularly elders passing down oral history. What I described above is relatively common knowledge to grey haired people from the Coastal resource sector. It isn’t politically correct so one doesn’t hear it discussed in “polite” company. There is a book (title escapes me) that describes the experience of Spanish sailors captured on Nootka Island who were kept fresh by be being buried up to their necks in beach sand until it was their turn to be eaten. The one that got away wrote about it.
No doubts about slavery as it was widespread among many aboriginal groups. However it was the cannibalism claim that I questioned since it’s highly disputed by the anthropological and historical researchers.
While most historians and anthropologists today readily accept at least the possibility of ritual cannibalism, such as the tasting of blood or flesh of a fallen enemy or an executed captive, the more outrageous stories circulated among the competing fur traders and also recorded by some rather gullible Spanish observers who interviewed Europeans without actually visiting the Natives do not merit much attention. Indeed, more thoughtful English, Spanish, and other commentators who actually studied the question of indigenous anthropophagy dismissed the idea of
gustatory cannibalism. from Christon Archer’s commentary on Aboriginal Slavery on the
Northwest Coast of North America by Leland Donald
Yes. We just spent a couple of days on Vancouver Island, in particular in Campbell River, visiting my wife’s cousin. The cousin’s wife is fifth a generation Campbell River resident. She had a carved black stone slave club which was used to kill slaves or other miscreants with.
“Indeed, more thoughtful English, Spanish, and other commentators who actually studied the question of indigenous anthropophagy dismissed the idea of gustatory cannibalism.”
Yeah. Apologists for Injun history those folks were.
I know Injuns. They know their ancestors were cannibals, and not just the Mohawks, either.
http://www.academia.edu/5099231/Iroquois_Cannibalism_Fact_Not_Fiction
I know personally a Blood(tribal name) Injun, from northern Alberta who talked of his people’s cannibalism and excused it as being religion based.
The last man hanged for cannibalism, Fort Saskatchewan Alberta 1879.
Cree Indian.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/hanged/swiftrunner1.html
Yup, it’s very non-PC to talk or write about the Injuns being cannibals these days.
When I was a child, libraries, even ones available to children such as me in elementary schools, contained written accounts of Injun cannibalism in the early centuries of settlement. Of course now these writings have all been expunged from libraries and mostly the internet and the so-called “scholars” all claim that it was never true.
Even proof is very difficult to find.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20000907&slug=4041058
Native land?????
Must be talking about Bingo halls….
“and thanked them for “sharing their land with us”.
During our local elections last fall, the first candidate stood up to do the obligatory “thank you to our native brethren for allowing us…”. Then the second candidate, naturally felt obligated to do the same. And the third.
And so on and so on.
Liberals Follow Art:
Running Bear – Johnny Preston – 1959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3meEmDpaDU
I guess there are more broken down snowmobiles, fridges, and washing machines that need a lawn to be stored on.
Don’t laugh, McKenna has been touted as one of, if not the brightest in the Trudeau cabinet.
There is no behind that a Liberal will not kiss in order to stay in power. Facts mean absolutely nothing in the tsunami of unthinking, illogical narrative. And telling them to stop it is a waste of time because there is no block of voters that they won’t buy, verbally or substantially.
“Whatever it is, I am pretty sure it will cost money.”
You can bet on it.
From what I just read on the Internet
Typing in haida, cannibal
The journals of Captain Cook and his contemporaries would give an answer that the cannibalism was beyond ritual
From what I just read on the Internet
Typing in haida, cannibal
The journals of Captain Cook and his contemporaries would give an answer that the cannibalism was beyond ritual
From what I just read on the Internet
Typing in haida, cannibal
The journals of Captain Cook and his contemporaries would give an answer that the cannibalism was beyond ritual
*
“The chief of the Squamish First Nation, Ian Campbell, said Wednesday that the
well-known downtown park should be renamed Xwayxway — pronounced
kwhy-kway — as it was known for thousands of years.”
Please… no more of this “oral history” bullshit… Christopher Pauchay couldn’t
even remember where he left his kids.
*
I come from Sarcee country. Sarcees don’t live there any more. The Cree chased the Athabascan Sarcee out of their homeland and now live by Calgary. So the Athabasca Valley is Cree and Stoney by the fact that they were more numerous or better killers. So are there rights by conquest or not?
When the cameras aren’t rolling and you are behind closed doors and talking one on one with low key small tribal hereditary leaders, you hear some interesting history, some verifying the role the British warships and Captains had in halting the genocide and slavery. I agree with former Chief Justice McEachern that Oral History is inadmissible in Treaty negotiations and land claims, but his wisdom was completely excised from the politically inspired subsequent and unending processes that followed.
From what I just read on the Internet
Typing in haida, cannibal
The journals of Captain Cook and his contemporaries would give an answer that the cannibalism was beyond ritual
The next time some insipid university administrator or minor official rises to “acknowledge our presence on unceded [name tribe] land, someone should get up to urge that everyone leave immediately and demand that the place be returned to the [name tribe] immediately. It’s now more common than “O’Canada” or whatever the national anthem is currently called.
Hydro One is selling 12 million shares to ‘natives’ @ $18. Current value is $26/share. What’s that another $100million+ gift?
“whatever the national anthem is currently called”
Hasn’t the wording been changed to “Bend Over White Man.” Saskatchewan Indians apparently have a third world AIDS rate. Just because they were allowed to be queer doesn’t mean they have to be queer. Someone explain it to them.
By doing this she ignores the 350 year war settlers and the colonies had with the Indians. The first mistake made by them was their first treaties with the French, which got them into a fight with the British before the Revolutionary War. After that, some treaties were made, broken by both sides, and the famous Supreme Court ruling maintaining the rights of the Cherokee, which the President said at the time” They have their ruling, now let us see them get it enforced.” In Canada the tribes did treaties with the Crown, they are still in force, until the windowlicking bedwetters try to cry them away. We have our Charter which the supreme court read into it that we have to consult, okay assholes we are going to build a pipeline right along here, you don’t like it? Sod off and by the by, we are cutting off all of your money that is derived from other pipelines. Oh and just a small favour, stop raping your female children on and off the reserves because as sure a shite, it aint a white guy doing it and where the hell are the mothers of these victims? I could tell you, but I would be called some very bad names. The reserves embody the Ferguson Effect and have so for decades. These are cultures of envy theft and rape, and they are still pissed that we stopped their time honoured acts of slavery. We are supposed to a land of laws, we have the indian get out of jail free card and the 30 minutes of sweat lodge versus 10 years in the slammer, which is the proper sentence. The continued existence of the culture of freemen under God and Law tells the indian everyday that theirs is a culture of failure. For a people who state that they had an intimate understanding of their environment with a 10,000 year headstart on the rest of us is proven daily, that they did not know jack shit. Where is their man on the moon? Where is their internal combustion engine? I will give them medium marks for pine tea which staved off scurvy, and a shout out for low volume production of maple syrup, but not much more than that. It took a bunch of drunken mean Scotsmen and their cohorts to tame this country, and we did, hey nice railroad you have there.
Agree that what you say is true. I’ve seen it and heard about the “rape” culture. more than once from people who have lived on reserve I can’t understand how small communities survive in provinces across Canada but these people can’t seem to help themselves and their communities are in dire need of assistance. By the way, look at the smiles…they love McKenna. She’s a blonde.
When forensic evidence is discovered and published showing that Canadian aboriginals were butchered and eaten then there will be proof of cannibalism. Until then it’s just conjecture and folktales to validate some people’s preconceived notions. Science requires proof, folktales only need consensus. Consensus doesn’t cut it, as you will recall from our discussions on GlobalWarmingClimateChange.
“When forensic evidence is discovered and published showing that Canadian aboriginals were butchered and eaten then there will be proof of cannibalism. Until then it’s just conjecture and folktales to validate some people’s preconceived notions. ”
Hogwash. If DNA evidence was the only acceptable proof, then 99.99 percent of recorded history that relied on nothing but eye-witness testimony and supporting circumstantial evidence would fall into your “conjecture and folktales” files.
Cannibalism was certainly not a “pan-Indian” practice. But as noted by scholars Diamond Jenness, George T. Hunt, and a host of others, the Jesuits (despite all their many other faults) were scrupulous documenters of fact – and they recorded numerous instances of ritual cannibalism among some Iroquoian tribes.
The word `Mohawk` was in use long before Columbus and Co. hit the Continent. It comes from the Narragansett (Atlantic-coast Algonquin tribe) word mohowawog – the literal translation of which is `man-eaters`.
And it wasn`t just the Jesuits, and it wasn`t just certain Iroquoian tribes, and it wasn`t just confined to Canada. Explorers witnessed it in the West, Mexico, Central America, and South America as well.
If DNA evidence was the only acceptable proof,
…and of course that is not the case and therefore the whole argument is spurious.
Some people understand the science of forensic anthropology, the person who made that statement is obviously not one of them. Maybe they’re drinking too much hogwash.
This is forensic evidence:
Neanderthal bones uncovered in a Belgium cave show unmistakable signs of butchery, and scientists said they are the first evidence of Neanderthal cannibalism in northern Europe.
Archaeologists pieced together 99 bone fragments to identify five distinct Neanderthals, four adults and a child, who lived between 40,500 and 45,500 years ago. Markings on the bones included indentations from hammering (likely to remove bone marrow), and cut marks from carving the flesh away from the bone. Also in the cave were the remains of horses and reindeer, which had been similarly butchered.
http://www.livescience.com/55343-neanderthal-cannibalism-northern-europe.html
One of science’s most puzzling mysteries – the disappearance of the Neanderthals – may have been solved. Modern humans ate them, says a leading fossil expert.
The controversial suggestion follows publication of a study in the Journal of Anthropological Sciences about a Neanderthal jawbone apparently butchered by modern humans. Now the leader of the research team says he believes the flesh had been eaten by humans, while its teeth may have been used to make a necklace.
Fernando Rozzi, of Paris’s Centre National de la Récherche Scientifique, said the jawbone had probably been cut into to remove flesh, including the tongue. Crucially, the butchery was similar to that used by humans to cut up deer carcass in the early Stone Age. “Neanderthals met a violent end at our hands and in some cases we ate them,” Rozzi said.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2009/may/17/neanderthals-cannibalism-anthropological-sciences-journal
Embrace your ethic specialty, we are all Metis now.
So what tribe was Jeoffry Dahmer?
I actually went to listen to my local luvvies and that minister talk about climate change.
Left after 2 minutes, the “minister” spoke first; Bragging about her ignorance of climate, weather and history.
Citing her “experience” working for the UN.
Only in Canada.
Where arrogance,ignorance and zero work experience are “credits”.
According to this minister,CC is real and the science proving it is at Environment Canada’s Website.
I looked, they have moderated their stance,no more”Environment Canada’s Science”, I guess someone told them how stupid that expression was.
No explanation of how they know the era of 1948 -2013 is special warming caused by man, yet the 1880-1948 period was natural.
But they are Liberals;We have always been at war with Oceana.
“Some people understand the science of forensic anthropology, the person who made that statement is obviously not one of them. Maybe they’re drinking too much hogwash…”
Heee, heeeeee, that would be me.
But you’ve lost credibility again jean. Just like your statement a few days ago that real estate agents often recommend energy audits.
Fact is, and everybody knows it, cannibalism was practiced by some Indian tribes in Canada. Big Deal. It isn’t right or wrong, it’s just history.