The critical thing is not to get bound up in a further exercise of that stultifying doctrine of paralysis known as the ‘precautionary principle’ so beloved of the Khmer Vert eco-(in)activists. If we had never acted in any different fashion until we were absolutely certain of the outcome, we’d still be swinging from branches in the primaeval forest canopy.
Yes, there are risks – some calculable, many not – but there are also opportunities aplenty. That is why it is so shrewdly disingenuous of Project Fear to play up all the things that might go wrong and to try to paint the Leave camp’s case as insubstantial simply because the latter are being honest enough not to offer an entirely bogus prospectus of what they will do, once they’re out.
For the record, I don’t see Brexit as a panacea, but merely the chance to manage one’s own affairs and to conduct one’s own debates over what should or should not be done by the state in one’s name. As in all things, I hew to the principle that politics should be as parochial as possible, that we should be able to grab a delinquent politician by his lapels at any moment and set him to rights, as well as to clap a diligent one on the back in acclamation when he pops in the local pub for a pint.
Related: polling carried out for ‘The Independent’ shows that 55 per cent of UK voters intend to vote for Britain to leave the EU in the 23 June referendum
h/t Harry
It is only a matter of time before turdo la doo and his arse-lickers give their worthless pro-EU opinions. Pity that our pathetic press wouldn’t have a couple of questions waiting:
Q: So, you would be in favour of entering similar economic and political union with the US?
Q: If a previous Canadian government had arranged a similar union with the US, you would be urging us to remain?
Jamie,
The only comment Canada should make is saying we appreciate a stable, prosperous Europe and UK. As one of the worlds oldest democracies U.K. voters will make their own determination of how they want to manage their affairs. We appreciate them as friends, allies and trading partners no matter the result.
That’s it. Nothing about how we want the vote to go. That’s what we would want it in a separation debate.
That or say nothing. Not our business, officially. Personally people can say and wish for whatever they want.
The case for Brexit or Remain can be summed up in one short phrase, freedom or socialist slavery. It is better to have some pain on occasion and be free then have a state look after you in an ever tightening grip.
“The only comment Canada should make …”
What do you think the chances of that happening are?
It’s the difference between owning your home and being a king or queen in your castle or belonging to a condo paying high never ending fees and living under someone else’s ever tightening rules.
Top story on Druge today: Leave = 55%, Remain = 45%
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Jaimie,
Unfortunately there will be a gathering of world leaders to try to patch it up or prevent. The EU, based on its history is very hard to defend to the majority of people. The common market was easy to defend it brought real benefits. The Brits were very fortunate that the kept their currency. Brussels is a mess. It could be something different, but that’s not how it was designed.
Europe is facing many common challenges, but I am not so sure those challenges cant be met by European nations co-ordinating as independent entities rather than expecting Brussels to act, it has neither the will, the character or the tools to do whats necessary. It is superfluous and deadweight. Are the Europeans so worried that they will go to war with each other again?
Going back to common market might make dealing with Turkey easier as well. The stakes are so much lower.
But the same dynamics are at play as they have always been, Russian meddling and interest, threats and meddling from Turkey, fears of German dominance, French desire for a Grand Empire they control and British adding their weight to whichever side suits their interests.
But I sure hope Canada does not express a desire one way or another. But its too tempting for certain individuals who see their interest and not the national interest.
Khmer Vert
What a very apt and descriptive name for the present bunch of enviro-facists.
And they are simply masters of using the “perfect” as the enemy of the “good” when it suits their agenda.
BBC’s panicking, LOL.
The real question here is whether the British elites will actually allow the Brexit to happen once the people vote for it.
Stephen;
As a rule I have absolute disdain for the Euro reality, less so for the Brits but still is there as well. USA and Canada bailed these people out in WW I with a rince and repeat in WW II. The Cold War saw a continuation of the money drain into a group of countries would not pay their own bills. Bosnia, Libya, Kuwait,Iraq, Afganistan etc etc.
The only question for me is whether a UK exit is the ‘black swan’ that triggers a global collapse of the credit confidence in markets. With the history of these countries it would be no surprise to see a very negative reaction. My reading suggests that almost 50% of Italian bank loans are non or under performing. French banks are hugely over extended. A harsh review of Euro finance could easily be extended to Japan and China and thusly the ‘black swan’.
Have read and heard form many who say that Brits want off the sinking boat no matter the short term pain.
As a result of all this and because of high market valuations I am raising cash and will wait until the vote before reinvesting in this enviromant.
socialists. see, the thing is, common with the mentality of politishuns, have themselves convinced that ‘just another round of tweaking and things will get back on track’. failing to realize the constant tweaking is the thing that derailed it in the first place. there are economic and social and political forces that are like the law of gravity, they WILL have their way, they WILL prevail over *anything* paltry pathetic humahns conjure.
every generation thinks they’re the ones that will finally succeed.
no, because there are vast unknowns and uncontrollables equally constantly undoing your policies and regulations and laws. there are always underground economies, there are always loopholes (politishuns NEVER play devils advocate looking for them). on and on.
the voters for their part likewise practice self delusion, believing the promises and propaganda and wishful thinking.
Soooo! Andy Coyne & Postmedia is starting to have second thoughts about a European Union Brussels Bureaucracy as being a “good thing”. Is this because it appears likely Great Britian is shaking off the Bureaucratic Aristocracy of Continental Europe in preference for the Home Grown Bureacracy?
Is it possible the Central Canada Laurentien Elite are starting to realize their Just in Puppet Government Liberal Party Autocratic Control of the Nineteen Thrities and Fifties will actually send Rural Ontario to Join with Canada West as a Separate Country.
Possibly joiniing with a Re-energized Republican U.S.A. within whatever this potentially border Changing 2016 Presidential Election brings.
I am sure they can replace EC colonial status with a trade deal. The UK beat the goose-steppers 70 years ago but are now polishing their boots. A big problem is the Soviet Socialist Republic of Scotland. While the Scot in me thinks the UK breaking up would be tragic, the realist says who the eff cares. Might not actually hurt the Scots one bit to grow up.
“The case for Brexit or Remain can be summed up in one short phrase, freedom or socialist slavery.”
I wouldn’t describe the UK status quo sans the EU as freedom per se as the UK has more than their fare share of socialist slavery already. However, getting out from under an incremental layer of (unaccountable) bureaucracy nominally under another level of uber-national parliament is always and everywhere a good idea.
The big question is what will follow Brexit. Germany next? France? Who will hang in there to support the PIGS.
Brits need to give Soros some well deserved Payback.
https://mikeyy.org/2015/11/06/evil-soros-plans-the-destruction-of-europe/
“This Western mindset and this activist network is perhaps best represented by George Soros.”
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Would love to watch that bastard toss, turn, cuss and cry when he tries to sleep..
interesting idea, totally makes sense about rural Ontario joining with the west to form a new non-socialist country.
The tribalism of the euro trash guarantees it’s collapse. The Poles hate the Germans the Germans hate the Dutch the Swedes hate
The Finns the French are universally despised and so on.
The international money market is a giant ponzi scheme.
Can the EU succeed with these conditions?
A black swan is inevitable. Sock up on the essentials: wine, books, ammo, friends…
The pollsters are only NOW catching up to the REAL public opinion on the BREXIT. Just in time to save face, when the voters do the exact opposite of what they predicted. Same as with the last Brit election. Same as with every Trump prediction. Just as we have all discovered the extreme leftist media bias … we have now all discovered the extreme pollster bias and their pathetic attempt to PUSH public opinion.
Having lived in Northern Ontario, I can say it is an NDP stronghold. Expecting it to contribute to a non-Socialist country is a pipe dream.
Northern Ontario is messed up by the fools south. Electricity is same cost to all regardless of generation cost, due to the “green” fiasco started by D. mcGuinty, continued by Wynne. Glen Murray enviro minister is a failed Winnipeg mayoral candidate. That tells it.
I agree with totally Jamie could have said it any better!
“…will actually send Rural Ontario to Join with Canada West as a Separate Country.”
We can only dream.
Exactly! I agree. “Khmer Vert” is a perfect description and describes what is happening in Canada as well. Khmer Vert is the child of Khmer Rouge.
I agree. I should have said a possible return to freedom if the people so wish. Hayek warned about the socialist slavery to come if the people wanted the government to take care of their every need.
Very few refuse ‘something for nothing ‘. That is the allure of socialism.
Many years ago I heard Sheila Copps make the statement, “tell us what you want and we’ll get it for you.” What voter is going to resist? Of course it’s nonsense – there is no such thing as something for nothing.
This is what we’re up against. The Libranos are masters at selling this snake oil message.
CT
Err by definition its not then a black swan !
Like many you are seeing a risk and acting accordingly. Thats not a Black Swan.
2480
The eu and the United Nations will keep voting until they get the desired results it’s that simple .
I agree; Northern Ontario will probably stay with Quebec except for the Western part, maybe West of a line drawn North from Sault Set Marie to James/Hudson’s Bay.
My understanding the Individualism stills survives in this part of Northern Ontario. My Rural Ontario includes all of the Ontarrrario, if y’all remember the “pied piper” song, except the Greater Toronto Area, including Mississauga; Oakville; Brampton and Possibly London- which will entail difficult to administer border difficulties.
The remaing Rural Ontarrrrio will not in my opinion create any Problem. The Niagara Peninsula and Hamilton/Burlington will be onside, if only to obatin a N.H.L. Franchise :)- Possibly with the South-West from Hamilton/Burlingto over to Windsor. Beyond the Detroit River ? Cheers;