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Amazing what the populace actually wants:

With cheaper gas, the guzzler is making a comeback
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Full-sized pickup trucks represented 18.5 per cent of Canadian vehicle sales in March, compared with the long-time average of about 15 per cent.
Sales of the F-Series pickup by Ford Motor Co. of Canada Ltd. were the highest of any month in the company’s history in March. More than half the buyers of Ford vehicles in Canada last month bought an F-Series.
Sales of subcompact cars have hit the skids. They fell 16 per cent in the first two months of 2016 from year-earlier levels.
Sales of fuel-sipping hybrid vehicles have fallen by 8,000 units in the past three years, Mr. DesRosiers [DesRosiers Automotive Consultants Inc.] said, and Canadians buy about 3,000 electric vehicles a year in an overall market that hit 1.89 million vehicles last year.
The infatuation governments have for electric vehicles and hybrids is “highly misplaced,” he said…

Shiny pony and Leap Manifesters noticing? Time for a serious government crackdown on the people’s will? And boy that middle class sure is feeling the pain:

Canadian auto sales off to ‘dream start’ through March
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What is to be done?

49 Replies to “Green This”

  2. Yeah we are evil and need instruction, hair shirts, a life of impoverishment by our leftist betters – no mind that smallish trucks are good for going through snow, useful for DIY etc. etc. – things that Trrontonians don’t know anything about.

  3. “With cheaper gas, the guzzler is making a comeback” … but a hefty carbon tax should remedy that.

  4. When you are a trust fund baby genetically famous, unproductive, vacuous, and the Prime Ministerial puppet of a green zealot, it’s hard to relate to people who have actual job skills and choose Pick-ups as the preferred form of transportation. I suspect that the Spawn will do his Butt’s-approved damnedest to change all of that.

  7. uhuh.
    aaaaaand when fickle market conditions launch prices in the 100 dollar range, watch for all the deals. maybe that’s when I ‘pick up’ one !!!

  8. I know the latte environmentalists who work in white collar city jobs love to bash on us pickup drivers,and love to relate tales of the city guys they see driving up and down the strip to show off their machine,BUT, those of us who work for a living outside the cozy confines of a downtown office need the f***ing things.
    You can’t run a logging, forestry, or construction business without using trucks. Smart cars don’t cut it on a frozen logging road North of Fort St.James, when you’re towing a trailer with a ton of equipment, in the dead of Winter.
    We buy the vehicles we need to get the job done,and if we didn’t, it wouldn’t get done, and what would the Toronto set do without their charmin?
    You city dwelling greenies drive what you need,and we’ll drive what we have to,there ain’t no subway where the real work of this Country gets done.
    And if I sound like a pissed off redneck,so be it.

  9. Donny, I would say you are simply articulating the realities of the world outside the glass bubble. They can get the military to shovel their driveways and we’ll continue to just plow through it.

  10. Bah…I bought my 5.0 Mustang back when premium was north of 1.40/L. Didn’t give a rats ass what gas cost then and I don’t care what it costs today. Scuze me while I blow the doors off this Prius…

  13. Well now, I looked at importing a golf GTi, that could get 30mpg, and blow the doors off your “stang”, even if it has the 500HP flat crank 5 litre:-)))

  14. Gas was at $1.50 a litre. That didn’t stop people from buying trucks. Gas prices has increased at least four-fold in the last 15 years. That didn’t stop people from buying trucks.
    I too suspect a carbon tax is becoming attractive to spendthrift governments because consumers are already accustomed to paying higher gas prices.
    Anyway most people are sheeple who have no idea how much big government costs them and everybody else. Math is too hard for most; there is never a debate about much government is too much. Of course the ignorant, unethical mediocracy, having no math skills and who, coincidentally, are lovers of statism, never consider that question, preferring to wax critical about Duffy, inconsequential niqabs or telepathically induced violence, rather than fake recessions, vacuous platforms and running up debt at precisely the wrong time.

  16. A quote from the Globe and Mail article.
    ”The average fuel consumption of new vehicles rose to 10.3 litres for every 100 kilometres travelled last year from 10.28 litres in 2014. That deterioration reversed the improvement in fuel economy since 2011, when new vehicles on average took 10.91 litres of gas to travel 100 kilometres.”
    My family owned a filling station, a bulk fuel plant and later on a Ford dealership. There is no method of measuring fuel consumption to the nearest 2 hundredths of a liter per 100 Ks. Fuel consumption varies widely form one driver to the next, as it does between two identical vehicles.
    And am I seeing wrong here–but both the words ”travelled” and ”kilometres” (French spelling) are misspelled.
    If they can’t spell, perhaps they can’t measure fuel consumption any better.
    I’ve traveled many miles in F-150s, and also drove many thousands of kilometers. My guess is they usually get, on average, 18 MPG. (US gallons.)

  18. So true, mon ami ! I have heard many an economist warn of the massive junk auto debt in America. Too many bad risk loans that could bubble-up at the slightest reversal of the ObamaCONomy

  19. “What is to be done?” From Lenin’s writings.
    I expect that the LEAP proponents have cures for the population’s love for fuel guzzlers and in fact any vehicles. Stalin said everyone should be able to walk to work.
    That said, we love our GMC 1500 4 x 4 and our Honda Pilot.

  20. The average fuel consumption of new vehicles rose to 10.3 litres for every 100 kilometres travelled last year from 10.28 litres in 2014.

    They’re probably gathering this info from the most useless source imaginable, the “official” Environment Canada sticker.
    My car, with the exact same engine, same transmission, same everything, has seen its consumption rating “officially” increased by more than 20% between the model year I bought it and last year.
    It’s a joke that anyone would wring their hands over a .02 L/100km difference with a rating system as inaccurate as that which Environment Canada employs.
    But that’s socialists for you.

  21. lol !!!
    oh no no no no no. none of that. the ‘reason’ the stats are so accurate is da gubbamint has HACKED all the wifi or whateverthefcuk those quickie emergency response systems use, and monitor every meter of movement our vehicles cross. that FBI-Apple case is just a cover in case any ‘rumours’ leak out.
    I saw this on an episode of ‘Person of Interest’.
    welcome to your future. all part of the process in the intwests of da childwen.
    oh lordy lordy. the entertainment value alone . . . . lol !!!

  22. The whole concept of carbon taxes is already built into the price of energy, use more pay more. Carbon taxes are a total fraud based on a total fraud, man made climate change.
    Greeners are fascists that need to be removed from policy tables everywhere because they are so ignorant.
    They have no idea how a light switch works.
    They have no idea how their homes are heated.
    They have no idea of infrastructure re cell phones, energy, internet.
    They have no idea how fresh food gets to the grocery store every day.
    They have no idea how health care works.
    They have no idea how our modern economy works to provide services they use every day.
    They take all this for granted.
    Most of these people are ignorant concrete tower dwellers from cities who think the world is paved.
    The clueless are in power…..
    My god what a crap situation this is. These people are not only ignorant, they are stupid and arrogant. They think they can do no wrong.
    Welcome to the Liberal Party with Mr Selfie running the show.

  23. Carbon Tax is just an increase on existing fuel taxes, but with a different name to con people into paying it without complaining too much or using less fuel.
    It’s another sin tax on addictions like on alcohol and tobacco.

  24. I’m doing my part, too! 2 4.6L Fords and a 1979 GM 350 Sierra (on propane but still).

  25. Bigger is better for car passenger safety claims a new study that has identified the Fiat 500 as the most dangerous car to have a crash in.
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    Ride around cramped like a bug, only to get squished by an F-150.
    On his tombstone it says:
    “He saved 5 cents per gallon.”

  26. I’ve traveled many miles in F-150s, and also drove many thousands of kilometers. My guess is they usually get, on average, 18 MPG. (US gallons.)
    “Gas Guzzler” is a term with no real meaning, “guzzling” as compared to what ?
    2010 F150, 5.2L V8, 40K+ miles: 19.2 empty at 70, up to 22 empty at 60-65 (it was flat terrain), 18 with trailer and towing 5000 lbs total load on the highway (65-70); 19 or so around small town (it does drop a bit in big city driving).
    1975 F150 average MPG about 12. 1962 Falcon, a compact back in the day, about 15. 1975 Pinto, a four banger, 19 MPG. 1968 Fairlane, 13 MPG. 2015 Taurus, 26 MPG. To get around 30 MPG, you need to get down to a current Fiesta.
    To sum, a current leviathan pickup gets better mileage than probably anything else in the Ford fleet from the far past, equal or almost as good as the near past, and not all that much less than anything current except the carp boxes.

  27. Auto manufacturers have always played fast and loose with mileage numbers. Ford’s claims for their F-150’s Eco-boost V-6 were near fraudulent.
    It is not gas prices or mileages that have deterred me, even though I have been tempted to buy new or near new for a few years now. I have no interest(ha) in financing so would be paying full taxes up front. I refuse, at least to this point, to pay multiple thousands to the government for the privilege of updating my auto. There are usually great deals to be had on 2-3 yr old higher end vehicles, but full sales taxes are charged even to 2nd or 3rd owners, criminal in my opinion. And yes, I am willing to forego the feeling of cruising Southern BC in a newer Camaro SS to avoid the feeling of Liberals raping me for an additional $5,000.00 for BC injection sites or to support Quebec families instead of mine.
    A living example of how high and unfair taxation stifles an economy.

  29. Dano, 3 in a row about 20 years my junior, current one 17 years years younger, why would I buy a stang to do a job it don’t need it for:-)))
    Build a 72 Datsun with a SBC cranking 450 HP,( about 500 when we went to the airport and got 104 AV gas). Didn’t pick up chicks with it, just emabarassed their beaus who were driving vettes.

  30. My rant for today..
    This freaking corn oil the climate alarmists are putting into petrol is causing my engine light to come on.
    Its pissing me off because my county, state, requires an inspection and the damn corn oil-bio fuel Shiite clogs up the fuel injectors.
    I just removed the light, but my daughter had to pay $200 to get hers fixed so she could be honest with the gubberment.
    Put the fuc)ing corn oil into Pam Spray and get it out of my gas..

  31. The new F-150 with the Ecoboost 3.7L V6 is tuned hotter and gets out of it’s own way harder than the new 5.0 V8. My unsupported opinion is they de-tuned the V8 to sell more V6s. That’s how it feels when you put your boot down on it.
    I would like to see the V8 with a similar twin-turbo package to the V6. That would be spectacular.
    As to what is to be done? Tax hike, obviously. The peasants have too much money, that’s a dangerous situation that is easy to fix.
    You voted for it Canada, now you’re going to get it, good and hard.

  32. I am out of the new vehicle market, probably for good, barring some sort of miracle. With the oil patch nearly dead, it would be economically stupid for me to tie up capital or incur debt to have a new truck. And I don’t even like them very much. Some of the late-model Fords, you have to lift the cab to change the rear spark plugs. One the GM duramax pickups, you have to do the same to work on the turbo. I have heard and seen some horror stories from people with relatively late-model vehicles (i.e. newer than what I drive, LOL) who have been robbed blind on service by the stealerships.
    Case in point: I have a ’97 Suburban with the Vortec 350. Good vehicle, good engine. Water pump sprung a leak on last road trip. No biggie, I’ll fix it myself, and do it up right. I want it to be reliable. New water pump, some 97 dollars. A little salty, that, for a guy used to forty-dollar water pumps. New idler wheel, new tensioner wheel, because there’s zero fault tolerance with a serpentine belt. New belt, of course. With the belt off, gave the alternator a spin, and clearly heard the tell-tale rumble of a bad bearing. Tried replacing the alternator bearings myself, and gave up. That model Delco alternator is so constructed as to be a complete PITA to tear down. First thing you have to do is unsolder the stator wires from the diode bridge – just to open the case! Apparently GM has now adopted Nippondenso alternators for later models, which are better, but the old-style GM alternators were a piece of cake to repair.

  33. “The infatuation governments have for electric vehicles and hybrids is “highly misplaced,” he said…
    They don’t expect to have to ride in them. They are infatuated with the idea that we should have to ride in them.
    The Canadian monarch and Governor General of Canada are driven in a Lincoln Town Car or a Lincoln MKS.
    The prime minister usually rides in an armoured long-wheelbase Cadillac DTS or Chevrolet Suburban.
    His motorcade is usually led by a Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger, or Mercury Grand Marquis.
    Certain ministers and officials are driven in Chrysler 300 sedans.

  34. Gord, you’re just pining for the days of the Holly carb and points ignition. ~:D Sucks to be old, don’t it?
    You’re right about the Ford 6.4L and 6.0L diesels, you do have to pull the cab off to swap the turbo etc. The 6.7L is so tight, I’ll never work on mine unless it’s the brakes, or a zombie apocalypse. On the bright side, I haven’t had to so far. I love not working on my truck. 🙂

  35. No company is putting corn oil into petrol. Use google, learn about how ethanol is made. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, however spreading misinformation does not benefit anyone. If you want to avoid ethanol in gasoline then buy premium grade. It’s that simple.

  36. My vehicles are ’89 and ’95, they were designed to be maintained and run for hundreds of thousands of miles. There is no way I’d want one of the new computerized wonderwaggons. The only computer in my diesel truck is in the CD player.

  37. LeDa. They have no idea how plastic is made.
    The watermelons and rent seekers can be quite ignorant, but many in high places know exactly what they’re doing, with their faked ground thermometers eschewing satellite to prove another “hottest year on record,” having no idea the scientific certainty is less than 40%. Sure, let’s transform the economy from rich to poor based on 1:2.5 probability.
    This doesn’t even take into account those measurements are so corrupted by “adjustments,” including the past record somehow cooler. Let’s ignore Canada’s large boreal forests; right they already took that into consideration by not including it with our carbon footprint and per capital emissions.
    I think the public knows the jig is up; but pays up just to shut up the neo SJWs, oblivious to the plight of the poor, double whammied with higher utilities cost and more and more carbon taxes. That “little bit” has been delivered in bite sized chunks to most of us, but has become a lot more for the poor.
    That is truly why the gap is widening between “rich” & “poor.” Statism – the main reason families slip into poverty is the tax system taking more and more, as apparatchiks deliver less and less, increasingly encumbered by structural deficits, debt service costs and coming interest rate increases.
    Their solution is to wreak havoc on job creation, to “transform” our economy, with more taxes and higher minimum wages, which statists assuming they can do a better job, despite clear evidence of their fatal conceit, along with observations and common sense, while actually feathering their own nests.
    Give the poor more of what makes them poor – that’s their “investment.” They probably don’t vote anyway; and right, but apparently it was Harper who hated the poor by taking so many of them off the tax rolls, whom Justin will help by raising their taxes and taking away their jobs.

  38. You are right. People with useful skills can Go-Galt. Those who did that decades ago are pretty much ignoring the NewWorldOrder and the KoolAid peddlers. Most of the problems are in cities; not living in a big city avoids most of them.

  40. Ethanol is a domestically grown plant product usually made from sugar cane, or CORN..
    Thanks dear teacher. Maybe you might enlighten me on something else you think you might know…
    I also know the shit is clogging my fuel injection.

  41. Used to be, if you bought a pickup truck you didn’t give a crap what the price of fuel was.
    A pickup was for hauling, towing and moving stuff, not people.
    Do you know why Ford has a V6 ecoboost engine and Dodge has a V6 diesel engine in their pickups now?? Because the 4 door pickup with all the electronic bells and whistles has replaced the mini van for city people.
    They want better gas mileage when taking the kids to soccer and dance, a place to throw a bag of cat food once a month, and it makes them think their dick grows two inches every time they get in.(I remember my first truck).Your dick gets two inches shorter when you drive a mini van.

  42. ..but not from Corn OIL. It’s fermented from corn mash which is fermented after the oil is extracted. Google “ethanol fuel”
    Ethanol additive can be almost completely avoided by using premium gasoline. The percent ethanol in each grade is usually posted on the pump. Glad to help; anything else?

  43. Translation:
    City people driving pick-ups is cultural appropriation.
    They can build’em for the country folk, but they shouldn’t damn well drive’em.

  44. Unfortunately you don’t have to make payments on your vehicles.
    From the article: “A better strategy would be to get consumers to buy a new vehicle and get their old vehicle off the road”.
    Like a new vehicle that depreciates 50% after 3 years.
    Really … how much money can you save by not buying new and running yours … my estimate is only thousands every year.
    It makes sense to the crackpots … not so much with the people than can do math.
    There are a lot of good reasons to get a new vehicle … gas savings is an argument in a domain that is reserved for total morons.

  45. @Jean says “Ethanol additive can be almost completely avoided by using premium gasoline.”
    Only partially correct. You do qualify that you have to read the pump for ethanol content, but it isn’t as simple as buying premium to avoid ethanol ‘almost’ completely. The only sure bet I know of to be ethanol free is Shell premium, but you still get what’s left in the hose from the previous customer that bought 10% ethanol regular. There are others, but their ethanol content varies with location in Canada, Shell doesn’t. (Esso and Macewan as well I’ve read, but can’t confirm).
    @NME666: 104 octane avgas doesn’t exist. There is a popular additive marketed as 104 octane for mogas, you probably bought 100LL (blue) or 100/130 (green), depending on your vintage.

  46. To avoid ethanol, use premium, don’t over-complicate things. There are no uniform standards across Canada and ‘Mercans read this forum, so of course you have to read the ethanol content posted on the pump YOU use. The litre or so of 10% left in the hose wont have a significant effect on a tankful of premium that the pump sticker states no ethanol. It’s easy enough to test fuel for alcohol content, so if you don’t believe the pump sticker then test it yourself.

  47. Corn OIL comes from CORN, ethanol comes from CORN. I see you enjoy playing with words..
    Tell me teacher, is it a Bi-cycle, or is it a Bicycle ? I got off my Motor-cycle and rode the rest of the distance on my Bi-cycle, my motorcycle uses ethanol made from corn that also makes corn oil.
    My Bi-cycle didn’t need any ethanol that is made from fermented corn oil, but sometime my bicycle causes my stomach to get gas.. My motor-cycle gives my stomach have gas when the injectors have to be cleaned, because of the ethanol made from fermented corn, that also makes corn oil.
    — otterdriver
    A manager of the local American gas station where I used to live, told me that when they order Premium non-ethanol, most of the time they also get 87 octane tanks filled with non-ethanol.
    Supplier has to pay the penalty, for Jean, the extra tax..

  48. My motor-cycle gives my stomach have gas when the injectors have to be cleaned.
    Sorry teacher, it should have been:
    My motor-cycle gives my stomach have gas when the injectors have to be cleaned.
    Too early to get a bad grade..

  49. OZ, There is no law against anyone driving any specific type of vehicle. My issue is with the guy who has a F350 dually parked in his suburban driveway, drives 6 miles everyday to work downtown(and pays $400.00 /month for parking). Never uses the cargo space for anything other than groceries, doesn’t even own a trailer hitch, and washes it every second day. And there are Star Wars stick figures of Mom, Dad, 3 kids, 2 cats and a dog pasted to the rear window. Like most city people he drives and parks like he lives….door against door, with his nose always stuck up somebody’s butt.
    Cultural appropriation? Maybe. More than likely it is about ego.

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