No wonder the Tories were suspicious about large swathes of the public service. This is unbelievable. https://t.co/l1P1PUFL2v
— John Ivison (@IvisonJ) November 7, 2015
And here's Canada's professional & strictly non-partisan civil service greeting Justin Timberlake, I mean Trudeau. pic.twitter.com/l9UT1wsNCC
— Scott Gilmore (@Scott_Gilmore) November 6, 2015
Should you get another chance at majority government, dear Conservatives, this time don’t throw it away. Purge.
Purge is right. The Conservatives threw the chance away into the wind.
This fawning adulation by the uncivil service was to be expected. After all, their unions spent millions over the years campaigning against the Conservatives.
Swooning over pretty hair and an empty puppet head.
Ivison occasionally does surprise.
Lest we forget……… the media piled on Harper when he said in the 2006 campaign that the Conservatives wouldn’t be able to get all they wanted implemented because of the judiciary and the civil service. Strange how prescient that was.
Unfortunately, Harper had an unerring sense of fairness and playing by the rules. He failed to see that THERE ARE NO RULES. Yes, he should have purged.
a Stalin style purge of the civil
What I thought was pathetic is his reducing the number of Ministers in his cabinet, then going out and hiring 12,000 new civil servants, in a age when they should be reducing the Civil Service by 50% because of automated systems.
I was contacted by Radio Canada (I’m bilingual) last year at this time, they wanted me to comment on the closure of several Veterans Affairs offices across Canada. I had to look into the matter to comment, and found out that the closures were simply because there were so few WWII vets left, and that most of their claims had been settled decades ago. I worked two hours researching, they never used by comment. What they wanted to hear was that the veterans were being neglected. they phoned me two weeks ago after the election, I hung up on them!
For sure.
Purge & flush.
Twice.
The lede of a report gives the reader the main point of the story.
Here’s the lede of the CBC report:
Okay, that’s the story: It’s “a different world for a political reporter” since Justin Trudeau’s cabinet was sworn in. Now, how, precisely, are things different now for a reporter like Julie Van Dusen, who, by virtue of sucking from the taxpayer tit, is a civil servant?
Gotcha: it’s going to be a long four years.
On the plus side, we’re going to have a few solid larfs along the way courtesy of giddy, panty-wetting fangirls like Robert Fife and Julie Van Dusen.
In a way you can’t really blame civil servants for acting in this manner. They have high-paying, secure jobs with an abundance of benefits and a secure pension to look forward to when they retire. They don’t have to worry about things like automation or downsizing or if their employer will be opening the doors tomorrow. Stephen Harper represented a threat to this utopian way of life since he had his eye on government spending and gradually waste and mismanagement and dog f*cking in general would be eliminated to the benefit of all non-government taxpayers.
Trudeau is obviously a fan of more and bigger government which translates into total job security for the civil service regardless of the state of the economy, individual performance or even if the job is necessary. His election is a godsend for these people and I’m confident that they will increase their productivity in return for his generosity. That was a joke.
Just how long can this Ivison fellow keep it up? Wonder how many selfies he got with the lad? Notice that Justine likes to get up real close, almost nose to nose with his fans – Most men don’t like another man rubbing noses with them, though.
Hey, these assholes know where the $$$$ come from… no not from the taxpayer, they don’t matter… no the big $$$$ and big pensions come from those that are willing to buy off your political support, like Kathleen Wynne and the Ontario Liberals”… they know how to buy off the Public sector unions with other peoples money and kick that cash back to themselves, like gangsters running a racket. The fact these progressive parasites are cheering for a like minded imbecile is yet another example of the inherent immorality in the very concept of “public sector unions” and the utter contempt public sector union employees have for the taxpayer. Its also a prime example of how deeply corrupted the Trudopian oligarchical State has become, just as intended. Its all about self preservation, political ideology and an insatiable greed for other peoples money. Public sector unions should be outlawed as they are a danger to democracy… not that Trudopia is a democracy, more of a cult, like a Marxist Manson Family… good times… Now that the Media and Public sector unionistas have had their turn kissing Justines cock ring I guess the next photo-op tour for PM Butts’s puppet will be an “Eyes Wide Shut” style cocktail party with the Supreme Court Justices. What an ugly country. By the way, whats Ivison complaining about, he helped get the horse faced idiot Trudozo elected… he didn’t expect this cult like behavior? Please.
Whenever a conservative government does get back in majority, its first three actions should be 1) defund and privatize the CBC
2) remove Canadian Content regulations from the CRTC’s mandate
3) end the “bundling” practice for cable TV
Larry (2:17 pm), what you have perceived to be Ivison’s quote is in fact from Julie Van Dusen’s CBC News report.
Why is anyone surprised. The civil service is filled with the most useless lifeforms this planet can produce: fat, ugly, lazy, stupid SJWs who couldn’t survive a single day in the private sector where, you know, they’d have to provide their employer with some use.
So, why didn’t the Cons “purge” the public service when they had the chance? Any (plausible) theories to share, or will it just be the usual impotent griping on SDA today?
The honeymoon can’t possibly last.
The incoming government is obviously out to make “changes”; the rebranding of departments is the evidence of that. This is bound to cause restructuring and instability within the public service.
And if there is anything that our unionized, time-serving public service doesn’t like it is the elected government tinkering with their self-regarding empire.
As the children’s crusade now running the country begins to realize its projects can’t be powered by unicorn flatulence or financed with rainbow gumdrops, it will start to shuffle people here and chop people there.
The public service will react to this with all the selfless sense of sacrifice and dedication of Ontario teachers.
Any time in history where there was such blind adulation for a “leader” by the masses that leader usually led his country into ruin.
Hitler, Mussolini, Peron, Chavez and Obama come to mind.
After the recent Coronation we’re not far behind.
I’m not big on the purge thing. We used to do that here in Sask. and everybody down to the local pest control officer would lose his job when the government changed.
If you fired every manager or dept. head who would you get for replacement. Conservatives by their nature have zero interest in managing civil servants; it’s like herding cats.
Right now everyone in the east is excited about the new PM. That will fade fast when decisions start being made.
“Stephen Harper represented a threat to this utopian way of life…”,
and
“…Kathleen Wynne and the Ontario Liberals”… they know how to buy off the Public sector unions with other peoples money”, and, “… not that Trudopia is a democracy, more of a cult, like a Marxist Manson Family… good times…”
The above comments by biffjr and Sean M clearly articulate the hysterical adulation being expressed by the parasites.
Sean, you are right in asking what is Ivison complaining about, as during the election campaign he never wrote one article in support of PM Harper, but slagged him at every opportunity.
“So, why didn’t the Cons “purge” the public service when they had the chance?” My personal opinion is that either there were too many Progressive Conservatives in the caucus or the Conservatives had an eye to the next election with goodies promises and promises take bodies to do the work.
Mike T, don’t forget Lenin and Stalin. There are still die hard Stalin lovers in Russia just as there are die hard P.E.T. lovers in Canada.
Do not concern yourself with the possibility of another conservative government, never mind a majority. The media, the civil service, the unions, the educational industry, all aligned to prevent it … they have won the war through superior planning, intel, ruthlessness and a willingness to do what it takes. They infiltrated every system that matters and now they own it all from the media to the classroom. Even the Indians came out if big numbers to vote in their trough-ticket.
AND … if it looks bad for the Liberals and NDP in a couple of years, they will pass the new proportional representation plan to eliminate the right from office forever or until the ‘immigrants’ take us over completely and move government into a mosque.
Conservatives are good-hearted, well-meaning, hard-working SUCKERS … AND I QUIT …
It’s not worth it anymore, it doesn’t matter … we have lost the war and now it is a matter of surviving the nightmare in a far left world. Should be fun …. get those grant appy’s filled out and start a program of your own.
We lose one election out of the last 4 and you quit? It’s not time to quit. It’s time to double down.
My wife has the misfortune of working with people like this in a government office in Hull.
With very few exceptions, her colleagues are obese, witless, half-literate (at best) crazy franco-Gatinoises (there are few anglophones and no non-whites at all) who couldn’t hold a job at Walmart, where they would have to speak English and couldn’t call in sick because they were hungover. A heap of stinking human trash overdue for the dump.
The first priority of a Conservative government should have been to send them all packing and tell them to get someone else to pay them for doing nothing. To the extent they do anything useful, most of these offices could get by just fine with a third of their current staffing, if that.
No wonder they love Justin. No other man will pay for their cocktails more than once.
Bingo! You got it absolutely right with “They infiltrated every system that matters and now they own it all from the media to the classroom.”
As for “…AND I QUIT…”? You know, at this moment I agree, but will I be able to stick to that? Good question. My heart says give it up, that the Marxists are too entrenched. My head tells me that it depends on who the next leader is. So far Rona Ambrose has caved on the missing aboriginal women question…so she is out for me. If a progressive like Mulroney takes the helm, I’ll sit out the next election with my vote and my money.
I work in the public service and, as a conservative libertarian, I’m in a huge minority.
Before and even after the election the talk would often go to the upcoming vote. It was there that I finally figured out the difference between liberals and conservatives, and it’s very Orwellian. I voted to improve the country, and almost all of my colleagues voted to improve their own situations, rest of the country be damned. So from my admittedly small sample size it appears that liberals, who purport to be compassionate and all for the little guy, are anything but: self-interested leeches.
I did my part, and still Zoolander got elected PM. I’ll be sure to show him the same respect lefties showed PM Harper.
Like Cappy says, enjoy the decline.
Most of even the Tories weren’t serious about reform. They wanted power, not change. It’s unlikely they would have been allowed to form government if they were.
Harper really was serious about reform, which is why he was hated even by his deputies (who are now slagging him off to any hack with a microphone). That’s why he wound up having to do much of the work he couldn’t trust them to do.
That included defending Western civilization, Canadian values, and Israel.
Nobody who matters in this world gives a hoot about fighting Islam or supporting Israel, or will while Saudi Arabia’s oil supply holds out. That barbaric practices tip line was a great idea. It’s also what convinced our betters that Harper had become more trouble than he was worth and to take their chances with the more easily controlled Boy Wonder.
One day we’ll find out how much of that high turnout for the Grits was fraudulent, and who paid for it.
I never thought I would live long enough to see the second coming of Christ, but here he is in the form of Justin Trudeau. Praise the lord.
I don’t watch CBC, but monitor it for a few minutes to judge the excesses.Yesterday Rosie Barton breathlessly reported on the new era where ministers actually mingled with reporters and answered their questions.This is 2 weeks past election night, and she is still trashing the Harper ministers. But another story elsewhere monitored the answers of the new ministers and none provided any information whatsoever. Acceptable on day 1 perhaps, but Barton’s problem will be how to hold the government to account, after solidly identifying with the Liberal team. She has disqualified herself from holding the hosting job on P&P, whether her bosses realize this, is another matter.
These people think they have done the right thing and elected the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately for them, when the deficits pile up and JT discovers that budget’s don’t ‘just balance themselves,’ there is going to be a reckoning.
It’s different for me this time. I have recently transitioned from a full time position with my employer to a part time (80%). I justified this move to my employer as a measure to deal childcare, and it was, but the really satisfying part of this is that I’ll completely exit the >$89k tax bracket. I would recommend this to anyone as a way to get through this miserable time. I watch these people and I laugh because I think to myself: ‘who do they think is going to be stupid enough to stick around to pay for this?’
That’s it. From now I’m calling him Justin Timberdeau.
Though Justin Bieberdeau also works for me…
“Should you get another chance at majority government”
Don’t worry, that’s what electoral reform is for. Regardless of whether we get IRV (which benefits Liberals) or PR (which benefits smaller parties), in either system the Conservatives will have to get 50% of the vote to win a majority. Barely 40% of Canadians will even consider voting Conservative.
This is dumb, Someone… Harper believed in incremental conservatism. Which is the long game. He didn’t cut the CBC or gut the public service because that would have cut short his term in office to his first minority. As it was, incrementalism got him an additional 8 years in power, which Canada badly needed.
The thing that Harper couldn’t get over was the absolute hatred that the press developed for him. And like children, the press continually threw mud at Harper and little by little the mud stuck. The press effectively brainwashed the unthinking public.
Incrementalism is a good idea, but it will have to be done by another PM that is able to charm the press core. And for a conservative, it’s an almost impossible task. So as a conservative minded person, I concentrate on the things I can control. Earn less, work part time; batten down the hatches so to speak.
Anyone else notice that already the economy is looking rosy? Yep it sure is different for the press now. They can continue to parrot liberal talking points but they don’t have to bother trying to get quotes from conservatives anymore. Oh who’s that calling, Ambrose? Click.
I don’t understand why anyone is surprised.
My gosh they are all schoolgirls. Overpaid schoolgirls.
Mark Kennedy the Ottawa Citizen bureau chief was on CBC Radio one this morning. This is his statement.
“There were 3000 Canadians who showed up- they wanted to touch him.” Further he stated it cannot be underestimated re “Faith and Hope”.
It slowly dawned on me that there are deluded people who seem to want a messiah.
PM Justin Trudeau is just a human being though.
Doesn’t Connor McDavid count?
Geez, a guy gets injured and suddenly his obvious saviour status gets downgraded.
The only way any future conservative leader will be able to “Charm the Presscorp” is if he/she is on board with the progressive agenda.
The media did not hate Harper for his personality – that was an excuse. PET had contempt for the media and they luv luv luved him -because his politics were theirs.
The media hated Harper because for one, that is how you hold a media job in this country – you write progressive angled stories, and anti conservative rhetoric. (or you can be the token conservative for “balance”. That’s largely why Steyn does not write for Canadian media. He had no desire to serve that fake role)
And secondly because the media are not an independent group who are the watchdogs of our democracy. they are an interdependent group of individuals and corporations who are dedicated to progressivism and a society that is controlled from the top down by a self appointed political/power elite.
The same type of people exist in the judiciary, education, and the civil service.
So it has nothing to do with Harper or if he smiled and gladhanded the media more or not.
It had to do with policies and a direction he was taking the country which put more power into the hands of individuals, and removed power from the corporate kleptocracy and public sector.
As Rush often notes, the media pick your best conservative candidate. Its the one they hate the most, and they hate them because they recognize that that person will damage the success of the progressive agenda.
So again, those that will think that somehow Harpers personality was the reason that Conservatives lost the elections, give your head a shake.
If Harper was a liberal, the media would describe him as “steely eyed, with a set jaw, who was unshakable in the face of adversity, who controlled his caucus with discipline, and was respected by them for it, with a broad vision for the nation and an ability to manage the country through a dangerous world”
Instead he had cold eyes, thin lips, and was a control freak, who ran up the deficit, who played on Canadians fears.
Harper was not perfect, but 95% of what the media reported about him were flat out lies or omissions of facts.
When I see this, I’m reminded of “spontaneous” demonstrations in North Korea.
I am a civil servant, while we do pay clerical staff well and have a over abundance of executives, the reality is we don’t pay market rate for specialized skillsets and we can’t attract those people. Particularity here in BC where cost of living is so high. As for morale. I remember a sigh of relief from many when the Liberals got the boot, there was a hope of honest and professional leadership from politicians. The Conservatives whittled that support away with excessive communication control, the day to day cost of getting a letter out would shock you. The poor handling of issues also hurt. the final straw was the handling of the duffy affair, while not as bad as Adscam, it placed the Conservatives on the same ethically level as the Liberals.
As a gun owner I am scapegoated by the Liberals, NDP and Green party. As a Public Servant I get scapegoated by the Conservatives, there is no win for me. It’s time for you to lose the hatred for a class of people, that is how the left thinks and your hate for the what is really a diverse Public Service puts you in the same boat as the parties you claim to despises.
For the most part, yes. However there were a few starry-eyed males in attendance who appeared to be somewhat enamored with Trudeau. I won’t comment further on this lest we enter the realm of weirdness. Most in attendance were probably glad to get away from their desks for a few minutes and catch a break from the tedious task of trying to look busy.
Even though Harper’s so-called conservative incrementalism slowed the rate of progressive-left rot, the catch-up is now underway. Conservatives don’t make good progressives which is what they must play-act at to be elected (or fluke into power from a well divided progressive split vote) in this progressive culture. The mindless cheer-leading bureaucracy above for the Spawn is a return to honesty as he truly represents their sugar-daddy when it comes to shoveling taxpayer loot their way in exchange for their vote and unproductive faux labour. The looters and thugs now have their feet on the pedal and won’t let off until our bonds are de-rated, and debt financing charges squeeze out the looters which is where Ontario is arriving right now.
Next stop: $0.60 dollar and 15% unemployment (including all the public sector hiring). Wheeeeeeeeeee……….
Tanker says: “The civil service is filled with the most useless lifeforms this planet can produce: fat, ugly, lazy, stupid SJWs” Hey! The selfie girl is not that bad…
There are three reasons why the Conservatives lost this election. Stephen Harper is responsible for all three, but only because he was the Prime Minister and the party leader.
1)The Conservatives never learned how to control the message of their government. Blaming the media is facile. Media expertise is two edged. They never learned how to keep in front of the media. The election campaign was a stellar example of how to fail.
2)Tony Clement. No single person in the Conservative cabinet did more damage to the Conservative party than Tony Clement. As Treasury Board chair he systematically and consistently alienated an entire public service. EVERY LAST MAN AND WOMAN. He alone cost the Conservatives more than a million votes in this election. A real, palpable, calculable number of votes. Colleagues of mine who were staunch Conservatives attending party functions, came back to say, constantly, ‘they hate us, they really hate us”. Tell a quarter million people. your employees, for 10 years, that they are worthless, and yes, they will eventually, get rid of you.
EVERY elected parliament needs to understand “the government” is not Parliament. It is the civil service, and always will be. Its the civil service that translates the blather of Parliament and the courts into the reality of real life.
3)The Conservatives were lousy managers of government functions. That’s not saying the Liberals are any better – the CPC inherited garbage and made zero effort to fix any of it. Slashing and burning budgets and staffing without also trimming laws and regulations only means you have a system so crippled that there is no efficiency left to work with. Civil servants are bound by law to provide a whole range of functions and services, but when there no longer are the staff to do even the most basic of internal services departments need to manage programs, then it all collapses. Ministers were told this 10 or more years ago when the Liberals reshaped the civil service to their own needs, but the Conservatives arrogantly wouldn’t listen. Departments had office pools as to when their department would collapse completely. Several major departments are near or beyond the point. The expertise has left – retired. There was no succession plan, no contingency, no training, and now, for many departments not enough people to do the work.
Just an observation.
If this is the expected behaviour of the bureaucracy and knowing how territorial some bureacrats can be, how long before one of them gets burned for not showing the proper level of adulation or their loyalty being questioned?
If I was a blu-lib MP or one that got elected playing the role of one, I would be looking over my shoulder a lot.
That being said, Justin isn’t the one that is maintaining ideological purity of the ranks as he has no clue whats going on.
No that would be whoever is running the PMO.
A suggestion for her majesties loyal opposition. When parliament resumes it would be a good time to table some legislation that reveals some liberal caucus divisions.
This election has revealed that many Canadians don’t care about democracy. They voted for someone with zero qualifications for the job. Why? Because he was nice looking, and he was the son of a previous PM. I think given the choice between democracy and a hereditary monarchy, those same voters would overwhelmingly choose the latter at this point.
PR of any sorts guarantees a perpetual left wing bureaucratic government, which no one votes for. FPTP is the only good way to ensure a government that people actually voted for and gives us the possibility of “kicking the bums out”.
With PR, the bums are firmly and forever glued to the seats.
Regarding quitting the fight. There is a point upon which you are flogging a dead horse. Simply put we are grossly outnumbered and regardless of some of the signs of right wing return in The EU it’s too little too late. There may be some hope in the USA if either Trump or Cruz makes it … they are the only ones that may have a conservative agenda and I am still not too sure about Trump’s ability to remain conservative. People who already have a huge jelly donut tend to get soft and egalitarian even if they know its all bullshit, they just want to be loved by as man as possible.
Everything has a life and it ends. Our political system has had a good run, but it ended some time ago. it is now nothing more than a sham and a cynical display of what once was when better men were in charge.
We’ve been losing for 40 years. And I am not talking about elections.
Barely 40% Voted for Jt as well. In other words 60% did NOT vote for the LIBS.
Bingo, Wally. Don’t forget when Justin’s birthday is. At the time I thought his folks had tried to time things to solidify the Catholic vote.