Carly Time

2016 41 Comments

Stephen Miller nails it.

Fiorina’s response to Trump’s attacks on her physical appearance left him grinning like a goofy idiot, silent as the audience cheered for the first time of the night. This was the beginning of the end of Donald Trump, and seemingly the end of the beginning for Fiorina. Trump’s Frank T.J. Mackey “Respect the Cock” act, thrown like slabs of red meat to his throngs of anonymous seminar suckers struggling to sell a pen back to their host, only works as long as the facade holds and he maintains the semblance of control and projection of power.

41 Replies to “Carly Time”

  1. No lance he doesn’t really nail it. Yes Carly is on the rise. In many ways that is not a surprise – she has talent and as the only female naturally stands out.
    And while trump is waning somewhat the set-to with fiorina was not the start – the crest in his popularity was happening before then and it is his lack of detail/grasp of the issues that is wearing thin. And continues to.
    Fiorina is a deeply flawed candidate – her very well documented failure at HP will dog her like a financial chappaquidick.
    (It occurred to me that I disagree with lance on almost every post he makes, yet we both would identify and be identified as conservatives)

  3. We are supposed to judge Trump based on what discredited Rolling Stone magazine claims happened in private?
    So it is ok for Everyone to make fun of Trump’s hair but he can not allude to a woman not being attractive?

  5. Gordon: you’re right, Lance does not get Trump. Trump is definitely not The Godfather. But even The Godfather sent Luca Brasi when he needed to draw blood.
    And Lance: just because you’re wrong most of the time, don’t get disheartened. You’re young but you’ll eventually come to realise that politics is war by other means. This election is not about electing a pretty and well spoken young lady (notwithstanding that she has a “past”). This election is about slaying the enemies of decency and the American way of life. It will be dirty and messy but just remember the words that Orwell made about Kipling:
    “He sees clearly that men can only be highly civilized while other men, inevitably less civilized, are there to guard and feed them.”
    “Inevitably less civilised”: that describes Trump all right and he is just the right man for the job.

  6. Simply because a man does not find a certain woman attractive, he is not President Material and he is finished?
    Seriously?

  9. Lance, better people than you have declared Mr. Trump as done.
    I don’t know if you realize, but Mr. Trump is in it to win. That’s what he wants for America and most Americans understand that.
    Ms. Fiorina has never said that and I doubt she ever will. Once Americans catch on to that, her support will drop off just as it did for Perry and Walker.

  10. The media always does this. They pick a candidate, make a bogeyman out of him or her – and then crush him with bad press.
    Locally we’ve seen it with pretty much every Albertan conservative politician from Ralph Klein to Danielle Smith here in Alberta. Nationally it’s happening to Harper right now. They point and shriek at the bogeyman and scare the chit out of the stupid kids…and they seem to stampede the rest.
    Mind you, there’s the odd time the media gets ignored too…which it should be, most of the time. If you think their blatherings are meaningful, Lance – smile and cackle with the old hens and the chattering class, I guess. Oh – I saw your chart about how Carly didn’t crater HP. Fair enough – but look at it another way:
    When Trump went bankrupt – he got back up on his feet, got back in the game and now he can buy and sell Carly out of pocket change. When HP dived – Carly and her backers scream “Look at the chart! Everyone else was sucking swamp water too! Vote for the vagina, or you’re a filthy sexist!!!”
    America voted for a socialist black baboon to prove it wasn’t raciist…and look at the results. Now the same guys responsible for that are telling us to ignore a candidate with a proven track record – and vote for Hillary (who very much may be looking at jail time shortly) – or Carly because…because why, exactly Lance?

  11. Fiorina is by far one of the most overrated CEOs and business leaders of all time.
    In any case, after the mess Obama has made I think most voters are done with affirmative action picks for president.
    Trump holds all the aces in the election and he knows it.

  12. She lost her HP job due to loss of confidence of internal board. True, HP stock went hire on her departure but it appears that what she put in place was successful and HP reaped the benefits until the replacement messed things up. HP was a HUGE company dealing with a new phase in the industry. Change management is always difficult. Look at Dell and Michael Dell felt he had to come back and take Dell private again.
    Conservative Americans seem to be tired of rinos that cave. Mccain and Romney did not fight back from being labelled racsist and sexist.
    I am a bit of a Carly fan. Like Trump, she fights. Carson fights too. Not sure how conservative she is. That’s the problem with all three named. Never apologize to the social justice warriors.

  13. Trump will do as well as he wants to. I doubt he’s worried about Carly. In fact they need each other as sparring partners to show they have what it takes. It’s Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers; only the dance has changed.
    I don’t know who will win the nomination (could even be Carson), but the winner will drag the GOP kicking and screaming to victory. Every dustup along the way will take some more of Hillary’s oxygen. Also many Democrats are seeing their front runner is at best on par with the GOP jayvee debate squad.
    I like Carly, but if she succeeds it will be because Trump smashed the media’s glass door labelled Omerta and made it possible to discuss immigration, terrorism, Planned Parenthood, etc.

  14. Fiorina,who could very well be the first shape-shifting reptile to run for the GOP, makes Clinton look like a sex kitten.

  16. As Rush often notes, the right should let the Democrats pick the GOP candidate. The one they hate the most is the one they fear the most.
    The left hates, hates, hates Trump. As do Progressive inside the beltway Republicans.
    Thats good enough for me.

  17. Whenever the media tell me who the winner is, and who the obviously best candidate is…. I run for the hills.
    Fiorina is a pretty mainstream candidate. She will not satisfy the Tea Party voters. And there are still a lot of them. If I was in the US, I’d be a Tea Party member for sure, just as I was a Reform member even before Reform had a single vote in Ontario.

  18. I’m curious how the media fixes the poll results. Here in Canada we have the 3 parties neck and neck but over 85% of the population disagrees with the Left on the Niqab issue, carbon taxing and terrorist citizenship entitlement, to name a few. Maybe as the Toronto elite figure, these are not election issues.
    I think the poll fixers are in for a big surprise here and in the States.

  19. Fiorina’s strategy at HP was inchoate. She wasn’t just “copying IBM”, she was doing it badly. IBM went from being a hardware company to a services and consulting company, it took them a very long time, and they carried it through. Fiorina tried to take HP from being a printer company to a printer and hardware company and then a services company – it didn’t work. There was too much tacking with the wind and not enough long-term strategic planning and commitment to that plan.
    She didn’t crater HP. But she didn’t do a great job, either. CEOing a major tech company is only weakly related to being President anyway. Running on her record as HP’s CEO isn’t a strong selling point. Take it away…and what have you got left?

  20. Fiorina acts professionally and with tact. She shows judgement. Trump does not.
    Many will cheer for Trump for that reason. I’m cheering for Fiorina for that reason. The presidency is not a game show. It’s not a joke. Unlike the current bozo, presidents should work with people — even those on the other side of the aisle — to deliver sound legislation, rather than trying to govern by bending the executive branch to partisan purposes. I doubt Trump knows how to work with anyone who he can’t fire at a moment’s notice.

  22. Best comment thus far on this thread. Rabbit, I would only add that the debates and interviews thus far show that she appears to understand what are complex issues. The Donald does not.
    And to your other thought, also bingo. Ronald Reagan found ways to work with Tip O’Neill. Bill Clinton found ways to work with Newt Gingrich. Obama has demonstrated no ability to work with anyone on the other side of the aisle. That makes him unique among American Presidents since the Revolution. The Americans fought a revolution about 240 years ago against petty tyrants. For the last six years they’ve been saddled with one of their own making.

  24. I think lance gets it but for the wrong reasons. Stephen Miller’s piece is too heavy on narrative and not enough on substance; is he a liberal? Yes Trump has got a bit of a bull in a china shop way about him and as a result he will have his cajones handed to him every once in awhile. The great ones know how to hand them right back: Trump will get even no doubt.

  26. Donald Trump is an egotistical, sexist, narcissistic blowhard whose candidacy has been an absolute godsend to the democratic process.
    He has done an almost incalculable good by proving, in effect, that the bleating of the namby-pamby establishment media, who see themselves as the gatekeepers of democracy, is just a bunch of empty, head-up-the-arse, “royal We” noise, and that American citizens aren’t vassals of the self-appointed ruling class. By unapologetically airing out the sensible views of millions of people on the subject of illegal immigration, by violating this “you can’t say that!” dictum of a putative ruling class whose views have been mortally infected by the hyperventilations of the SJWs, Trump has forever changed the efficacy of their putative “rules.”
    He can’t be thanked enough for that, and I can totally understand why so many people are 100% behind him: Every time he gives the royal finger to the proverbial gatekeepers by pointing out the indisputable (to sane people) *fact* that a nation cannot remain a nation unless it has control over its own borders, I say “thank you!” because he’s speaking to the most important issue of the 21st Century.
    He’s also a preening, transparently self-serving peacock, though, and therein lies the rub: People are so understandably relieved — even overjoyed — to finally hear someone with the guts to finally speak the unvarnished truth about illegal immigration, demographics, etc., that they tend not to notice or acknowledge that his proposed solutions (e.g., he’ll build a wall and ”force Mexico pay for it”) come from the mindset of a guy whose wealth has enabled him throughout his life to bully his competitors and underlings. In the contest of the campaign for the Republican nomination, Trump’s hubris, which includes a compulsive desire for celebrity and affirmation, is a great thing to the precise extent that it psychologically equips him to run over the “enlightened class” who very much need to be run over, but it’s only a great thing for now, and I’m not sure that the people who (quite rightly) understand the importance of the immigration/demographic issue understand also that his campaign position on immigration is practically incidental to, or a subset of, a mindset and a pattern of behaviour that won’t be so good for America in the long run in myriad other ways.
    I’d be okay with a Trump presidency for the sole reason that he’d pretty much have to take strong action on illegal immigration, but I’d also be okay with a president who’s not a preening narcissist in the mold of Obama and Trudeau. Yes, they’re at the opposite end of the spectrum from Trump in political terms, but psychologically there isn’t much difference, IMO.
    Let me put it this way: If Trump wins the presidency, his supporters will be faced with the sad realization that all his big idee-ers about mass deportations, forcing Mexico to build/pay for a wall, etc., etc., are being thwarted at every point by reality and due process and the rules of American democracy, and it’ll make for a very, very long four years of listening to him expound in his disjointed and sometimes grammatically senseless way on topics other than immigration.
    Vanity-project promises made on the hustings are one thing, but once you’re in the Oval Office it ain’t all about “Big Daddy says (X)”.
    That’s just my opinion. Feel free to beat me with a tube sock full of wood screws — the lineup starts at the door and wraps around the block…

  27. Trump’s base is too solid to erode and will carry him to the Gop leadership. Anyone who believes different probably also believes the Roughriders were grey cup material this year. 😉

  28. “I doubt Trump knows how to work with anyone who he can’t fire at a moment’s notice.”
    This bit of snark says more about you than it does about Trump. I don’t know what you do or did for a living but it is obvious that you have no idea what it takes to develop the real estate projects of the magnitude that Trump brings to fruition.
    It is Donald Trump that brings together teams of architects, engineers, designers, city planners, politicians, and labour unions. To organise such diverse groups of people – successful people in their own right – takes a rare talent. Trump is a man of keen intelligence and sound judgement and his ability to convince the world’s top bankers and wealthiest investors that he can get the job done is what separates him from the entire political class in Washington.
    In addition to the aforementioned abilities he has one overarching quality: he gets things done because he has the will to do so. When he says that he will build a wall between Mexico and the U.S. you can be damn sure it is going to get done. And it will get done on time, on budget, will be good looking and effective.
    That’s the Donald Trump I know.

  29. Here’s a great idea! How about Carly marries Donald and they take Donald’s airplane on an extended honeymoon in other countries until the election is over.

  30. The fact under-discussed in the GOP race is the fact that the top 3 candidates are outsiders. Not a politician in the top 50-60% of preferred candidates. Jeb Bush (8%) tries to cut down Trump (25%) with Carly (20%) and Ben (18%) looking on. Do you think Americans are fed up? Even Boehner is crying.

  31. That was a great rant EBD but just so you know that line is getting pretty long. Can you bump me up?
    Speaking of illegal immigration I was in San Diego recently, very close to the Mexican border, both in the morning and late afternoon. Thousands streaming across the border in the morning and thousands (maybe minus a few) streaming back to Mexico in the afternoon. Given the problems with illegal immigrants, why do they allow so many Mexicans in and out of the USA every day? Because the place would collapse without cheap labour.

  32. Simply because a man does not find a certain woman attractive, he is not President Material and he is finished?
    He should not have commented on Fiorina’s appearance at all. It’s not something someone with good judgement would have done.
    And I consider sound judgement a highly desirable trait for the presidency.

  33. Fiorina was caught making remarks over an open mic about her opponents physical appearance in 2010.
    And who hasn’t made fun of the Donald’s hair? So I’m not really buying her outrage. There’s some appropriate line about a pot and kettle here…
    http://tinyurl.com/qcylb8q

  34. I think the media are giving Fiorina a bit of rope. If Donald Trump does implode, the media will turn on her and Ben Carson in a heartbeat. Jeb Bush is still the candidate the back room boys and the media party want to end up with.

  36. It was great for Fiorina that Trump commented on her appearance. It gave her a gotcha moment in the debate with Trump. More importantly, it protects her from any similarly disparaging comments from Democrats down the road. If they say anything against her appearance, they’re guilty of being the ass/clown they now claim Trump to be.

  37. Fiorina is an Iranian butt kisser right after 9/11 she was chomping at the bit to make sure all Muslims knew it was Americas fault she is as progressive as it gets she is a typical establishment politician. She is Jeb bush but with tits.
    Not to mention she tried to make you think she gave birth to her children but she didn’t she is a step mom and buried one of her husbands kids who was in her mid 30’s when she od’d on pain killers and other over the counter drugs.
    As for Trump. Lance keep your hate on for him, he will keep climbing the polls are against him as well as the media the left and the right.
    Funny thing is Ted Cruz is really the only one maybe Rand Paul who would make a good president But notice how no one talks about them?
    All the others are weak, squishy establishment pufters. Ben Carson would probably fall asleep during the debates if they were not forced to stand up. Great Guy but against the second amendment and the 1st so yeah not him either.
    If Trump/Cruz get elected president you will see America Become great again.
    He has already said Trey Gowdy for AG
    Allen west for sec of defence. Thats a great start

  38. Nice rant EBD but america is not a democracy and american democracy does not exsist.
    AMERICA IS A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. It is not a democracy.
    Trump/Cruz 2016 Anything else you may as well have left obumbles in office.

  39. “She is Jeb bush but with tits.”
    Quote of the year!
    Paul, once I could contain my laughing, the rest of your comment was worth the read and bang on as well.

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