40 Replies to “Not A Muslim”

  1. Destructive to who, the “Obama-Nation™” Neville Chamberlain appeasement prize winner..?
    This week should offer some ‘sparkler speeches’; Bibi offers KO to the “Khameniac Project”.
    Crack a beer and a bowl of popcorn, the fireworks show is sure to be spectacular.
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group ‘True North’

  2. Kerry’s “reassurance” has to be the single most disturbing statement ever made by a member of this most disturbing administration:

    “We are going to test whether or not diplomacy can prevent this weapon from being created, so you don’t have to turn to additional measures including the possibility of military confrontation.”

    WTBH?

  3. Obama is a spineless coward.
    How many American pilots would follow an OBloomer order and attempt to shoot down an Israeli jet?
    My guess is none.

  4. I cannot get Tirador’s link to the Israel National News, but there seems to be a story to the effect that the US Administration threatened to shoot down Israeli aircraft on the way to Iran, presumptively to bomb it. A variant says that the Saudis threatened this.

  5. “Obama is a spineless coward.”
    I respectfully disagree. Obama knows what he is doing and is doing exactly what he said he would do and that is fundamentally change the US. He did not add to that that he would further the cause of the MB while he was in the process of fundamentally changing the US.

  6. Boy it must be embarrassing for Americans knowing that the team leader they selected is playing for the other side.

  7. A significant portion of the people who voted for him probably support the side Obama is playing for.
    To paraphrase the philosopher Eric Cartman: “Muslims are only a problem because the Israelis are J-O-Os”.

  8. Some writer asserts that Israeli attack planes would be shot down by the U.S. if they approached Iran……….
    The internet is full of rumor, innuendo, and downright bull shit. You all know it. This assertion fits the latter description, it’s just BS.
    If the U.S. wanted to stop an attack on Iran, the best way to do so is to simply threaten to reveal that it is coming; the when, where, and how. The attack will then fail on its own.
    But why stop it you ask. Well, first because the likely route of the attack planes would take them over Jordan and Iraq. This route, unobstructed by the U.S., implies U.S. complicity in the attack. That’s not acceptable if the U.S. does NOT want to be complicit. Simple.

  9. Now that Obama has thrown this major hissy fit about the address, so many more people will be tuning in. Pretty stupid move on Prez Jug Ears part. Hopefully Bibi hits it out of the park.

  10. Assuming the Obama administration did indeed threaten to shoot down Israeli jets, Israel should have launched the strike anyway, and called Obama’s bluff.
    He hates having to make decisions, even easy ones. Look at how he dragged his feet over no-brainers like the Bin Laden kill, reinforcing the Benghazi embassy, or rescuing ISIS hostages.

  11. Hans – you do an injustice to Neville Chamberlain. True he sold out Czechloslovakia back in the day. However, the reality was that Britain was in no shape to go to war. Chamberlain bought time for Britain to rearm sufficiently to stay off the German onslaught. Tough on the Czechs and Slovaks; the outcome would have been worse had Chamberlain not signed the treaty and the Brits been forced into a war for which they had insufficient armaments. As things turned out, it was a very close call; several books (fiction) have been written about why the Germans paused until the Dunkirk evacuations succeeded.

  12. So you’re suggesting Neville Chamberlain was graduate of the Will Rogers ‘school of diplomacy’…?
    “Diplomacy is the art of saying “Nice doggie” until you can find a rock.”
    Will Rogers 1879-1935
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group ‘True North’

  13. Right on, Sid.
    Ordinarily I wouldn’t watch Bibi’s speech, but given the fervor of the WH’s reaction I’m looking forward to it.

  14. Mr. Chamberlain is a humble man and he has much to be humble about.
    W.S Churchill
    Whatever Chamberlain’s intent, the respite allowed Britain to produce a whack of Hurricanes and Spitfires….while it allowed Goering to acquire about 2/3 of the strength the Luftwaffe possessed at the start of hostilities…..meanwhile Admiral Donitz desired number (300) of U-boats fell well short(40), but not for lack of trying.
    Britain’s “Chain Home” radar system was developed and built in the same period.

  15. Frances,
    Churchill actually told Chamberlain what was going on … Chamberlain did nothing. Being ignorant or wishing something nice … is no excuse.

  16. At one time, not many years ago, Chamberlain was considered the biggest idiot (albeit a good meaning idiot) in the 20 century.
    What changed in the last few years? The history still happened … Chamberlain was still an idiot … why are people going to bat for someone who could have stopped WWII but didn’t?

  17. I’m on your side, Frances. During the Battle of Britain, the Luftwaffe had destroyed the RAF to the extent that the RAF was within 24 hours of obliteration. The time that Chamberlain bought with his “Peace in Our Time” gambit would have otherwise passed that 24 hours months earlier.
    ural said, “why are people going to bat for someone who could have stopped WWII but didn’t?”
    Who exactly is going to bat for the Americans? Yes the Americans. You know, those flakey bastards that get in a snit about being neutral isolationists every now and then and are so dangerous to have as an ally, because they’re flakey and they bail when you need them the most? Just ask the South Koreans or the South Vietnamese or the Kuomintang or the Ukrainians(I could name more) or the other ‘Great Powers’ who signed the Treaty of Versailles for a very exact instance.
    Yes, the Americans like to brag about how after entering WWI (when it was 3/4 over), the Germans just folded because the great Americans had entered the war. But somehow the Americans couldn’t give a tinker’s damn about preventing WWII at the beginning( as was their obligation as a signatory of the Treaty of Versailles) and ending Germany’s adventurism before the whole conflagration got roaring hot, if the Americans really had made the Germans quit at the end of WWI.
    flakey americans
    We’re seeing history repeat itself again and I’d hate for Canada to have it’s sons and daughters sacrificed for nothing by being allies with super-flakes like the American’s of today.
    Give Iran the benefit of the doubt say the American government?
    Israel has no doubt that the Iranian mullahs who sent 35,000 now dead children into the minefields sown by the Iraqi Republican Army to clear the way during the Iran-Iraq war have no more Ruths to give.(ie they are ruthless)
    Why does a state rich in oil and gas like Iran need centrifuges and uranium enrichment or even nuclear power plants when they have pools of sweet crude running in the rocky desert enough to power their whole nation at their present level of development for centuries?
    Give them the benefit of the doubt, my Aunt Fanny!
    flakey Americans
    How about instead of sending military aid we just use FOOD as a weapon and deny it to Iran and Saudi Arabia and ISIS and Russia and China and anyone who chooses to be intermediaries to act as third parties to sell our food to them?
    Starve them out, says I.

  18. Everybody just back off,
    We need to talk about a real American hero- John(ketchup)Kerry.
    Secretary of State John Kerry on Sunday tried to calm tensions with Israel before Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s congressional address, yet insisted the Obama administration’s diplomatic record with Iran entitles the U.S. to “the benefit of the doubt” as negotiators work toward a long-term nuclear deal. On a mission to warn of the dangers of a nuclear-armed Iran, the prime minister arrived in Washington for the speech the White House didn’t want him to give.

    I remember Christmas 1968,
    or should I say it is ‘seared, seared’ in my brain cells,
    that Captain John, as he demanded to be called on that river rat boat, used to tell us that he never gave the enemy “the benefit of the doubt.”
    As I sat there and watched his mouth move up and down,
    and the dope smoke curl around our heads, He told me to always shoot first,
    either with his 35 mm North Korean fake Kodiak home camera, or in the back with his 45 mm pearl handled automatic pistol. Captain John knew how to treat the enemy and give him “the benefit of the doubt.”
    We Americans should be proud that we are in good hands with Captain Kerry, CIC Obama, and soon to be their soul mate, that Iron Lady Hillary Clinton.
    Our Hero,
    or should I say,
    Our Struggle…
    ps.
    Capt. John, never forget what you told us, “When you know shit to be true,
    it doesn’t matter what everybody else believes.”

  19. Not so, rearmament had started some time previously. What stopped the Nazis was the English Channel, otherwise their tanks would just have kept on rolling.

  20. Hey Oz, we can’t be full of flakey Americans. Most of our flakes fled to Canukstan in the 60’s and 70’s. You had no trouble welcoming them in.

  21. They anticipated that……the anti GMO stuff is their pre-emptive strike….

  22. Hey Oz, we can’t be full of flakey Americans. Most of our flakes fled to Canukstan in the 60’s and 70’s. You had no trouble welcoming them in.
    But then Canada grew up and turfed PET. Conservative Harper has been in power for almost a decade. Your draft dodgers have all gone home and now work at the White House.
    When you shoot the Israeli planes out of the sky, the US will have to get used to fighting Canada, Australia, Britain, and all the other free democracies that still exist. End times brought on by a true Manchurian Candidate. The US may recover from Obama, but will never prosper with an electorate so obtuse as to vote him in twice.
    The good news is that all your food will be Halal.

  23. —A variant says that the Saudis threatened this.—-
    Unlikely…..
    Persia was not conquered by muslims…it was conquered by ARABS….that is the real basis for the Sunni—Shiite schism….
    Iran with nukes will compel the House of Saud to acquire nukes…most likely by simply buying them…
    The scuttlebutt a while back, was the Saudis not only green lighted their airspace but offered basing….logical…cheaper than buying nukes without the expense and problems of maintaining them.

  24. The WINNER for the most delusional inane historical revisionism thread is…… THIS ONE.
    It’s cold, the winter is long, the temptation to vent by striking out in contrariness is strong. RESIST!

  25. I read two comments in defence of what was my Prime Minister, though I was 7 years old. I agree.
    It was later released that of the 10,000 WW1 aircraft only 6 all metal planes were operational. Britain would have been wiped out in the air war. I saw aircraft as a small boy at Farnborough. Lots of canvas, dope, plywood in construction.
    Molders of the Luftwaffe had 180 kills. An all metal plane against poor Polish, French, Dutch non-metal aircraft. Against the likes of Finnigan, Beurling, Sailor Malan the allied air aces, he could not have made 180 victories.
    When the war was declared Britain had 1,200 all metal planes ready. Even then victory was said to be in the balance.
    Dunkirk proved the valiant British Army was itself not ready for the Panzers.

  26. Ooz, as is usual for U and a few others in here, the bull runs thick, France could have stopped the whole thing well before it got started, and who’s opinion do I base that on, non other than Hitlers, he said so in his diary.
    As to your flaky assertion, not every one is like you, thank god, I’d hate to have to lower myself down to your level of bullshit spewing denegation of the americans.
    “Why does a state rich in oil and gas like Iran need centrifuges and uranium enrichment or even nuclear power plants”
    and then there’s that clap trap. Just shows you are not a smart business orietend individual. Soooooooooooooooooooo, why waste (use) a salable product when you can conserve, for export, a product and bring in foreign currency through is exports?

  27. I have respect for everyone’s view point. Just because I clearly remember the 1930’s living in England, I certainly am open to debate. I do remember! WW1 900,000 British dead. Thousands crippled one way and another, also gas victims. 160,000 widows. The debacle of the depression and the General Strike of1926. The hunger marchers from Jarrow.

    True the war started full employment. What I am trying to say and please everyone bear with me, it that the country was worn out with the war. The mighty gold reserve in billions had gone. Fort Knox, Kentucky is believed to have most of it.

    Chamberlain did declare war after his ultimatum was rejected. That blasted swine Hitler is the culprit.

    Excuse my rant. I have lots to say about the real Obama have read both his supposed books. Going to do so later.

  28. –When the war was declared Britain had 1,200 all metal planes ready.–
    That what yer (Who probably thought a Tiger Moth was a fighter….)daddy said?
    Metal like the Vickers Wellingtons and the Hawker Hurricanes….
    Wow the ignorance is strong in this one.
    —Dunkirk proved the valiant British Army was itself not ready for the Panzers.—
    An EVENING encounter with the British tanks at Aras…..put the wind up the Panzers skirts….

  29. Yeah France coulda stopped them but although the early German armour was basically inferior…the Germans did know how to use them….
    The French tanks lacked radios and with 2 man turrets were tactical nightmares. The Soviets made the very same mistakes…except the Soviets did concentrate their armour rather than scattering it all over the theatre.
    Every party in WW2 made vast blunders in armoured doctrine…and design……

  30. Staying out of ad hominem, not you, but elsewhere.
    For what it is worth. 1983 saw the discovery of the “Hitler Diary”.
    Trevor-Roper a notable historian flew to Germany. He pronounced them genuine. David Irving (later persecuted because he questioned actual death count of the concentration camps) challenged their authenticity.
    Investigations showed one Konrad Kujau – a noted forger had done the job. Trevor-Roper retracted. Rupert Murdoch was said to have published the diaries.

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